Anyone Else Going to The San Fran game?
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That.....is a long story. LOL.
You are correct....Levis is in Santa Clara which is about 45 minutes from SF. Reality tho is that the Niners kinda belong to entire Bay Area and not just SF. SF is the most famous city, but it isn't the largest. It can't be. Its surrounded on 3 sides by water.
Santa Clara is a very small city, but its immediate neighbor is San Jose, which is the largest city by size and population in the Bay Area. Its also the capitol of the silicon valley. When the 49ers were in SF, a much larger % of their season ticket holders were from the South Bay than from SF. In addition, they really wanted that Tech Industry $$$$$, so boom, Levis Stadium. Add to that a 20 year battle with the city of SF, that's why they moved.
Anyone who comes to the game will probably notice its surrounded by the Great America Theme Park (closed on Gamedays), Santa Clara Convention Center, and a Golf course (which is about to be ripped up and turned into a like 6 billion dollar mall/restaurant complex including a Joe Montana restaurant right across the street from the stadium).
Pretty much everything else will be tech companies....Dell, Citrix, Marvell, etc.
That last part is important for this reason...get there early. 5:15 West Coast kickoff puts it right in rush hour. Thankfully, I work at one of those tech companies so I'll be walking. I can actually look out the window and see the stadium from here.
Anyone flying in, San Jose Airport is VERY close (so close that Levis is in the flight path and it partially dictated the maximum height of the stadium).
Good Luck gentlemen.
Thanks for the advice any good places to eat in the area doesn’t matter cuisine.
Thanks for the advice any good places to eat in the area doesn’t matter cuisine.
There WILL be once it gets built out, but nothing really close. There is a true hole in the wall (I mean like a house converted into a restaurant) called Maria Elenas (Mexican Food...and technically in Alviso, but very close) that's pretty good and popular. Food is really good. I actually ran into Jed York there once (49ers offices are right next to the stadium). If you check it out tho....I warned you. Hole in the Wall. LOL.
Everything else is just standard Togos, Taco Bell, Carls Jr, etc.
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Thanks for the advice any good places to eat in the area doesn’t matter cuisine.
There WILL be once it gets built out, but nothing really close. There is a true hole in the wall (I mean like a house converted into a restaurant) called Maria Elenas (Mexican Food...and technically in Alviso, but very close) that's pretty good and popular. Food is really good. I actually ran into Jed York there once (49ers offices are right next to the stadium). If you check it out tho....I warned you. Hole in the Wall. LOL.
Everything else is just standard Togos, Taco Bell, Carls Jr, etc.
There WILL be once it gets built out, but nothing really close. There is a true hole in the wall (I mean like a house converted into a restaurant) called Maria Elenas (Mexican Food) that's pretty good and popular. Actually ran into Jed York there once (49ers offices are right next to the stadium).
Everything else is just standard Togos, etc.
If any Clevelanders are making the trip be sure to try some CA Mexican food. I have had some of the best Mexican food in CA in places that were dirty as all.
Sounds like the 9ers are doing something similar to Jerry World in Dallas with the restaurants across from the stadium. I did lay over in Dallas last year and did the Jerry World tour. Wow- what a stadium. If/when the Browns travel to Dallas that’s my next road trip. They are tearing down a perfectly built baseball stadium across from Jerry World because it’s too hot. That would never happen in CA or Cleveland
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There WILL be once it gets built out, but nothing really close. There is a true hole in the wall (I mean like a house converted into a restaurant) called Maria Elenas (Mexican Food) that's pretty good and popular. Actually ran into Jed York there once (49ers offices are right next to the stadium).
Everything else is just standard Togos, etc.
If any Clevelanders are making the trip be sure to try some CA Mexican food. I have had some of the best Mexican food in CA in places that were dirty as all.
Sounds like the 9ers are doing something similar to Jerry World in Dallas with the restaurants across from the stadium. I did lay over in Dallas last year and did the Jerry World tour. Wow- what a stadium. If/when the Browns travel to Dallas that’s my next road trip. They are tearing down a perfectly built baseball stadium across from Jerry World because it’s too hot. That would never happen in CA or Cleveland
If any Clevelanders are making the trip be sure to try some CA Mexican food.
Sounds like the 9ers are doing something similar to Jerry World in Dallas with the restaurants across from the stadium. I did lay over in Dallas last year and did the Jerry World tour. Wow- what a stadium. If/when the Browns travel to Dallas that’s my next road trip. They are tearing down a perfectly built baseball stadium across from Jerry World because it’s too hot. That would never happen in CA or Cleveland
Kinda, but a difference....
1) Jerrys World was in a BIG open space in Texas. Levis was build in a reserve Parking Lot for Great America. Why does it matter? Space. They are restricted. The stadium is 20 feet from the street (Tasman). I drive past it every day. Its surrounded so hard to expand. They are bulldozing a golf course for this project.
2) The other project across the street is:
https://www.relatedsantaclara.com/
Essentially the project is designed to be a new downtown for Santa Clara.
3) I forgot Michael Minas.
Michael Minas is a Steakhouse/Grill that is actually attached to the stadium. Good food, but WAY overpriced. I mean WAY. Also pretty small so might be impossible to get in on a gameday.
