Baker attacks Cleveland media, walks out
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Well I knew this would be decisive, and I totally respect everyone's opinion. For me, I'm glad Baker essentially told that grumpy S.O.B. to piss off. For far too long he's had to endure this crappy line of questioning from shitty reporters, and you know what...he shouldn't HAVE to answer a question like, "Was it disappointing not to score?" Give me a break.
One thing I'll say about Baker is that if he feels slighted by a person, he will never let them back in. He holds a grudge longer than my wife and perhaps he should grow up, but perhaps that's who he is. The good news is that winning will stop this nonsense, and they get a chance to move forward Sunday.
Well I knew this would be decisive, and I totally respect everyone's opinion. For me, I'm glad Baker essentially told that grumpy S.O.B. to piss off. For far too long he's had to endure this crappy line of questioning from shitty reporters, and you know what...he shouldn't HAVE to answer a question like, "Was it disappointing not to score?" Give me a break.
One thing I'll say about Baker is that if he feels slighted by a person, he will never let them back in. He holds a grudge longer than my wife and perhaps he should grow up, but perhaps that's who he is. The good news is that winning will stop this nonsense, and they get a chance to move forward Sunday.
Winning always cures a lot of bad things. -but-. good luck in snowy and cold DDDDenver.
Continued losing perpectuates losing.
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That is spoken like a guy that has not coached successfully. The QB needs to be a leader. QBs that have toxic attitudes don't help their teams win. The word is out on Mayfield. It really does not matter if you or I have a problem with it.
It also doesn't matter if you or I misinterpret the situation....or if you and I think we know better...but do not know better. Or if we have coached successfully or not.
This guy is a different cat. He does not and he does not have to play by what you think should be the rules. Your perception is irrelevent. Only his "I hate to lose attitude" is what matters. And that is ALL that is on display here.
When his team sees him panic and act unhinged, they lose confidence.
Or, if they see him get angry over losing, and at not tolerating ridiculous, moronic questions...perhaps they gain confidence.
If you ever boxed much and hit someone hard right on the chin and they look at you and smile, you know you are in for a long night. Baker has to get tough.
He is tough enough....not sure some of the rest of the team is.
Baker needs to grow up. No sure things in the NFL.
But one thing is for sure: people will come on here with their bombastic, judgmental, erroneous opinions
Look at his numbers. Look at the wins. He needs to win then he is eccentric. Until then he is just a panic filled douche. Winners don't act like that. You are so used to losing , you don't know the difference. His team sees him coming unhinged. He has thrown twice as many pics as TDs and only won 2 games this year. What the hell has he done to be so arrogant. Oh that's right. It is panic, fear, not arrogance.
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And it is YOUR problem to deal with it. Not his.
I don't recall storming off after someone asked me a question today... so apparently it is HIS problem, not mine.
But "HIS EDGE IS WHAT MAKES BAKER, BAKER" is an awesome comeback. Well his edge has him as one of the worst starting QBs in the NFL right now.
I don't recall storming off after someone asked me a question today... so apparently it is HIS problem, not mine.
But "HIS EDGE IS WHAT MAKES BAKER, BAKER" is an awesome comeback. Well his edge has him as one of the worst starting QBs in the NFL right now.
No...it is NOT his problem. Not at all. You are one (among others) with your panties in a bunch over it. Baker does not have to deal with your panties. Those are your problem. You can either walk around with panties up your crack, or reach down and straighten them out...or go commando. Whatever you choose, I suspect Baker could care less. And it is not his edge that has him playing poorly...it is many other factors.
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I don't have a single problem with what Charles Manson did. What he did is what he does. It's just Charlie being Charlie. Otherwise he would be a phony. Dude really?
Well, you are a dick for comparing what Mayfield did with what Manson did. But I don't have a problem if you want to be a dick: However, you are one fucked up Dude if you do not have a problem with what Manson did.
Seriously, think about what you say sometimes.
Well, you are a dick for comparing what Mayfield did with what Manson did. But I don't have a problem if you want to be a dick: However, you are one fucked up Dude if you do not have a problem with what Manson did.
Seriously, think about what you say sometimes.
The point is people's actions have consequences. You can't just say that is them being them and that magically makes it ok. If your behaviour is bad for your team you need to knock it off. C'mon man. Really?
