Roethlisberger out for the year

[hoorta]

@tour2ma said:

... and somewhere Ghoulie just got a chubby...

LMAO!!!

That Paxton Lynch feller, got more NFL lives than a cat. a fine Practice squad player if I ever saw one....   

[hoorta]

@tour2ma said:

Unfortunately he uses it as a doorstop...

Seriously... he did look good... but he ain't Ben... physically and mentally. And given the talent drain you've seen over the past two-years... can you afford a tradedown at QB?

Yes.... the D has been bolstered with Bush in the middle and now Minkah behind him, but now you've mortgaged your future in a dubious effort to "save" 2019.

I'm not getting it, Vag...

They're minus their first (Minkah) and third (Bush) next year. Or do they think they can keep pulling Antonio Brown talent out of a rabbit hat in the sixth round? 

A little OT in this thread Tour- but Dolphins fans should start picketing the stadium for that latest move, can't blame Minkah for wanting out though. They can start asking our guys on how to plan that 0-16 parade. Yeah- I'm going on record now- if I'm still alive in the Survivor pool, I'm taking the Browns when they play the 'Fins.  

[Gorka]

After decades of predicting, hoping, praying to God that the stealers will suck, I think this will finally be the year!!

[Vagitron]

@hoorta said:

They're minus their first (Minkah) and third (Bush) next year. Or do they think they can keep pulling Antonio Brown talent out of a rabbit hat in the sixth round? 

A little OT in this thread Tour- but Dolphins fans should start picketing the stadium for that latest move, can't blame Minkah for wanting out though. They can start asking our guys on how to plan that 0-16 parade. Yeah- I'm going on record now- if I'm still alive in the Survivor pool, I'm taking the Browns when they play the 'Fins.  

Getting a comp third for bell. The steelers have their second, third round comp, two 4ths and I believe a 6th and a 7th. 

[Vagitron]

@tour2ma said:

Unfortunately he uses it as a doorstop...

Seriously... he did look good... but he ain't Ben... physically and mentally. And given the talent drain you've seen over the past two-years... can you afford a tradedown at QB?

Yes.... the D has been bolstered with Bush in the middle and now Minkah behind him, but now you've mortgaged your future in a dubious effort to "save" 2019.

I'm not getting it, Vag...

I never said he was Ben. He could be really good tho and that's all that matters. What isn't to get? Sean Davis has a torn labrum. He just got put on IR.  Minka fitzpatrick is a born leader, 22 years old and is still on his rookie contract. He could come out next draft and still be young. On top of that he's already proven, you know what you are getting and he's go time right now. The trade makes nothing but sense, especially when the steelers have such a hard time identifying secondary talent.

[TexasAg1969]

@vagitron said:

especially when the steelers have such a hard time identifying secondary talent.

So you are finally admitting the Stealers got an over the hill Haden huh?  LOL!?

[Tour2ma]

@vagitron said:

1. I never said he was Ben.
2. He could be really good tho and that's all that matters.
3. What isn't to get?

1. I never said you did... I said "that"...
2. Could??? See #3...
3. That you mortgaged your future for "could"...

I got a C-note that says you do not make the playoffs.

Let me know if you're interested.

[The Gipper]

3	Sun. Sept. 22	@	49ers	4:25 p.m.
4	Sun. Sept. 30	vs	Bengals	8:15 p.m.
5	Sun. Oct. 6	vs	Ravens	1:00 p.m.
6	Sun. Oct. 13	at	Chargers	8:20 p.m.
7	BYE
8	Mon. Oct. 28	vs	Dolphins	8:15 p.m.

It is not beyond the realm of possibility that they could be 0-6 when they face the Dolphins.

[TexasAg1969]

@the-gipper said:

3	Sun. Sept. 22	@	49ers	4:25 p.m.
4	Sun. Sept. 30	vs	Bengals	8:15 p.m.
5	Sun. Oct. 6	vs	Ravens	1:00 p.m.
6	Sun. Oct. 13	at	Chargers	8:20 p.m.
7	BYE
8	Mon. Oct. 28	vs	Dolphins	8:15 p.m.

It is not beyond the realm of possibility that they could be 0-6 when they face the Dolphins.

If they are 0-6 along with a winless Dolphin team, that would make for an interesting "tank" game.

[Vagitron]

@tour2ma said:

1. I never said you did... I said "that"...
2. Could??? See #3...
3. That you mortgaged your future for "could"...

I got a C-note that says you do not make the playoffs.

Let me know if you're interested.

No matter what they were never going to draft a qb next year. They believe in Rudolph, this trade made that pretty damn clear. Ben isn’t having tommy john but a different surgery with a shorter recovery and he stated he will honor his contract. Soooo the Steelers traded for a stud corner/safety on a rookie deal at 22 years old. I’d make this trade ten times over and be happy about it each time, especially after hearing what nick saban said about him at Alabama.

and I don’t really gamble, maybe after I see Rudolph play a full game. I do however think it’s hilarious that people seem to think the Steelers are just going to lay down and die.