4) I know Niner history probably doesn't mean much to ya, but the Museum is pretty cool too. Might also be closed on gamedays tho. They have "The Catch" ball, all 5 Lombardis, and a pretty cool hall of statues of 49er Hall of Famers that you can walk among.
Anyway, have a ball guys....just not too much in the game.
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I’ll be there heading up from San Diego.
So Sd is for San Diego BROWNS backer, nice. I didn't think you were from South Dakota. Enjoy the game!
So Sd is for San Diego BROWNS backer, nice. I didn't think you were from South Dakota. Enjoy the game!
Well....we lost one San Diego fan....MarkO...but we gained one to replace him. That O now stands for Orlando.
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That would be a cool road trip... too bad the 49ers play nowhere near the city they are named for though...
That.....is a long story. LOL.
You are correct....Levis is in Santa Clara which is about 45 minutes from SF. Reality tho is that the Niners kinda belong to entire Bay Area and not just SF. SF is the most famous city, but it isn't the largest. It can't be. Its surrounded on 3 sides by water.
Santa Clara is a very small city, but its immediate neighbor is San Jose, which is the largest city by size and population in the Bay Area. Its also the capitol of the silicon valley. When the 49ers were in SF, a much larger % of their season ticket holders were from the South Bay than from SF. In addition, they really wanted that Tech Industry $$$$$, so boom, Levis Stadium. Add to that a 20 year battle with the city of SF, that's why they moved.
Anyone who comes to the game will probably notice its surrounded by the Great America Theme Park (closed on Gamedays), Santa Clara Convention Center, and a Golf course (which is about to be ripped up and turned into a like 6 billion dollar mall/restaurant complex including a Joe Montana restaurant right across the street from the stadium).
Pretty much everything else will be tech companies....Dell, Citrix, Marvell, etc.
That last part is important for this reason...get there early. 5:15 West Coast kickoff puts it right in rush hour. Thankfully, I work at one of those tech companies so I'll be walking. I can actually look out the window and see the stadium from here.
Anyone flying in, San Jose Airport is VERY close (so close that Levis is in the flight path and it partially dictated the maximum height of the stadium).
Good Luck gentlemen.
That.....is a long story. LOL.
You are correct....Levis is in Santa Clara which is about 45 minutes from SF. Reality tho is that the Niners kinda belong to entire Bay Area and not just SF. SF is the most famous city, but it isn't the largest. It can't be. Its surrounded on 3 sides by water.
You don't count the Oakland Raiders? (and of course, you shouldn't...seeing that they abandoning the Bay Area...once again)
Santa Clara is a very small city,
It was like when we had the Cavaliers playing in Richfield....mostly farms around there. The Richfield Coliseum got the name "The Big House on the Prairie" because of it.
but its immediate neighbor is San Jose, which is the largest city by size and population in the Bay Area. Its also the capitol of the silicon valley. When the 49ers were in SF, a much larger % of their season ticket holders were from the South Bay than from SF. In addition, they really wanted that Tech Industry $$$$$, so boom, Levis Stadium. Add to that a 20 year battle with the city of SF, that's why they moved.
And the area around Candlestick looks like it has become a war zone. I went by there just last year....it look burned out, with drug dealers hanging around. It was not in a good spot in the end, I am sure.
Anyone who comes to the game will probably notice its surrounded by the Great America Theme Park (closed on Gamedays), Santa Clara Convention Center, and a Golf course (which is about to be ripped up and turned into a like 6 billion dollar mall/restaurant complex including a Joe Montana restaurant right across the street from the stadium).
Pretty much everything else will be tech companies....Dell, Citrix, Marvell, etc.
That last part is important for this reason...get there early. 5:15 West Coast kickoff puts it right in rush hour. Thankfully, I work at one of those tech companies so I'll be walking. I can actually look out the window and see the stadium from here.
Anyone flying in, San Jose Airport is VERY close (so close that Levis is in the flight path and it partially dictated the maximum height of the stadium).
Good Luck gentlemen.
So....money talked and bullshit walked?
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If any Clevelanders are making the trip be sure to try some CA Mexican food.
Sounds like the 9ers are doing something similar to Jerry World in Dallas with the restaurants across from the stadium. I did lay over in Dallas last year and did the Jerry World tour. Wow- what a stadium. If/when the Browns travel to Dallas that’s my next road trip. They are tearing down a perfectly built baseball stadium across from Jerry World because it’s too hot. That would never happen in CA or Cleveland
Kinda, but a difference....
1) Jerrys World was in a BIG open space in Texas. Levis was build in a reserve Parking Lot for Great America. Why does it matter? Space. They are restricted. The stadium is 20 feet from the street (Tasman). I drive past it every day. Its surrounded so hard to expand. They are bulldozing a golf course for this project.
2) The other project across the street is:
https://www.relatedsantaclara.com/
Essentially the project is designed to be a new downtown for Santa Clara.
3) I forgot Michael Minas.
Michael Minas is a Steakhouse/Grill that is actually attached to the stadium. Good food, but WAY overpriced. I mean WAY. Also pretty small so might be impossible to get in on a gameday.
