Skip to content
The Browns Board
Theme
  • System
  • Light
  • Dark
  • Login
  • Register
  • Forums
  • Recent
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Donate
  1. Home
  2. The Browns Board
  3. WEEK 4 - One man's opinion on the BROWNS of course and the anti-BROWNS!

WEEK 4 - One man's opinion on the BROWNS of course and the anti-BROWNS!

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Browns Board
37 Posts 8 Posters 1.0k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @mjp28 said:

    Wouldn't we all just love to see the BROWNS 100% healthy this every week? 

    FIFY

    @hx214 said:

    I haven’t felt good about a single game all year yet.... for some reason I have a good feeling about Sunday....

    ... or could be gas...

    hx214 hx214H One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
    • 1k Posts
    • 474 Reputation
    hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by
    #18

    @tour2ma said:

    FIFY

    ... or could be gas...

    Nah. 

    We just saw Wilks put together a good enough defensive gameplan to beat the NFC Champs with a bunch of third string CB's. The front line stopped maybe the best running back in the league from doing basically anything all game. 

    The Ravens don't have Donaldson or even Matthews.  OBJ owned the Raven's secondary last year.  

    AND there is no way Freddie could call a worse offensive game than he just did last week.

    The Rats are flying high on a big win against the Fins and a 6 point win against the Cards.  The Chiefs had a 17 point lead going into the 4th quarter and their defense phoned it in. 

    Nobody is talking about Myles Garrett being a dirty player this week. Hopefully he is due for a few good pile drivers.

    Let's line them up and see what happens. 

    1 Reply Last reply
    👍
    Quote Reply
    • Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
      • 30k Posts
      • 6k Reputation
      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
      #19

      A number of folks are talking about the Ravens lack of pass rush. That may be true from a sack and front 3/4 standpoint, but per PFF...

      Cleveland Browns @ Baltimore Ravens

      The Browns are in trouble, and the subpar play of Baker Mayfield is largely to blame. Cleveland’s offensive line is conceding a 36% pressure rate (14th-most) and Mayfield has been anemic on these pressure dropbacks — 37% completion percentage (28th), 4.6 yards per attempt (28th), 28.3 passer rating (29th), and a 24% sack rate (sixth most). The Ravens pressure opposing quarterbacks on 38% of dropbacks, the ninth-highest rate in the league.

      So they are getting pressure on opposing QBs at essentially the same rate we have allowed it.

      "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
      mjp28M hx214H 2 Replies Last reply
      Quote Reply
      • Tour2maT Tour2ma

        A number of folks are talking about the Ravens lack of pass rush. That may be true from a sack and front 3/4 standpoint, but per PFF...

        Cleveland Browns @ Baltimore Ravens

        The Browns are in trouble, and the subpar play of Baker Mayfield is largely to blame. Cleveland’s offensive line is conceding a 36% pressure rate (14th-most) and Mayfield has been anemic on these pressure dropbacks — 37% completion percentage (28th), 4.6 yards per attempt (28th), 28.3 passer rating (29th), and a 24% sack rate (sixth most). The Ravens pressure opposing quarterbacks on 38% of dropbacks, the ninth-highest rate in the league.

        So they are getting pressure on opposing QBs at essentially the same rate we have allowed it.

        mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
        • 18k Posts
        • 4k Reputation
        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
        #20

        @tour2ma said:

        A number of folks are talking about the Ravens lack of pass rush. That may be true from a sack and front 3/4 standpoint, but per PFF...

        So they are getting pressure on opposing QBs at essentially the same rate we have allowed it.

        I have always liked stats remembering that some can be misleading or skewed by other factors but most of the time they can tell a story or paint a picture of what is going on.......and occasionally reveal some really interesting things that might not otherwise be seen.  

        Kinda' spooky huh.   🥷

        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
        1 Reply Last reply
        Quote Reply
        • Tour2maT Tour2ma

          A number of folks are talking about the Ravens lack of pass rush. That may be true from a sack and front 3/4 standpoint, but per PFF...

          Cleveland Browns @ Baltimore Ravens

          The Browns are in trouble, and the subpar play of Baker Mayfield is largely to blame. Cleveland’s offensive line is conceding a 36% pressure rate (14th-most) and Mayfield has been anemic on these pressure dropbacks — 37% completion percentage (28th), 4.6 yards per attempt (28th), 28.3 passer rating (29th), and a 24% sack rate (sixth most). The Ravens pressure opposing quarterbacks on 38% of dropbacks, the ninth-highest rate in the league.

          So they are getting pressure on opposing QBs at essentially the same rate we have allowed it.

          hx214 hx214H One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
          • 1k Posts
          • 474 Reputation
          hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by hx214
          #21

          @tour2ma said:

          A number of folks are talking about the Ravens lack of pass rush. That may be true from a sack and front 3/4 standpoint, but per PFF...

