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  • @tour2ma said:

    Joe Staley is a quality LT. Tomlinson (LG) is a good OG and Person (RG) is even better. Richburg is a capable Center. Only their RT, McGlinchey, is a liability and he will be flanked by Kittle much of the day.

    Individually they have some talent, but the most common complaint I see echo'd by their fans is the Oline play.

    PFF tends to share this assessment as well.     Haven't gone to watch them at all myself though.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Individually they have some talent, but the most common complaint I see echo'd by their fans is the Oline play.

    PFF tends to share this assessment as well.     Haven't gone to watch them at all myself though.

    I mean its a difficult thing really. At issue is that they have offensive linemen that fit what they do. Is it the Dallas Cowboy line? Not close.

    They are all athletes who can move in that ZBS system, but are they gonna just drop anchor and pass protect for 50-60 passes? No. Garoppolo making fast decisions, getting the ball out quick, and heavy play action has really helped them. I'd expect to see a lot more of that.

    I wouldn't expect them to go deep more than 2 or 3 times AT MOST and focus on play action passes on quick developing plays and a lot of running the ball, even if it doesn't look like its working early on. They won't just drop him back and let him be a target for Garrett.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Individually they have some talent, but the most common complaint I see echo'd by their fans is the Oline play.

    PFF tends to share this assessment as well.     Haven't gone to watch them at all myself though.

    I mean its a difficult thing really. At issue is that they have offensive linemen that fit what they do. Is it the Dallas Cowboy line? Not close.

    They are all athletes who can move in that ZBS system, but are they gonna just drop anchor and pass protect for 50-60 passes? No. Garoppolo making fast decisions, getting the ball out quick, and heavy play action has really helped them. I'd expect to see a lot more of that.

    I wouldn't expect them to go deep more than 2 or 3 times AT MOST and focus on play action passes on quick developing plays and a lot of running the ball, even if it doesn't look like its working early on. They won't just drop him back and let him be a target for Garrett.

    @marvin49 said:

    They won't just drop him back and let him be a target for Garrett.

    Awwww.... you guys are no fun...

    @marvin49 said:

    That makes a lot of sense.

    I have my moments, but now I've used up October already.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Joe Staley is a quality LT.

    believe he's out with a broken leg? rookie 6th rounder playing in his place...

    @choco said:

    believe he's out with a broken leg? rookie 6th rounder playing in his place...

    @marvin49 said:

    Yes....hairline fracture of the fibula. He'll be back in a month.

    Justin Skule replaced him last week and stayed off the stat sheet (which is good), but Bud Dupree ain't Myles Garrett.

    I was looking at SF's "Official" Depth Chart... I should have known better. Teams are terrible at maintaining those.

    Skule never got on my radar. Was just reading his Combine profile. These parts caught my eye...

    • Works with elevated pad level and below-average leverage
    • Gives ground against modest bulrush attempts

    Miles just might have himself a game Monday nite.

  • @choco said:

    believe he's out with a broken leg? rookie 6th rounder playing in his place...

    @marvin49 said:

    Yes....hairline fracture of the fibula. He'll be back in a month.

    Justin Skule replaced him last week and stayed off the stat sheet (which is good), but Bud Dupree ain't Myles Garrett.

    I was looking at SF's "Official" Depth Chart... I should have known better. Teams are terrible at maintaining those.

    Skule never got on my radar. Was just reading his Combine profile. These parts caught my eye...

    • Works with elevated pad level and below-average leverage
    • Gives ground against modest bulrush attempts

    Miles just might have himself a game Monday nite.

    @tour2ma said:

    I was looking at SF's "Official" Depth Chart... I should have known better. Teams are terrible at maintaining those.

    Skule never got on my radar. Was just reading his Combine profile. These parts caught my eye...

    • Works with elevated pad level and below-average leverage
    • Gives ground against modest bulrush attempts

    Miles just might have himself a game Monday nite.

    ...well there is a reason he was a 6th round pick. LOL. He's a lunch pail "ain't always pretty" type guy with tons of experience in the SEC.

    As I've said before, they'll protect him, but he is my biggest concern. He's played one week so far and it was better than I'd anticipated, but Garrett is a different animal.

  • @tour2ma said:

    I was looking at SF's "Official" Depth Chart... I should have known better. Teams are terrible at maintaining those.

    Skule never got on my radar. Was just reading his Combine profile. These parts caught my eye...

    • Works with elevated pad level and below-average leverage
    • Gives ground against modest bulrush attempts

    Miles just might have himself a game Monday nite.

    ...well there is a reason he was a 6th round pick. LOL. He's a lunch pail "ain't always pretty" type guy with tons of experience in the SEC.

    As I've said before, they'll protect him, but he is my biggest concern. He's played one week so far and it was better than I'd anticipated, but Garrett is a different animal.