4) I know Niner history probably doesn't mean much to ya, but the Museum is pretty cool too. Might also be closed on gamedays tho. They have "The Catch" ball, all 5 Lombardis, and a pretty cool hall of statues of 49er Hall of Famers that you can walk among.
Anyway, have a ball guys....just not too much in the game.
Kinda, but a difference....
1) Jerrys World was in a BIG open space in Texas. Levis was build in a reserve Parking Lot for Great America. Why does it matter? Space. They are restricted. The stadium is 20 feet from the street (Tasman). I drive past it every day. Its surrounded so hard to expand. They are bulldozing a golf course for this project.
2) The other project across the street is:
https://www.relatedsantaclara.com/
Essentially the project is designed to be a new downtown for Santa Clara.
3) I forgot Michael Minas.
Michael Minas is a Steakhouse/Grill that is actually attached to the stadium. Good food, but WAY overpriced. I mean WAY. Also pretty small so might be impossible to get in on a gameday.
4) I know Niner history probably doesn't mean much to ya, but the Museum is pretty cool too. Might also be closed on gamedays tho. They have "The Catch" ball, all 5 Lombardis, and a pretty cool hall of statues of 49er Hall of Famers that you can walk among.
Anyway, have a ball guys....just not too much in the game.
It means something to us. The 49ers and the Browns are the only two teams left that came over from the AAFC together. That merger also included both the AAFC Baltimore Colts, and the New York Yankees football team. Both of those folded eventually, however. Not sure why since both cities got another team within a decade. The AAFC Colts folded, and the league then formed a team called the Dallas Texans from the remnants thereof...which only lasted one year (and which ended up making the Akron Rubber Bowl its home field). That is the last NFL team to fold. But, again, within a year that Texans teams was basically converted into the "new" Baltimore Colts...which franchise still exists and plays in Indianapolis. But, I digress.
So...the two teams, Browns and 49ers DO have an historical connection.
Since this is the 100th anniversary of the NFL, and since they are supposedly honoring history...and since there were just the two mergers in the NFL's history: AAFC and AFL....this game should be dubbed the AAFC Bowl, or something. To honor that bit of history.
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That.....is a long story. LOL.
You are correct....Levis is in Santa Clara which is about 45 minutes from SF. Reality tho is that the Niners kinda belong to entire Bay Area and not just SF. SF is the most famous city, but it isn't the largest. It can't be. Its surrounded on 3 sides by water.
You don't count the Oakland Raiders? (and of course, you shouldn't...seeing that they abandoning the Bay Area...once again)
Santa Clara is a very small city,
It was like when we had the Cavaliers playing in Richfield....mostly farms around there. The Richfield Coliseum got the name "The Big House on the Prairie" because of it.
but its immediate neighbor is San Jose, which is the largest city by size and population in the Bay Area. Its also the capitol of the silicon valley. When the 49ers were in SF, a much larger % of their season ticket holders were from the South Bay than from SF. In addition, they really wanted that Tech Industry $$$$$, so boom, Levis Stadium. Add to that a 20 year battle with the city of SF, that's why they moved.
And the area around Candlestick looks like it has become a war zone. I went by there just last year....it look burned out, with drug dealers hanging around. It was not in a good spot in the end, I am sure.
Anyone who comes to the game will probably notice its surrounded by the Great America Theme Park (closed on Gamedays), Santa Clara Convention Center, and a Golf course (which is about to be ripped up and turned into a like 6 billion dollar mall/restaurant complex including a Joe Montana restaurant right across the street from the stadium).
Pretty much everything else will be tech companies....Dell, Citrix, Marvell, etc.
That last part is important for this reason...get there early. 5:15 West Coast kickoff puts it right in rush hour. Thankfully, I work at one of those tech companies so I'll be walking. I can actually look out the window and see the stadium from here.
Anyone flying in, San Jose Airport is VERY close (so close that Levis is in the flight path and it partially dictated the maximum height of the stadium).
Good Luck gentlemen.
So....money talked and bullshit walked?
That.....is a long story. LOL.
You are correct....Levis is in Santa Clara which is about 45 minutes from SF. Reality tho is that the Niners kinda belong to entire Bay Area and not just SF. SF is the most famous city, but it isn't the largest. It can't be. Its surrounded on 3 sides by water.
You don't count the Oakland Raiders? (and of course, you shouldn't...seeing that they abandoning the Bay Area...once again)
Santa Clara is a very small city,
It was like when we had the Cavaliers playing in Richfield....mostly farms around there. The Richfield Coliseum got the name "The Big House on the Prairie" because of it.
but its immediate neighbor is San Jose, which is the largest city by size and population in the Bay Area. Its also the capitol of the silicon valley. When the 49ers were in SF, a much larger % of their season ticket holders were from the South Bay than from SF. In addition, they really wanted that Tech Industry $$$$$, so boom, Levis Stadium. Add to that a 20 year battle with the city of SF, that's why they moved.
And the area around Candlestick looks like it has become a war zone. I went by there just last year....it look burned out, with drug dealers hanging around. It was not in a good spot in the end, I am sure.
