Skip to content
The Browns Board
Theme
  • System
  • Light
  • Dark
  • Login
  • Register
  • Forums
  • Recent
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Donate
  1. Home
  2. The Browns Board
  3. Browns Grades and Rank... Updated Every Even Numbered Week

Browns Grades and Rank... Updated Every Even Numbered Week

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Browns Board
20 Posts 10 Posters 493 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • TexasAg1969 T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
    • 23k Posts
    • 6k Reputation
    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #3

    Garrett gets extra credit for putting the QB out of the game. Will Williams pay him a bounty??

    1 Reply Last reply
    Quote Reply
    • SdBacker80 S Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
      • 5k Posts
      • 2k Reputation
      S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
      #4

      TE and RT are the weak links.   I figured.  Probably addressed in the first and second round next year but It’s not all doom and gloom on the Oline though. Some really good and some respectable numbers as well.  

      Chubb has really done nothing wrong to this point other than being a victim to poor play calls which I tend to believe they jack all these scores up once we figure that out   

      1 Reply Last reply
      Quote Reply
      • jrb12711 jrb12711J Conversation Starter Reacting Well Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
        • 5k Posts
        • 1k Reputation
        jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
        #5

        Ward has quietly been struggling a bit this year, and it's been showing on tape. Greedy on the other hand is quietly doing very well.

        S tiamat63T 2 Replies Last reply
        👍
        Quote Reply
        • TexasAg1969 T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
          • 23k Posts
          • 6k Reputation
          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
          #6

          I find it somewhat ironic that Garrett is on pace currently for a 40 sack year, but did not score well here. Do they account for the double and sometimes triple teams that began after the 3rd sack?

          Tour2maT marcusM 2 Replies Last reply
          Quote Reply
          • jrb12711J jrb12711

            Ward has quietly been struggling a bit this year, and it's been showing on tape. Greedy on the other hand is quietly doing very well.

            SdBacker80 S Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
            • 5k Posts
            • 2k Reputation
            S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @jrb12711 said:

            Ward has quietly been struggling a bit this year, and it's been showing on tape. Greedy on the other hand is quietly doing very well.

            I gotta stick up for Ward a little the under thrown ball that the Jets WR toed the sideline- If it’s placed where it should be Ward is there to make the play.  And the Crossers both weeks where are the safeties?  I think Ward is doing a good job of maintaining his side of the field.  He absolutely played better earlier last year but he set a pretty high bar last year too 

            1 Reply Last reply
            Quote Reply
            • Ibleedbrown IbleedbrownI Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
              • 5k Posts
              • 2k Reputation
              IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
              #8

              https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/fresh-off-an-improvement-up-front-offensive-line-prepares-for-tall-task-ahead-vs

              A somewhat related article that focuses on the OL and their play game 1 vs. game 2. Game 1 was quite the shit show with sucking and kicking and ejections and injuries, but game 2 was much improved. 

              I spent my rewatching time on the interior of the OL, and l was quite pleased with those dudes. It was fun seeing Kush bust up for some second level blocks and Tretter pulling, which l’m not sure l’ve seen him do before and was super fun to see. I feel like l recall plays last year where Tretter is wingspanning between the guards engaged in blocks but no one to block himself because the defense is crashing the corners, so why not move him around?

              It’s interesting that Robinson scored 8 points better than Hubbard on the ranking points thing yet Robinson is ranked 25 players worse than Hubbard. Have there really been 78 players take a snap at Left Tackle this year?

              1 Reply Last reply
              Quote Reply
              • jrb12711J jrb12711

                Ward has quietly been struggling a bit this year, and it's been showing on tape. Greedy on the other hand is quietly doing very well.

                tiamat63 tiamat63T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Week One Done One Month Later One Year In Very Popular
                • 13k Posts
                • 5k Reputation
                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
                #9

                @jrb12711 said:

                Ward has quietly been struggling a bit this year, and it's been showing on tape. Greedy on the other hand is quietly doing very well.

