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Raiders Vontaze Burfict suspended for season for helmet to helmet hit

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  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
    #18

    I get that he won’t get paid. So after he holds up a bank or two in order to make ends meet, will the grudens take him back next year?

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #19

    Well, that was a pretty flagrant and intentional foul.  Based on his past disregard for the protection rules, gone for the year?  I'm good with that.

    I can still see in my mind's eye when Jim McMahon threw an INT against the packers...and then one of the DLinemen grabbed him and slammed him on his head & shoulder.  I remember thinking, "In reality, criminal proceedings should be brought against that guy."  

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #20

    They were just discussing this before halftime on MNF, everybody is crucifying Burfict and his hit and history of bad conduct.

    Will anyone else want him next year?  Too toxic?

  • They were just discussing this before halftime on MNF, everybody is crucifying Burfict and his hit and history of bad conduct.

    Will anyone else want him next year?  Too toxic?

    jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @mjp28 said:

    They were just discussing this before halftime on MNF, everybody is crucifying Burfict and his hit and history of bad conduct.

    Will anyone else want him next year?  Too toxic?

    Booger made the point that the coaches that keep putting him on the field are part of the problem. I agree with him. It really also burns my ass to see Burflict laughing as he’s ejected running of the field. He is a friggin psychopath. 

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #22

    Back in the day, Gregg Williams would've loved to have had him.

    Quite simply, he plays the game the way it use to be played.  It ain't played like that no more.  And it never should have been.

  • hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by
    #23

    Meh looks like the standard James Harrison tackle to me. Nobody gave a shit when it was happening to the Browns, What’s everybody in the NFL getting so worked up about now? 

  • Meh looks like the standard James Harrison tackle to me. Nobody gave a shit when it was happening to the Browns, What’s everybody in the NFL getting so worked up about now? 

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #24

    @hx214 said:

    What’s everybody in the NFL getting so worked up about now? 

    Concussions.  And what they will do to the game of football.

  • @hx214 said:

    What’s everybody in the NFL getting so worked up about now? 

    Concussions.  And what they will do to the game of football.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @orion said:

    Concussions.  And what they will do to the game of football.

    Yes concussions and the related CTE plus all of the other debilitating injuries that if a player is lucky lasts about 3.4 years. It's a brutal sport to say the least.

    The NFL has already settled for billions of dollars and there will probably be more to come.

    And then there's peewee, high school and up participation is dropping every year.......but that's another discussion for another day.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #26

    And the asshole was blowing kisses to the Indy crowd as he ran up the tunnel...

    Such a waste of talent.

    Loved the league letter to him.

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  • medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
    #27

    I know this was brought up on here many years back, but how would any of you Dawgs feel if Dorsey brought him to the Land? I don't think you can count on the guy, he is a penalty waiting and a pos person. I don't want no thugs on our team. I a sure we mite have 1 or 2 now but if so they hide it well. V.B. is the type of person to drive by a car accident with people injured ad just laugh and not offer help. IMO he is the same as the Roid Monkey Harrison 

  • And this little tidbit.  Is the penalty too harsh or not? Anyone surprised?

    The league said that he will be not be paid during the suspension, which covers the postseason as well. The league cited repeated violations of unnecessary roughness rules.

    NFL vice president of football operations Jon Runyan's wrote a letter to Burfict explaining the decision.

    "There were no mitigating circumstances on this play," it said. "Your contact was unnecessary, flagrant and should have been avoided. For your actions, you were penalized and disqualified from the game. Following each of your previous rule violations, you were warned by me and each of the jointly-appointed officers that future violations would result in escalated accountability measures. However, you have continued to flagrantly abuse rules designated to protect yourself and your opponents from unnecessary risk."

    Burfict's history

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    Vontaze Burfict's season-long suspension for his helmet-to-helmet hit on Jack Doyle is the fourth league-imposed ban of the linebacker's career.

      YEAR GAMES
    PEDs 2018 4
    Illegal hit 2017 3
    Illegal hit 2016 3

    The 29-year-old Burfict received 13 suspensions and fines in seven seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals before signing with the Raiders as a free agent this offseason. Two of the suspensions were for illegal hits, totaling six games.

    This is Burfict's first season with the Raiders, and he was named a team captain. <------- really your team leader? The Raider way?

    WarriorsRpussiesW WarriorsRpussies wrote on last edited by
    #28

    @mjp28 said:

    And this little tidbit.  Is the penalty too harsh or not? Anyone surprised?

    The league said that he will be not be paid during the suspension, which covers the postseason as well. The league cited repeated violations of unnecessary roughness rules.

    NFL vice president of football operations Jon Runyan's wrote a letter to Burfict explaining the decision.

    "There were no mitigating circumstances on this play," it said. "Your contact was unnecessary, flagrant and should have been avoided. For your actions, you were penalized and disqualified from the game. Following each of your previous rule violations, you were warned by me and each of the jointly-appointed officers that future violations would result in escalated accountability measures. However, you have continued to flagrantly abuse rules designated to protect yourself and your opponents from unnecessary risk."

    Burfict's history

    15246.png&w=120&h=90&scale=crop&background=0xcccccc&transparent=true

    Vontaze Burfict's season-long suspension for his helmet-to-helmet hit on Jack Doyle is the fourth league-imposed ban of the linebacker's career.

      YEAR GAMES
    PEDs 2018 4
    Illegal hit 2017 3
    Illegal hit 2016 3

    The 29-year-old Burfict received 13 suspensions and fines in seven seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals before signing with the Raiders as a free agent this offseason. Two of the suspensions were for illegal hits, totaling six games.