Anyone who comes to the game will probably notice its surrounded by the Great America Theme Park (closed on Gamedays), Santa Clara Convention Center, and a Golf course (which is about to be ripped up and turned into a like 6 billion dollar mall/restaurant complex including a Joe Montana restaurant right across the street from the stadium).
Pretty much everything else will be tech companies....Dell, Citrix, Marvell, etc.
That last part is important for this reason...get there early. 5:15 West Coast kickoff puts it right in rush hour. Thankfully, I work at one of those tech companies so I'll be walking. I can actually look out the window and see the stadium from here.
Anyone flying in, San Jose Airport is VERY close (so close that Levis is in the flight path and it partially dictated the maximum height of the stadium).
Good Luck gentlemen.
So....money talked and bullshit walked?
1) Raiders are East Bay, across the Bay from SF. That's why the symbol for the Warriors is a bridge...the Bay Bridge. It bridges SF and Oakland. Oakland has always been kinda second fiddle.....Giants over As, Niners over Raiders. It doesn't help that the Raiders have now moved twice, but I'll say this, Raider fans are loyal. There are just more 49er fans.
2) Kinda, but Santa Clara isn't a prairie town. Its all Tech. Google, Apple, EBay....all in the area. Its small in size, but its right in the middle of everything.
3) Candlestick hadn't become a warzone....it was always a warzone. The land itself that it was built on was a boondoggle. How the city got the land is a story in itself. Candlestick point is notoriously and consistently the coldest area in the entire Bay Area. It was built as a baseball stadium, and not a very good one. Then it was expanded and enclosed. It was really NEVER a good building. I loved the place myself, but it wasn't because of its charms...it was the history.
It was located at Hunter Point tho, which is the roughest neighborhood in the whole of SF. BAD Neighborhood. Levis nothing like that.
4) Yup.
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There WILL be once it gets built out, but nothing really close. There is a true hole in the wall (I mean like a house converted into a restaurant) called Maria Elenas (Mexican Food) that's pretty good and popular. Actually ran into Jed York there once (49ers offices are right next to the stadium).
Everything else is just standard Togos, etc.
If any Clevelanders are making the trip be sure to try some CA Mexican food. I have had some of the best Mexican food in CA in places that were dirty as all.
Sounds like the 9ers are doing something similar to Jerry World in Dallas with the restaurants across from the stadium. I did lay over in Dallas last year and did the Jerry World tour. Wow- what a stadium. If/when the Browns travel to Dallas that’s my next road trip. They are tearing down a perfectly built baseball stadium across from Jerry World because it’s too hot. That would never happen in CA or Cleveland
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The best burrito l ever had was in the Mission district 20 plus years ago. Damn that was one good burrito...
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If/when the Browns travel to Dallas that’s my next road trip.
See you there.
5 Lombardis
What are these??? Old cars?
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That.....is a long story. LOL.
You are correct....Levis is in Santa Clara which is about 45 minutes from SF. Reality tho is that the Niners kinda belong to entire Bay Area and not just SF. SF is the most famous city, but it isn't the largest. It can't be. Its surrounded on 3 sides by water.
You don't count the Oakland Raiders? (and of course, you shouldn't...seeing that they abandoning the Bay Area...once again)
Santa Clara is a very small city,
It was like when we had the Cavaliers playing in Richfield....mostly farms around there. The Richfield Coliseum got the name "The Big House on the Prairie" because of it.
but its immediate neighbor is San Jose, which is the largest city by size and population in the Bay Area. Its also the capitol of the silicon valley. When the 49ers were in SF, a much larger % of their season ticket holders were from the South Bay than from SF. In addition, they really wanted that Tech Industry $$$$$, so boom, Levis Stadium. Add to that a 20 year battle with the city of SF, that's why they moved.
And the area around Candlestick looks like it has become a war zone. I went by there just last year....it look burned out, with drug dealers hanging around. It was not in a good spot in the end, I am sure.
Anyone who comes to the game will probably notice its surrounded by the Great America Theme Park (closed on Gamedays), Santa Clara Convention Center, and a Golf course (which is about to be ripped up and turned into a like 6 billion dollar mall/restaurant complex including a Joe Montana restaurant right across the street from the stadium).
Pretty much everything else will be tech companies....Dell, Citrix, Marvell, etc.
That last part is important for this reason...get there early. 5:15 West Coast kickoff puts it right in rush hour. Thankfully, I work at one of those tech companies so I'll be walking. I can actually look out the window and see the stadium from here.
Anyone flying in, San Jose Airport is VERY close (so close that Levis is in the flight path and it partially dictated the maximum height of the stadium).
Good Luck gentlemen.
So....money talked and bullshit walked?
1) Raiders are East Bay, across the Bay from SF. That's why the symbol for the Warriors is a bridge...the Bay Bridge. It bridges SF and Oakland. Oakland has always been kinda second fiddle.....Giants over As, Niners over Raiders. It doesn't help that the Raiders have now moved twice, but I'll say this, Raider fans are loyal. There are just more 49er fans.
2) Kinda, but Santa Clara isn't a prairie town. Its all Tech. Google, Apple, EBay....all in the area. Its small in size, but its right in the middle of everything.
