How bad do the Browns destroy 49ers?
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We have to have one of these games against 49s,Seahawks, or Patriots. Not looking good, but you never know. Biggest concern is Baker Mayfield and why he can't complete passes, especially in the red zone. Yeah Calloway dropped that ball, but it was a crappy throw. You have OBJ, what's the problem? Jesus.
Yeah Calloway dropped that ball, but it was a crappy throw.
Sometimes you cannot 'lead' the receiver with a pass because of the position of a defender. Callaway has to CATCH the ball...like a professional receiver.
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Something about players addressing their HEAD coach as "Freddie" doesn't come off as tight, disciplined and buttoned up. I wonder if any New England players refer to their coach as "Bill". More likely Coach or Coach Belicheck.
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All these weapons..and a coach who doesnt know what to do with them. We are set up to win now...not flounder like fish out of water. Our team needs a better coach. Freddie wasnt ready. we should have kept williams.
All these weapons..and a coach who doesnt know what to do with them. We are set up to win now...not flounder like fish out of water. Our team needs a better coach. Freddie wasnt ready. we should have kept williams.
Please stop with the Williams stuff.... That guy is awful. His defenses are a joke.
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Yeah Calloway dropped that ball, but it was a crappy throw.
Sometimes you cannot 'lead' the receiver with a pass because of the position of a defender. Callaway has to CATCH the ball...like a professional receiver.
Sometimes you cannot 'lead' the receiver with a pass because of the position of a defender. Callaway has to CATCH the ball...like a professional receiver.
No, you're right, and I know you're right, but it wasn't a great throw. I think I'm more pissed about the throw to Harris. It looked like OBJ was open for a moment, and Seal was definitely open. Just about every team with an elite WR gets them the ball, especially in the end zone. So wtf is the problem? Not throw it to him in the red zone against the Rams? Same thing last night. I don't get it.
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Lord I hope you are right!
Owe you an apology man for thinking the Browns should actually win a game they're supposed to win. Shanahan obviously had this game circled and handed it to us because Freddie was fricking clueless. Not predicting any more games this season with Freddie in charge because a hallmark of a bad coach is inability to get consistent performances from his players and put them in the best position to win. Passing to Callaway in the Red Zone when there's Landry and Beckham? Scheme ways to get them open coach. Plus asking Callaway to switch from X to Z receiver after returning from suspension? Way to go coach. Asking Pharaoh Brown to block Sosa? Even I wouldn't draw that up. We may still make the playoffs due to a weak schedule post bye but don't fool yourself that we'll win a game there.
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I think you got the title of this thread reversed...lol. The Browns suck, and you guys are the only fanbase in the entire league that bought into all the talk. You're the Browns...a joke. Always have been, always will be. There's nothing about your team that scares anybody. Mayfield is overrated, and flat out bad. No matter what kind of talent you all picked up, none of it matters if your organization doesn't know how to win. You didn't even belong on the same field as the niners last night. But that's ok, keep the hype going. It keeps the rest of the fans around the league entertained.
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I think you got the title of this thread reversed...lol. The Browns suck, and you guys are the only fanbase in the entire league that bought into all the talk. You're the Browns...a joke. Always have been, always will be. There's nothing about your team that scares anybody. Mayfield is overrated, and flat out bad. No matter what kind of talent you all picked up, none of it matters if your organization doesn't know how to win. You didn't even belong on the same field as the niners last night. But that's ok, keep the hype going. It keeps the rest of the fans around the league entertained.
I think you got the title of this thread reversed...lol. The Browns suck, and you guys are the only fanbase in the entire league that bought into all the talk. You're the Browns...a joke. Always have been, always will be. There's nothing about your team that scares anybody. Mayfield is overrated, and flat out bad. No matter what kind of talent you all picked up, none of it matters if your organization doesn't know how to win. You didn't even belong on the same field as the niners last night. But that's ok, keep the hype going. It keeps the rest of the fans around the league entertained.
I'm not one of the guys who was saying how great this team is, I had realistic expectations.