    This is Burfict's first season with the Raiders, and he was named a team captain. <------- really your team leader? The Raider way?

    Shouldn't surprise you. They brought in a CTE lunatic in AB and then doubled down on known racist in Richard Incognito. The organization and culture there is pure trash.

  • I know this was brought up on here many years back, but how would any of you Dawgs feel if Dorsey brought him to the Land? I don't think you can count on the guy, he is a penalty waiting and a pos person. I don't want no thugs on our team. I a sure we mite have 1 or 2 now but if so they hide it well. V.B. is the type of person to drive by a car accident with people injured ad just laugh and not offer help. IMO he is the same as the Roid Monkey Harrison 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #29

    @medicineman said:

    I know this was brought up on here many years back, but how would any of you Dawgs feel if Dorsey brought him to the Land? I don't think you can count on the guy, he is a penalty waiting and a pos person. I don't want no thugs on our team. I a sure we mite have 1 or 2 now but if so they hide it well. V.B. is the type of person to drive by a car accident with people injured ad just laugh and not offer help. IMO he is the same as the Roid Monkey Harrison 

    Prior to this hit I might have been open to it under the proviso that he was told, "Any instance of purposeful targeting, and you're gone."

    Now? No way... he's shown cheap shots are "in his nature".

    I despised Harrison's style as much as anyone.... still remember his double KO game of Colt and Massaquoi... but the difference between Burfict and Harrison is that in most of Harrison's days head shots were legal except on a QB in the pocket. And if you remember his last days, when the new rules were emerging, James removed those shots from his repertoire.

    Bottom line.... by comparison Harrison was a model citizen.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #30

    Dear Mr. Suh, you're next.?

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #31

    When is the last time Suh acted up? 4 years ago? 5?

    It was back in his Detroit days, wasn't it?

  • When is the last time Suh acted up? 4 years ago? 5?

    It was back in his Detroit days, wasn't it?

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #32

    @tour2ma said:

    When is the last time Suh acted up? 4 years ago? 5?

    It was back in his Detroit days, wasn't it?

    Haven't seen him play for a while, so I can't say for sure. But he was in a kill 'em contest with Burfict for a while.

  • When is the last time Suh acted up? 4 years ago? 5?

    It was back in his Detroit days, wasn't it?

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #33

    @tour2ma said:

    When is the last time Suh acted up? 4 years ago? 5?

    It was back in his Detroit days, wasn't it?

    nope.

    https://clutchpoints.com/buccaneers-news-ndamukong-suh-fined-21056-for-roughing-browns-quarterback-baker-mayfield/

  • @tour2ma said:

    When is the last time Suh acted up? 4 years ago? 5?

    It was back in his Detroit days, wasn't it?

    nope.

    https://clutchpoints.com/buccaneers-news-ndamukong-suh-fined-21056-for-roughing-browns-quarterback-baker-mayfield/

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #34

    @calfoxwc said:

    nope

    $21k and change is barely a slap on the wrist. If "roughing the passer" is the standard, then Garrett must be one of the dirtiest players of 2019.

    The old Suh, the one that earned a rep that no doubt fed the fine, was this guy...

    • Excessive Facemask (ripped a helmet off... fortunately the head stayed put...)

    • Stepping on the leg of Aaron Rodgers (had to change stride to do it)

    • Throat-slash gesture against Tampa Bay ("one of these things is not like the others")

    • Kicking Texans QB Matt Schaub in the groin (the kick was G-o-o-o-o-o-o-d!)

    • Stomping on Evan Dietrich-Smith (the stomp heard round the world)

    I think that guy is gone.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #35

    except that "roughing" is now "landing on with your weight". When the Browns start always twisting away to not have their weight land on the qb, they will start calling "twisting the qb around from his stance" personal fouls...

    on the Browns and other teams that are not supposed to win and not make the NFL as much money as the huge market cities.

    except I saw it happen in the cincy-pukes game, and it wasn't called on pittsburg. nope. ignored.

    But true - the old Suh was a cheapshot rampage. He's a little bit more grown up now. Maybe he went for

    rage counseling....

  • except that "roughing" is now "landing on with your weight". When the Browns start always twisting away to not have their weight land on the qb, they will start calling "twisting the qb around from his stance" personal fouls...

    on the Browns and other teams that are not supposed to win and not make the NFL as much money as the huge market cities.

    except I saw it happen in the cincy-pukes game, and it wasn't called on pittsburg. nope. ignored.

    But true - the old Suh was a cheapshot rampage. He's a little bit more grown up now. Maybe he went for

    rage counseling....

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #36

    @calfoxwc said:

    Maybe he went for rage counseling....

    I don't think he had a choice but to...

    Sometimes it takes... sometimes (Burfict) it doesn't...

  • except that "roughing" is now "landing on with your weight". When the Browns start always twisting away to not have their weight land on the qb, they will start calling "twisting the qb around from his stance" personal fouls...

    on the Browns and other teams that are not supposed to win and not make the NFL as much money as the huge market cities.

    except I saw it happen in the cincy-pukes game, and it wasn't called on pittsburg. nope. ignored.

    But true - the old Suh was a cheapshot rampage. He's a little bit more grown up now. Maybe he went for

    rage counseling....

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #37

    @calfoxwc said:

    Maybe he went for rage counseling....

    Does the counseling make you better at it?  Hey maybe it works!

    (Or are some individuals just not going to be changed?)