          So they are getting pressure on opposing QBs at essentially the same rate we have allowed it.

          I can’t take any of the Ravens numbers seriously yet. They played the Fins and the Cards. The Cards had the worst OLine I have ever seen in the NFL last year. 

          Cam Irving is a starting lineman for the Chiefs...

          1 Reply Last reply
          👍
          Quote Reply
          • Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
            • 30k Posts
            • 6k Reputation
            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
            #22

            Points taken...

            "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
            1 Reply Last reply
            Quote Reply
            • hx214H hx214

              @mjp28 said:

              Wouldn't we all just love to see the BROWNS 100% healthy this week?  

              I still think that the OL and offense in general hasn't put it together yet.  Mayfield set some big rookie numbers last year he's due.

              I haven’t felt good about a single game all year yet.... for some reason I have a good feeling about Sunday....

              mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
              • 18k Posts
              • 4k Reputation
              mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
              #23

              @hx214 said:

              I haven’t felt good about a single game all year yet.... for some reason I have a good feeling about Sunday....

              Strange as it may seem I kind of have that same feeling.

              Despite being unpleasantly surprised in week 1, unimpressed in week 2 and so close in week 3 I think that this might be the make or break weekend.

              GO BROWNS, just win this one!

              GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
              1 Reply Last reply
              Quote Reply
              • Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
                • 30k Posts
                • 6k Reputation
                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
                #24

                Not to the "good feeling" stage yet, but I'm moving there...

                And it's due to what I saw last nite.

                BLT hasn't seen a D like ours yet... CBs or no CBs... just as the Packers D hadn't seen an OL like the Iggles.

                Thru the fog I can see the outline of an ugly, ugly win... something like 13-6 or 10-9... with our D scoring the only TD.

                Couple more days to bring it into focus.

                "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
                1 Reply Last reply
                Quote Reply
                • mjp28M mjp28

                  The Browns’ talent level has increased dramatically. But until the Browns curb their penalties – they were leading the NFL in penalties – and get better play from Baker Mayfield they can’t be trusted in this tough of a road setting. The Ravens have surrendered 24 points or fewer in 14 of their last 15 home games. Baltimore hasn’t permitted 100 yards rushing to an opponent in a league-high 10 games in a row. The Ravens rank third in run defense. 

                  This is bad news for Nick Chubb. While Mayfield has shown signs of regression, Lamar Jackson is the most improved quarterback in the league, and facing a Cleveland secondary that has multiple injuries.

                  All of the national opinions have seemed have gone away from the overhauled BROWNS at least for now. Plus many are giving the AFCN to Baltimore and the 46 point O/U seems so high. The BROWNS OL looks like Swiss cheese, the defense is dinged up.

                  SO what to do? Easy, this is a must win for the BROWNS take the generous CLE +7 and screw the under go OVER 46 and enjoy the game.  😁

                  mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
                  • 18k Posts
                  • 4k Reputation
                  mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
                  #25

                  @mjp28 said:

                  The Browns’ talent level has increased dramatically. But until the Browns curb their penalties – they were leading the NFL in penalties – and get better play from Baker Mayfield they can’t be trusted in this tough of a road setting. The Ravens have surrendered 24 points or fewer in 14 of their last 15 home games. Baltimore hasn’t permitted 100 yards rushing to an opponent in a league-high 10 games in a row. The Ravens rank third in run defense. 

                  This is bad news for Nick Chubb. 😆     While Mayfield has shown signs of regression, Lamar Jackson is the most improved quarterback in the league, and facing a Cleveland secondary that has multiple injuries.

                  All of the national opinions have seemed have gone away from the overhauled BROWNS at least for now. Plus many are giving the AFCN to Baltimore and the 46 point O/U seems so high. The BROWNS OL looks like Swiss cheese, the defense is dinged up.

                  SO what to do? Easy, this is a must win for the BROWNS take the generous CLE +7 and screw the under go OVER 46 and enjoy the game.  😁

                  Oh we enjoyed the game alright!  CLEVELAND 40 Baltimore 25.

                  GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
                  The GipperT 1 Reply Last reply
                  👍
                  Quote Reply
                  • mjp28M mjp28

                    @mjp28 said:

                    The Browns’ talent level has increased dramatically. But until the Browns curb their penalties – they were leading the NFL in penalties – and get better play from Baker Mayfield they can’t be trusted in this tough of a road setting. The Ravens have surrendered 24 points or fewer in 14 of their last 15 home games. Baltimore hasn’t permitted 100 yards rushing to an opponent in a league-high 10 games in a row. The Ravens rank third in run defense. 

