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  • We both know Ohio did not " get rid of them" we also know these are not people that reflect the values of Ohio. 

  • Ok. I have the Browns going 7-2 the rest of the way. This could lead to the wild card. To me there are some huge keys:

    1) They MUST win the Buffalo game. 

    2) I have them spitting with Pittsburg. If they sweep, 8-1 is a real possibility.

    3) I know Baltimore is a sore subject but they are a much better team right now. If Lamar Jackson is healthy , that seems like a tough match up.

    Chin up guys. This thing can really happen. BTW, we hired a brand new coach. It usually takes a few years of mistakes to hit your stride. The never ending revolving door has to stop. It is time for OJT. He makes mistakes but I think he will learn from those like  Belichick and Carroll

  • I am a homer I see 8-1 the rest of the way and see how many people are still calling for kitchens to be fired. 

  • I am a homer I see 8-1 the rest of the way and see how many people are still calling for kitchens to be fired. 

    @jjmac28 said:

    I am a homer I see 8-1 the rest of the way and see how many people are still calling for kitchens to be fired. 

    Thanks for the response. Who do you have them losing to?

  • Picking any game is virtually impossible given the fact that can’t get out of our own way.  

    After that disgusting Seahawk game I thought we would clean it up.  Instead we spent the bye week focused on a left tackle spot.

  • Picking any game is virtually impossible given the fact that can’t get out of our own way.  

    After that disgusting Seahawk game I thought we would clean it up.  Instead we spent the bye week focused on a left tackle spot.

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Picking any game is virtually impossible given the fact that can’t get out of our own way.  

    After that disgusting Seahawk game I thought we would clean it up.  Instead we spent the bye week focused on a left tackle spot.

    Yeah, I have a hunch they are about to put it together. Seattle should have been a win. I live in Seattle. That is the worst 6-2 team I have ever seen. The Hawks can't stop the run. Cleveland needs to punch people in the mouth and play power football.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Picking any game is virtually impossible given the fact that can’t get out of our own way.  

    After that disgusting Seahawk game I thought we would clean it up.  Instead we spent the bye week focused on a left tackle spot.

    Yeah, I have a hunch they are about to put it together. Seattle should have been a win. I live in Seattle. That is the worst 6-2 team I have ever seen. The Hawks can't stop the run. Cleveland needs to punch people in the mouth and play power football.

    @coachtoad said:

    Yeah, I have a hunch they are about to put it together. Seattle should have been a win. I live in Seattle. That is the worst 6-2 team I have ever seen. The Hawks can't stop the run. Cleveland needs to punch people in the mouth and play power football.

    You are right. And SF is gonna roll them.  I wouldn’t be shocked if they finish with 8 wins 

    But We will continue to play empty set and put Hilliard out wide and let Harris and Callaway be focal points of our offense.

    I don’t know if we have the intelligence to realize our strengths at this point.  Its baker handing off to Chubb with an occasional play-action and the quick stuff to Landry and OBJ.  Present time, Baker is game manager should be a game manager.  

    We have arguably the best back in football and our first four plays in a driving rain are pass plays.  Of course We don’t execute well enough to overcome this stupidity and we compound the stupidity by doing other dumb things on the field. 

  • We both know Ohio did not " get rid of them" we also know these are not people that reflect the values of Ohio. 

    @coachtoad said:

    We both know Ohio did not " get rid of them" we also know these are not people that reflect the values of Ohio. 

    They left Ohio to kill people in other states.  Thank goodness.  But you all can thank Utah for Gary Ridgway.

  • Ok. I have the Browns going 7-2 the rest of the way. This could lead to the wild card. To me there are some huge keys:

    1) They MUST win the Buffalo game. 

    2) I have them spitting with Pittsburg. If they sweep, 8-1 is a real possibility.

    3) I know Baltimore is a sore subject but they are a much better team right now. If Lamar Jackson is healthy , that seems like a tough match up.

    Chin up guys. This thing can really happen. BTW, we hired a brand new coach. It usually takes a few years of mistakes to hit your stride. The never ending revolving door has to stop. It is time for OJT. He makes mistakes but I think he will learn from those like  Belichick and Carroll

    @coachtoad said:

    Ok. I have the Browns going 7-2 the rest of the way. This could lead to the wild card. To me there are some huge keys:

    1) They MUST win the Buffalo game. 

