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  • Can he coach?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Can he coach?

    Oh yeah in the California Penal League.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Can he coach?

    Oh yeah in the California Penal League.

    @mjp28 said:

    Oh yeah in the California Penile League.

    FIFY?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Well I just cut AB from two FF teams so now it's certain that he'll be back.... and soon...

    Why does a billionaire want yet another billion? Because it's "money"... and in AB's case it's money to which he feels... rightly or wrongly... he's entitled to. Both teams he signed with included "guaranteed" amounts.

    That would be wrongly Tour. Brown obviously isn't smart enough to read the legalese in the contracts he signed, but Rosenhaus probably is. XFL here I come.  

    Nah- heard during the Browns game several NFL teams are still willing to take a chance on this loser. We'll see.  I'll even send you a bottle of wine if Brown actually see the field on an NFL roster before week 8. That's how convinced I am AB has worn out his welcome in the NFL.   

    @hoorta said:

    That would be wrongly Tour. Brown obviously isn't smart enough to read the legalese in the contracts he signed,

    Since you've obviously read them both... would you care to forward me a copy of the contracts?

  • @hoorta said:

    That would be wrongly Tour. Brown obviously isn't smart enough to read the legalese in the contracts he signed,

    Since you've obviously read them both... would you care to forward me a copy of the contracts?

    @tour2ma said:

    Since you've obviously read them both... would you care to forward me a copy of the contracts?

    Just reporting what's been reported Tour. It's out there if you're interested. As they say- "persons with knowledge of the situation" got it out there for public consumption. I don't know- but have to wonder how websites like Spotrac and Over the Cap get access to contract info regarding how the player is paid- think they just might be able to see the actual contract?  

    https://nypost.com/2019/09/20/antonio-brown-may-have-just-cost-himself-more-millions/

    "Under the Salary Guarantee section, if Brown were to take “any action that materially undermines the public’s respect for, or is materially critical of, the Club, the Player’s teammates or the Club’s ownership, coaches, management, operations of policies then, upon election of the Club, the guarantees set forth in this section… will be null and void.”

    As well, Brown will be missing out on a number of performance incentives that could have added up to an additional $5 million.

    Brown has earned two $62,500 game checks plus a $33,333 roster bonus, according to NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero.

    This could be the second huge financial hit Brown takes.

    When Brown was traded by the Steelers to the Raiders earlier this year, he signed a 3-year deal worth potentially $54.125 million ($30.125 million guaranteed), according to ESPN.

    However, the Raiders, citing conduct detrimental to the team, voided $29.1 million of the guaranteed money following a parade of bizarre antics including threatening GM Mike Mayock. After Brown asked on social media to be cut, the Raiders did just that on Sept. 7."

    Regarding the Patriots- supposedly there was also a non-disclosure clause- AB didn't tell NE about the upcoming rape suit, then he tops it off sending threatening tweets to the artist he welshed paying. And takes a parting potshot at Kraft that someone saw before he deleted it.  Assuming the BOLD is accurate, Antonio doesn't have a legal leg to stand on.  

    Raiders- obvious why they don't want to pay the booger. Losta luck in court AB.   -

  • And you can't see the argument he'll make?

    He got into a heated argument with his GM in a closed practice. What did Mayock say? Did he leak the "detrimental" nature of any remarks he made? Is publicly asking "to be cut" detrimental? Which antic was detrimental? I believe the burden is on OAK to show the harm they suffered by a preponderance of the evidence... and I don't believe hurt feelings count.

    NE? Trickier for him. However, if he was never asked, "What else is out there?" Then any other suits, incidents, etc. would seem to potentially be immaterial. The threats? Those may end up being very different, but they are not threatening physical harm.

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    Kraft? How can he make a stink about this...

    "Kraft got caught in the parlor AB speculations fired different strokes folks clearly." In other words, he's saying there's a double standard for him and the NFL bigwigs. Brown saying Kraft was charged with a crime and he was not, and the NFL hasn't punished Kraft.

    ... when it's true?