But didn't this team that "sucks" beat your team (by screen name). So what does that say about them?
Dolphins, Cardinals, Steelers is REALLY impressive
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09/29/2019 Cleveland Browns 40 @ Baltimore Ravens 25 W -
Lord I hope you are right!
Owe you an apology man for thinking the Browns should actually win a game they're supposed to win. Shanahan obviously had this game circled and handed it to us because Freddie was fricking clueless. Not predicting any more games this season with Freddie in charge because a hallmark of a bad coach is inability to get consistent performances from his players and put them in the best position to win. Passing to Callaway in the Red Zone when there's Landry and Beckham? Scheme ways to get them open coach. Plus asking Callaway to switch from X to Z receiver after returning from suspension? Way to go coach. Asking Pharaoh Brown to block Sosa? Even I wouldn't draw that up. We may still make the playoffs due to a weak schedule post bye but don't fool yourself that we'll win a game there.
Owe you an apology man for thinking the Browns should actually win a game they're supposed to win. Shanahan obviously had this game circled and handed it to us because Freddie was fricking clueless. Not predicting any more games this season with Freddie in charge because a hallmark of a bad coach is inability to get consistent performances from his players and put them in the best position to win. Passing to Callaway in the Red Zone when there's Landry and Beckham? Scheme ways to get them open coach. Plus asking Callaway to switch from X to Z receiver after returning from suspension? Way to go coach. Asking Pharaoh Brown to block Sosa? Even I wouldn't draw that up. We may still make the playoffs due to a weak schedule post bye but don't fool yourself that we'll win a game there.
Definitely no apology needed., and I promise I'm not trying to sound like a jaded douche bag. I'm just frustrated. I've never in my adult like looked forward to this team like I did this year, and it seemed to make sense. Our young QB set records last year, we basically had all the major returning parts coming back, and we added some big names. We should be better, or at the very least, the same, right? Well, as of right now, that's not the case.
Look, this doesn't mean that we can't get BETTER as a team, but it's going to get potentially worse before it gets better. I said in one of my lengthy posts that I didn't think our defense was quite as good as we hoped, and the 49's game would come down to our offense if we hoped to win. Well, let's just say that didn't happen. The 49's offense definitely scared me, and I figured they score 27 or so on us, but I really thought we had a chance to score 30, especially after last week's performance. What I don't understand is why Baker is playing so poorly. Yes, his OL let him down on multiple occasions. I saw probowler Bitonio getting knocked on his ass multiple times, but like you said, why in the world would we have Pharoh Brown lined up with Bosa? Why can't WE implement the same style of passing as the 49's do? We sacked Garoppolo one time when I was watching, and the only reason we got to him was because he held onto the ball. Why the heck can't we do more 3 step drops and quick passes? Isn't that how we had so much success last year? And where the heck is the big play?
Even during the dark times, we hardly lost 31-3, or maybe my brain is simply blocking it out. I don't remember Baker looking this lost last year, and when he did, he always fought back late and played better. We got our butts kicked by San Diego, but Baker put together a few drives. We stunk against the Texans, but Baker had a terrific second half. I don't see why it's so difficult to get talented receivers the ball, and when OBJ is open, Baker either misses him high, or doesn't seem him. We're 2-3 and far from a lost cause, but it certainly FEELS worse than that. Somehow Seattle comes to town with 10 days of rest, which is bullcrap. We HAVE to find a way to win either that game or the Patriots, and it's not looking good. I will say there's a part of me that believes we're going to win the Seahawks game, and Baker will return to form. I'm not sure they're quite as good as advertised, and we're going to be out for blood.
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The niners look like a superbowl team, with superbowl style coaching.
It is what it is. The Browns will learn a LOT from this last debacle.
Just a terrible matchup. The Browns matched up with the ratskunks just fine.
They played their huge emotional win game last week, I think they just got outcoached, out personeled sp? vs the niners.
whatever.
They will bounce back, and go to the superbowl.
someday.
dammit.
lol.
