Browns interest in Skins OT, Trent Williams
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WAit!! what...You broke your Leg? ? or Trent playing on a broken leg? Wrong Club? or bad uphill Tee lie? Golf Cart gone Wild?
lol.... none of the above...
Excited Granddaughter... Grandpa feelin' his oats...
concrete ramp to Universal's M.I.B. "ride"...
Tangled feet... ramp and hip meet...
Gramps came up "craps" as femur snaps.
Ambulance to ORMC with surgery refusing to stay away... a much longer implant spike less than a day away.
Home today... feelin' OK....... ish....
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
WAit!! what...You broke your Leg? ? or Trent playing on a broken leg? Wrong Club? or bad uphill Tee lie? Golf Cart gone Wild?
lol.... none of the above...
Excited Granddaughter... Grandpa feelin' his oats...
concrete ramp to Universal's M.I.B. "ride"...
Tangled feet... ramp and hip meet...
Gramps came up "craps" as femur snaps.
Ambulance to ORMC with surgery refusing to stay away... a much longer implant spike less than a day away.
Home today... feelin' OK....... ish....
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lol.... none of the above...
Excited Granddaughter... Grandpa feelin' his oats...
concrete ramp to Universal's M.I.B. "ride"...
Tangled feet... ramp and hip meet...
Gramps came up "craps" as femur snaps.
Ambulance to ORMC with surgery refusing to stay away... a much longer implant spike less than a day away.
Home today... feelin' OK....... ish....
We're headed to Orlando for a 5 night stay with all kids/grandkids during Thanksgiving break. I will be sure to look for the broken femur ride. Sounds like you really need this man though.??
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I hope we don't make this trade. People need to remember that our OL wasn't performing great last year and Baker was getting killed. Remember we were all worried he wasn't going to last? Then the coaching change and Baker couldn't be touched the rest of the year, and this too happened after the bye week.
This can happen again. Are we going to make SOME changes? Yes, Dorsey made that pretty damn clear in the way he spoke about the tackles. Don't be surprised to see Kendall Lamm get a shot at tackle and Wyatt Tellar will definitely replace Kush. You may even see two new tackles, with McCray joining Lamm. What kills Dorsey and the coaching staff are the penalties. That last holding call effectively lost us the game. Instead of 2nd and 2, it was 1st and 20, and you know what happened next. It's a common theme with Robinson, and he NEVER gets the benefit of the doubt. The refs really could've let that one go, but that's how it's gone this year.
For some reason I'm REALLY looking forward to the Patriots game. I just get the feeling that our team is on the verge of bursting out, and I'm not one to normally shout out optimistic proclamations. Baker has literally missed almost every single red zone read, and when he DID make the correct decision, it's been picked off. That WON'T continue to happen, and he's going to get healthy and refocus in the coming days. Against the Patriots, we'll need to use the pass to set up the run, and I think we will do just that. Seals-Jones will score again, as will Chubb (pass + rush), Landry, and a deep OBJ TD.
Browns win 34 to 23.
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I hope we don't make this trade. People need to remember that our OL wasn't performing great last year and Baker was getting killed. Remember we were all worried he wasn't going to last? Then the coaching change and Baker couldn't be touched the rest of the year, and this too happened after the bye week.
This can happen again. Are we going to make SOME changes? Yes, Dorsey made that pretty damn clear in the way he spoke about the tackles. Don't be surprised to see Kendall Lamm get a shot at tackle and Wyatt Tellar will definitely replace Kush. You may even see two new tackles, with McCray joining Lamm. What kills Dorsey and the coaching staff are the penalties. That last holding call effectively lost us the game. Instead of 2nd and 2, it was 1st and 20, and you know what happened next. It's a common theme with Robinson, and he NEVER gets the benefit of the doubt. The refs really could've let that one go, but that's how it's gone this year.
For some reason I'm REALLY looking forward to the Patriots game. I just get the feeling that our team is on the verge of bursting out, and I'm not one to normally shout out optimistic proclamations. Baker has literally missed almost every single red zone read, and when he DID make the correct decision, it's been picked off. That WON'T continue to happen, and he's going to get healthy and refocus in the coming days. Against the Patriots, we'll need to use the pass to set up the run, and I think we will do just that. Seals-Jones will score again, as will Chubb (pass + rush), Landry, and a deep OBJ TD.
Browns win 34 to 23.
I hope we don't make this trade. People need to remember that our OL wasn't performing great last year and Baker was getting killed. Remember we were all worried he wasn't going to last? Then the coaching change and Baker couldn't be touched the rest of the year, and this too happened after the bye week.