  • Posted somewhere on the internet brought to me by my son, "Antonio Brown signed with NE and scored one touchdown as a participant in the Make A Wish Foundation."?

  • And you can't see the argument he'll make?

    He got into a heated argument with his GM in a closed practice. What did Mayock say? Did he leak the "detrimental" nature of any remarks he made? Is publicly asking "to be cut" detrimental? Which antic was detrimental? I believe the burden is on OAK to show the harm they suffered by a preponderance of the evidence... and I don't believe hurt feelings count.

    NE? Trickier for him. However, if he was never asked, "What else is out there?" Then any other suits, incidents, etc. would seem to potentially be immaterial. The threats? Those may end up being very different, but they are not threatening physical harm.

    texts-redacted-6.jpg&w=800&q=85

    Kraft? How can he make a stink about this...

    "Kraft got caught in the parlor AB speculations fired different strokes folks clearly." In other words, he's saying there's a double standard for him and the NFL bigwigs. Brown saying Kraft was charged with a crime and he was not, and the NFL hasn't punished Kraft.

    ... when it's true?

    @tour2ma said:

    And you can't see the argument he'll make?

    He got into a heated argument with his GM in a closed practice. What did Mayock say? Did he leak the "detrimental" nature of any remarks he made? Is publicly asking "to be cut" detrimental? Which antic was detrimental? I believe the burden is on OAK to show the harm they suffered by a preponderance of the evidence... and I don't believe hurt feelings count.

    NE? Trickier for him. However, if he was never asked, "What else is out there?" Then any other suits, incidents, etc. would seem to potentially be immaterial. The threats? Those may end up being very different, but they are not threatening physical harm.

    Kraft? How can he make a stink about this...

    ... when it's true?

    I'm not going to debate this further with you. Since when did you turn into an AB apologist? Because you had him on your Fantasy team ? LOL!!!!  We'll see how this eventually turns out. Since it's difficult to send wine Interstate without a license, my offer stands- I'll send you a $30 gift card to Total Wine if Brown plays in an NFL game before  Week 9, that's November 3rd. And I don't usually make losing bets....  

  • @tour2ma said:

    And you can't see the argument he'll make?

    He got into a heated argument with his GM in a closed practice. What did Mayock say? Did he leak the "detrimental" nature of any remarks he made? Is publicly asking "to be cut" detrimental? Which antic was detrimental? I believe the burden is on OAK to show the harm they suffered by a preponderance of the evidence... and I don't believe hurt feelings count.

    NE? Trickier for him. However, if he was never asked, "What else is out there?" Then any other suits, incidents, etc. would seem to potentially be immaterial. The threats? Those may end up being very different, but they are not threatening physical harm.

    Kraft? How can he make a stink about this...

    ... when it's true?

    I'm not going to debate this further with you. Since when did you turn into an AB apologist? Because you had him on your Fantasy team ? LOL!!!!  We'll see how this eventually turns out. Since it's difficult to send wine Interstate without a license, my offer stands- I'll send you a $30 gift card to Total Wine if Brown plays in an NFL game before  Week 9, that's November 3rd. And I don't usually make losing bets....  

    Sounds like you have no reply so you are taking your ball and going home.

    @hoorta said:

    apologist

    Hardly... if I ever endorsed, excused or otherwise supported his actions, please point them out.

    Just seeing things as I see them... foremost of which is a bunch of folks... including you... rushing to judgement with no particular insight into what occurred just a plethora of bias.

    As for the bet... It's week 3... there are 17 total... 17 - 3 =14... 14/2 = 7... 7+3 = 10.... Give me Week 10 and it's a bet... but I might want certificate for a store closer than 100 miles from me...;)

  • Sounds like you have no reply so you are taking your ball and going home.

    @hoorta said:

    apologist

    Hardly... if I ever endorsed, excused or otherwise supported his actions, please point them out.

    Just seeing things as I see them... foremost of which is a bunch of folks... including you... rushing to judgement with no particular insight into what occurred just a plethora of bias.

