How bad do the Browns destroy 49ers?
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I’ve pretty much looked at it as team records and league records. For some teams you could probably add city as a category
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The browns and 49ers they played 29 times Browns won 18 in the regular season to nine losses. the Browns won one postseason game those are the facts that’s the history. Can’t change history unless you think the Nazis won World War II
And how many of those records aren't counted in the history of the NFL? Because those stats are pre 1950. IIRC some professional games were played before the founding of what was to become the NFL- I suppose by your logic those should be counted too.
And how many of those records aren't counted in the history of the NFL? Because those stats are pre 1950. IIRC some professional games were played before the founding of what was to become the NFL- I suppose by your logic those should be counted too.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/
https://www.profootballhof.com/teams/cleveland-browns/team-facts/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_seasons
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Actually everyone counts them except for the NFL.com look at any source at all.
And NFL is the only one that really matters Gipper. Stop arguing over something that happened 70 years ago. Please....
And NFL is the only one that really matters Gipper. Stop arguing over something that happened 70 years ago. Please....
Yes...stop arguing. Stop denying facts, truth, history. Stop being Steeler fan-ish.
If you want to deny facts/history....then you should not be asking people to deny the truth.
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The browns and 49ers they played 29 times Browns won 18 in the regular season to nine losses. the Browns won one postseason game those are the facts that’s the history. Can’t change history unless you think the Nazis won World War II
And how many of those records aren't counted in the history of the NFL? Because those stats are pre 1950. IIRC some professional games were played before the founding of what was to become the NFL- I suppose by your logic those should be counted too.
And how many of those records aren't counted in the history of the NFL? Because those stats are pre 1950. IIRC some professional games were played before the founding of what was to become the NFL- I suppose by your logic those should be counted too.
I'm a big BROWNS fan born in 1950 and I never count the long defunct AAFC anything along with the AAFL, XFL, UFL, AFL and many others.
So....you both seem to be saying: The Cleveland Browns did not exist. But they did, they do.
I mean, that is like saying that there really were NO Presidents of the United States before there were actually 50 states. Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln....they all never really existed.
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And NFL is the only one that really matters Gipper. Stop arguing over something that happened 70 years ago. Please....
Yes...stop arguing. Stop denying facts, truth, history. Stop being Steeler fan-ish.
If you want to deny facts/history....then you should not be asking people to deny the truth.
Yes...stop arguing. Stop denying facts, truth, history. Stop being Steeler fan-ish.
If you want to deny facts/history....then you should not be asking people to deny the truth.
FACT: the AAFC is not or ever was part of the NFL.
EOM.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
And NFL is the only one that really matters Gipper. Stop arguing over something that happened 70 years ago. Please....
Yes...stop arguing. Stop denying facts, truth, history. Stop being Steeler fan-ish.
If you want to deny facts/history....then you should not be asking people to deny the truth.
Yes...stop arguing. Stop denying facts, truth, history. Stop being Steeler fan-ish.
If you want to deny facts/history....then you should not be asking people to deny the truth.
Again- you're the only one who wants to argue this SEMANTIC crap- SO JUST STOP!!!!
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Yes...stop arguing. Stop denying facts, truth, history. Stop being Steeler fan-ish.
If you want to deny facts/history....then you should not be asking people to deny the truth.
FACT: the AAFC is not or ever was part of the NFL.
EOM.
FACT: the AAFC is not or ever was part of the NFL.
EOM.
Actually, they merged with the NFL....just like the AFL did. 4 teams came over, but both the original Baltimore Colts, and the "New York Yanks" ended up folding later.