This can happen again. Are we going to make SOME changes? Yes, Dorsey made that pretty damn clear in the way he spoke about the tackles. Don't be surprised to see Kendall Lamm get a shot at tackle and Wyatt Tellar will definitely replace Kush. You may even see two new tackles, with McCray joining Lamm. What kills Dorsey and the coaching staff are the penalties. That last holding call effectively lost us the game. Instead of 2nd and 2, it was 1st and 20, and you know what happened next. It's a common theme with Robinson, and he NEVER gets the benefit of the doubt. The refs really could've let that one go, but that's how it's gone this year. Also, our staff is very excited about Drew Forbes, and he suffered that awful injury in the preseason JUST as he was skyrocketing up the depth chart. Luckily for him, it wasn't too serious, and he should be ready week 9. He's built like a tackle with freakish ability.
For some reason I'm REALLY looking forward to the Patriots game. I just get the feeling that our team is on the verge of bursting out, and I'm not one to normally shout out optimistic proclamations. Baker has literally missed almost every single red zone read, and when he DID make the correct decision, it's been picked off. That WON'T continue to happen, and he's going to get healthy and refocus in the coming days. Against the Patriots, we'll need to use the pass to set up the run, and I think we will do just that. Seals-Jones will score again, as will Chubb (pass + rush), Landry, and a deep OBJ TD.
Browns win 34 to 23.
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I hope we don't make this trade. People need to remember that our OL wasn't performing great last year and Baker was getting killed. Remember we were all worried he wasn't going to last? Then the coaching change and Baker couldn't be touched the rest of the year, and this too happened after the bye week.
This can happen again. Are we going to make SOME changes? Yes, Dorsey made that pretty damn clear in the way he spoke about the tackles. Don't be surprised to see Kendall Lamm get a shot at tackle and Wyatt Tellar will definitely replace Kush. You may even see two new tackles, with McCray joining Lamm. What kills Dorsey and the coaching staff are the penalties. That last holding call effectively lost us the game. Instead of 2nd and 2, it was 1st and 20, and you know what happened next. It's a common theme with Robinson, and he NEVER gets the benefit of the doubt. The refs really could've let that one go, but that's how it's gone this year. Also, our staff is very excited about Drew Forbes, and he suffered that awful injury in the preseason JUST as he was skyrocketing up the depth chart. Luckily for him, it wasn't too serious, and he should be ready week 9. He's built like a tackle with freakish ability.
For some reason I'm REALLY looking forward to the Patriots game. I just get the feeling that our team is on the verge of bursting out, and I'm not one to normally shout out optimistic proclamations. Baker has literally missed almost every single red zone read, and when he DID make the correct decision, it's been picked off. That WON'T continue to happen, and he's going to get healthy and refocus in the coming days. Against the Patriots, we'll need to use the pass to set up the run, and I think we will do just that. Seals-Jones will score again, as will Chubb (pass + rush), Landry, and a deep OBJ TD.
Browns win 34 to 23.
For some reason I'm REALLY looking forward to the Patriots game. I just get the feeling that our team is on the verge of bursting out, and I'm not one to normally shout out optimistic proclamations. Baker has literally missed almost every single red zone read, and when he DID make the correct decision, it's been picked off. That WON'T continue to happen, and he's going to get healthy and refocus in the coming days. Against the Patriots, we'll need to use the pass to set up the run, and I think we will do just that. Seals-Jones will score again, as will Chubb (pass + rush), Landry, and a deep OBJ TD.
Browns win 34 to 23.
Got a new book title for ya j. The Decline and Fall of the jiggins Hope Machine. LOL?
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For some reason I'm REALLY looking forward to the Patriots game. I just get the feeling that our team is on the verge of bursting out, and I'm not one to normally shout out optimistic proclamations. Baker has literally missed almost every single red zone read, and when he DID make the correct decision, it's been picked off. That WON'T continue to happen, and he's going to get healthy and refocus in the coming days. Against the Patriots, we'll need to use the pass to set up the run, and I think we will do just that. Seals-Jones will score again, as will Chubb (pass + rush), Landry, and a deep OBJ TD.
Browns win 34 to 23.
Got a new book title for ya j. The Decline and Fall of the jiggins Hope Machine. LOL?
Got a new book title for ya j. The Decline and Fall of the jiggins Hope Machine. LOL?
LOL, I know, I know. I literally just watched the Seahawks game again, and if you think it becomes easier to digest the more you watch it, I've got bad news for you.
Saying that, the game left me feeling like we should have won, no questions asked. We should have beaten the best team in the league, or one of them. And to be honest, the game probably shouldn't have been that close. What's amazing to me is our inexplicable knack for completely shitting the sheets when we need a play. It's uncanny! For example, let's look at the Seahawks' 3rd quarter touchdown with around 6 minutes to go I think. This is the score where Russell has all day to find someone, and eventually fires it over the middle to a receiver. Why am I bringing this up? Because it was 3rd down. We stonewalled them the previous two plays, and we needed one more play. We needed our star to make a play.