    As for the bet... It's week 3... there are 17 total... 17 - 3 =14... 14/2 = 7... 7+3 = 10.... Give me Week 10 and it's a bet... but I might want certificate for a store closer than 100 miles from me...;)

    @tour2ma said:

    Sounds like you have no reply so you are taking your ball and going home.

    Hardly... if I ever endorsed, excused or otherwise supported his actions, please point them out.

    Just seeing things as I see them... foremost of which is a bunch of folks... including you... rushing to judgement with no particular insight into what occurred just a plethora of bias.

    As for the bet... It's week 3... there are 17 total... 17 - 3 =14... 14/2 = 7... 7+3 = 10.... Give me Week 10 and it's a bet... but I might want certificate for a store closer than 100 miles from me...;)

    You'd have to cash it in the next time you visit the relatives in Houston.  😁 

    This stuff is more than just unsubstantiated rumors and sensationalistic  press bias Tour- and you know it. For sure, the Pats wouldn't have dumped him if they thought otherwise. Week 10? You're on, and double if he doesn't play this year. I'll even treat you to one of my 20 yard line seats, if you ever make it up to Cleveland for a game.... 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Sounds like you have no reply so you are taking your ball and going home.

    Hardly... if I ever endorsed, excused or otherwise supported his actions, please point them out.

    Just seeing things as I see them... foremost of which is a bunch of folks... including you... rushing to judgement with no particular insight into what occurred just a plethora of bias.

    As for the bet... It's week 3... there are 17 total... 17 - 3 =14... 14/2 = 7... 7+3 = 10.... Give me Week 10 and it's a bet... but I might want certificate for a store closer than 100 miles from me...;)

    You'd have to cash it in the next time you visit the relatives in Houston.  😁 

    This stuff is more than just unsubstantiated rumors and sensationalistic  press bias Tour- and you know it. For sure, the Pats wouldn't have dumped him if they thought otherwise. Week 10? You're on, and double if he doesn't play this year. I'll even treat you to one of my 20 yard line seats, if you ever make it up to Cleveland for a game.... 

    @hoorta said:

    1. You'd have to cash it in the next time you visit the relatives in Houston.  😁 
    2. This stuff is more than just unsubstantiated rumors and sensationalistic  press bias Tour- and you know it.
    3. Week 10? You're on, and double if he doesn't play this year. 
    1. I can do that... this Thanksgiving, if not before...
    2. I wasn't talking about the press...
    3. So I win $30 if he signs before Sunday of Week 10, but you win $60 if he doesn't play this year?
  • @hoorta said:

    1. You'd have to cash it in the next time you visit the relatives in Houston.  😁 
    2. This stuff is more than just unsubstantiated rumors and sensationalistic  press bias Tour- and you know it.
    3. Week 10? You're on, and double if he doesn't play this year. 
    1. I can do that... this Thanksgiving, if not before...
    2. I wasn't talking about the press...
    3. So I win $30 if he signs before Sunday of Week 10, but you win $60 if he doesn't play this year?

    @tour2ma said:

    1. I can do that... this Thanksgiving, if not before...
    2. I wasn't talking about the press...
    3. So I win $30 if he signs before Sunday of Week 10, but you win $60 if he doesn't play this year?

    Clarification. It's  not just "signs" Tour, Antonio has to  actually  play in a game. You know, Commissioner's Exempt  list. And you're  in a no lose proposition, I'm  pretty  sure he won't  see the  field  this year. If he doesn't  play  all year, I'll  take $60 virtual  dollars, but if he plays after week  ten, the gift card doubles  to $60 bucks. 🙂

  • @tour2ma said:

    1. I can do that... this Thanksgiving, if not before...
    2. I wasn't talking about the press...
    3. So I win $30 if he signs before Sunday of Week 10, but you win $60 if he doesn't play this year?