    @marvin49 said:

    ...well there is a reason he was a 6th round pick. LOL. He's a lunch pail "ain't always pretty" type guy with tons of experience in the SEC.

    As I've said before, they'll protect him, but he is my biggest concern. He's played one week so far and it was better than I'd anticipated, but Garrett is a different animal.

    He's a long way from the SEC Monday night, homie.  

  • @marvin49 said:

    ...well there is a reason he was a 6th round pick. LOL. He's a lunch pail "ain't always pretty" type guy with tons of experience in the SEC.

    As I've said before, they'll protect him, but he is my biggest concern. He's played one week so far and it was better than I'd anticipated, but Garrett is a different animal.

    He's a long way from the SEC Monday night, homie.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    He's a long way from the SEC Monday night, homie.  

    Well Aware.  🙂

    Just sayin, if there was a Conference I'd want him to have experience in, that's the one I'd want.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    He's a long way from the SEC Monday night, homie.  

    Well Aware.  🙂

    Just sayin, if there was a Conference I'd want him to have experience in, that's the one I'd want.

    @marvin49 said:

    Well Aware.  🙂

    Just sayin, if there was a Conference I'd want him to have experience in, that's the one I'd want.

    🙄

  • @marvin49 said:

    Well Aware.  🙂

    Just sayin, if there was a Conference I'd want him to have experience in, that's the one I'd want.

    🙄

    @tiamat63 said:

    🙄

    BTW, love the name.

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  • @marvin49 said:

    ...well there is a reason he was a 6th round pick. LOL. He's a lunch pail "ain't always pretty" type guy with tons of experience in the SEC.

    As I've said before, they'll protect him, but he is my biggest concern. He's played one week so far and it was better than I'd anticipated, but Garrett is a different animal.

    He's a long way from the SEC Monday night, homie.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    He's a long way from the SEC Monday night, homie.  

    But He’s got the Big Ten Bosa schooling him at practice 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    🙄

    BTW, love the name.

    latest?cb=20111006013311

    @marvin49 said:

    BTW, love the name.

    Funny enough, had no idea the original mythological reference for Dragon when I started using it as a handle for things.... 1999ish. 

  • @icecube said:

    Considering how the Browns dismantled the Ravens (dropped 45 on their @ss), how bad do they crush the 9ers?

    - Keep in mind, coaches finally realized you need to rush the ball to win. After successful rush plays, it forces the opposing D to play more honest and that opens up the passing lanes, and keeps the LBs on their heels. It means everything. Now that the Browns know this, we should see continued prolific points from now on. 

    - 9ers are giving up 18 points per game vs. Browns 22.8. That stat's meaningless. SF played TB, Cinci and Pgh - 3 of the weakest teams in the NFL. Browns' D is way better. 

     - Baker now understands he has to be amped up every game, not just show up. 

    - Considering they just knocked out the Ravens' teeth for 45, Browns should score over 50 on the 9ers. This game might not even be close.  

    You're forgetting one thing- the Browns have historically played like crap on the West Coast. Let's hope that changes....

    @hoorta said:

    You're forgetting one thing- the Browns have historically played like crap on the West Coast. Let's hope that changes....

    I'm not sure how many eastern teams don't. 

  • @steelersfan412 said:

    Hey, hope they do, and you get to smile even larger than a capitol D  😁

    I'm actually a Niner fan. Just think the OP was kinda funny.

    All good tho.  😁  Yer boys looked better last night, particularly that Pass Rush. Nice to get that 1st win.

    @marvin49 said:

    I'm actually a Niner fan. Just think the OP was kinda funny.

    All good tho.  😁  Yer boys looked better last night, particularly that Pass Rush. Nice to get that 1st win.

    Thanks for bringing actual good football dialogue to support your 9'ers... tho a 9'ers fan..we don't see much of that on this board from our opponents ?..I see a close one that the most experience coach usually pulls out..Well unless your teams coached by Shawn Payton 😉   carry on, we got all the way till Monday night 😴 to be bored

  • @marvin49 said:

    I'm actually a Niner fan. Just think the OP was kinda funny.

    All good tho.  😁  Yer boys looked better last night, particularly that Pass Rush. Nice to get that 1st win.

    Thanks for bringing actual good football dialogue to support your 9'ers... tho a 9'ers fan..we don't see much of that on this board from our opponents ?..I see a close one that the most experience coach usually pulls out..Well unless your teams coached by Shawn Payton 😉   carry on, we got all the way till Monday night 😴 to be bored

    @gumby73 said:

    Thanks for bringing actual good football dialogue to support your 9'ers... tho a 9'ers fan..we don't see much of that on this board from our opponents ?

    +1

  • @marvin49 said:

    I'm actually a Niner fan. Just think the OP was kinda funny.

    All good tho.  😁  Yer boys looked better last night, particularly that Pass Rush. Nice to get that 1st win.

