Rigged? Browns getting screwed by refs
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Too bad this guy is no longer available to us from WWE to play LT. Just needs to occupy a space to get around @ 7'4" 520 lbs.
Roussimoff a.k.a. Andre the Giant, wrestling a "local competitor" in June 1973
Inconceivable!!
Inconceivable!!
Oh the white Shaq!
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As I've noted now a bunch, the problem is that NFL referees simply have no incentive to do better. I also don't believe there's a big coverup, but I don't see how someone can honestly logically look at how games are reffed and not go "hmm" to why certain teams are so closely watched compared to others. It's just a statement of fact really. However, these mofos are protected by Goddell and their Union so they don't have to do better. Honestly, it's quickly made me so much less interested in watching games outside the Browns for how lousy calls are and how they impact the game.
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I'm immune to it because the team I follow the most has been screwed harder.
It's funny though watching some of the same people that said back then that the refs didn't matter no being up in arms about unfair refs
That 4th down call still getting to you I see. Crables hit on Troy is probably up there.
That 4th down call still getting to you I see. Crables hit on Troy is probably up there.
There have been many more obviously incorrect calls, even just in that first game you referenced
Anyway, a lot of Browns fans are OSU fans. So in one breath I can hear something about how the refs don't matter and in the next I'll hear the refs are killing us.
It's funny, the blind irony.
I've just seen so much worse that I'm not freaking out about these calls on the Browns
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As I've noted now a bunch, the problem is that NFL referees simply have no incentive to do better. I also don't believe there's a big coverup, but I don't see how someone can honestly logically look at how games are reffed and not go "hmm" to why certain teams are so closely watched compared to others. It's just a statement of fact really. However, these mofos are protected by Goddell and their Union so they don't have to do better. Honestly, it's quickly made me so much less interested in watching games outside the Browns for how lousy calls are and how they impact the game.
As I've noted now a bunch, the problem is that NFL referees simply have no incentive to do better. I also don't believe there's a big coverup, but I don't see how someone can honestly logically look at how games are reffed and not go "hmm" to why certain teams are so closely watched compared to others. It's just a statement of fact really. However, these mofos are protected by Goddell and their Union so they don't have to do better. Honestly, it's quickly made me so much less interested in watching games outside the Browns for how lousy calls are and how they impact the game.
That is largely true, a lot of "referee insecurities" started with the original increased use of replays and with great HD slo-mos and now with challenges and reviews on PI and the like it's past time to address it and use the modern technology available today plus whatever training is necessary to make things better......not perfect.
And then hopefully all of this referee hysteria and conspiracy crap will die down and go away....... hopefully.
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As I've noted now a bunch, the problem is that NFL referees simply have no incentive to do better. I also don't believe there's a big coverup, but I don't see how someone can honestly logically look at how games are reffed and not go "hmm" to why certain teams are so closely watched compared to others. It's just a statement of fact really. However, these mofos are protected by Goddell and their Union so they don't have to do better. Honestly, it's quickly made me so much less interested in watching games outside the Browns for how lousy calls are and how they impact the game.
That is largely true, a lot of "referee insecurities" started with the original increased use of replays and with great HD slo-mos and now with challenges and reviews on PI and the like it's past time to address it and use the modern technology available today plus whatever training is necessary to make things better......not perfect.
And then hopefully all of this referee hysteria and conspiracy crap will die down and go away....... hopefully.
That is largely true, a lot of "referee insecurities" started with the original increased use of replays and with great HD slo-mos and now with challenges and reviews on PI and the like it's past time to address it and use the modern technology available today plus whatever training is necessary to make things better......not perfect.
And then hopefully all of this referee hysteria and conspiracy crap will die down and go away....... hopefully.
You do know what conspiracy means right? It means "Hidden agenda"
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That is largely true, a lot of "referee insecurities" started with the original increased use of replays and with great HD slo-mos and now with challenges and reviews on PI and the like it's past time to address it and use the modern technology available today plus whatever training is necessary to make things better......not perfect.
And then hopefully all of this referee hysteria and conspiracy crap will die down and go away....... hopefully.
You do know what conspiracy means right? It means "Hidden agenda"
You do know what conspiracy means right? It means "Hidden agenda"
No I don't watch FOX News.
Seriously though I can't see anyone pulling something like this off and risking the NFL brand maybe forever. If people thought the games were fixed in any way the viewership and TV money would dry up real quick and the money is the life blood of any show. No money no show.
And would the referees risk a $200,000++ /year part-time job for a stunt like this AND a lifetime ban? Or the players risk millions? Would the owners risk ruining their billion dollar franchise? No.
Well they might do it in Hollywood. Maybe.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
I'm immune to it because the team I follow the most has been screwed harder.
It's funny though watching some of the same people that said back then that the refs didn't matter no being up in arms about unfair refs
I'm immune to it because the team I follow the most has been screwed harder.
It's funny though watching some of the same people that said back then that the refs didn't matter no being up in arms about unfair refs
I thought the team you followed is the Cleveland Browns.
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I'm immune to it because the team I follow the most has been screwed harder.
It's funny though watching some of the same people that said back then that the refs didn't matter no being up in arms about unfair refs
I'm immune to it because the team I follow the most has been screwed harder.
It's funny though watching some of the same people that said back then that the refs didn't matter no being up in arms about unfair refs
https://mgoblog.com/diaries/resolving-parallax-error
Even mgoblog using parallax line says barrett made it.
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I'm immune to it because the team I follow the most has been screwed harder.
It's funny though watching some of the same people that said back then that the refs didn't matter no being up in arms about unfair refs
I thought the team you followed is the Cleveland Browns.
I thought the team you followed is the Cleveland Browns.
