Nick Chubb running behind Quentin Nelson. Sorry, Bake.
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Nevermind that Mark Glowinski and Braden Smith were absolute' strike-gold type picks that blossomed into their own when paired with even more young talent around them. Forming one of the NFL's best lines on the cheap over the course of one off-season.
Nope, All Nelson. A great player? yes. Worth bitching about? Not so much. (Which this is - NOT a debate)
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Nevermind that Mark Glowinski and Braden Smith were absolute' strike-gold type picks that blossomed into their own when paired with even more young talent around them. Forming one of the NFL's best lines on the cheap over the course of one off-season.
Nope, All Nelson. A great player? yes. Worth bitching about? Not so much. (Which this is - NOT a debate)
Nevermind that Mark Glowinski and Braden Smith were absolute' strike-gold type picks that blossomed into their own when paired with even more young talent around them. Forming one of the NFL's best lines on the cheap over the course of one off-season.
Nope, All Nelson. A great player? yes. Worth bitching about? Not so much. (Which this is - NOT a debate)
With respect, no way Nelson isn't the guy that transformed that line. He made that O-Line a force that you must respect. He's the factor, period.
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Nevermind that Mark Glowinski and Braden Smith were absolute' strike-gold type picks that blossomed into their own when paired with even more young talent around them. Forming one of the NFL's best lines on the cheap over the course of one off-season.
Nope, All Nelson. A great player? yes. Worth bitching about? Not so much. (Which this is - NOT a debate)
With respect, no way Nelson isn't the guy that transformed that line. He made that O-Line a force that you must respect. He's the factor, period.
With respect, no way Nelson isn't the guy that transformed that line. He made that O-Line a force that you must respect. He's the factor, period.
He's their best player and the leader along the line - no doubt. But the rest of the line is NFL quality and you're ignoring that for the sake of a rant.
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What is your point? Nelson is a great player. The Colts certainly are not going to be giving him up.
Just bringing up a debate. Nelson or Mayfield. Maybe it's obvious Mayfield. I think Nelson transforms the culture of the franchise like he did the Colts. They went from worst to first in pass-protection in one year. They run at will. Nelson is a major player in the NFL. Denzel Ward was always undersized. Nelson easily over Ward and maybe Mayfield. He was projected to dominate and had tape to back it up. Am I wrong?
Nelson easily over Ward and maybe Mayfield. He was projected to dominate and had tape to back it up. Am I wrong?
your kinda playing cherry picking fantasy football., but we never had a Andrew Luck to protect... before the 2018 draft, your 3 QB's are Tyrod Taylor, Drew Stanton & Kevin Hogan..your starting G's=Bitonio & Ziedler.. your starting CB's are..BBC/ Jamar Taylor & Terrance Mitchell... Q..Nelson, yes a great player..but surely not the right fit at right time..
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Nelson easily over Ward and maybe Mayfield. He was projected to dominate and had tape to back it up. Am I wrong?
your kinda playing cherry picking fantasy football., but we never had a Andrew Luck to protect... before the 2018 draft, your 3 QB's are Tyrod Taylor, Drew Stanton & Kevin Hogan..your starting G's=Bitonio & Ziedler.. your starting CB's are..BBC/ Jamar Taylor & Terrance Mitchell... Q..Nelson, yes a great player..but surely not the right fit at right time..
your kinda playing cherry picking fantasy football., but we never had a Andrew Luck to protect... before the 2018 draft, your 3 QB's are Tyrod Taylor, Drew Stanton & Kevin Hogan..your starting G's=Bitonio & Ziedler.. your starting CB's are..BBC/ Jamar Taylor & Terrance Mitchell... Q..Nelson, yes a great player..but surely not the right fit at right time..
Nelson is and was the right player for every era. He just dominates all day, every play.
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your kinda playing cherry picking fantasy football., but we never had a Andrew Luck to protect... before the 2018 draft, your 3 QB's are Tyrod Taylor, Drew Stanton & Kevin Hogan..your starting G's=Bitonio & Ziedler.. your starting CB's are..BBC/ Jamar Taylor & Terrance Mitchell... Q..Nelson, yes a great player..but surely not the right fit at right time..
Nelson is and was the right player for every era. He just dominates all day, every play.
Nelson just dominates all day, every play.
ok, Gumby surrenders..Skippin Turtles?just won the internet..Jim Ersay will ship this Turtle a Nelson jersey
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The flag should have a #56 on it and that green turd reps the rest of the league.
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This, of course, survives on the notion that Nelson would somehow as an individual player earn this team more wins than it currently has on his own merit.