    Clarification. It's  not just "signs" Tour, Antonio has to  actually  play in a game. You know, Commissioner's Exempt  list. And you're  in a no lose proposition, I'm  pretty  sure he won't  see the  field  this year. If he doesn't  play  all year, I'll  take $60 virtual  dollars, but if he plays after week  ten, the gift card doubles  to $60 bucks. 🙂

    @hoorta said:

    Clarification. It's  not just "signs" Tour, Antonio has to  actually  play in a game. You know, Commissioner's Exempt  list. And you're  in a no lose proposition, I'm  pretty  sure he won't  see the  field  this year. If he doesn't  play  all year, I'll  take $60 virtual  dollars, but if he plays after week  ten, the gift card doubles  to $60 bucks. 🙂

    I still don't fully understand the bet, but since I can't lose I'm in....

    Let me know how much I win and when I win it.

  • Sounds like you have no reply so you are taking your ball and going home.

    @hoorta said:

    apologist

    Hardly... if I ever endorsed, excused or otherwise supported his actions, please point them out.

    Just seeing things as I see them... foremost of which is a bunch of folks... including you... rushing to judgement with no particular insight into what occurred just a plethora of bias.

    As for the bet... It's week 3... there are 17 total... 17 - 3 =14... 14/2 = 7... 7+3 = 10.... Give me Week 10 and it's a bet... but I might want certificate for a store closer than 100 miles from me...;)

    @tour2ma said:

    Sounds like you have no reply so you are taking your ball and going home.

    Hardly... if I ever endorsed, excused or otherwise supported his actions, please point them out.

    Just seeing things as I see them... foremost of which is a bunch of folks... including you... rushing to judgement with no particular insight into what occurred just a plethora of bias.

    As for the bet... It's week 3... there are 17 total... 17 - 3 =14... 14/2 = 7... 7+3 = 10.... Give me Week 10 and it's a bet... but I might want certificate for a store closer than 100 miles from me...;)

    I'll take that bet. But can we make it an even $50? That seems so much easier....

    If Brown plays in any NFL game from now to on or before week 10, I will send you $50. Check, cash, paypal, visa pre-paid, etc.

    If Brown hasn't played in any NFL game from now to on or before week 10, you send me $50, same method.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Sounds like you have no reply so you are taking your ball and going home.

    Hardly... if I ever endorsed, excused or otherwise supported his actions, please point them out.

    Just seeing things as I see them... foremost of which is a bunch of folks... including you... rushing to judgement with no particular insight into what occurred just a plethora of bias.

    As for the bet... It's week 3... there are 17 total... 17 - 3 =14... 14/2 = 7... 7+3 = 10.... Give me Week 10 and it's a bet... but I might want certificate for a store closer than 100 miles from me...;)

    I'll take that bet. But can we make it an even $50? That seems so much easier....

    If Brown plays in any NFL game from now to on or before week 10, I will send you $50. Check, cash, paypal, visa pre-paid, etc.

    If Brown hasn't played in any NFL game from now to on or before week 10, you send me $50, same method.

    @steelersfan412 said:

    I'll take that bet. But can we make it an even $50? That seems so much easier....

    If Brown plays in any NFL game from now to on or before week 10, I will send you $50. Check, cash, paypal, visa pre-paid, etc.

    If Brown hasn't played in any NFL game from now to on or before week 10, you send me $50, same method.

    You would be better off with an avatar of Potzi. (and who is in whose head?...you mention me in your profile...yet I give not one thought about you beyond the moment that I am replying to one of your posts.)

    Time for Z to do his thing with your screen name. 

    no one really makes these bets on here....unless we know each other.  e.g. hoorta paid off the  wine bet we had.....but I never did collect my pitcher of Margaritas from Stan before he passed on our Trubisky bet.

  • @steelersfan412 said:

    I'll take that bet. But can we make it an even $50? That seems so much easier....

    If Brown plays in any NFL game from now to on or before week 10, I will send you $50. Check, cash, paypal, visa pre-paid, etc.

    If Brown hasn't played in any NFL game from now to on or before week 10, you send me $50, same method.

    You would be better off with an avatar of Potzi. (and who is in whose head?...you mention me in your profile...yet I give not one thought about you beyond the moment that I am replying to one of your posts.)