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Well, Baker is somewhat of a douchebag with thin skin, sooooooo you are technically right.
And it is YOUR problem to deal with it. Not his.
And it is YOUR problem to deal with it. Not his.
BTW, Kitchens called and wants to know if you are going to continue to be his personal trainer.
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Look at his numbers. Look at the wins. He needs to win then he is eccentric. Until then he is just a panic filled douche. Winners don't act like that. You are so used to losing , you don't know the difference. His team sees him coming unhinged. He has thrown twice as many pics as TDs and only won 2 games this year. What the hell has he done to be so arrogant. Oh that's right. It is panic, fear, not arrogance.
Look at his numbers. Look at the wins. He needs to win then he is eccentric. Until then he is just a panic filled douche.
That is just ignorant. The same behavior is eccentric if you win, and douche if you lose. Explain that. It is the SAME fucking behavior....it is just your attitude toward it that differs. Do you really think that Baker acting like a choir boy will cause him to win more better? It won't.
Winners don't act like that.
Actually, many of them do. Many of them. The difference is you excuse the behavior because of the wins.
You are so used to losing , you don't know the difference.
I haven't lost in a sporting event in a game since High School.
His team sees him coming unhinged.
You don't know that. Again, that is just your biased perception that you are placing on these events. What you are saying is that every QB, every player that expresses his hate for losing is coming unhinged. I hope he stays unhinged for the rest of the year...because that will mean he will still hate losing. When he discontinues his hate for losing...THEN is when we have to worry about him.
He has thrown twice as many pics as TDs and only won 2 games this year. What the hell has he done to be so arrogant. Oh that's right. It is panic, fear, not arrogance.
Well, again, there it is, your misperception: despite losing, he still may have confidence. Again, just like above, if he loses that arrogance, then he will lose what makes him capable. And it is not panic and fear perhaps...but just, again, hate of losing. Just because the coaching and the OL and some other aspects of the game around him are poor, does not mean that a player should give up his confidence in himself. What he needs to do is to NOT give up the arrogance.....but to be more self aware and self analytical of himself to be aware of the errors and mistakes that he has in his game, and to attempt to correct those. It would also make a difference if he had some help...from his coaching. That, to me, is a far greater factor than his arrogance, and his hate of losing.
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Well, you are a dick for comparing what Mayfield did with what Manson did. But I don't have a problem if you want to be a dick: However, you are one fucked up Dude if you do not have a problem with what Manson did.
Seriously, think about what you say sometimes.
The point is people's actions have consequences. You can't just say that is them being them and that magically makes it ok. If your behaviour is bad for your team you need to knock it off. C'mon man. Really?
The point is people's actions have consequences. You can't just say that is them being them and that magically makes it ok. If your behaviour is bad for your team you need to knock it off. C'mon man. Really?
But THIS behavior is NOT hurting the team. Being complacent about losing would not help this team. You all want him to be some kind of dullard in the face of adversity. You apparently would have wanted us to give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. (forget it, I'm on a roll). If you want us Browns fans to advocate that our players put their tails between their legs and give up on this season...you have come to the wrong place.
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And it is YOUR problem to deal with it. Not his.
BTW, Kitchens called and wants to know if you are going to continue to be his personal trainer.
BTW, Kitchens called and wants to know if you are going to continue to be his personal trainer.
Not sure where you are coming up with this, as it seems a total non sequitor, even as some effort at parallelisn, because that is not my problem to deal with.
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Look at his numbers. Look at the wins. He needs to win then he is eccentric. Until then he is just a panic filled douche.
That is just ignorant. The same behavior is eccentric if you win, and douche if you lose. Explain that. It is the SAME fucking behavior....it is just your attitude toward it that differs. Do you really think that Baker acting like a choir boy will cause him to win more better? It won't.
Winners don't act like that.
Actually, many of them do. Many of them. The difference is you excuse the behavior because of the wins.
You are so used to losing , you don't know the difference.
I haven't lost in a sporting event in a game since High School.
His team sees him coming unhinged.
You don't know that. Again, that is just your biased perception that you are placing on these events. What you are saying is that every QB, every player that expresses his hate for losing is coming unhinged. I hope he stays unhinged for the rest of the year...because that will mean he will still hate losing. When he discontinues his hate for losing...THEN is when we have to worry about him.