As been the narrative much of the year, we failed to make said play. Myles Garrett got COMPLETELY shutdown, as did our other DE. What's worse? They were both blocked by one person. This was no quick release pass play, had Myles beaten his guy just BARELY, Russell would have thrown out out of bounds like he always does.
But that's been the microcosm of the season, hasn't it? When you watch good teams win, their stars make plays when their team needs them. We do the opposite of that, and I can't figure it out. Just one strip sack. Just one interception. Just one amazing catch. Just....SOMETHING when we need it the most. Myles Garrett was blocked by one guy who is not very good, and blocked for a long time. We needed more.
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Got a new book title for ya j. The Decline and Fall of the jiggins Hope Machine. LOL?
LOL, I know, I know. I literally just watched the Seahawks game again, and if you think it becomes easier to digest the more you watch it, I've got bad news for you.
Saying that, the game left me feeling like we should have won, no questions asked. We should have beaten the best team in the league, or one of them. And to be honest, the game probably shouldn't have been that close. What's amazing to me is our inexplicable knack for completely shitting the sheets when we need a play. It's uncanny! For example, let's look at the Seahawks' 3rd quarter touchdown with around 6 minutes to go I think. This is the score where Russell has all day to find someone, and eventually fires it over the middle to a receiver. Why am I bringing this up? Because it was 3rd down. We stonewalled them the previous two plays, and we needed one more play. We needed our star to make a play.
As been the narrative much of the year, we failed to make said play. Myles Garrett got COMPLETELY shutdown, as did our other DE. What's worse? They were both blocked by one person. This was no quick release pass play, had Myles beaten his guy just BARELY, Russell would have thrown out out of bounds like he always does.
But that's been the microcosm of the season, hasn't it? When you watch good teams win, their stars make plays when their team needs them. We do the opposite of that, and I can't figure it out. Just one strip sack. Just one interception. Just one amazing catch. Just....SOMETHING when we need it the most. Myles Garrett was blocked by one guy who is not very good, and blocked for a long time. We needed more.
LOL, I know, I know. I literally just watched the Seahawks game again, and if you think it becomes easier to digest the more you watch it, I've got bad news for you.
Saying that, the game left me feeling like we should have won, no questions asked. We should have beaten the best team in the league, or one of them. And to be honest, the game probably shouldn't have been that close. What's amazing to me is our inexplicable knack for completely shitting the sheets when we need a play. It's uncanny! For example, let's look at the Seahawks' 3rd quarter touchdown with around 6 minutes to go I think. This is the score where Russell has all day to find someone, and eventually fires it over the middle to a receiver. Why am I bringing this up? Because it was 3rd down. We stonewalled them the previous two plays, and we needed one more play. We needed our star to make a play.
As been the narrative much of the year, we failed to make said play. Myles Garrett got COMPLETELY shutdown, as did our other DE. What's worse? They were both blocked by one person. This was no quick release pass play, had Myles beaten his guy just BARELY, Russell would have thrown out out of bounds like he always does.
But that's been the microcosm of the season, hasn't it? When you watch good teams win, their stars make plays when their team needs them. We do the opposite of that, and I can't figure it out. Just one strip sack. Just one interception. Just one amazing catch. Just....SOMETHING when we need it the most. Myles Garrett was blocked by one guy who is not very good, and blocked for a long time. We needed more.
Actually that was the most pressure I have ever seen on Wilson and the most times I have seen him throw it away to avoid the sack. Plus Myles sacked him twice which is more than happens to Wilson by a whole team in several games combined. I really fault the offense for screwing the pooch once again at key times, especially the INT just before the half that flipped the entire game.
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LOL, I know, I know. I literally just watched the Seahawks game again, and if you think it becomes easier to digest the more you watch it, I've got bad news for you.
Saying that, the game left me feeling like we should have won, no questions asked. We should have beaten the best team in the league, or one of them. And to be honest, the game probably shouldn't have been that close. What's amazing to me is our inexplicable knack for completely shitting the sheets when we need a play. It's uncanny! For example, let's look at the Seahawks' 3rd quarter touchdown with around 6 minutes to go I think. This is the score where Russell has all day to find someone, and eventually fires it over the middle to a receiver. Why am I bringing this up? Because it was 3rd down. We stonewalled them the previous two plays, and we needed one more play. We needed our star to make a play.
As been the narrative much of the year, we failed to make said play. Myles Garrett got COMPLETELY shutdown, as did our other DE. What's worse? They were both blocked by one person. This was no quick release pass play, had Myles beaten his guy just BARELY, Russell would have thrown out out of bounds like he always does.
But that's been the microcosm of the season, hasn't it? When you watch good teams win, their stars make plays when their team needs them. We do the opposite of that, and I can't figure it out. Just one strip sack. Just one interception. Just one amazing catch. Just....SOMETHING when we need it the most. Myles Garrett was blocked by one guy who is not very good, and blocked for a long time. We needed more.