                Take a kid who has been playing press all of his young adult and pro career then toss him in Wilks system.

                Not an easy transition.

                1 Reply Last reply
                Quote Reply
                • mjp28M mjp28

                  And of course the 1-1.

                  Browns149 Browns149B Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                  • 10k Posts
                  • 2k Reputation
                  Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  @mjp28 said:

                  And of course the 1-1.

                  The only stat that matters 

                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
                  mjp28M 1 Reply Last reply
                  Quote Reply
                  • T TexasAg1969

                    I find it somewhat ironic that Garrett is on pace currently for a 40 sack year, but did not score well here. Do they account for the double and sometimes triple teams that began after the 3rd sack?

                    Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                    • 30k Posts
                    • 6k Reputation
                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
                    #11

                    @texasag1969 said:

                    I find it somewhat ironic that Garrett is on pace currently for a 40 sack year, but did not score well here. Do they account for the double and sometimes triple teams that began after the 3rd sack?

                    I don't think so... it's production that matters. They do state that a rusher receives a higher grade when he produces a hurry/hit/sack against better opposition play, e.g. beating a double team gets extra credit... getting a sack that was flushed into your waiting arms as you danced with your opponent gets less.

                    However, it's not Myles' rush that hurts his grade. It's 77.5... the highest on the team. His run D grade is 58.2. It's hardest to do both "great"... so that's a trade-off he may be being asked to make.

                    Edge players also receive a "Coverage" grade. I can't find an explanation for it. My guess is it's based upon reaction to passes within their "range", e.g., screens, swing-passes, quick slants. Also likely includes passes a player bats down/tips. Myles grade here is 60.8.

                    Here's a link to their grading methodology by position... https://www.pff.com/pff-player-grades

                    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
                    1 Reply Last reply
                    Quote Reply
                    • T TexasAg1969

                      I find it somewhat ironic that Garrett is on pace currently for a 40 sack year, but did not score well here. Do they account for the double and sometimes triple teams that began after the 3rd sack?

                      marcus marcusM
                      • 595 Posts
                      • 104 Reputation
                      marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      @texasag1969 said:

                      I find it somewhat ironic that Garrett is on pace currently for a 40 sack year, but did not score well here. Do they account for the double and sometimes triple teams that began after the 3rd sack?

                      I would think penalties affect the grades too. If not, that grade is surprising.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      Quote Reply
                      • Browns149B Browns149

                        @mjp28 said:

                        And of course the 1-1.

                        The only stat that matters 

                        mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
                        • 18k Posts
                        • 4k Reputation
                        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        @browns149 said:

                        The only stat that matters 

                        The others are great for us fantasy league junkies.   😁😮

                        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
                        1 Reply Last reply
                        Quote Reply
                        • Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                          • 30k Posts
                          • 6k Reputation
                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          Through Week 4...

                          image.png.fb69ee30e028e0a132a99e77e33bac5e.png

                          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
                          1 Reply Last reply
                          ❤
                          Quote Reply
                          • gumby73 gumby73G Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                            • 11k Posts
                            • 4k Reputation
                            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
                            #15

                            Thanks..Whiteheads score seems low & who outscored Joel B. to rank him #2?

                            Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
                            Tour2maT 1 Reply Last reply
                            Quote Reply
                            • gumby73G gumby73

                              Thanks..Whiteheads score seems low & who outscored Joel B. to rank him #2?

                              Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                              • 30k Posts
                              • 6k Reputation
                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
                              #16

                              @gumby73 said:

                              Thanks..Whiteheads score seems low & who outscored Joel B. to rank him #2?

                              Here's the Top Ten... pretty elite company.

                              image.png.45e92629d1fa52404feb14488cf34d67.png

                              Makes me proud to see two of my lil' ol' sleepers doing so well.... Glasgow and, of course, Ali... **sighs**

                              Also good to see a rehab'd Incognito succeeding... Mayock nailed that one.