    Time for Z to do his thing with your screen name. 

    no one really makes these bets on here....unless we know each other.  e.g. hoorta paid off the  wine bet we had.....but I never did collect my pitcher of Margaritas from Stan before he passed on our Trubisky bet.

    @the-gipper said:

    You would be better off with an avatar of Potzi. (and who is in whose head?...you mention me in your profile...yet I give not one thought about you beyond the moment that I am replying to one of your posts.)

    This is you, giving one thought of me in a post I made that you weren't named in or quoted in......

    Time for Z to do his thing with your screen name.

    Letz Goz Z!!!! And Letz Goz Browns!!!!

    no one really makes these bets on here....unless we know each other.  e.g. hoorta paid off the  wine bet we had.....but I never did collect my pitcher of Margaritas from Stan before he passed on our Trubisky bet.

    Unlike some delusional bastards, I will stand true to my word. If I make a bet and lose, I will pay up. I would expect any reasonable man to do the same.

  • @the-gipper said:

    You would be better off with an avatar of Potzi. (and who is in whose head?...you mention me in your profile...yet I give not one thought about you beyond the moment that I am replying to one of your posts.)

    This is you, giving one thought of me in a post I made that you weren't named in or quoted in......

    Time for Z to do his thing with your screen name.

    Letz Goz Z!!!! And Letz Goz Browns!!!!

    no one really makes these bets on here....unless we know each other.  e.g. hoorta paid off the  wine bet we had.....but I never did collect my pitcher of Margaritas from Stan before he passed on our Trubisky bet.

    Unlike some delusional bastards, I will stand true to my word. If I make a bet and lose, I will pay up. I would expect any reasonable man to do the same.

    @steelersfan412 said:

    You would be better off with an avatar of Potzi. (and who is in whose head?...you mention me in your profile...yet I give not one thought about you beyond the moment that I am replying to one of your posts.)

    This is you, giving one thought of me in a post I made that you weren't named in or quoted in......

    I read every post put on this forum....and I reply to those that I wish. 

    Time for Z to do his thing with your screen name.

    Letz Goz Z!!!! And Letz Goz Browns!!!!

    You have no clue what I am talking about.....just wait for it. 

    no one really makes these bets on here....unless we know each other.  e.g. hoorta paid off the  wine bet we had.....but I never did collect my pitcher of Margaritas from Stan before he passed on our Trubisky bet.

    Unlike some delusional bastards, I will stand true to my word. If I make a bet and lose, I will pay up. I would expect any reasonable man to do the same.

    Sure. I would expect that.  But bets rarely if ever happen on here between strangers.  On the rare occasions where I think it has been done, there has usually been a third part escrow agent involved...to assure compliance.  Reagan said it:  trust but verify.  I will be glad to hold you and Tour's money in my Client Trust account if you want to consummate that bet.

  • @steelersfan412 said:

    You would be better off with an avatar of Potzi. (and who is in whose head?...you mention me in your profile...yet I give not one thought about you beyond the moment that I am replying to one of your posts.)

    This is you, giving one thought of me in a post I made that you weren't named in or quoted in......

    I read every post put on this forum....and I reply to those that I wish. 

    Time for Z to do his thing with your screen name.

    Letz Goz Z!!!! And Letz Goz Browns!!!!

    You have no clue what I am talking about.....just wait for it. 

    no one really makes these bets on here....unless we know each other.  e.g. hoorta paid off the  wine bet we had.....but I never did collect my pitcher of Margaritas from Stan before he passed on our Trubisky bet.

    Unlike some delusional bastards, I will stand true to my word. If I make a bet and lose, I will pay up. I would expect any reasonable man to do the same.

    Sure. I would expect that.  But bets rarely if ever happen on here between strangers.  On the rare occasions where I think it has been done, there has usually been a third part escrow agent involved...to assure compliance.  Reagan said it:  trust but verify.  I will be glad to hold you and Tour's money in my Client Trust account if you want to consummate that bet.

    @the-gipper said:

    You would be better off with an avatar of Potzi. (and who is in whose head?...you mention me in your profile...yet I give not one thought about you beyond the moment that I am replying to one of your posts.)