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Tm W L W-L% PF PA PD MoV SoS SRS OSRS DSRS American Cleveland Browns* 10 2 .833 310 144 166 13.8 1.7 15.6 5.8 9.7 New York Giants* 10 2 .833 268 150 118 9.8 2.7 12.6 1.4 11.2 Pittsburgh Steelers 6 6 .500 180 195 -15 -1.3 4.5 3.2 -4.8 8.0 Philadelphia Eagles 6 6 .500 254 141 113 9.4 3.6 13.0 0.3 12.8 Chicago Cardinals 5 7 .417 233 287 -54 -4.5 5.7 1.2 2.9 -1.7 Washington Redskins 3 9 .250 232 326 -94 -7.8 2.8 -5.0 -0.1 -4.8 National Los Angeles Rams* 9 3 .750 466 309 157 13.1 -5.3 7.8 13.3 -5.5 Chicago Bears* 9 3 .750 279 207 72 6.0 -3.7 2.3 -4.5 6.8 New York Yanks 7 5 .583 366 367 -1 -0.1 -3.5 -3.6 5.4 -8.9 Detroit Lions 6 6 .500 321 285 36 3.0 -4.6 -1.6 0.1 -1.7 Green Bay Packers 3 9 .250 244 406 -162 -13.5 -2.8 -16.3 -5.9 -10.4 San Francisco 49ers 3 9 .250 213 300 -87 -7.3 -2.2 -9.5 -8.9 -0.6 Baltimore Colts 1 11 .083 213 462 -249 -20.8 1.0 -19.7 -4.9 -14.8 -
Yes...stop arguing. Stop denying facts, truth, history. Stop being Steeler fan-ish.
If you want to deny facts/history....then you should not be asking people to deny the truth.
Again- you're the only one who wants to argue this SEMANTIC crap- SO JUST STOP!!!!
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Yes...stop arguing. Stop denying facts, truth, history. Stop being Steeler fan-ish.
If you want to deny facts/history....then you should not be asking people to deny the truth.
Again- you're the only one who wants to argue this SEMANTIC crap- SO JUST STOP!!!!
Again- you're the only one who wants to argue this SEMANTIC crap- SO JUST STOP!!!!
One of the tell-tale signs of dementia is irritability....
Gip has been acting like he has sand in his vagina for quite a while.
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One of the tell-tale signs of dementia is irritability....
Gip has been acting like he has sand in his vagina for quite a while.
If by "sand" you mean "facts"
Cleveland Browns lead series, 19-9
18-9 regular season, 1-0 postseasonPostseason games noted in bold.
28 Games
I will agree with your position when you can get the HOF, PFR, Elias etc. etc. to agree with you to delete history.
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It’s easy enough to see Gips point. All you gotta do is look at the HOF. They recognize us... The Browns with 8 championships..... and yes. Zero super balls
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SO JUST STOP!!!!
OK...I will just let the facts stand on their face.
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Three teams were invited into the NFL from the AAFC - the Cleveland Browns, San Francisco 49ers and the Baltimore Colts. Not four.
The Browns and 49ers have played 19 NFL games. The first Browns vs 49ers NFL game occurred in 1950, the 20th will be tomorrow night.
Those Browns vs 49ers games between 1946-1949 were AAFC regular and post season games.
This is not as hard as you are making it.
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It’s easy enough to see Gips point. All you gotta do is look at the HOF. They recognize us... The Browns with 8 championships..... and yes. Zero super balls
It’s easy enough to see Gips point. All you gotta do is look at the HOF. They recognize us... The Browns with 8 championships..... and yes. Zero super balls
Yeah just like the MLB HOF recognized the women's baseball league during WWII. ?.....
Time to end this farce of a subject or delete it permanently.
Another explanation is that unlike the NFL-AFL agreement, the NFL-AAFC agreement was not a merger between equals. Only three of the seven AAFC teams were admitted to the NFL. There was no interleague playoff in December 1949. "American" swiftly disappeared from the enlarged league's name. The AFL, on the other hand, was able to force the NFL to admit all of its teams and to play an interleague championship game on a neutral field.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame does recognize AAFC statistics.
EOM.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
It’s easy enough to see Gips point. All you gotta do is look at the HOF. They recognize us... The Browns with 8 championships..... and yes. Zero super balls
Yeah just like the MLB HOF recognized the women's baseball league during WWII. ?.....
Time to end this farce of a subject or delete it permanently.
Another explanation is that unlike the NFL-AFL agreement, the NFL-AAFC agreement was not a merger between equals. Only three of the seven AAFC teams were admitted to the NFL. There was no interleague playoff in December 1949. "American" swiftly disappeared from the enlarged league's name. The AFL, on the other hand, was able to force the NFL to admit all of its teams and to play an interleague championship game on a neutral field.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame does recognize AAFC statistics.
EOM.
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Yes, the Pro Football Hall of Fame does recognize AAFC stats, because the HOF is not specifically a NFL entity. It covers all professional football, which of course the AAFC was.
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Three teams were invited into the NFL from the AAFC - the Cleveland Browns, San Francisco 49ers and the Baltimore Colts. Not four.