Actually that was the most pressure I have ever seen on Wilson and the most times I have seen him throw it away to avoid the sack. Plus Myles sacked him twice which is more than happens to Wilson by a whole team in several games combined. I really fault the offense for screwing the pooch once again at key times, especially the INT just before the half that flipped the entire game.
Actually that was the most pressure I have ever seen on Wilson and the most times I have seen him throw it away to avoid the sack. Plus Myles sacked him twice which is more than happens to Wilson by a whole team in several games combined. I really fault the offense for screwing the pooch once again at key times, especially the INT just before the half that flipped the entire game.
I get it, I really do, and for the most part, you're right. We got a lot of pressure on him. I was simply saying there was a big play, on 3rd down, and our monster DE (both of them) got totally shut down when we needed them. I was using it as an example of how our stars don't shine when we need them the most.
And you're right again, our offense totally shit the bed with that interception, as did our coach. But I'll argue that our defense should not give up a touchdown drive with 1:30 to go in the half.
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I hope we don't make this trade. People need to remember that our OL wasn't performing great last year and Baker was getting killed. Remember we were all worried he wasn't going to last? Then the coaching change and Baker couldn't be touched the rest of the year, and this too happened after the bye week.
This can happen again. Are we going to make SOME changes? Yes, Dorsey made that pretty damn clear in the way he spoke about the tackles. Don't be surprised to see Kendall Lamm get a shot at tackle and Wyatt Tellar will definitely replace Kush. You may even see two new tackles, with McCray joining Lamm. What kills Dorsey and the coaching staff are the penalties. That last holding call effectively lost us the game. Instead of 2nd and 2, it was 1st and 20, and you know what happened next. It's a common theme with Robinson, and he NEVER gets the benefit of the doubt. The refs really could've let that one go, but that's how it's gone this year.
For some reason I'm REALLY looking forward to the Patriots game. I just get the feeling that our team is on the verge of bursting out, and I'm not one to normally shout out optimistic proclamations. Baker has literally missed almost every single red zone read, and when he DID make the correct decision, it's been picked off. That WON'T continue to happen, and he's going to get healthy and refocus in the coming days. Against the Patriots, we'll need to use the pass to set up the run, and I think we will do just that. Seals-Jones will score again, as will Chubb (pass + rush), Landry, and a deep OBJ TD.
Browns win 34 to 23.
For some reason I'm REALLY looking forward to the Patriots game.
Me, too... any residual problem(s) we have should become very clear.
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So...did this deal ever happen, or what?
So...did this deal ever happen, or what?
Not yet, and I suspect it won't. Redskins probably asking too much.
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So...did this deal ever happen, or what?
Not yet, and I suspect it won't. Redskins probably asking too much.
Not yet, and I suspect it won't. Redskins probably asking too much.
From the sounds of it they don't want to trade him
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From the sounds of it they don't want to trade him
Well, Dan Snyder has never been considered the smartest owner. He may not want to trade him, but obvious the Redskins are in a rebuild mode, and a 31 year old tackle is hardly a prime piece to rebuild on. Plus I'll bet Williams will sit out the year if he's not traded.
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Now reports are saying that if not Trent, then Nate Solder... probably the most overrated LT of this decade.
Robinson is playing better than Nate.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
A LT doesn’t fix this teams problems. Maybe on the surface it appears that way.
Look at Freddie look at Baker.
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A LT doesn’t fix this teams problems. Maybe on the surface it appears that way.
Look at Freddie look at Baker.
A LT doesn’t fix this teams problems. Maybe on the surface it appears that way.
Look at Freddie look at Baker.
first year starting, first year head coach... they are not the problem.
Calloway just getting back, double covered Landry and OBJ, Njoku being injured, Higgins being injured...
reduces major responsibilities/concerns to just a few. That lets the oline be attacked, etc etc.
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A LT doesn’t fix this teams problems. Maybe on the surface it appears that way.
Look at Freddie look at Baker.
first year starting, first year head coach... they are not the problem.
Calloway just getting back, double covered Landry and OBJ, Njoku being injured, Higgins being injured...
reduces major responsibilities/concerns to just a few. That lets the oline be attacked, etc etc.
first year starting, first year head coach... they are not the problem.
Calloway just getting back, double covered Landry and OBJ, Njoku being injured, Higgins being injured...
reduces major responsibilities/concerns to just a few. That lets the oline be attacked, etc etc.
Yes I don't see one or two big glaring problems I see a bunch of various problems including Freddie and Baker but including a collection of including penalties, injuries, lack of performance and others.
Sure it always reflects back to the HC but include the FO to some degree and the individual players not performing as expected. Kind of like beating the same dead horse for 8 weeks now.
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bad uphill Tee lie? Golf Cart gone Wild?
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