    2) I have them spitting with Pittsburg. If they sweep, 8-1 is a real possibility.

    3) I know Baltimore is a sore subject but they are a much better team right now. If Lamar Jackson is healthy , that seems like a tough match up.

    There is completely no evidence of that....in fact the opposite is true.  The Brown crushed the RFs in their meeting just a few weeks ago.

    Chin up guys. This thing can really happen. BTW, we hired a brand new coach. It usually takes a few years of mistakes to hit your stride. The never ending revolving door has to stop. It is time for OJT. He makes mistakes but I think he will learn from those like  Belichick and Carroll

  • @coachtoad said:

    Yeah, I have a hunch they are about to put it together. Seattle should have been a win. I live in Seattle. That is the worst 6-2 team I have ever seen. The Hawks can't stop the run. Cleveland needs to punch people in the mouth and play power football.

    You are right. And SF is gonna roll them.  I wouldn’t be shocked if they finish with 8 wins 

    But We will continue to play empty set and put Hilliard out wide and let Harris and Callaway be focal points of our offense.

    I don’t know if we have the intelligence to realize our strengths at this point.  Its baker handing off to Chubb with an occasional play-action and the quick stuff to Landry and OBJ.  Present time, Baker is game manager should be a game manager.  

    We have arguably the best back in football and our first four plays in a driving rain are pass plays.  Of course We don’t execute well enough to overcome this stupidity and we compound the stupidity by doing other dumb things on the field. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    You are right. And SF is gonna roll them.  I wouldn’t be shocked if they finish with 8 wins 

    But We will continue to play empty set and put Hilliard out wide and let Harris and Callaway be focal points of our offense.

    I don’t know if we have the intelligence to realize our strengths at this point.  Its baker handing off to Chubb with an occasional play-action and the quick stuff to Landry and OBJ.  Present time, Baker is game manager should be a game manager.  

    We have arguably the best back in football and our first four plays in a driving rain are pass plays.  Of course We don’t execute well enough to overcome this stupidity and we compound the stupidity by doing other dumb things on the field. 

    its the little things....even when i played ball our coach always told us, you have to be alert...on that long run fumble by chubb..we had 3 guys running down the field with chubb...not a one of them ever looked back at the pursuing defenders running him down...they were all looking at either chubb or the endzone...they should have been looking back and at least get in there way...you don't even have to hit anyone.....slow em down....i wonder if any of them  yelled at chubb to watch behind him.....little things...

  • @coachtoad said:

    Ok. I have the Browns going 7-2 the rest of the way. This could lead to the wild card. To me there are some huge keys:

    1) They MUST win the Buffalo game. 

    2) I have them spitting with Pittsburg. If they sweep, 8-1 is a real possibility.

    3) I know Baltimore is a sore subject but they are a much better team right now. If Lamar Jackson is healthy , that seems like a tough match up.

    There is completely no evidence of that....in fact the opposite is true.  The Brown crushed the RFs in their meeting just a few weeks ago.

    Chin up guys. This thing can really happen. BTW, we hired a brand new coach. It usually takes a few years of mistakes to hit your stride. The never ending revolving door has to stop. It is time for OJT. He makes mistakes but I think he will learn from those like  Belichick and Carroll

    @the-gipper said:

    I hope you are right Gipper. It would be great if they went 9-0. Like I said, it is just a hunch. In the NFL there are very few sure things.

  • @coachtoad said:

    We both know Ohio did not " get rid of them" we also know these are not people that reflect the values of Ohio. 

    They left Ohio to kill people in other states.  Thank goodness.  But you all can thank Utah for Gary Ridgway.

    @the-gipper said:

    They left Ohio to kill people in other states.  Thank goodness.  But you all can thank Utah for Gary Ridgway.

    Gipper, Gary Ridgeway was sick and killed people in Washington. He was born and raised here. You might be thinking of Ted Bundy. Both sick people that I would not blame any state for creating. I knew one of Ridgeway's victims. Dave Reichert who caught him became my congressman.

  • In before the lock!!!

