***Official Browns Vs. Rams Sunday Night Football Game Thread***
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He’s holding the ball way too long.
Most QBs can hold on to the ball for 1.3 seconds before they’re sacked. Our OL is atrocious
Most QBs can hold on to the ball for 1.3 seconds before they’re sacked. Our OL is atrocious
Do you have any idea of how long...how very long...that excuse has been tossed around in Cleveland?
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Here's the story of the game in a nutshell.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
I will be honest with you.....except for that one play where he caused the fumble, Garrett appear to be mostly a no show when it came to pressuring the QB tonight. At least, that was my impression. He seemed constantly out of breath because before nearly every play he was standing with his hands on his hips panting. I am sure he was being double and triple teamed I guess which could diminish a guy's impact.....but then others had to step up, and except for 1 or 2 times it seemed that they never really did.
Nevertheless the defense did not do badly tonight. No, this was purely about scheme and play calling to me.....and the inability to carry those out...and the complete failure to adjust when you knew that was not happening.
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Most QBs can hold on to the ball for 1.3 seconds before they’re sacked. Our OL is atrocious
Do you have any idea of how long...how very long...that excuse has been tossed around in Cleveland?
Do you have any idea of how long...how very long...that excuse has been tossed around in Cleveland?
Every year it’s mentioned - the line has always been the annual whipping boy. They’ve had more than their fair share of coverage sacks. Right now Freddie and Baker need to get better....a lot better.
They need to get healthy too or at least halfway healthy. McCray can’t man the RT spot long term. The TEs are bad. Higgins needs to get healthy.
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I will be honest with you.....except for that one play where he caused the fumble, Garrett appear to be mostly a no show when it came to pressuring the QB tonight. At least, that was my impression. He seemed constantly out of breath because before nearly every play he was standing with his hands on his hips panting. I am sure he was being double and triple teamed I guess which could diminish a guy's impact.....but then others had to step up, and except for 1 or 2 times it seemed that they never really did.
Nevertheless the defense did not do badly tonight. No, this was purely about scheme and play calling to me.....and the inability to carry those out...and the complete failure to adjust when you knew that was not happening.
I will be honest with you.....except for that one play where he caused the fumble, Garrett appear to be mostly a no show when it came to pressuring the QB tonight. At least, that was my impression. He seemed constantly out of breath because before nearly every play he was standing with his hands on his hips panting. I am sure he was being double and triple teamed I guess which could diminish a guy's impact.....but then others had to step up, and except for 1 or 2 times it seemed that they never really did.
Nevertheless the defense did not do badly tonight. No, this was purely about scheme and play calling to me.....and the inability to carry those out...and the complete failure to adjust when you knew that was not happening.
I totally concur!
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Here's the story of the game in a nutshell.
Here's the story of the game in a nutshell.
Yea, like I complain in another thread.....no outlet receiver standing there in the crease, be it a Duke Johnson like back or a FB. And no quick hitting crossing patterns.
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Most QBs can hold on to the ball for 1.3 seconds before they’re sacked. Our OL is atrocious
Do you have any idea of how long...how very long...that excuse has been tossed around in Cleveland?
Do you have any idea of how long...how very long...that excuse has been tossed around in Cleveland?
That our Oline sucks? Not very?
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This should’ve been a W. With a backup secondary. And a terrible play that disrupted the best chance at winning..
Baker was trying to give the ball to Chubb. Chubb decided to duck underneath the hand off.
edit: on the bright side Ravens lost
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Here's the story of the game in a nutshell.
Yea, like I complain in another thread.....no outlet receiver standing there in the crease, be it a Duke Johnson like back or a FB. And no quick hitting crossing patterns.
Yea, like I complain in another thread.....no outlet receiver standing there in the crease, be it a Duke Johnson like back or a FB. And no quick hitting crossing patterns.
And also no baker Mayfield having the vision to see a massive hole right in front of him with the end zone twelve yards away.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Yea, like I complain in another thread.....no outlet receiver standing there in the crease, be it a Duke Johnson like back or a FB. And no quick hitting crossing patterns.
And also no baker Mayfield having the vision to see a massive hole right in front of him with the end zone twelve yards away.
And also no baker Mayfield having the vision to see a massive hole right in front of him with the end zone twelve yards away.