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I think you got the title of this thread reversed...lol. The Browns suck, and you guys are the only fanbase in the entire league that bought into all the talk. You're the Browns...a joke. Always have been, always will be. There's nothing about your team that scares anybody. Mayfield is overrated, and flat out bad. No matter what kind of talent you all picked up, none of it matters if your organization doesn't know how to win. You didn't even belong on the same field as the niners last night. But that's ok, keep the hype going. It keeps the rest of the fans around the league entertained.
I'm not one of the guys who was saying how great this team is, I had realistic expectations.
But didn't this team that "sucks" beat your team (by screen name). So what does that say about them?
Dolphins, Cardinals, Steelers is REALLY impressive
I'm not one of the guys who was saying how great this team is, I had realistic expectations.
But didn't this team that "sucks" beat your team (by screen name). So what does that say about them?
Dolphins, Cardinals, Steelers is REALLY impressive
Yep, and I said that in another post...the Browns came in and played a very good game against us, and executed well...But it's going to take a lot more than one good game to make anybody around the league take notice. You're the Browns, the Cleveland Browns...the joke of the league. The team that turns any good players bad. That right there is a talent though..turn winners into losers just by joining the team. And there's a difference between Baltimore and Cleveland: we have a winning organization, so even though we have issues on our team that needs correcting, we recognize that, and will correct them. You are Cleveland, a team that has always had a losing mindset. So you will keep doing the same things over and over and expect things to get better, but the fact remains, the team is made of losers. You can't change that. So THAT'S really impressive.
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Owe you an apology man for thinking the Browns should actually win a game they're supposed to win. Shanahan obviously had this game circled and handed it to us because Freddie was fricking clueless. Not predicting any more games this season with Freddie in charge because a hallmark of a bad coach is inability to get consistent performances from his players and put them in the best position to win. Passing to Callaway in the Red Zone when there's Landry and Beckham? Scheme ways to get them open coach. Plus asking Callaway to switch from X to Z receiver after returning from suspension? Way to go coach. Asking Pharaoh Brown to block Sosa? Even I wouldn't draw that up. We may still make the playoffs due to a weak schedule post bye but don't fool yourself that we'll win a game there.
Definitely no apology needed., and I promise I'm not trying to sound like a jaded douche bag. I'm just frustrated. I've never in my adult like looked forward to this team like I did this year, and it seemed to make sense. Our young QB set records last year, we basically had all the major returning parts coming back, and we added some big names. We should be better, or at the very least, the same, right? Well, as of right now, that's not the case.
Look, this doesn't mean that we can't get BETTER as a team, but it's going to get potentially worse before it gets better. I said in one of my lengthy posts that I didn't think our defense was quite as good as we hoped, and the 49's game would come down to our offense if we hoped to win. Well, let's just say that didn't happen. The 49's offense definitely scared me, and I figured they score 27 or so on us, but I really thought we had a chance to score 30, especially after last week's performance. What I don't understand is why Baker is playing so poorly. Yes, his OL let him down on multiple occasions. I saw probowler Bitonio getting knocked on his ass multiple times, but like you said, why in the world would we have Pharoh Brown lined up with Bosa? Why can't WE implement the same style of passing as the 49's do? We sacked Garoppolo one time when I was watching, and the only reason we got to him was because he held onto the ball. Why the heck can't we do more 3 step drops and quick passes? Isn't that how we had so much success last year? And where the heck is the big play?
Even during the dark times, we hardly lost 31-3, or maybe my brain is simply blocking it out. I don't remember Baker looking this lost last year, and when he did, he always fought back late and played better. We got our butts kicked by San Diego, but Baker put together a few drives. We stunk against the Texans, but Baker had a terrific second half. I don't see why it's so difficult to get talented receivers the ball, and when OBJ is open, Baker either misses him high, or doesn't seem him. We're 2-3 and far from a lost cause, but it certainly FEELS worse than that. Somehow Seattle comes to town with 10 days of rest, which is bullcrap. We HAVE to find a way to win either that game or the Patriots, and it's not looking good. I will say there's a part of me that believes we're going to win the Seahawks game, and Baker will return to form. I'm not sure they're quite as good as advertised, and we're going to be out for blood.