[The Gipper]

@vagitron said:

No matter what they were never going to draft a qb next year. They believe in Rudolph, this trade made that pretty damn clear. Ben isn’t having tommy john but a different surgery with a shorter recovery and he stated he will honor his contract. Soooo the Steelers traded for a stud corner/safety on a rookie deal at 22 years old. I’d make this trade ten times over and be happy about it each time, especially after hearing what nick saban said about him at Alabama.

and I don’t really gamble, maybe after I see Rudolph play a full game. I do however think it’s hilarious that people seem to think the Steelers are just going to lay down and die.

Lay down and die?  No, they won't lay down and die.....but they may be kicked down and die...by better teams.  There could be as many as 10-12 teams in the AFC that are better overall than the Steelers right now with their situation.   And don't take Saban's praises as any sort of guarantee.   Can you say Dee Millner,  Trent Richardson, Chance Warmack....not that I think he will be a bust like those guys.  In fact, I think he is a stud......but don't take my guarantee for that either.

[The Gipper]

Zombo said:

They should beat the Bungles, even with Maya Rudolph at quarterback.

Z

Should?  Yes.  But as I said, it is within the realm of possibility that the Bengals beat them. 

In fact, Rudolph seems like he could be a bit similar to Andy Dalton.  Both from Big 12 schools.  Both big ole white guys.  Not dissimilar in style of play.

And note this:  now, the AFCN has 3 QBs from the Big 12 starting for them. 

[Tour2ma]

@vagitron said:

and I don’t really gamble, maybe after I see Rudolph play a full game. I do however think it’s hilarious that people seem to think the Steelers are just going to lay down and die.

Again... not "die", just be mediocre...

[Tour2ma]

Zombo said:

They should beat the Bungles, even with Maya Rudolph at quarterback.

If Cinci gets back AJ and Mixon stays healthy, they'll get more competitive in a hurry, but Steelers should win that one.

[Tour2ma]

From ESPN's Injury Report summary...

Ben Roethlisberger, QB	Injury Reserve	Sep 17
Comment: Though the exact nature of the right elbow procedure Roethlisberger will undergo later this week isn't known, he won't be in line for Tommy John surgery, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports.

[Icecube]

@vagitron said:

I never said he was Ben. He could be really good tho and that's all that matters. What isn't to get? Sean Davis has a torn labrum. He just got put on IR.  Minka fitzpatrick is a born leader, 22 years old and is still on his rookie contract. He could come out next draft and still be young. On top of that he's already proven, you know what you are getting and he's go time right now. The trade makes nothing but sense, especially when the steelers have such a hard time identifying secondary talent.

Replacing Davis was a blessing for Pitt, he was horrid but Steelers' brass wouldn't admit it. But Minka better be pro bowl level or it's a bad move. I doubt Rudolph will be what Ben was. Can he pull out wins like Ben did all the time? Also, Edmunds not looking like a good 1st-round pick. He's always out of position. No instincts. Yea, he's big and fast, so what?

[Icecube]

@tour2ma said:

Again... not "die", just be mediocre...

They will do just enough to keep Tomlin, everyone in the AFC celebrates. It would be scary if they had a HC like even Harbaugh. Hell, if Hoodie coached that team they'd win rings. If they win 8 games, Tomlin will be lauded. 

[The Gipper]

By the way, per the depth chart, the Steelers backup QB is now a guy named  Devlin Hodges?

Anyone ever heard of this guy?

Are they in the market for a more experienced (better) backup?  Who would be out there?

[nickers]

@the-gipper said:

By the way, per the depth chart, the Steelers backup QB is now a guy named  Devlin Hodges?

Anyone ever heard of this guy?

Are they in the market for a more experienced (better) backup?  Who would be out there?

Maybe they can trade for Colt McFrye!

[The Gipper]

@nickers said:

Maybe they can trade for Colt McFrye!

Here are some who are available:

Sam Bradford

Colin Kaepernick

Also:

1. Cardale Jones, QB, Chargers. Age: 26. 
2. Brock Osweiler, QB, Dolphins. Age: 28. 
3. Kevin Hogan, QB, Broncos. Age: 26. 
4. Paxton Lynch, QB, Seahawks. Age: 25. 
5. Tom Savage, QB, Lions. Age: 29. 
6. Tyree Jackson, QB, Bills. Age: 21. 
7. Tyler Bray, QB, Bears. Age: 27. 
8. David Fales, QB, Lions. Age: 28. 
9. Landry Jones, QB, Raiders. Age: 30. 
10. Cody Kessler, QB, Eagles. Age: 26.