What did you want him to do....run into that hole? I mean, I guess he could have, but that is not his job.
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Yea, like I complain in another thread.....no outlet receiver standing there in the crease, be it a Duke Johnson like back or a FB. And no quick hitting crossing patterns.
And also no baker Mayfield having the vision to see a massive hole right in front of him with the end zone twelve yards away.
And also no baker Mayfield having the vision to see a massive hole right in front of him with the end zone twelve yards away.
Our QB is rattled by the Oline getting its pants knocked off almost every play. You screenshot ONE damn play with a clean pocket
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And also no baker Mayfield having the vision to see a massive hole right in front of him with the end zone twelve yards away.
What did you want him to do....run into that hole? I mean, I guess he could have, but that is not his job.
What did you want him to do....run into that hole? I mean, I guess he could have, but that is not his job.
His job is to score points by any means necessary.
Our QB is rattled by the Oline getting its pants knocked off almost every play. You screenshot ONE damn play with a clean pocket
Please. For 20 years I've been hearing about how shitty our o line is. But none of those quarterbacks who played behind all those shitty o lines went on to have success with better ones.
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Does that give Baker a pass for instinctively thinking “OH SHIT RUN” on 75% of the pressures he dealt with?
You get that way when you’re afforded 1.3 seconds per dropback
You get that way when you’re afforded 1.3 seconds per dropback
He did not step up or navigate in the pocket very well.. I’m guessing just not enough experience against pressure
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Most QBs can hold on to the ball for 1.3 seconds before they’re sacked. Our OL is atrocious
Do you have any idea of how long...how very long...that excuse has been tossed around in Cleveland?
Do you have any idea of how long...how very long...that excuse has been tossed around in Cleveland?
Maybe rightfully so
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Way to tackle your own guy schoebert.
Way to tackle your own guy schoebert.
You saw that too lol I was like "WHAT ARE YOU DOING"
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Exactly what I say to racquetball partners in a doubles match where I have returned about 10 or 12 straight shots in a long rally and he finally gets one "set up" which he promptly puts into the floor instead of the front wall.?
I had a racquet ball partner(and competitor) who always smashed his racquet when he screwed up(which was often)......we were always waiting for him to go up to the front desk and buy another one.....tick tick tick.....
Ive told him to just buy in bulk and bring em all with you......at least we wouldnt be losing time waiting for the next purchase......
I had a racquet ball partner(and competitor) who always smashed his racquet when he screwed up(which was often)......we were always waiting for him to go up to the front desk and buy another one.....tick tick tick.....
Ive told him to just buy in bulk and bring em all with you......at least we wouldnt be losing time waiting for the next purchase......
LOL! I've done that one time in 40+ years and actually I just missed the swipe at the wall and accidentally caught it full force just like I had missed the ball. I'm too cheap to repeat mishits like that.?
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One overriding criticism: Freddie... you have to challenge that PI non-call. It was a slam-dunk...
- The play occurred with 10:11 to go in the 4th. It is rare that you would have need of 2 challenges in the next 8:11.
- Yes, you only get the down back, but you'd have 3 downs to make 9 yards... instead of only 2.
- Instead we turned the ball over on downs and you went home with two challenges in your pocket.
Initial game thoughts...
D first...
- The D did us proud... three turnovers... two by a makeshift 2ndary.
- Game ball to Joe for having a hand in two of them.... literally in the case of that last pick.
- Game ball to Wilks for his game plan.
- Sheldon... loved your false-start inducing shift near our Goalline.... but that was the only time I heard your name.
O next...
- We needed Baker under Center more.
- We needed to mix in some designed roll outs.
- We needed to go no-huddle earlier... set the pace.
- Game ball to Chubb... for being great. His patient decisiveness and use of blockers reminds me of a young L. Bell...
Maybe more tomorrow...
One overriding criticism: Freddie... you have to challenge that PI non-call. It was a slam-dunk...
- The play occurred with 10:11 to go in the 4th. It is rare that you would have need of 2 challenges in the next 8:11.
- Yes, you only get the down back, but you'd have 3 downs to make 9 yards... instead of only 2.
- Instead we turned the ball over on downs and you went home with two challenges in your pocket.
Initial game thoughts...
D first...