                              "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
                              mjp28M 1 Reply Last reply
                              Quote Reply
                              • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                                @gumby73 said:

                                Thanks..Whiteheads score seems low & who outscored Joel B. to rank him #2?

                                Here's the Top Ten... pretty elite company.

                                image.png.45e92629d1fa52404feb14488cf34d67.png

                                Makes me proud to see two of my lil' ol' sleepers doing so well.... Glasgow and, of course, Ali... **sighs**

                                Also good to see a rehab'd Incognito succeeding... Mayock nailed that one.

                                mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
                                • 18k Posts
                                • 4k Reputation
                                mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                @tour2ma said:

                                Here's the Top Ten... pretty elite company.

                                Makes me proud to see two of my lil' ol' sleepers doing so well.... Glasgow and, of course, Ali... **sighs**

                                Also good to see a rehab'd Incognito succeeding... Mayock nailed that one.

                                And all 10 are on different teams scattered between good and not so good teams. A lot of talent all over the NFL a by-product of the draft system?

                                Probably goes for other positions as well.

                                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
                                Tour2maT 1 Reply Last reply
                                Quote Reply
                                • mjp28M mjp28

                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  Here's the Top Ten... pretty elite company.

                                  Makes me proud to see two of my lil' ol' sleepers doing so well.... Glasgow and, of course, Ali... **sighs**

                                  Also good to see a rehab'd Incognito succeeding... Mayock nailed that one.

                                  And all 10 are on different teams scattered between good and not so good teams. A lot of talent all over the NFL a by-product of the draft system?

                                  Probably goes for other positions as well.

                                  Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                                  • 30k Posts
                                  • 6k Reputation
                                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @mjp28 said:

                                  A lot of talent all over the NFL a by-product of the draft system?

                                  Has to be... I think Richie is the only one on the list ever to hit FA...

                                  Plus when you find a good one and are able to lock them up long-term, they tend to play a very long time at a very high level.

                                  Correction: Brooks did as well.... originally drafted by HOU.

                                  "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  Quote Reply
                                  • mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
                                    • 18k Posts
                                    • 4k Reputation
                                    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
                                    #19

                                    The days of the Redskin Hogs and the Dallas incredible OL that allowed Emmitt Smith to break rushing records and others may be hard to repeat again.

                                    Same probably goes for the Fearsome foursome, purple people eaters and steel curtain defenses may be hard to do again with maybe a few exceptions.

                                    Well the NFL wanted parity.

                                    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
                                    Tour2maT 1 Reply Last reply
                                    Quote Reply
                                    • mjp28M mjp28

                                      The days of the Redskin Hogs and the Dallas incredible OL that allowed Emmitt Smith to break rushing records and others may be hard to repeat again.

                                      Same probably goes for the Fearsome foursome, purple people eaters and steel curtain defenses may be hard to do again with maybe a few exceptions.

                                      Well the NFL wanted parity.

                                      Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                                      • 30k Posts
                                      • 6k Reputation
                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
                                      #20

                                      @mjp28 said:

                                      ... and the Dallas incredible OL that allowed Emmitt Smith to break rushing records

                                      Dallas has kinda one it again... with an elite RB... and a strong, if not elite, WR...

                                      ... now they just need to lock up the QB...

                                      "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      Quote Reply

                                      Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                                      Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                                      With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                                      Register Login
                                      Reply
                                      • Reply as topic
                                      Log in to reply
                                      • Oldest to Newest
                                      • Newest to Oldest
                                      • Most Votes


                                      Theme
                                      • System
                                      • Light
                                      • Dark
                                      The Browns Board Terms Privacy

                                      The Browns Board is an independent fan community. It is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or sponsored by the Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Cavaliers, Cleveland Guardians, the NFL, NBA, MLB, or any of their affiliates. Team names, logos, and other marks are the property of their respective owners.

                                      • First post
                                        Last post
                                      0
                                      • Forums
                                      • Recent
                                      • Popular
                                      • Users
                                      • Donate