Woody is very talented he can follow more than one team at a time it's not that hard to do. I follow several.
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I thought the team you followed is the Cleveland Browns.
Woody is very talented he can follow more than one team at a time it's not that hard to do. I follow several.
Woody is very talented he can follow more than one team at a time it's not that hard to do. I follow several.
But since he is on this forum I assumed he was referring to an NFL team.
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It's almost like there are multiple levels of football that, crazily enough, all have refs
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To all of those out there who say the NFL isn't/can't be rigged, all one has to do is look at the story of Tim Donaghy and point shaving in the NBA to see how a ref can be influenced to change the outcome of a game in any major league sport.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
To all of those out there who say the NFL isn't/can't be rigged, all one has to do is look at the story of Tim Donaghy and point shaving in the NBA to see how a ref can be influenced to change the outcome of a game in any major league sport.
To all of those out there who say the NFL isn't/can't be rigged, all one has to do is look at the story of Tim Donaghy and point shaving in the NBA to see how a ref can be influenced to change the outcome of a game in any major league sport.
Oh....the NFL can be rigged. But I don't think it has been, not really. I do think that possibly there is some kind of subliminal bias involved however. Teams that have done well over the years seem to always get the benefit of the doubt.....those who have not done well do not.
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To all of those out there who say the NFL isn't/can't be rigged, all one has to do is look at the story of Tim Donaghy and point shaving in the NBA to see how a ref can be influenced to change the outcome of a game in any major league sport.
Oh....the NFL can be rigged. But I don't think it has been, not really. I do think that possibly there is some kind of subliminal bias involved however. Teams that have done well over the years seem to always get the benefit of the doubt.....those who have not done well do not.
Oh....the NFL can be rigged. But I don't think it has been, not really. I do think that possibly there is some kind of subliminal bias involved however. Teams that have done well over the years seem to always get the benefit of the doubt.....those who have not done well do not.
If the NFL gets caught in a cheating or gambling scandal you can bury it on ESPN3. They have enough trouble with the concussion, low interest by young people and other things like the soccer moms and dads that want junior to play soccer not tackle football.
They are fighting hard to keep it clean and promote interest in the game especially by kids there future audience......and players.
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You do know what conspiracy means right? It means "Hidden agenda"
No I don't watch FOX News.
Seriously though I can't see anyone pulling something like this off and risking the NFL brand maybe forever. If people thought the games were fixed in any way the viewership and TV money would dry up real quick and the money is the life blood of any show. No money no show.
And would the referees risk a $200,000++ /year part-time job for a stunt like this AND a lifetime ban? Or the players risk millions? Would the owners risk ruining their billion dollar franchise? No.
Well they might do it in Hollywood. Maybe.
No I don't watch FOX News.
Seriously though I can't see anyone pulling something like this off and risking the NFL brand maybe forever. If people thought the games were fixed in any way the viewership and TV money would dry up real quick and the money is the life blood of any show. No money no show.
And would the referees risk a $200,000++ /year part-time job for a stunt like this AND a lifetime ban? Or the players risk millions? Would the owners risk ruining their billion dollar franchise? No.
Well they might do it in Hollywood. Maybe.
Are you aware that there have been books published saying so right? Better yet Have you seen any polls where they ask people what they think if games are fixed? Even more People KNOW the WWE is scripted yet have zero trouble filling arenas. Not trying to argue or even be a ass, just sayin. I have no problem with you as you are a fellow dawg only saying that we always get a high draft PICKS and never get any better what so ever, that alone says something fishy right by itself. But hey, GO BROWNS. BTW A really good book to name 1 is "Interference" By Dan Moldea
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No I don't watch FOX News.
Seriously though I can't see anyone pulling something like this off and risking the NFL brand maybe forever. If people thought the games were fixed in any way the viewership and TV money would dry up real quick and the money is the life blood of any show. No money no show.
And would the referees risk a $200,000++ /year part-time job for a stunt like this AND a lifetime ban? Or the players risk millions? Would the owners risk ruining their billion dollar franchise? No.
Well they might do it in Hollywood. Maybe.
Are you aware that there have been books published saying so right? Better yet Have you seen any polls where they ask people what they think if games are fixed? Even more People KNOW the WWE is scripted yet have zero trouble filling arenas. Not trying to argue or even be a ass, just sayin. I have no problem with you as you are a fellow dawg only saying that we always get a high draft PICKS and never get any better what so ever, that alone says something fishy right by itself. But hey, GO BROWNS. BTW A really good book to name 1 is "Interference" By Dan Moldea
Are you aware that there have been books published saying so right? Better yet Have you seen any polls where they ask people what they think if games are fixed? Even more People KNOW the WWE is scripted yet have zero trouble filling arenas. Not trying to argue or even be a ass, just sayin. I have no problem with you as you are a fellow dawg only saying that we always get a high draft PICKS and never get any better what so ever, that alone says something fishy right by itself. But hey, GO BROWNS. BTW A really good book to name 1 is "Interference" By Dan Moldea
Like.....
The Fix Is In: The Showbiz Manipulations of the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL and NASCAR Paperback – April 1, 2010
by Brian Tuohy (Author)Nightmare in the Woods: One Family's True, Strange and Terrifying Encounter with Bigfoot in the Northeastern United States 1st Edition
by A. H. Verge (Author)(just for the sake of a good discussion on the subject, I don't believe that you are a wacko or anything)There will always be books out there for the gullible wackos who want to believe in and buy them. NO credible evidence has come to light or made national news on the NFL is fixed.Just like despite having cameras and film for over 100 years and now millions of people with cellphones NOBODY has ever come forward with true undeniable evedience of Bigfoot, UFOs, the lock ness monster and all of the boogey man stories that have been around forever.Show me that and I'll check it out.
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