Which simply isn't true despite his outstanding play on the field.
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This is troll bait, not even worth this comment GGs
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This is troll bait, not even worth this comment GGs
This is troll bait, not even worth this comment GGs
I presented a legit conversation. Baker and Denzel could both go to the HOF. What do I know?
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This is troll bait, not even worth this comment GGs
I presented a legit conversation. Baker and Denzel could both go to the HOF. What do I know?
What do I know?
Obviously you know that any team that employs Nelson is an automatic Super Bowl contender.
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This, of course, survives on the notion that Nelson would somehow as an individual player earn this team more wins than it currently has on his own merit.
Which simply isn't true despite his outstanding play on the field.
This, of course, survives on the notion that Nelson would somehow as an individual player earn this team more wins than it currently has on his own merit.
Which simply isn't true despite his outstanding play on the field.
Yeah, tia. We can use the Ghoolie arguement here. Joe Thomas is going to the HOF, and how much did that help the Browns?
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This, of course, survives on the notion that Nelson would somehow as an individual player earn this team more wins than it currently has on his own merit.
Which simply isn't true despite his outstanding play on the field.
Yeah, tia. We can use the Ghoolie arguement here. Joe Thomas is going to the HOF, and how much did that help the Browns?
Yeah, tia. We can use the Ghoolie arguement here. Joe Thomas is going to the HOF, and how much did that help the Browns?
The Ghoolie argument is a different context. Ghoolie basically saying lineman were worthless. This is an outright player to player comparison being Baker vs Nelson. Which is a story too early to settle.
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This, of course, survives on the notion that Nelson would somehow as an individual player earn this team more wins than it currently has on his own merit.
Which simply isn't true despite his outstanding play on the field.
Yeah, tia. We can use the Ghoolie arguement here. Joe Thomas is going to the HOF, and how much did that help the Browns?
Yeah, tia. We can use the Ghoolie arguement here. Joe Thomas is going to the HOF, and how much did that help the Browns?
Joe Thomas was the best ever at protecting terrible QB's. Props. Nelson can do that and completely dominate in the run game. Dominate. Nelson is the heartbeat of their offense. Thomas is HOF, but Nelson seems like a throwback. He punishes people to the whistle. Character guy, too. Thomas never missed a snap because he was basically a Wal-Mart greeter.
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See if I get this right???
At the time we had Bito and Zeitler, no QB and weak CBs, we should have taken Nelson?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
See if I get this right???
At the time we had Bito and Zeitler, no QB and weak CBs, we should have taken Nelson?
See if I get this right???
At the time we had Bito and Zeitler, no QB and weak CBs, we should have taken Nelson?
Nelson is a generational talent. Just watch the way he run blocks. He was the exception to rule in terms of drafting OL. A guard that can transform an offense. It doesn't happen until him. Would Baker take him over skinny D.Ward. Who knows?
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See if I get this right???
At the time we had Bito and Zeitler, no QB and weak CBs, we should have taken Nelson?
Nelson is a generational talent. Just watch the way he run blocks. He was the exception to rule in terms of drafting OL. A guard that can transform an offense. It doesn't happen until him. Would Baker take him over skinny D.Ward. Who knows?
Nelson is a generational talent. Just watch the way he run blocks. He was the exception to rule in terms of drafting OL. A guard that can transform an offense. It doesn't happen until him. Would Baker take him over skinny D.Ward. Who knows?
Hindsight is 20/20 lots of “generational” talents have been passed on.
Ward is great and this thread is pointless -
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Nelson is a generational talent. Just watch the way he run blocks. He was the exception to rule in terms of drafting OL. A guard that can transform an offense. It doesn't happen until him. Would Baker take him over skinny D.Ward. Who knows?
Hindsight is 20/20 lots of “generational” talents have been passed on.
Ward is great and this thread is pointlessHindsight is 20/20 lots of “generational” talents have been passed on.
Ward is great and this thread is pointlessMost threads are pointless. Healthy Ward is great. Nelson should be elite for 12-15 years. Ward at age 30 at his size might be finished.
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Hindsight is 20/20 lots of “generational” talents have been passed on.
Ward is great and this thread is pointlessMost threads are pointless. Healthy Ward is great. Nelson should be elite for 12-15 years. Ward at age 30 at his size might be finished.
Most threads are pointless. Healthy Ward is great. Nelson should be elite for 12-15 years. Ward at age 30 at his size might be finished.
OK, well....Trivia Question: How many offensive Guards have been taken with the overall #1 pick in the draft since the drafts inception in 1936?
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