                    This is bad news for Nick Chubb. 😆     While Mayfield has shown signs of regression, Lamar Jackson is the most improved quarterback in the league, and facing a Cleveland secondary that has multiple injuries.

                    All of the national opinions have seemed have gone away from the overhauled BROWNS at least for now. Plus many are giving the AFCN to Baltimore and the 46 point O/U seems so high. The BROWNS OL looks like Swiss cheese, the defense is dinged up.

                    SO what to do? Easy, this is a must win for the BROWNS take the generous CLE +7 and screw the under go OVER 46 and enjoy the game.  😁

                    Oh we enjoyed the game alright!  CLEVELAND 40 Baltimore 25.

                    The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
                    • 57k Posts
                    • 4k Reputation
                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
                    #26

                    @mjp28 said:

                    Oh we enjoyed the game alright!  CLEVELAND 40 Baltimore 25.

                    You are quoting yourself now?  I assume only to highlight how wrong you were on these points:

                    The Browns’ talent level has increased dramatically.  That was evident today I believe.

                    But until the Browns curb their penalties – they were leading the NFL in penalties – there were still penalties...but none seemed as killer as they have in past games.

                    and get better play from Baker Mayfield they can’t be trusted in this tough of a road setting.  Well...they got that, so I guess He can now be trusted..

                    The Ravens have surrendered 24 points or fewer in 14 of their last 15 home games. Throw this out the window.

                    Baltimore hasn’t permitted 100 yards rushing to an opponent in a league-high 10 games in a row.  Throw this out the window.

                    The Ravens rank third in run defense.  And now...are they even in the top half.

                    This is bad news for Nick Chubb.  Or shall we say, Nick Chubb was bad news for them.

                    While Mayfield has shown signs of regression,  regression...no.  Ability to improve..yes, sure.

                    Lamar Jackson is the most improved quarterback in the league,  Oh...that is a vast overstatement...(he is "somewhat improved" perhaps)  as was all the love for the Ratfuckers after beating Miami, and Arizona.

                    and facing a Cleveland secondary that has multiple injuries. That he did...but that secondary stepped up well.

                    All of the national opinions have seemed have gone away from the overhauled BROWNS at least for now. And now they will all change their fickle minds back

                    Plus many are giving the AFCN to Baltimore and the 46 point O/U seems so high. Well, now they can shove that opinion up their collective arses.

                    The BROWNS OL looks like Swiss cheese, the defense is dinged up.  I look forward to both of them getting healthier and better.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    Quote Reply
                    • mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
                      • 18k Posts
                      • 4k Reputation
                      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      I just accumulate the stats that are out there and make some of my observations and opinions about them that's all.

                      I hope you didn't lose and sleep putting your little diatribe about them together.    😆

                      I also hope that you enjoyed the game, I did.

                      GO BROWNS!

                      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
                      The GipperT 1 Reply Last reply
                      👍 😂
                      Quote Reply
                      • TexasAg1969 T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                        • 23k Posts
                        • 6k Reputation
                        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        I heard that this was the first time in Browns history they had a 300+ yard passer, a 100+ yard runner and a 100+ yard receiver all in the same game.

                        The GipperT mjp28M 2 Replies Last reply
                        ❤
                        Quote Reply
                        • mjp28M mjp28

                          I just accumulate the stats that are out there and make some of my observations and opinions about them that's all.

                          I hope you didn't lose and sleep putting your little diatribe about them together.    😆

                          I also hope that you enjoyed the game, I did.

                          GO BROWNS!

                          The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
                          • 57k Posts
                          • 4k Reputation
                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
                          #29

                          @mjp28 said:

                          I just accumulate the stats that are out there and make some of my observations and opinions about them that's all.

                          I hope you didn't lose and sleep putting your little diatribe about them together.    😆

                          I also hope that you enjoyed the game, I did.

                          GO BROWNS!

                          Like I said...if you were going to quote yourself, you should have pointed out your own errors...and not have left it to me to do so.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          😂
                          Quote Reply
                          • T TexasAg1969

                            I heard that this was the first time in Browns history they had a 300+ yard passer, a 100+ yard runner and a 100+ yard receiver all in the same game.

                            The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
                            • 57k Posts
                            • 4k Reputation
                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            @texasag1969 said:

                            I heard that this was the first time in Browns history they had a 300+ yard passer, a 100+ yard runner and a 100+ yard receiver all in the same game.

                            That does not seem right....give the great RBs/receivers they have had, plus QBs.

                            mjp28M T 2 Replies Last reply
                            Quote Reply
                            • The GipperT The Gipper

                              @texasag1969 said:

                              I heard that this was the first time in Browns history they had a 300+ yard passer, a 100+ yard runner and a 100+ yard receiver all in the same game.

                              That does not seem right....give the great RBs/receivers they have had, plus QBs.