  • Yes, Browns are miserable. We know this. We know this every year. Only difference this year was that we somehow thought we'd be good. And we all feel incredibly stupid, and we've learned our lesson. The funny thing is, that easy schedule we thought was coming, now doesn't look easy. It looks like 5-11, a new freaking coach (which is the worst), another new offensive system, and possibly a new QB before too long because ours literally can't throw more touchdowns than INTs. 

    Our QB has 6 TD passes through 7 games. That's hysterical. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Yes, Browns are miserable. We know this. We know this every year. Only difference this year was that we somehow thought we'd be good. And we all feel incredibly stupid, and we've learned our lesson. The funny thing is, that easy schedule we thought was coming, now doesn't look easy. It looks like 5-11, a new freaking coach (which is the worst), another new offensive system, and possibly a new QB before too long because ours literally can't throw more touchdowns than INTs. 

    Our QB has 6 TD passes through 7 games. That's hysterical. 

    and only 1 td to odell...how does that happen.....i am not sure freddy comes around....he just looks....eh.....bad and lost.....like jeez, i thought i did not have to teach these guys discipline....i think if letterman was still around he'd have a segment called stupid football tricks to go with his stupid pet tricks...referring to the clowns of cleveland...

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Yes, Browns are miserable. We know this. We know this every year. Only difference this year was that we somehow thought we'd be good. And we all feel incredibly stupid, and we've learned our lesson. The funny thing is, that easy schedule we thought was coming, now doesn't look easy. It looks like 5-11, a new freaking coach (which is the worst), another new offensive system, and possibly a new QB before too long because ours literally can't throw more touchdowns than INTs. 

    Our QB has 6 TD passes through 7 games. That's hysterical. 

    and only 1 td to odell...how does that happen.....i am not sure freddy comes around....he just looks....eh.....bad and lost.....like jeez, i thought i did not have to teach these guys discipline....i think if letterman was still around he'd have a segment called stupid football tricks to go with his stupid pet tricks...referring to the clowns of cleveland...

    @browns52 said:

    and only 1 td to odell...how does that happen.....i am not sure freddy comes around....he just looks....eh.....bad and lost.....like jeez, i thought i did not have to teach these guys discipline....i think if letterman was still around he'd have a segment called stupid football tricks to go with his stupid pet tricks...referring to the clowns of cleveland...

    I know man, it's really frustrating and nobody has answers. What makes me the most upset isn't the losing, it's the world laughing at us. I'm tired of hearing "Same old Browns" and "You'll never guess how badly the Browns screwed up now." 

    What's really disheartening is some of the freak crap that is happening. I mean, a foot hitting the ball from our RB that bounces directly to the defender for a TD? Has that shit EVER happened to us? Nick Chubb makes a great run but can't secure the ball AGAIN? He doesn't fumble all last year but somehow he's losing it every other down? It's maddening and I don't know how to stop it. You can't tell your guys not to fumble. They know that. You can't say "don't do a false start". We know that too. Maybe this is just who we are? I certainly HOPE not, but I can't explain not being able to get the ball to OBJ. He literally looks exactly like Ratley out there. There's hardly any difference, save one nice catch. Is that OBJ or Baker? Freddy's fault? Who knows. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    They left Ohio to kill people in other states.  Thank goodness.  But you all can thank Utah for Gary Ridgway.

    Gipper, Gary Ridgeway was sick and killed people in Washington. He was born and raised here. You might be thinking of Ted Bundy. Both sick people that I would not blame any state for creating. I knew one of Ridgeway's victims. Dave Reichert who caught him became my congressman.

    @coachtoad said:

    Gipper, Gary Ridgeway was sick and killed people in Washington. He was born and raised here. You might be thinking of Ted Bundy. Both sick people that I would not blame any state for creating. I knew one of Ridgeway's victims. Dave Reichert who caught him became my congressman.