Definitely no apology needed., and I promise I'm not trying to sound like a jaded douche bag. I'm just frustrated. I've never in my adult like looked forward to this team like I did this year, and it seemed to make sense. Our young QB set records last year, we basically had all the major returning parts coming back, and we added some big names. We should be better, or at the very least, the same, right? Well, as of right now, that's not the case.
Look, this doesn't mean that we can't get BETTER as a team, but it's going to get potentially worse before it gets better. I said in one of my lengthy posts that I didn't think our defense was quite as good as we hoped, and the 49's game would come down to our offense if we hoped to win. Well, let's just say that didn't happen. The 49's offense definitely scared me, and I figured they score 27 or so on us, but I really thought we had a chance to score 30, especially after last week's performance. What I don't understand is why Baker is playing so poorly. Yes, his OL let him down on multiple occasions. I saw probowler Bitonio getting knocked on his ass multiple times, but like you said, why in the world would we have Pharoh Brown lined up with Bosa? Why can't WE implement the same style of passing as the 49's do? We sacked Garoppolo one time when I was watching, and the only reason we got to him was because he held onto the ball. Why the heck can't we do more 3 step drops and quick passes? Isn't that how we had so much success last year? And where the heck is the big play?
Even during the dark times, we hardly lost 31-3, or maybe my brain is simply blocking it out. I don't remember Baker looking this lost last year, and when he did, he always fought back late and played better. We got our butts kicked by San Diego, but Baker put together a few drives. We stunk against the Texans, but Baker had a terrific second half. I don't see why it's so difficult to get talented receivers the ball, and when OBJ is open, Baker either misses him high, or doesn't seem him. We're 2-3 and far from a lost cause, but it certainly FEELS worse than that. Somehow Seattle comes to town with 10 days of rest, which is bullcrap. We HAVE to find a way to win either that game or the Patriots, and it's not looking good. I will say there's a part of me that believes we're going to win the Seahawks game, and Baker will return to form. I'm not sure they're quite as good as advertised, and we're going to be out for blood.
In the historic 0-16 season we were only blown out twice in the latter half of the season with much less talent. Hate to see this and I thought Kitchens hire made sense at the time but I don't envisage long term success with Kitchens at the helm. Because of the schedule we may have a 10-6 season like in 2006 but flame out next year.
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I'm not one of the guys who was saying how great this team is, I had realistic expectations.
But didn't this team that "sucks" beat your team (by screen name). So what does that say about them?
Dolphins, Cardinals, Steelers is REALLY impressive
Yep, and I said that in another post...the Browns came in and played a very good game against us, and executed well...But it's going to take a lot more than one good game to make anybody around the league take notice. You're the Browns, the Cleveland Browns...the joke of the league. The team that turns any good players bad. That right there is a talent though..turn winners into losers just by joining the team. And there's a difference between Baltimore and Cleveland: we have a winning organization, so even though we have issues on our team that needs correcting, we recognize that, and will correct them. You are Cleveland, a team that has always had a losing mindset. So you will keep doing the same things over and over and expect things to get better, but the fact remains, the team is made of losers. You can't change that. So THAT'S really impressive.
Yep, and I said that in another post...the Browns came in and played a very good game against us, and executed well...But it's going to take a lot more than one good game to make anybody around the league take notice. You're the Browns, the Cleveland Browns...the joke of the league. The team that turns any good players bad. That right there is a talent though..turn winners into losers just by joining the team. And there's a difference between Baltimore and Cleveland: we have a winning organization, so even though we have issues on our team that needs correcting, we recognize that, and will correct them. You are Cleveland, a team that has always had a losing mindset. So you will keep doing the same things over and over and expect things to get better, but the fact remains, the team is made of losers. You can't change that. So THAT'S really impressive.
Thank you for your insight Mr Newsome.
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I'm not one of the guys who was saying how great this team is, I had realistic expectations.
But didn't this team that "sucks" beat your team (by screen name). So what does that say about them?