                              mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
                              • 18k Posts
                              • 4k Reputation
                              mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
                              #31

                              @the-gipper said:

                              That does not seem right....give the great RBs/receivers they have had, plus QBs.

                              It is TRUE according to Elias Sports Bureau a 300/150/150.

                              Screenshot_2019-09-29_211220.jpg

                              GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
                              The GipperT 1 Reply Last reply
                              Quote Reply
                              • The GipperT The Gipper

                                @texasag1969 said:

                                I heard that this was the first time in Browns history they had a 300+ yard passer, a 100+ yard runner and a 100+ yard receiver all in the same game.

                                That does not seem right....give the great RBs/receivers they have had, plus QBs.

                                TexasAg1969 T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                                • 23k Posts
                                • 6k Reputation
                                T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
                                #32

                                @the-gipper said:

                                That does not seem right....give the great RBs/receivers they have had, plus QBs.

                                It  was reported on NFL Network I  believe.

                                mjp28M 1 Reply Last reply
                                Quote Reply
                                • T TexasAg1969

                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  That does not seem right....give the great RBs/receivers they have had, plus QBs.

                                  It  was reported on NFL Network I  believe.

                                  mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
                                  • 18k Posts
                                  • 4k Reputation
                                  mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
                                  #33

                                  @texasag1969 said:

                                  It  was reported on NFL Network I  believe.

                                  And ESPN,  Elias is the big name in that stats  history stuff.

                                  GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  Quote Reply
                                  • mjp28M mjp28

                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    That does not seem right....give the great RBs/receivers they have had, plus QBs.

                                    It is TRUE according to Elias Sports Bureau a 300/150/150.

                                    Screenshot_2019-09-29_211220.jpg

                                    The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
                                    • 57k Posts
                                    • 4k Reputation
                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
                                    #34

                                    @mjp28 said:

                                    It is TRUE according to Elias Sports Bureau a 300/150/150.

                                    Screenshot_2019-09-29_211220.jpg

                                    Well...the prior post said  300/100/100.   That does not seem right to me....but 300/150/150...that could be.   

                                    But then...how many teams have ever had 3 players accomplish those numbers in a game?  I suggest not very many.

                                    mjp28M 1 Reply Last reply
                                    Quote Reply
                                    • The GipperT The Gipper

                                      @mjp28 said:

                                      It is TRUE according to Elias Sports Bureau a 300/150/150.

                                      Screenshot_2019-09-29_211220.jpg

                                      Well...the prior post said  300/100/100.   That does not seem right to me....but 300/150/150...that could be.   

                                      But then...how many teams have ever had 3 players accomplish those numbers in a game?  I suggest not very many.

                                      mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
                                      • 18k Posts
                                      • 4k Reputation
                                      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
                                      #35

                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Well...the prior post said  300/100/100.   That does not seem right to me....but 300/150/150...that could be.   

                                      But then...how many teams have ever had 3 players accomplish those numbers in a game?  I suggest not very many.

                                      No it said 300+/ 100+/ 100+.

                                      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      Quote Reply
                                      • T TexasAg1969

                                        I heard that this was the first time in Browns history they had a 300+ yard passer, a 100+ yard runner and a 100+ yard receiver all in the same game.

                                        mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
                                        • 18k Posts
                                        • 4k Reputation
                                        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
                                        #36

                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        I heard that this was the first time in Browns history they had a 300+ yard passer, a 100+ yard runner and a 100+ yard receiver all in the same game.

                                        The post. Actually Elias said it was indeed 300+/150+/150+.  I'd believe that the BROWNS had great RBs more than great WRs in it's history.

                                        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
                                        T 1 Reply Last reply
                                        Quote Reply
                                        • mjp28M mjp28

                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          I heard that this was the first time in Browns history they had a 300+ yard passer, a 100+ yard runner and a 100+ yard receiver all in the same game.

                                          The post. Actually Elias said it was indeed 300+/150+/150+.  I'd believe that the BROWNS had great RBs more than great WRs in it's history.

                                          TexasAg1969 T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
                                          • 23k Posts
                                          • 6k Reputation
                                          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
                                          #37

                                          @mjp28 said:

                                          The post. Actually Elias said it was indeed 300+/150+/150+.  I'd believe that the BROWNS had great RBs more than great WRs in it's history.

                                          I didn't have my hearing aids on I guess.???

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          Quote Reply

                                          Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                                          Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                                          With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                                          Register Login
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          Theme
                                          • System
                                          • Light
                                          • Dark
                                          The Browns Board Terms Privacy

                                          The Browns Board is an independent fan community. It is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or sponsored by the Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Cavaliers, Cleveland Guardians, the NFL, NBA, MLB, or any of their affiliates. Team names, logos, and other marks are the property of their respective owners.

                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Forums
                                          • Recent
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Donate