3) Candlestick hadn't become a warzone....it was always a warzone. The land itself that it was built on was a boondoggle. How the city got the land is a story in itself. Candlestick point is notoriously and consistently the coldest area in the entire Bay Area. It was built as a baseball stadium, and not a very good one. Then it was expanded and enclosed. It was really NEVER a good building. I loved the place myself, but it wasn't because of its charms...it was the history.
It was located at Hunter Point tho, which is the roughest neighborhood in the whole of SF. BAD Neighborhood. Levis nothing like that.
4) Yup.
1) Raiders are East Bay, across the Bay from SF.
Well...that is STILL the Bay Area, no?
That's why the symbol for the Warriors is a bridge...the Bay Bridge. It bridges SF and Oakland. Oakland has always been kinda second fiddle.....Giants over As, Niners over Raiders.
I don't think the Raiders were second fiddle to the Niners, until the arrival of Joe Montana anyway.
It doesn't help that the Raiders have now moved twice, but I'll say this, Raider fans are loyal. There are just more 49er fans. Maybe now....not sure it was always that way...at least in the 60s/70s. But, sure I don't really know....I did not live there. I just know that in those particular years you heard squadoosh about the Niners and all about the Raiders....until, like I said, Joe Cool arrived.
2) Kinda, but Santa Clara isn't a prairie town. Its all Tech. Google, Apple, EBay....all in the area. Its small in size, but its right in the middle of everything.
By that I just meant that it is significantly away from the core city center that the team is named for. I know that Stanford is to the north, and San Jose to the south ...and is, as you say....stuck in the middle...with you apparently.
3) Candlestick hadn't become a warzone....it was always a warzone. The land itself that it was built on was a boondoggle. How the city got the land is a story in itself. Candlestick point is notoriously and consistently the coldest area in the entire Bay Area. It was built as a baseball stadium, and not a very good one. Then it was expanded and enclosed. It was really NEVER a good building. I loved the place myself, but it wasn't because of its charms...it was the history.
It was located at Hunter Point tho, which is the roughest neighborhood in the whole of SF. BAD Neighborhood. Levis nothing like that.
Very well....you certainly would have more knowledge of the history of the area than I would. We only went by there because...well, it was where Candlestick Park was, and because it was basically on the way to the airport where we were going to catch a redeye home.
4) Yup.
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If/when the Browns travel to Dallas that’s my next road trip.
See you there.
That, by the way...is just next year:
2020 Regular Season Home Away Houston Texans Tennessee Titans Indianapolis Colts New York Giants Philadelphia Eagles Jacksonville Jaguars Washington Redskins Dallas Cowboys AFC West Same Place Finisher AFC East Same Place Finisher Baltimore Ravens (Div.) Baltimore Ravens (Div.) Cincinnati Bengals (Div.) Cincinnati Bengals (Div.) Pittsburgh Steelers (Div.) Pittsburgh Steelers (Div.) -
So Sd is for San Diego BROWNS backer, nice. I didn't think you were from South Dakota. Enjoy the game!
Actually Grew up in Youngstown OH.
Very excited about the Game. I’ve only been to a few Browns road games actually first Browns game outside of San Diego. Although Jack Murph May as well been Browns second they always had huge followings there.
Actually Grew up in Youngstown OH.
Very excited about the Game. I’ve only been to a few Browns road games actually first Browns game outside of San Diego. Although Jack Murph May as well been Browns second they always had huge followings there.
Oh I graduated from YSU and way back worked at the US Steel Ohio Works in Youngstown. There are Browns Backers wherever you go in this country.
GO BROWNS and GO YSU Saturday at Northern Iowa!
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Actually Grew up in Youngstown OH.
Very excited about the Game. I’ve only been to a few Browns road games actually first Browns game outside of San Diego. Although Jack Murph May as well been Browns second they always had huge followings there.
Oh I graduated from YSU and way back worked at the US Steel Ohio Works in Youngstown. There are Browns Backers wherever you go in this country.
GO BROWNS and GO YSU Saturday at Northern Iowa!
Oh I graduated from YSU and way back worked at the US Steel Ohio Works in Youngstown. There are Browns Backers wherever you go in this country.
GO BROWNS and GO YSU Saturday at Northern Iowa!
Small world my Dad graduated way way back in the day at YSU played Football for them too.
There is a really good club here too I’ve just fallen In love with my tv and leather recliner on Sundays lol
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1) Raiders are East Bay, across the Bay from SF.
Well...that is STILL the Bay Area, no?
That's why the symbol for the Warriors is a bridge...the Bay Bridge. It bridges SF and Oakland. Oakland has always been kinda second fiddle.....Giants over As, Niners over Raiders.
I don't think the Raiders were second fiddle to the Niners, until the arrival of Joe Montana anyway.
It doesn't help that the Raiders have now moved twice, but I'll say this, Raider fans are loyal. There are just more 49er fans. Maybe now....not sure it was always that way...at least in the 60s/70s. But, sure I don't really know....I did not live there. I just know that in those particular years you heard squadoosh about the Niners and all about the Raiders....until, like I said, Joe Cool arrived.
2) Kinda, but Santa Clara isn't a prairie town. Its all Tech. Google, Apple, EBay....all in the area. Its small in size, but its right in the middle of everything.
