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I just found this on Twitter:
Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Day 4 - QB Position Still Open
by ChrisPokorny on Aug 4, 2009 7:19 PM EDT in 2009 Training Camp
Practice was closed to the public today, but the media still had the pleasure of watching and reporting on your Cleveland Browns. Here's what happened today, according to the media reports coming in...
TRAINING CAMP REPORT - DAY 4 (8/4/09)

Cleveland Browns head coach Eric Mangini is
still waiting for one of the quarterbacks to
emerge over the other.
1. A Tale of Two Sources: Form your own conclusion on how WR Brian Robiskie did in practice today. If you read Tony Grossi's report, Robiskie dropped three balls within a five-play span. If you ask Lane Adkins, Robiskie only had one drop and nearly caught two others that were off target.
2. Bubble Watch: For the second consecutive practice, WR Paul Hubbard made the most of his reps. Hubbard caught everything in sight, standing out amongst the crowd of receivers. The OBR notes that he has made the noticeable improvement of extending his hands for the ball rather than waiting for the ball to come to his body.
3. Mass is Matter: It was also a great practice for WR Mohamed Massaquoi, and perhaps his best one yet. He also caught everything that was coming his way, proving to be a threat due to his speed. Massaquoi had a nice catch on a crossing route which he was then able to run past the defensive backs for a long gain.
4. Quinn Not Excelling: Tony Grossi had some nice statistics from today's practice as to why it's difficult to judge which quarterback truly has the upper hand in practice. Thus far, it seems to be Derek Anderson, but here's what happened today: in 3rd- and 4th-down situations, the offensive units under Anderson and Brady Quinn were each 4-of-9 with an interception. In the two-minute drill, Anderson moved the ball into field goal range with the first-team offense. Quinn, on the other hand, could not manage a first down with the second-team offense in the two-minute drill.

LB D'Qwell Jackson has been a favorite of
Eric Mangini, as he blankets RB Jerome Harrison here.
5. Props to the Defensive Players: I mentioned above that each quarterback threw an interception. From what I can gather, Quinn was picked by S Abram Elam on an errant pass to TE Aaron Walker, while Anderson was picked by LB D'Qwell Jackson. It wasn't an easy play for Jackson, who made a great read, tipped the ball, and then dove to the ground for the interception. Jackson was praised by head coach Eric Mangini when talking to the media for being a leader on defense.
6. Bad Snaps: It sounds like Alex Mack has had some trouble getting through multiple practices without a bad snap. I'm sure he'll have plenty of time to correct that before the regular season though.
7. Rogers Motoring Again: Big Baby Shaun Rogers was back at work today, proving to be a powerhouse on the defensive line once again. He did have to run a lap though, something that Ohio.com deemed as him looking like he "virtually tip-toed around the outskirts of the field drawing both applause and laughs from individuals in attendance".
8. Backup Corners: The OBR today pointed out that backup cornerbacks Roderick Hood and Corey Ivy have been providing stable coverage. I presume that means they are better than the Terry Cousin's of the NFL. I haven't heard any updates on CB Hank Poteat yet, and the news on rookie CB Coye Francies has been limited.
9. Robaire Still Holding Up: Adkins also reports that Robaire Smith continues to look strong in practice, including having a few "epic" battles with LT Joe Thomas.
10. Cribbs Not Returning Kicks: On kickoffs, Joshua Cribbs took a break from returning the ball in practice and just worked on being on the coverage team. Instead, WR Syndric Steptoe and WR Jordan Norwood handled kickoffs.

WR Mohamed Massaquoi shouldn't have
any problems locking up a roster spot.
11. Mangini Practices "Icing": Coach Mangini needs to practice too. When Phil Dawson lined up for a 47-yard field goal, he drilled it. However, the kick was negated since Mangini called a timeout just before the snap. Dawson missed the second attempt wide left.
The Browns will practice for the public again tomorrow, with a morning session and an afternoon session. I might be a little late on the morning report tomorrow, meaning the evening recap might not come until some time Thursday.
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Love how they're "icing" Dawson on the 4th day of camp. This is going to be a good year, I think.
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Everything looks good early in camp.
By the 2nd preseason game, things will have changed.
That is the just a fact of life of the pre-season period. What we want doesn't come true and in some cases, becomes your own personal nightmare of player personal mistakes.
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why so negative man
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why so negative man
why so negative man
Not negative, just truthfull. This team isn't very talented.
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@dan-in-florida said:
Do you have anything to contribute or are you here to be a Troll (the name you picked seems to suggest that). Maybe I'm wrong. New to the board when things are looking a little promising and your the water attempt to drown the fire. ??This is MY last comment on this because I refuse to get OFF TOPIC.

Sure, I am here to talk Browns football. But sometimes, inducing a bit of reality in the situation is the best thing.
Mangini is new and no matter if he sucks, we all have hope. But lets not get carried away with these guys. Not every draft pick is going to workout, Savage era picks will be moved out for draft picks only keeping a couple around. The ones that get cut/traded over the next few years, won't always be fan friendly.
I remember all the hope from Davis/Crennel first years as well.
The one good thing about Mangini/Lerner combo, is at least they are on the same page. Patriots family of organization, we have become.
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Here is a Tony Grossi VIDEO report of today's practice:
AND here is the PRESS CONFERENCE of Coach Mangini Today (after practice):
OTHER BROWNS VIDEOS FROM TODAY:
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from ABJ:
Dueling quarterbacks: It's the battle of the summer and there's little escaping it. To some it may even feel like a replay of last summer sans the coin flip. But Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson are duking it out for the job of starting quarterback. No one can obviously judge by a single day, but Anderson definitely had an advantage on the field Tuesday, hitting his receivers consistently and showing good judgment on more than a few occasions. Brady Quinn not so much.
On more than one occasion Quinn put a reciever in a difficult position to make a catch. While occasionally one of his playmakers, such as running back Jerome Harrison, would make him look good by leaping over a defender's back to make a play. On one occasion defensive back Abe Elam, who the Browns acquired in a trade from the New York Jets, picked Quinn off, after he under threw his receiver. Quinn has thrown three picks in two days.
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Anderson definitely had an advantage on the field Tuesday
Disagree completely. Anderson looked as bad as Quinn today, if not worse on actual reads. He wasn't crisp at all. What reporting garbage.
The hitting recievers on stride thing was the worst.
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