Nick Chubb running behind Quentin Nelson. Sorry, Bake.
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See if I get this right???
At the time we had Bito and Zeitler, no QB and weak CBs, we should have taken Nelson?
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See if I get this right???
At the time we had Bito and Zeitler, no QB and weak CBs, we should have taken Nelson?
See if I get this right???
At the time we had Bito and Zeitler, no QB and weak CBs, we should have taken Nelson?
Nelson is a generational talent. Just watch the way he run blocks. He was the exception to rule in terms of drafting OL. A guard that can transform an offense. It doesn't happen until him. Would Baker take him over skinny D.Ward. Who knows?
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See if I get this right???
At the time we had Bito and Zeitler, no QB and weak CBs, we should have taken Nelson?
Nelson is a generational talent. Just watch the way he run blocks. He was the exception to rule in terms of drafting OL. A guard that can transform an offense. It doesn't happen until him. Would Baker take him over skinny D.Ward. Who knows?
Nelson is a generational talent. Just watch the way he run blocks. He was the exception to rule in terms of drafting OL. A guard that can transform an offense. It doesn't happen until him. Would Baker take him over skinny D.Ward. Who knows?
Hindsight is 20/20 lots of “generational” talents have been passed on.
Ward is great and this thread is pointless -
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Nelson is a generational talent. Just watch the way he run blocks. He was the exception to rule in terms of drafting OL. A guard that can transform an offense. It doesn't happen until him. Would Baker take him over skinny D.Ward. Who knows?
Hindsight is 20/20 lots of “generational” talents have been passed on.
Ward is great and this thread is pointlessHindsight is 20/20 lots of “generational” talents have been passed on.
Ward is great and this thread is pointlessMost threads are pointless. Healthy Ward is great. Nelson should be elite for 12-15 years. Ward at age 30 at his size might be finished.
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Hindsight is 20/20 lots of “generational” talents have been passed on.
Ward is great and this thread is pointlessMost threads are pointless. Healthy Ward is great. Nelson should be elite for 12-15 years. Ward at age 30 at his size might be finished.
Most threads are pointless. Healthy Ward is great. Nelson should be elite for 12-15 years. Ward at age 30 at his size might be finished.
OK, well....Trivia Question: How many offensive Guards have been taken with the overall #1 pick in the draft since the drafts inception in 1936?
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Hindsight is 20/20 lots of “generational” talents have been passed on.
Ward is great and this thread is pointlessMost threads are pointless. Healthy Ward is great. Nelson should be elite for 12-15 years. Ward at age 30 at his size might be finished.
Most threads are pointless. Healthy Ward is great. Nelson should be elite for 12-15 years. Ward at age 30 at his size might be finished.
Gee I didn’t realize Ward was gonna stay the same size his whole career
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What is your point? Nelson is a great player. The Colts certainly are not going to be giving him up.
Just bringing up a debate. Nelson or Mayfield. Maybe it's obvious Mayfield. I think Nelson transforms the culture of the franchise like he did the Colts. They went from worst to first in pass-protection in one year. They run at will. Nelson is a major player in the NFL. Denzel Ward was always undersized. Nelson easily over Ward and maybe Mayfield. He was projected to dominate and had tape to back it up. Am I wrong?
Just bringing up a debate. Nelson or Mayfield. Maybe it's obvious Mayfield. I think Nelson transforms the culture of the franchise like he did the Colts. They went from worst to first in pass-protection in one year. They run at will. Nelson is a major player in the NFL. Denzel Ward was always undersized. Nelson easily over Ward and maybe Mayfield. He was projected to dominate and had tape to back it up. Am I wrong?
What debate? I don't remember you announcing you wanted Quentin Nelson at #1 overall or #4 overall until this bout of hindsight 20/20.
LT is even more important than LG in this era; and Joe Thomas played in how many Playoff Games because of our QB position?
When I think of where we need to upgrade on our Offensive Line - I don't begin with LG Joel Bitonio.
Our defense was also pretty talent deprived at covering people in the back end before Denzel Ward was selected at #4. FWIW, his blocked FG against the Rats was the difference between winning and losing to the Rats.
Sometimes you have to wait longer than a guy's first 22 regular season games before you make conclusions about his career.
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There've been maybe two "generational" OGs in the modern era... Steve Hutchinson and John Hannah... plus a handphul oph runnerups...
Nelson may well be a 3rd, but he has a ffffffffffffew more years of excelling to go.
Welcome back "f" key...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
There've been maybe two "generational" OGs in the modern era... Steve Hutchinson and John Hannah... plus a handphul oph runnerups...
Nelson may well be a 3rd, but he has a ffffffffffffew more years of excelling to go.
Welcome back "f" key...
There've been maybe two "generational" OGs in the modern era... Steve Hutchinson and John Hannah... plus a handphul oph runnerups...
Nelson may well be a 3rd, but he has a ffffffffffffew more years of excelling to go.
Welcome back "f" key...
There was another Notre Dame OG that has gotten as much praise as Nelso: Zach Martin.
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There've been maybe two "generational" OGs in the modern era... Steve Hutchinson and John Hannah... plus a handphul oph runnerups...
Nelson may well be a 3rd, but he has a ffffffffffffew more years of excelling to go.
Welcome back "f" key...
There've been maybe two "generational" OGs in the modern era... Steve Hutchinson and John Hannah... plus a handphul oph runnerups...
Nelson may well be a 3rd, but he has a ffffffffffffew more years of excelling to go.
Welcome back "f" key...
You brought up Hutchinson and Hannah for a reason. Nelson was that guy in the womb. Born destroyer and his college tape bore that out. He's special and just watch the rest of his career play out. O-Lineman like him happen once a decade, maybe. First or fourth pick, he would have been a steal.
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Are you gonna cry over it or something?
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OP, you aren't understanding people's point. Nelson could end up being great, generational guy, but at that time wasn't the teams biggest need.
And just because someone is a generational talent doesn't mean you take him. If the Dolphins select Tua next draft and he plays well and they have the opportunity, should they then draft Trevor Lawrence?
But Baker ( no matter what you think of him) doesn't belong in this discussion. Not just because he plays the most important position in sports, but because the Browns could have had Baker AND Nelson, there is no either/or
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