By that I just meant that it is significantly away from the core city center that the team is named for. I know that Stanford is to the north, and San Jose to the south ...and is, as you say....stuck in the middle...with you apparently.
3) Candlestick hadn't become a warzone....it was always a warzone. The land itself that it was built on was a boondoggle. How the city got the land is a story in itself. Candlestick point is notoriously and consistently the coldest area in the entire Bay Area. It was built as a baseball stadium, and not a very good one. Then it was expanded and enclosed. It was really NEVER a good building. I loved the place myself, but it wasn't because of its charms...it was the history.
It was located at Hunter Point tho, which is the roughest neighborhood in the whole of SF. BAD Neighborhood. Levis nothing like that.
Very well....you certainly would have more knowledge of the history of the area than I would. We only went by there because...well, it was where Candlestick Park was, and because it was basically on the way to the airport where we were going to catch a redeye home.
4) Yup.
1) Raiders are East Bay, across the Bay from SF.
Well...that is STILL the Bay Area, no?
That's why the symbol for the Warriors is a bridge...the Bay Bridge. It bridges SF and Oakland. Oakland has always been kinda second fiddle.....Giants over As, Niners over Raiders.
I don't think the Raiders were second fiddle to the Niners, until the arrival of Joe Montana anyway.
It doesn't help that the Raiders have now moved twice, but I'll say this, Raider fans are loyal. There are just more 49er fans. Maybe now....not sure it was always that way...at least in the 60s/70s. But, sure I don't really know....I did not live there. I just know that in those particular years you heard squadoosh about the Niners and all about the Raiders....until, like I said, Joe Cool arrived.
2) Kinda, but Santa Clara isn't a prairie town. Its all Tech. Google, Apple, EBay....all in the area. Its small in size, but its right in the middle of everything.
By that I just meant that it is significantly away from the core city center that the team is named for. I know that Stanford is to the north, and San Jose to the south ...and is, as you say....stuck in the middle...with you apparently.
3) Candlestick hadn't become a warzone....it was always a warzone. The land itself that it was built on was a boondoggle. How the city got the land is a story in itself. Candlestick point is notoriously and consistently the coldest area in the entire Bay Area. It was built as a baseball stadium, and not a very good one. Then it was expanded and enclosed. It was really NEVER a good building. I loved the place myself, but it wasn't because of its charms...it was the history.
It was located at Hunter Point tho, which is the roughest neighborhood in the whole of SF. BAD Neighborhood. Levis nothing like that.
Very well....you certainly would have more knowledge of the history of the area than I would. We only went by there because...well, it was where Candlestick Park was, and because it was basically on the way to the airport where we were going to catch a redeye home.
4) Yup.
1) Yes, but East Bay is a bit different in terms of fandom. They love their As and Raiders, but there are fewer of them. Oakland isn't really the center of anything anymore. Its a reason they are losing their teams. (Warriors moved back to SF, Raiders to Vegas).
Oh no....absolutely correct. Nobody was a Niner fan in the 70's. It wasn't until Walsh/Montana etc that it flipped and it really never flipped back. These days, even when the Niners are bad they are drawing twice the TV audience of the Raiders. Again tho...I will never question Raider fan loyalty. Those guy will never switch. In baseball its even worse. The As are playing MUCH better than the Giants, but most in the Bay hardly notice.
2) Stanford is actually up the Peninsula in Palo Alto. It's between SF and SJ, so south of SF. Yes, Santa Clara is away's away from downtown SF....about 45 minutes without traffic.
In the below map, Palo Alto would be Stanford and Santa Clara is just a bit Northwest from San Jose.
3) Yeah...Hunters Point is/was bad. The sad thing tho is there used to be this moment driving up 101 where you'd round a bend and you could see Candlestick jutting out over the water. It was awesome. Its now completely gone, razed to the ground. Its kinda sad actually.
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If/when the Browns travel to Dallas that’s my next road trip.
See you there.
That, by the way...is just next year:
2020 Regular Season Home Away Houston Texans Tennessee Titans Indianapolis Colts New York Giants Philadelphia Eagles Jacksonville Jaguars Washington Redskins Dallas Cowboys AFC West Same Place Finisher AFC East Same Place Finisher Baltimore Ravens (Div.) Baltimore Ravens (Div.) Cincinnati Bengals (Div.) Cincinnati Bengals (Div.) Pittsburgh Steelers (Div.) Pittsburgh Steelers (Div.) If/when the Browns travel to Dallas that’s my next road trip.
See you there.
That, by the way...is just next year:
2020 Regular Season Home Away Houston Texans Tennessee Titans Indianapolis Colts New York Giants Philadelphia Eagles Jacksonville Jaguars Washington Redskins Dallas Cowboys AFC West Same Place Finisher AFC East Same Place Finisher Baltimore Ravens (Div.) Baltimore Ravens (Div.) Cincinnati Bengals (Div.) Cincinnati Bengals (Div.) Pittsburgh Steelers (Div.) Pittsburgh Steelers (Div.) I’m hoping Schedule makers don’t make that Dallas game near the Holidays- otherwise I’m there. I hear It’s a tough ticket and speaking of Browns backers big presence in Texas
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Jerry World visit here. We went everywhere. They had three locker rooms Home, Away and Cheerleaders.