    Thanks for bringing actual good football dialogue to support your 9'ers... tho a 9'ers fan..we don't see much of that on this board from our opponents ?..I see a close one that the most experience coach usually pulls out..Well unless your teams coached by Shawn Payton 😉   carry on, we got all the way till Monday night 😴 to be bored

    @gumby73 said:

    Thanks for bringing actual good football dialogue to support your 9'ers... tho a 9'ers fan..we don't see much of that on this board from our opponents ?..I see a close one that the most experience coach usually pulls out..Well unless your teams coached by Shawn Payton 😉   carry on, we got all the way till Monday night 😴 to be bored

    Thnx.

    I enjoy talking to opposing fan bases. Not smack talk, but real talk. If I'm on a Niner board its a bit of an echo chamber. I enjoy that as well, but nice to see things from the other side. I actually spend quite a bit of time on a Seahawks board. LOL.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Thanks for bringing actual good football dialogue to support your 9'ers... tho a 9'ers fan..we don't see much of that on this board from our opponents ?..I see a close one that the most experience coach usually pulls out..Well unless your teams coached by Shawn Payton 😉   carry on, we got all the way till Monday night 😴 to be bored

    Thnx.

    I enjoy talking to opposing fan bases. Not smack talk, but real talk. If I'm on a Niner board its a bit of an echo chamber. I enjoy that as well, but nice to see things from the other side. I actually spend quite a bit of time on a Seahawks board. LOL.

    @marvin49 said:

    Thnx.

    I enjoy talking to opposing fan bases. Not smack talk, but real talk. If I'm on a Niner board its a bit of an echo chamber. I enjoy that as well, but nice to see things from the other side. I actually spend quite a bit of time on a Seahawks board. LOL.

    I used to do that on the old ESPN boards in baseball.  You can get some interesting vibes and information. I also thought baseball was more " civilized" than football which can get more rowdy......to paraphrase Hank Jr.

  • @tour2ma said:

    I was looking at SF's "Official" Depth Chart... I should have known better. Teams are terrible at maintaining those.

    Skule never got on my radar. Was just reading his Combine profile. These parts caught my eye...

    • Works with elevated pad level and below-average leverage
    • Gives ground against modest bulrush attempts

    Miles just might have himself a game Monday nite.

    ...well there is a reason he was a 6th round pick. LOL. He's a lunch pail "ain't always pretty" type guy with tons of experience in the SEC.

    As I've said before, they'll protect him, but he is my biggest concern. He's played one week so far and it was better than I'd anticipated, but Garrett is a different animal.

    @marvin49 said:

    ...well there is a reason he was a 6th round pick. LOL. He's a lunch pail "ain't always pretty" type guy with tons of experience in the SEC.

    As I've said before, they'll protect him, but he is my biggest concern. He's played one week so far and it was better than I'd anticipated, but Garrett is a different animal.

    Myles will eat him for lunch. 

  • @marvin49 said:

    ...well there is a reason he was a 6th round pick. LOL. He's a lunch pail "ain't always pretty" type guy with tons of experience in the SEC.

    As I've said before, they'll protect him, but he is my biggest concern. He's played one week so far and it was better than I'd anticipated, but Garrett is a different animal.

    Myles will eat him for lunch. 

    @icecube said:

    Myles will eat him for lunch dinner.

    FIFY...

  • The lines 3.5 SF. But who have they beat? Bucs, before they got their sea legs with new systems/coaches, TB is better now. Cinci, who is 0-4, and the Steelers who's QB was starting for the 1st time in the NF (and just barely beat them, 24-20). 

    Now the Browns found their groove, with Chubb tearing it up. SF has to worry about him, big time, opening the passing lanes all over. If they hyper-focus on OBJ, there will be open guys elsewhere. If they don't double OBJ, he will rip them apart - pick your poison. I see a Browns' W.

  • who have we beat? jets and rats...and the rats were paper tigers. SF is the first team we will face with legitimate talent across the board. 

    the story here is Wilks vs lil shanny.  thats the chess match to watch. i doubt Myles even has a sack this game, cause shanny isn't going anywhere near him with a rookie LT. Larry O should have a big game tho

  • who have we beat? jets and rats...and the rats were paper tigers. SF is the first team we will face with legitimate talent across the board. 

    the story here is Wilks vs lil shanny.  thats the chess match to watch. i doubt Myles even has a sack this game, cause shanny isn't going anywhere near him with a rookie LT. Larry O should have a big game tho

    @choco said:

    who have we beat? jets and rats...and the rats were paper tigers. SF is the first team we will face with legitimate talent across the board. 

    the story here is Wilks vs lil shanny.  thats the chess match to watch. i doubt Myles even has a sack this game, cause shanny isn't going anywhere near him with a rookie LT. Larry O should have a big game tho

    Garrett will hunt down Jimmy G like he is a lion chasing a wildebeest.