    According to my research, Ridgway was from Utah.....and maybe moved to Washington.:

    Gary Leon Ridgway was born on February 18, 1949, in Salt Lake City, Utah, the second of Mary and Thomas Ridgway's three sons. His home life was somewhat troubled; relatives have described his mother as domineering and have said that, while young, he witnessed more than one violent argument between his parents. His father was a bus driver who would often complain about the presence of sex workers.[4]

    Ridgway had a bed-wetting problem until he was 13,[5] and his mother would wash his genitals after every episode.[6] He would later tell defense psychologists that, as an adolescent, he had conflicting feelings of anger and sexual attraction toward his mother, and fantasized about killing her.[5][6]

    Ridgway is dyslexic, and was held back a year in high school.[4] When he was 16, he stabbed a six-year-old boy who survived the attack. Ridgway had led the boy into the woods and then stabbed him through the ribs into hisliver.[7]

    Ridgway's IQ was recorded as being in the "low eighties".[8]

    Adult life

    Ridgway graduated from Tyee High School in SeaTac Washington.   

    (It doesn't say when the family moved to Washington)

  • @coachtoad said:

    Gipper, Gary Ridgeway was sick and killed people in Washington. He was born and raised here. You might be thinking of Ted Bundy. Both sick people that I would not blame any state for creating. I knew one of Ridgeway's victims. Dave Reichert who caught him became my congressman.

    According to my research, Ridgway was from Utah.....and maybe moved to Washington.:

    Gary Leon Ridgway was born on February 18, 1949, in Salt Lake City, Utah, the second of Mary and Thomas Ridgway's three sons. His home life was somewhat troubled; relatives have described his mother as domineering and have said that, while young, he witnessed more than one violent argument between his parents. His father was a bus driver who would often complain about the presence of sex workers.[4]

    Ridgway had a bed-wetting problem until he was 13,[5] and his mother would wash his genitals after every episode.[6] He would later tell defense psychologists that, as an adolescent, he had conflicting feelings of anger and sexual attraction toward his mother, and fantasized about killing her.[5][6]

    Ridgway is dyslexic, and was held back a year in high school.[4] When he was 16, he stabbed a six-year-old boy who survived the attack. Ridgway had led the boy into the woods and then stabbed him through the ribs into hisliver.[7]

    Ridgway's IQ was recorded as being in the "low eighties".[8]

    Adult life

    Ridgway graduated from Tyee High School in SeaTac Washington.   

    (It doesn't say when the family moved to Washington)

    @the-gipper said:

    According to my research, Ridgway was from Utah.....and maybe moved to Washington.:

    Gary Leon Ridgway was born on February 18, 1949, in Salt Lake City, Utah, the second of Mary and Thomas Ridgway's three sons. His home life was somewhat troubled; relatives have described his mother as domineering and have said that, while young, he witnessed more than one violent argument between his parents. His father was a bus driver who would often complain about the presence of sex workers.[4]

    Ridgway had a bed-wetting problem until he was 13,[5] and his mother would wash his genitals after every episode.[6] He would later tell defense psychologists that, as an adolescent, he had conflicting feelings of anger and sexual attraction toward his mother, and fantasized about killing her.[5][6]

    Ridgway is dyslexic, and was held back a year in high school.[4] When he was 16, he stabbed a six-year-old boy who survived the attack. Ridgway had led the boy into the woods and then stabbed him through the ribs into hisliver.[7]

    Ridgway's IQ was recorded as being in the "low eighties".[8]

    Adult life

    Ridgway graduated from Tyee High School in SeaTac Washington.   

    (It doesn't say when the family moved to Washington)

    He went to HS in Washington and worked at Paccar in Renton. I got a buddy that went to HS with him and is next to him in his HS year book. I also know folks thst worked with him at Paccar. They said he was a weirdo.

  • A week ago I was close to where the OP is here, but now... not so much.

    7-2 just won't be good enough for a WC spot and I no longer think we have 8-1 in us.

    Plus TBH 7-2 looks like a dream as well...

  • 1. I'll go on record again and say that the Browns will finish 8-8 tops. 

    2. Who the hell are all these new guys on this board? 

  • A week ago I was close to where the OP is here, but now... not so much.

    7-2 just won't be good enough for a WC spot and I no longer think we have 8-1 in us.

    Plus TBH 7-2 looks like a dream as well...

    @tour2ma said:

    A week ago I was close to where the OP is here, but now... not so much.

    7-2 just won't be good enough for a WC spot and I no longer think we have 8-1 in us.

    Plus TBH 7-2 looks like a dream as well...

    If they go  7-2, it could certainly challenge for a WC spot....if not even the division.  Not that they would absolutely make it...but challenge they would.