He has thrown twice as many pics as TDs and only won 2 games this year. What the hell has he done to be so arrogant. Oh that's right. It is panic, fear, not arrogance.
Well, again, there it is, your misperception: despite losing, he still may have confidence. Again, just like above, if he loses that arrogance, then he will lose what makes him capable. And it is not panic and fear perhaps...but just, again, hate of losing. Just because the coaching and the OL and some other aspects of the game around him are poor, does not mean that a player should give up his confidence in himself. What he needs to do is to NOT give up the arrogance.....but to be more self aware and self analytical of himself to be aware of the errors and mistakes that he has in his game, and to attempt to correct those. It would also make a difference if he had some help...from his coaching. That, to me, is a far greater factor than his arrogance, and his hate of losing.
Ok. I have coached arhletes for 30 years. This is Ryan Leaf, Jeff George behaviour. I gaurantee you his team is wondering and worried about him. You are way out on a limb. You honestly believe this is productive behaviour? That is a ridiculous position. Find me a winning coach that agrees that this is good behaviour for him and his team right now. The rats are ready to leave the ship. He needs to be calm and confident. He acts and is playing in panic mode.
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BTW, Kitchens called and wants to know if you are going to continue to be his personal trainer.
Not sure where you are coming up with this, as it seems a total non sequitor, even as some effort at parallelisn, because that is not my problem to deal with.
Not sure where you are coming up with this, as it seems a total non sequitor, even as some effort at parallelisn, because that is not my problem to deal with.
Lol. I know about your gym beast ways!
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The point is people's actions have consequences. You can't just say that is them being them and that magically makes it ok. If your behaviour is bad for your team you need to knock it off. C'mon man. Really?
But THIS behavior is NOT hurting the team. Being complacent about losing would not help this team. You all want him to be some kind of dullard in the face of adversity. You apparently would have wanted us to give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. (forget it, I'm on a roll). If you want us Browns fans to advocate that our players put their tails between their legs and give up on this season...you have come to the wrong place.
But THIS behavior is NOT hurting the team. Being complacent about losing would not help this team. You all want him to be some kind of dullard in the face of adversity. You apparently would have wanted us to give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. (forget it, I'm on a roll). If you want us Browns fans to advocate that our players put their tails between their legs and give up on this season...you have come to the wrong place.
You are right. They have been awesome! Great point! These guys are being led to the promsed land. We need more Mayfield magic.
You act like your team needs you to. That is not being complacent. That is being an adult and a good teammate.
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I don't recall storming off after someone asked me a question today... so apparently it is HIS problem, not mine.
But "HIS EDGE IS WHAT MAKES BAKER, BAKER" is an awesome comeback. Well his edge has him as one of the worst starting QBs in the NFL right now.
No...it is NOT his problem. Not at all. You are one (among others) with your panties in a bunch over it. Baker does not have to deal with your panties. Those are your problem. You can either walk around with panties up your crack, or reach down and straighten them out...or go commando. Whatever you choose, I suspect Baker could care less. And it is not his edge that has him playing poorly...it is many other factors.
Whatever you choose, I suspect Baker could care less.
He could care less? Like if he really tried, he could care more?
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Ok. I have coached arhletes for 30 years. This is Ryan Leaf, Jeff George behaviour. I gaurantee you his team is wondering and worried about him. You are way out on a limb. You honestly believe this is productive behaviour? That is a ridiculous position. Find me a winning coach that agrees that this is good behaviour for him and his team right now. The rats are ready to leave the ship. He needs to be calm and confident. He acts and is playing in panic mode.
Ok. I have coached arhletes for 30 years.
Which don't mean shite to us.
This is Ryan Leaf, Jeff George behaviour. I gaurantee you his team is wondering and worried about him.
Guarantee? Show any comments by any Browns player where they say that.
You are way out on a limb. You honestly believe this is productive behaviour? That is a ridiculous position.
I don't know if it is productive: being smarter at executing would be something that would be productive behavior. But your apparent believe that he expressing a disdain for losing is unproductive behavior is ridiculous, and the attitude of a loser. (I suppose your coaching record with that attitude must have rivalled Bert Bell and Hue Jackson's records)
Find me a winning coach that agrees that this is good behaviour for him and his team right now.