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Jerry World visit here. We went everywhere. They had three locker rooms Home, Away and Cheerleaders.
Jerry World visit here. We went everywhere. They had three locker rooms Home, Away and Cheerleaders.
That place is just nuts. I like Levis, but Jerrys World is just crazy.Amazing what you can do with unlimited space and a nearly unlimited budget. LOL.
BTW, the Video boards at Levis (2 of them) are actually wider than the ones at Jerrys World, but not as tall. They are above either endzone. This is taken from south endzone. If you look at where the sun falls...that was why I suggested NOT sitting on the visitor sideline. LOL. The shadow of the Suite Tower covers the home sideline and fans.
As for locker rooms....odd Trivia. Levi's was actually built with 4 locker rooms. Home, Away, Cheerleaders.....and RAIDERS. You read that right. It was planned with a second home locker room for use by the Raiders if they eventually became a tenant, but they would never let themselves be a tenant of the 49ers so ego drove them to Vegas. It isn't a 4th locker room now because that ship has sailed and they used for something else, but I always thought that was funny.
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1) Raiders are East Bay, across the Bay from SF.
Well...that is STILL the Bay Area, no?
That's why the symbol for the Warriors is a bridge...the Bay Bridge. It bridges SF and Oakland. Oakland has always been kinda second fiddle.....Giants over As, Niners over Raiders.
I don't think the Raiders were second fiddle to the Niners, until the arrival of Joe Montana anyway.
It doesn't help that the Raiders have now moved twice, but I'll say this, Raider fans are loyal. There are just more 49er fans. Maybe now....not sure it was always that way...at least in the 60s/70s. But, sure I don't really know....I did not live there. I just know that in those particular years you heard squadoosh about the Niners and all about the Raiders....until, like I said, Joe Cool arrived.
2) Kinda, but Santa Clara isn't a prairie town. Its all Tech. Google, Apple, EBay....all in the area. Its small in size, but its right in the middle of everything.
By that I just meant that it is significantly away from the core city center that the team is named for. I know that Stanford is to the north, and San Jose to the south ...and is, as you say....stuck in the middle...with you apparently.
3) Candlestick hadn't become a warzone....it was always a warzone. The land itself that it was built on was a boondoggle. How the city got the land is a story in itself. Candlestick point is notoriously and consistently the coldest area in the entire Bay Area. It was built as a baseball stadium, and not a very good one. Then it was expanded and enclosed. It was really NEVER a good building. I loved the place myself, but it wasn't because of its charms...it was the history.
It was located at Hunter Point tho, which is the roughest neighborhood in the whole of SF. BAD Neighborhood. Levis nothing like that.
Very well....you certainly would have more knowledge of the history of the area than I would. We only went by there because...well, it was where Candlestick Park was, and because it was basically on the way to the airport where we were going to catch a redeye home.
4) Yup.
1) Yes, but East Bay is a bit different in terms of fandom. They love their As and Raiders, but there are fewer of them. Oakland isn't really the center of anything anymore. Its a reason they are losing their teams. (Warriors moved back to SF, Raiders to Vegas).
Oh no....absolutely correct. Nobody was a Niner fan in the 70's. It wasn't until Walsh/Montana etc that it flipped and it really never flipped back. These days, even when the Niners are bad they are drawing twice the TV audience of the Raiders. Again tho...I will never question Raider fan loyalty. Those guy will never switch. In baseball its even worse. The As are playing MUCH better than the Giants, but most in the Bay hardly notice.
2) Stanford is actually up the Peninsula in Palo Alto. It's between SF and SJ, so south of SF. Yes, Santa Clara is away's away from downtown SF....about 45 minutes without traffic.
In the below map, Palo Alto would be Stanford and Santa Clara is just a bit Northwest from San Jose.
3) Yeah...Hunters Point is/was bad. The sad thing tho is there used to be this moment driving up 101 where you'd round a bend and you could see Candlestick jutting out over the water. It was awesome. Its now completely gone, razed to the ground. Its kinda sad actually.
1) Yes, but East Bay is a bit different in terms of fandom. They love their As and Raiders, but there are fewer of them. Oakland isn't really the center of anything anymore. Its a reason they are losing their teams. (Warriors moved back to SF, Raiders to Vegas).
Well, Gertrude Stein did say about Oakland: There is no there, there. But the East Bay may get a bad wrap (mostly from "West Bay-ers...not from the rest of America" Just about a year and a half ago, I spent some time in the East Bay...and Napa (which is more geared toward the East Bay from my perception). Plenty to see and do there...and I did those. Did not venture over to SFO until, as I said, the day we were ready to leave and fly home...then did a quick tour around SF for a day.
Oh no....absolutely correct. Nobody was a Niner fan in the 70's. It wasn't until Walsh/Montana etc that it flipped and it really never flipped back. These days, even when the Niners are bad they are drawing twice the TV audience of the Raiders. Again tho...I will never question Raider fan loyalty. Those guy will never switch. In baseball its even worse. The As are playing MUCH better than the Giants, but most in the Bay hardly notice.