- The D did us proud... three turnovers... two by a makeshift 2ndary.
- Game ball to Joe for having a hand in two of them.... literally in the case of that last pick.
- Game ball to Wilks for his game plan.
- Sheldon... loved your false-start inducing shift near our Goalline.... but that was the only time I heard your name.
O next...
- We needed Baker under Center more.
- We needed to mix in some designed roll outs.
- We needed to go no-huddle earlier... set the pace.
- Game ball to Chubb... for being great. His patient decisiveness and use of blockers reminds me of a young L. Bell...
Maybe more tomorrow...
1. Considering we had no starters in the secondary, I would agree completely that our D played especially well with one arm tied behind it's back.
2. It is painfully obvious that despite Ghoolie arguments to the contrary, we need a lot more quality in that OL. Players like Donald expose them badly.
3. Chubb is a warrior. He's now on my all ironman team this year. And if Baker had not mistakenly called our WR in motion while on the line, he'd have scored that TD instead of getting it called back. I told my daughter's father in law he needs to bill Baker $40 because his FFL player Chubb would have won him the weekend had that play counted.
4. I still cannot figure out why we constantly shift Garrett back and forth from RDE to LDE. What is the reasoning there?
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One overriding criticism: Freddie... you have to challenge that PI non-call. It was a slam-dunk...
- The play occurred with 10:11 to go in the 4th. It is rare that you would have need of 2 challenges in the next 8:11.
- Yes, you only get the down back, but you'd have 3 downs to make 9 yards... instead of only 2.
- Instead we turned the ball over on downs and you went home with two challenges in your pocket.
Initial game thoughts...
D first...
- The D did us proud... three turnovers... two by a makeshift 2ndary.
- Game ball to Joe for having a hand in two of them.... literally in the case of that last pick.
- Game ball to Wilks for his game plan.
- Sheldon... loved your false-start inducing shift near our Goalline.... but that was the only time I heard your name.
O next...
- We needed Baker under Center more.
- We needed to mix in some designed roll outs.
- We needed to go no-huddle earlier... set the pace.
- Game ball to Chubb... for being great. His patient decisiveness and use of blockers reminds me of a young L. Bell...
Maybe more tomorrow...
1. Considering we had no starters in the secondary, I would agree completely that our D played especially well with one arm tied behind it's back.
2. It is painfully obvious that despite Ghoolie arguments to the contrary, we need a lot more quality in that OL. Players like Donald expose them badly.
3. Chubb is a warrior. He's now on my all ironman team this year. And if Baker had not mistakenly called our WR in motion while on the line, he'd have scored that TD instead of getting it called back. I told my daughter's father in law he needs to bill Baker $40 because his FFL player Chubb would have won him the weekend had that play counted.
4. I still cannot figure out why we constantly shift Garrett back and forth from RDE to LDE. What is the reasoning there?
1. Considering we had no starters in the secondary, I would agree completely that our D played especially well with one arm tied behind it's back.
2. It is painfully obvious that despite Ghoolie arguments to the contrary, we need a lot more quality in that OL. Players like Donald expose them badly.
3. Chubb is a warrior. He's now on my all ironman team this year. And if Baker had not mistakenly called our WR in motion while on the line, he'd have scored that TD instead of getting it called back. I told my daughter's father in law he needs to bill Baker $40 because his FFL player Chubb would have won him the weekend had that play counted.
4. I still cannot figure out why we constantly shift Garrett back and forth from RDE to LDE. What is the reasoning there?
Re: Garrett - by design - matchup and call related
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I think we may need a HC that’s missing a few marbles. I mean in order to work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week and be in charge of 50 some prima dona athletes that have new money and get them motivated to play their best.... you should probably be stark raving mad. GW wasn’t wrapped to tightly. I agree. But now I think he is exactly what this team needs. Player don’t respect nice. Gotta keep em guessing and motivated.
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Ok...casual fans perspective..
If this was a "test" I think we passed. Defense was great...held em to 3 pts in first half...and held the to 20 overall...a high powered O...better than tennesee. We got better.
The 4th and 9...freddie took a chance...he saw the writing on the wall and tries to trick em up. He was trying to push and win the game. I have no problem with that.
Our O line needs help.
Overall grade...defense A
Offense C+
S teams B
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