The Browns and 49ers have played 19 NFL games. The first Browns vs 49ers NFL game occurred in 1950, the 20th will be tomorrow night.
Those Browns vs 49ers games between 1946-1949 were AAFC regular and post season games.
This is not as hard as you are making it.
Three teams were invited into the NFL from the AAFC - the Cleveland Browns, San Francisco 49ers and the Baltimore Colts.
The Browns and 49ers have played 19 NFL games. The first Browns vs 49ers NFL game occurred in 1950, the 20th will be tomorrow night.
Those Browns vs 49ers games between 1946-1949 were AAFC regular and post season games.
This is not as hard as you are making it.
You are right. It is not as hard as it seems. Then why are you getting everything wrong. Like I said, the 49ers/Browns matchup are as posted. They stand on their face.
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It’s easy enough to see Gips point. All you gotta do is look at the HOF. They recognize us... The Browns with 8 championships..... and yes. Zero super balls
Yeah just like the MLB HOF recognized the women's baseball league during WWII. ?.....
Time to end this farce of a subject or delete it permanently.
Another explanation is that unlike the NFL-AFL agreement, the NFL-AAFC agreement was not a merger between equals. Only three of the seven AAFC teams were admitted to the NFL. There was no interleague playoff in December 1949. "American" swiftly disappeared from the enlarged league's name. The AFL, on the other hand, was able to force the NFL to admit all of its teams and to play an interleague championship game on a neutral field.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame does recognize AAFC statistics.
EOM.
Yeah just like the MLB HOF recognized the women's baseball league during WWII. ?.....
Time to end this farce of a subject or delete it permanently.
Another explanation is that unlike the NFL-AFL agreement, the NFL-AAFC agreement was not a merger between equals. Only three of the seven AAFC teams were admitted to the NFL. There was no interleague playoff in December 1949. "American" swiftly disappeared from the enlarged league's name. The AFL, on the other hand, was able to force the NFL to admit all of its teams and to play an interleague championship game on a neutral field.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame does recognize AAFC statistics.
EOM.
The facts stand on their face.
(but you are right...it was not a merger of equals. NO NFL team was equal to the Browns.....who won the title their first season as a participant with the NFL after the merger...and were in 6 consecutive title games thereafter.. They had no equal....until they matched up vs. the Lions.
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Yes, the Pro Football Hall of Fame does recognize AAFC stats, because the HOF is not specifically a NFL entity. It covers all professional football, which of course the AAFC was.
Yes, the Pro Football Hall of Fame does recognize AAFC stats, because the HOF is not specifically a NFL entity. It covers all professional football, which of course the AAFC was.
Maybe you can break that down so everybody here can understand it? ( this is so stupid trying to converse with a baby, I might do something I've never done and use the ignore option )
...... Change baby to outright troll, generally they get banned.
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Three teams were invited into the NFL from the AAFC - the Cleveland Browns, San Francisco 49ers and the Baltimore Colts.
The Browns and 49ers have played 19 NFL games. The first Browns vs 49ers NFL game occurred in 1950, the 20th will be tomorrow night.
Those Browns vs 49ers games between 1946-1949 were AAFC regular and post season games.
This is not as hard as you are making it.
You are right. It is not as hard as it seems. Then why are you getting everything wrong. Like I said, the 49ers/Browns matchup are as posted. They stand on their face.
You are right. It is not as hard as it seems. Then why are you getting everything wrong. Like I said, the 49ers/Browns matchup are as posted. They stand on their face.
I can literally picture you, sooner than later, screaming down the halls of a nursing home: "CLEVELAND HAS WON 13 FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS! THE BROWNS HAVE WON 8 CHAMPIONSHIPS! WHY WON'T ANYONE LISTEN TO ME! WHY WON'T SOMEONE CHANGE MY DIAPER SO I CAN TELL YOU MORE STUPID USELESS TRIVIA THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT?"
The facts stand on their face.
(but you are right...it was not a merger of equals. NO NFL team was equal to the Browns.....who won the title their first season as a participant with the NFL after the merger...and were in 6 consecutive title games thereafter.. They had no equal....until they matched up vs. the Lions.
The Los Angeles Rams beat the Cleveland Browns in the 1951 NFL Championship.
Which meant at that moment, the Rams were 1-1 vs the Browns in NFL Title Games.
1-1 = equal.
As much as this means to you, you just aren't very good at this.
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