Well....we will have to find that winning coach elsewhere, now won't we. Find me a winning coach that feels it is OK for his players to be complacent about losing.....and...well...you won't find one.
The rats are ready to leave the ship. He needs to be calm and confident. He acts and is playing in panic mode.
Well...YOU are conflating two things. Any team that gets behind by 17 points has to go into panic mode if the expect to come back. After all those early mistakes, it seems to me that he settled down pretty well and righted the ship. You again, confuse the need to be urgent due to adversity with your desire to have players be complacent about losing.
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Ok. I have coached arhletes for 30 years.
Which don't mean shite to us.
This is Ryan Leaf, Jeff George behaviour. I gaurantee you his team is wondering and worried about him.
Guarantee? Show any comments by any Browns player where they say that.
You are way out on a limb. You honestly believe this is productive behaviour? That is a ridiculous position.
I don't know if it is productive: being smarter at executing would be something that would be productive behavior. But your apparent believe that he expressing a disdain for losing is unproductive behavior is ridiculous, and the attitude of a loser. (I suppose your coaching record with that attitude must have rivalled Bert Bell and Hue Jackson's records)
Find me a winning coach that agrees that this is good behaviour for him and his team right now.
Well....we will have to find that winning coach elsewhere, now won't we. Find me a winning coach that feels it is OK for his players to be complacent about losing.....and...well...you won't find one.
The rats are ready to leave the ship. He needs to be calm and confident. He acts and is playing in panic mode.
Well...YOU are conflating two things. Any team that gets behind by 17 points has to go into panic mode if the expect to come back. After all those early mistakes, it seems to me that he settled down pretty well and righted the ship. You again, confuse the need to be urgent due to adversity with your desire to have players be complacent about losing.
If you cant' figure out the difference between complacency and team focused behaviour, then you don't know about leading athletes. You can't read that on a chart or stat sheet dude. You are really on an island on this. This is not fantasy football. This is about leadership.
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Whatever you choose, I suspect Baker could care less.
He could care less? Like if he really tried, he could care more?
He could care less? Like if he really tried, he could care more?
Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
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He could care less? Like if he really tried, he could care more?
Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
Exactly. You can be a Brown's fan and not like this behaviour. That does not make you disloyal. This is not productive.
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But THIS behavior is NOT hurting the team. Being complacent about losing would not help this team. You all want him to be some kind of dullard in the face of adversity. You apparently would have wanted us to give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. (forget it, I'm on a roll). If you want us Browns fans to advocate that our players put their tails between their legs and give up on this season...you have come to the wrong place.
You are right. They have been awesome! Great point! These guys are being led to the promsed land. We need more Mayfield magic.
You act like your team needs you to. That is not being complacent. That is being an adult and a good teammate.
You are right. They have been awesome! Great point! These guys are being led to the promsed land. We need more Mayfield magic.
You act like your team needs you to. That is not being complacent. That is being an adult and a good teammate.
You are one feculent fool, aren't you.
Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic. The kind that he has shown that he is capable of. Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.
And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.
Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But, Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others.
Baker just hates to lose. Savvy Ingles?
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Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
Exactly. You can be a Brown's fan and not like this behaviour. That does not make you disloyal. This is not productive.
Exactly. You can be a Brown's fan and not like this behaviour. That does not make you disloyal. This is not productive.
Too many people on this board equate being a homer with being a "true Browns fan".
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You are right. They have been awesome! Great point! These guys are being led to the promsed land. We need more Mayfield magic.
You act like your team needs you to. That is not being complacent. That is being an adult and a good teammate.
You are one feculent fool, aren't you.
Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic. The kind that he has shown that he is capable of. Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.
And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.
Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But, Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others.
Baker just hates to lose. Savvy Ingles?
You are one feculent fool, aren't you.
Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic. The kind that he has shown that he is capable of. Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.
And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.
Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But, Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others.
Baker just hates to lose. Savvy Ingles?
We all hate to lose. Your big words do not mean that you know how to lead arhletes. 1) I want the Browns to win. 2) I want Mayfield to be successful 3) i disagree with his recent behaviour and believe it is bad for the team.
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Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
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