    This is you, giving one thought of me in a post I made that you weren't named in or quoted in......

    I read every post put on this forum....and I reply to those that I wish. 

    Time for Z to do his thing with your screen name.

    Letz Goz Z!!!! And Letz Goz Browns!!!!

    You have no clue what I am talking about.....just wait for it. 

    no one really makes these bets on here....unless we know each other.  e.g. hoorta paid off the  wine bet we had.....but I never did collect my pitcher of Margaritas from Stan before he passed on our Trubisky bet.

    Unlike some delusional bastards, I will stand true to my word. If I make a bet and lose, I will pay up. I would expect any reasonable man to do the same.

    Sure. I would expect that.  But bets rarely if ever happen on here between strangers.  On the rare occasions where I think it has been done, there has usually been a third part escrow agent involved...to assure compliance.  Reagan said it:  trust but verify.  I will be glad to hold you and Tour's money in my Client Trust account if you want to consummate that bet.

    I would be more than happy to have my money, as well as Tour's, held in a trust account, or escrow. I however would not entrust it to a delusional bastard. I'll put it in the hands of someone who lives in this dimension, provided that is something Tour (who I don't know) would agree to. That being said, its only $50.....

  • @the-gipper said:

    You would be better off with an avatar of Potzi. (and who is in whose head?...you mention me in your profile...yet I give not one thought about you beyond the moment that I am replying to one of your posts.)

    This is you, giving one thought of me in a post I made that you weren't named in or quoted in......

    I read every post put on this forum....and I reply to those that I wish. 

    Time for Z to do his thing with your screen name.

    Letz Goz Z!!!! And Letz Goz Browns!!!!

    You have no clue what I am talking about.....just wait for it. 

    no one really makes these bets on here....unless we know each other.  e.g. hoorta paid off the  wine bet we had.....but I never did collect my pitcher of Margaritas from Stan before he passed on our Trubisky bet.

    Unlike some delusional bastards, I will stand true to my word. If I make a bet and lose, I will pay up. I would expect any reasonable man to do the same.

    Sure. I would expect that.  But bets rarely if ever happen on here between strangers.  On the rare occasions where I think it has been done, there has usually been a third part escrow agent involved...to assure compliance.  Reagan said it:  trust but verify.  I will be glad to hold you and Tour's money in my Client Trust account if you want to consummate that bet.

    I would be more than happy to have my money, as well as Tour's, held in a trust account, or escrow. I however would not entrust it to a delusional bastard. I'll put it in the hands of someone who lives in this dimension, provided that is something Tour (who I don't know) would agree to. That being said, its only $50.....

    @steelersfan412 said:

    I would be more than happy to have my money, as well as Tour's, held in a trust account, or escrow. I however would not entrust it to a delusional bastard. I'll put it in the hands of someone who lives in this dimension, provided that is something Tour (who I don't know) would agree to. That being said, its only $50.....

    You have NO fucking idea who you are dealing with, do you. 

  • Someone who thinks they're intelligent, but is really a self-taught country bumpkin who prides themselves on reciting things they've read of the intrawebz to think they sound smart? I've run across "The Gipper"''s type before. I know who I'm talking to.

  • Someone who thinks they're intelligent, but is really a self-taught country bumpkin who prides themselves on reciting things they've read of the intrawebz to think they sound smart? I've run across "The Gipper"''s type before. I know who I'm talking to.

    @steelersfan412 said:

    Someone who thinks they're intelligent, but is really a self-taught country bumpkin who prides themselves on reciting things they've read of the intrawebz to think they sound smart? I've run across "The Gipper"''s type before. I know who I'm talking to.

    Yep....you have no fucking clue. Typical stupid Steeler fan.  

    Well, I have run across your type before as well I would say.  In one aspect of my career,  I have had to put my fair share of you in jail.  In another aspect you would probably fit in with the few murderers (including one serial killer), rapists, thieves and spousal abusers that I have had to represent. Some in their criminal matters, a few others at their commitment hearings. You would fit right in.