Dolphins, Cardinals, Steelers is REALLY impressive
Yep, and I said that in another post...the Browns came in and played a very good game against us, and executed well...But it's going to take a lot more than one good game to make anybody around the league take notice. You're the Browns, the Cleveland Browns...the joke of the league. The team that turns any good players bad. That right there is a talent though..turn winners into losers just by joining the team. And there's a difference between Baltimore and Cleveland: we have a winning organization, so even though we have issues on our team that needs correcting, we recognize that, and will correct them. You are Cleveland, a team that has always had a losing mindset. So you will keep doing the same things over and over and expect things to get better, but the fact remains, the team is made of losers. You can't change that. So THAT'S really impressive.
Yep, and I said that in another post...the Browns came in and played a very good game against us, and executed well...But it's going to take a lot more than one good game to make anybody around the league take notice. You're the Browns, the Cleveland Browns...the joke of the league. The team that turns any good players bad. That right there is a talent though..turn winners into losers just by joining the team. And there's a difference between Baltimore and Cleveland: we have a winning organization, so even though we have issues on our team that needs correcting, we recognize that, and will correct them. You are Cleveland, a team that has always had a losing mindset. So you will keep doing the same things over and over and expect things to get better, but the fact remains, the team is made of losers. You can't change that. So THAT'S really impressive.
You obviously missed the point.
You wanted to come on just to say how bad the Browns are, yet they put it on your team.
Cleveland got beat by a good team. Whether they will turn it around or not has yet to be determined. They have played 5 games, and have not been at full strength for any of them. Would a full team have won them the game against Titans or 49ers, NO. But could have made a difference in Rams game. Remember they were without ALL starters in defensive backfield.
And what guys have they brought in that were winners and now are losing?
Again, since the Browns are soooooo bad, or whatever you want to call it, what does that say about YOUR team.
Baltimore has beaten Miami (0-5), Arizona (1-3-1, with that win over winless Bengals), and Steelers (1-4, that win over winless Bengals) and losses to Chiefs (4-1) and Cleveland.
Cleveland has beaten Jets (0-4), and Baltimore. Losses to Titans (2-3), Rams (3-2, a bad loss to TB and a 1 point loss to 4-1 Seahawks. Also a win over 4-1 NO) and 49ers (4-0).
I wonder who has played the tougher schedule?
And since Baker has been a Brown, the Browns are 2-1 against YOUR team.
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Considering how the Browns dismantled the Ravens (dropped 45 on their @ss), how bad do they crush the 9ers?
- Keep in mind, coaches finally realized you need to rush the ball to win. After successful rush plays, it forces the opposing D to play more honest and that opens up the passing lanes, and keeps the LBs on their heels. It means everything. Now that the Browns know this, we should see continued prolific points from now on.
- 9ers are giving up 18 points per game vs. Browns 22.8. That stat's meaningless. SF played TB, Cinci and Pgh - 3 of the weakest teams in the NFL. Browns' D is way better.
- Baker now understands he has to be amped up every game, not just show up.
- Considering they just knocked out the Ravens' teeth for 45, Browns should score over 50 on the 9ers. This game might not even be close.
Considering how the Browns dismantled the Ravens (dropped 45 on their @ss), how bad do they crush the 9ers?
- Keep in mind, coaches finally realized you need to rush the ball to win. After successful rush plays, it forces the opposing D to play more honest and that opens up the passing lanes, and keeps the LBs on their heels. It means everything. Now that the Browns know this, we should see continued prolific points from now on.
- 9ers are giving up 18 points per game vs. Browns 22.8. That stat's meaningless. SF played TB, Cinci and Pgh - 3 of the weakest teams in the NFL. Browns' D is way better.
- Baker now understands he has to be amped up every game, not just show up.
- Considering they just knocked out the Ravens' teeth for 45, Browns should score over 50 on the 9ers. This game might not even be close.
you got one thing right....game was not close....heheheheheheeeeeeee....just your typical cleveland clowns for 2019.....and by the way the ravens are not a good football team...
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