I'm Convinced Freddie Is An IDIOT!!

[beare]

I got admit i liked the hire

but im 2nd guessing it

team fights hard  then you call a draw on 4th and 9

chubb had very good game then when you got chance tie games 4 straight passes

[hx214]

Really is confusing... 

On one hand, he realizes that his starting LT is out and his entire secondary is 3rd string washouts, so he comes up with a draw read option that works extremely well to move the ball and chew clock (Baker was like 13/14 out of it at one point) so they control the time of possession. 

Yet.....

he calls a draw on 4th and 9. 

With 3 time outs and 1st and goal in have to score mode never gives the ball to his Running Back who has been moving the ball really well. 

Continues to call long route passing plays with his QB standing in his own Endzone against the best DT in the league

I don’t want to panic yet, but some of it is concerning 

[SD_Tom]

Sure looks like it's gonna be 1-3 after next week

[The Gipper]

It is concerning.   This game plan tonight looked like shite.   And I never saw any adjustments made to the fact that the pressure came up the middle all night long, forcing Baker to scramble.

Can we say this is just a rookie coach finding his way?  I hope that is what it is, for in not....we will be doing the Hue Jackson thing and demanding a different play caller.

[hx214]

@sd_tom said:

Sure looks like it's gonna be 1-3 after next week

I don’t know. I watched Lamar play today. He’s not a QB. All they have to do is keep him contained and make him throw it and they can beat the ratbirds. 

They did a good job keeping Gurley contained today. I just hope most of the defense that was out tonight is back next week...

[Furious Styles]

Freddie ? Something different these days as players call head coaches by their first names. I wonder if 1st/2nd year players address New Englands coach as "Bill" ?

[SD_Tom]

@hx214 said:

I don’t know. I watched Lamar play today. He’s not a QB. All they have to do is keep him contained and make him throw it and they can beat the ratbirds. 

They did a good job keeping Gurley contained today. I just hope most of the defense that was out tonight is back next week...

His passing stats are far better than Baker's right now.  

[nickers]

@sd_tom said:

His passing stats are far better than Baker's right now.  

Jackass has an Oline... Baker had one until we traded Zeitler for Jugghead...

[hx214]

@sd_tom said:

His passing stats are far better than Baker's right now.  

Ya... he played the fins and the cards too.... 

No TD’s today in a shoot out game. They don’t have Ingram running for them and it would have been ugly.

[Tour2ma]

The players still have his back and as long as they do then I'm fine...

... although his tone in his post-game presser left me cold.

There's a learning curve.

[Tour2ma]

@sd_tom said:

Sure looks like it's gonna be 1-3 after next week

Yup... as the game is in BLT.

I think we'll be readier, if not fully ready, for them when they visit us later.

[runyon27]

@sd_tom said:

His passing stats are far better than Baker's right now.  

Well he played Miami and Arizona the first couple weeks, everyone had good stats against them.

[The Gipper]

@runyon27 said:

Well he played Miami and Arizona the first couple weeks, everyone had good stats against them.

And the Browns get to play both of them later....hopefully after both Freddie and Baker have had time to adjust what is going on with this offense.

[runyon27]

I didn't expect a win tonight, I am actually surprised it was this close to be honest given all the injuries. Outside of 2 real play calls, the 4th down draw and not attempting at least run inside the 5 I think the play calling was fine and I think they looked better, lot more chubb, lot more balance. Baker didn't have a lot of time, we win next week, we are in first place.

[Icecube]

@hx214 said:

I don’t know. I watched Lamar play today. He’s not a QB. All they have to do is keep him contained and make him throw it and they can beat the ratbirds. 

They did a good job keeping Gurley contained today. I just hope most of the defense that was out tonight is back next week...

Let's not forget how many defenders were out. They put up a good fight. 

[Alkid3]

Could've easily put all these in one post. 

[lodilobo]

@nickers said:

We go for it on 4th down and run a fucking draw?.. Get this Retard mother fucker out of here and hire a real fucking coach.. and get an oline to go with Bito and Tretter.. The rest of the Oline BLOWS

I hate to say it, but I don't think Kitchens is going anywhere. We have to hope he learns how to game plan and call plays. It is really frustrating to watch. Mayfield is getting killed with the garbage o line. A good coach would find ways to compensate for the pass rush, to some extent. I was looking forward to the game against Baltimore next week, but now I dread it. They have an excellent defense, but overrated. The game is winnable. They are not the dominating force they think they are.

[Unsympathetic]

Half of Mayfield's passes were fading backwards rolling right jumpballs off his back foot.. you know, inside the pocket.

[Orion]

Did NOT like Freddie going for it on 4th down.  And I thought we should have run the ball when we were down inside the 5 yard line..

The season is going according to my prediction so far.  I have us at 9-7.

[jrb12711]

While it was one decision, that draw on 4th and 9 as I noted in the game thread was a game losing move. Really bad, really obvious poor decision by Freddie there. He did man up to it, but it can't happen again.

More importantly, someone needs to get to this dude that while we got shiny toys, running every play as a deep shot, vertical offense isn't where this unit is right now. Baker I think was 8-9 through the 3rd quarter on throws 2.5 seconds or less. I get that the chiefs throw every pass 50 yards, but we aint that (or close to that) right now. If we keep up that attempt of scheme, we'll continue to see outings like last night.