Well...the Giants HAVE won 3 World Series in like the last 10 years. That tends to bring the bandwagon down the street. If the As were to win like that, the situation could be reversed. As I see it, there is the East Bay, and the West Bay.....and whomever is winning grabs the loyalties of the South and North Bay.
2) Stanford is actually up the Peninsula in Palo Alto. It's between SF and SJ, so south of SF. Yes, Santa Clara is away's away from downtown SF....about 45 minutes without traffic.
That is what I said, Clowns to the left (Stanford), Jokers to the right (SJ)....and Santa Clara is stuck in the middle. Just hope it does not get its ears cut off.
In the below map, Palo Alto would be Stanford and Santa Clara is just a bit Northwest from San Jose.
3) Yeah...Hunters Point is/was bad. The sad thing tho is there used to be this moment driving up 101 where you'd round a bend and you could see Candlestick jutting out over the water. It was awesome. Its now completely gone, razed to the ground. Its kinda sad actually.
I never saw that vista. The only other time I was in SFO, we stayed in the city mostly (except for a venture over to....you guessed it...Oakland). That time we came in and out of the San Jose Airport.... When we landed we headed south toward Carmel/Monterray. When we cam up to SFO we came up along the coast by Half Moon Bay. And when we returned, we came down from the East Bay across the I think "Dunbarton Bridge" to the south...to go back to the SJ airport. So, I never physically laid eyes on Candlestick Park....until last year...only to see where it was razed.
For my future travels, I do have Bucket list items that would take me back to the Carmel area to then do the Big Sur Highway, which except for a short northern portion I have not been on. And also some way north from Point Arena up to like the Redwoods. Plus I have an inland trek that would take me up to around Lassen and Shasta and Lava Beds, and on up into Oregon...to Crater Lake.
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1) Yes, but East Bay is a bit different in terms of fandom. They love their As and Raiders, but there are fewer of them. Oakland isn't really the center of anything anymore. Its a reason they are losing their teams. (Warriors moved back to SF, Raiders to Vegas).
Well, Gertrude Stein did say about Oakland: There is no there, there. But the East Bay may get a bad wrap (mostly from "West Bay-ers...not from the rest of America" Just about a year and a half ago, I spent some time in the East Bay...and Napa (which is more geared toward the East Bay from my perception). Plenty to see and do there...and I did those. Did not venture over to SFO until, as I said, the day we were ready to leave and fly home...then did a quick tour around SF for a day.
Oh no....absolutely correct. Nobody was a Niner fan in the 70's. It wasn't until Walsh/Montana etc that it flipped and it really never flipped back. These days, even when the Niners are bad they are drawing twice the TV audience of the Raiders. Again tho...I will never question Raider fan loyalty. Those guy will never switch. In baseball its even worse. The As are playing MUCH better than the Giants, but most in the Bay hardly notice.
Well...the Giants HAVE won 3 World Series in like the last 10 years. That tends to bring the bandwagon down the street. If the As were to win like that, the situation could be reversed. As I see it, there is the East Bay, and the West Bay.....and whomever is winning grabs the loyalties of the South and North Bay.
2) Stanford is actually up the Peninsula in Palo Alto. It's between SF and SJ, so south of SF. Yes, Santa Clara is away's away from downtown SF....about 45 minutes without traffic.
That is what I said, Clowns to the left (Stanford), Jokers to the right (SJ)....and Santa Clara is stuck in the middle. Just hope it does not get its ears cut off.
In the below map, Palo Alto would be Stanford and Santa Clara is just a bit Northwest from San Jose.
3) Yeah...Hunters Point is/was bad. The sad thing tho is there used to be this moment driving up 101 where you'd round a bend and you could see Candlestick jutting out over the water. It was awesome. Its now completely gone, razed to the ground. Its kinda sad actually.
I never saw that vista. The only other time I was in SFO, we stayed in the city mostly (except for a venture over to....you guessed it...Oakland). That time we came in and out of the San Jose Airport.... When we landed we headed south toward Carmel/Monterray. When we cam up to SFO we came up along the coast by Half Moon Bay. And when we returned, we came down from the East Bay across the I think "Dunbarton Bridge" to the south...to go back to the SJ airport. So, I never physically laid eyes on Candlestick Park....until last year...only to see where it was razed.
For my future travels, I do have Bucket list items that would take me back to the Carmel area to then do the Big Sur Highway, which except for a short northern portion I have not been on. And also some way north from Point Arena up to like the Redwoods. Plus I have an inland trek that would take me up to around Lassen and Shasta and Lava Beds, and on up into Oregon...to Crater Lake.
Well, Gertrude Stein did say about Oakland: There is no there, there. But the East Bay may get a bad wrap (mostly from "West Bay-ers...not from the rest of America" Just about a year and a half ago, I spent some time in the East Bay...and Napa (which is more geared toward the East Bay from my perception). Plenty to see and do there...and I did those. Did not venture over to SFO until, as I said, the day we were ready to leave and fly home...then did a quick tour around SF for a day.
Napa is a different animal. Wine country, north of the East Bay. Beautiful country up there.
I can't lie...I'm a "West-Bayer" as you stated. LOL.
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