Baker attacks Cleveland media, walks out
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Ok. I have coached arhletes for 30 years. This is Ryan Leaf, Jeff George behaviour. I gaurantee you his team is wondering and worried about him. You are way out on a limb. You honestly believe this is productive behaviour? That is a ridiculous position. Find me a winning coach that agrees that this is good behaviour for him and his team right now. The rats are ready to leave the ship. He needs to be calm and confident. He acts and is playing in panic mode.
Ok. I have coached arhletes for 30 years.
Which don't mean shite to us.
This is Ryan Leaf, Jeff George behaviour. I gaurantee you his team is wondering and worried about him.
Guarantee? Show any comments by any Browns player where they say that.
You are way out on a limb. You honestly believe this is productive behaviour? That is a ridiculous position.
I don't know if it is productive: being smarter at executing would be something that would be productive behavior. But your apparent believe that he expressing a disdain for losing is unproductive behavior is ridiculous, and the attitude of a loser. (I suppose your coaching record with that attitude must have rivalled Bert Bell and Hue Jackson's records)
Find me a winning coach that agrees that this is good behaviour for him and his team right now.
Well....we will have to find that winning coach elsewhere, now won't we. Find me a winning coach that feels it is OK for his players to be complacent about losing.....and...well...you won't find one.
The rats are ready to leave the ship. He needs to be calm and confident. He acts and is playing in panic mode.
Well...YOU are conflating two things. Any team that gets behind by 17 points has to go into panic mode if the expect to come back. After all those early mistakes, it seems to me that he settled down pretty well and righted the ship. You again, confuse the need to be urgent due to adversity with your desire to have players be complacent about losing.
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Ok. I have coached arhletes for 30 years.
Which don't mean shite to us.
This is Ryan Leaf, Jeff George behaviour. I gaurantee you his team is wondering and worried about him.
Guarantee? Show any comments by any Browns player where they say that.
You are way out on a limb. You honestly believe this is productive behaviour? That is a ridiculous position.
I don't know if it is productive: being smarter at executing would be something that would be productive behavior. But your apparent believe that he expressing a disdain for losing is unproductive behavior is ridiculous, and the attitude of a loser. (I suppose your coaching record with that attitude must have rivalled Bert Bell and Hue Jackson's records)
Find me a winning coach that agrees that this is good behaviour for him and his team right now.
Well....we will have to find that winning coach elsewhere, now won't we. Find me a winning coach that feels it is OK for his players to be complacent about losing.....and...well...you won't find one.
The rats are ready to leave the ship. He needs to be calm and confident. He acts and is playing in panic mode.
Well...YOU are conflating two things. Any team that gets behind by 17 points has to go into panic mode if the expect to come back. After all those early mistakes, it seems to me that he settled down pretty well and righted the ship. You again, confuse the need to be urgent due to adversity with your desire to have players be complacent about losing.
If you cant' figure out the difference between complacency and team focused behaviour, then you don't know about leading athletes. You can't read that on a chart or stat sheet dude. You are really on an island on this. This is not fantasy football. This is about leadership.
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Whatever you choose, I suspect Baker could care less.
He could care less? Like if he really tried, he could care more?
He could care less? Like if he really tried, he could care more?
Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
He could care less? Like if he really tried, he could care more?
Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
Exactly. You can be a Brown's fan and not like this behaviour. That does not make you disloyal. This is not productive.
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But THIS behavior is NOT hurting the team. Being complacent about losing would not help this team. You all want him to be some kind of dullard in the face of adversity. You apparently would have wanted us to give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. (forget it, I'm on a roll). If you want us Browns fans to advocate that our players put their tails between their legs and give up on this season...you have come to the wrong place.
You are right. They have been awesome! Great point! These guys are being led to the promsed land. We need more Mayfield magic.
You act like your team needs you to. That is not being complacent. That is being an adult and a good teammate.
You are right. They have been awesome! Great point! These guys are being led to the promsed land. We need more Mayfield magic.
You act like your team needs you to. That is not being complacent. That is being an adult and a good teammate.
You are one feculent fool, aren't you.
Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic. The kind that he has shown that he is capable of. Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.
And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.
Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But, Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others.
Baker just hates to lose. Savvy Ingles?
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Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
Exactly. You can be a Brown's fan and not like this behaviour. That does not make you disloyal. This is not productive.
Exactly. You can be a Brown's fan and not like this behaviour. That does not make you disloyal. This is not productive.
Too many people on this board equate being a homer with being a "true Browns fan".
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You are right. They have been awesome! Great point! These guys are being led to the promsed land. We need more Mayfield magic.
You act like your team needs you to. That is not being complacent. That is being an adult and a good teammate.
You are one feculent fool, aren't you.
Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic. The kind that he has shown that he is capable of. Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.
And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.
Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But, Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others.
Baker just hates to lose. Savvy Ingles?
You are one feculent fool, aren't you.
Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic. The kind that he has shown that he is capable of. Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.
And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.
Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But, Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others.
Baker just hates to lose. Savvy Ingles?
We all hate to lose. Your big words do not mean that you know how to lead arhletes. 1) I want the Browns to win. 2) I want Mayfield to be successful 3) i disagree with his recent behaviour and believe it is bad for the team.
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Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
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Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
What can't be argued is that he can't seem to handle losing. His skin is paper-thin now.
Gipper is to busy with his thesaurus to inderstand that. He is setting his fantasy football lineup as we speak. He is all alone on an island. Wow.
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If you cant' figure out the difference between complacency and team focused behaviour, then you don't know about leading athletes. You can't read that on a chart or stat sheet dude. You are really on an island on this. This is not fantasy football. This is about leadership.
If you cant' figure out the difference between complacency and team focused behaviour, then you don't know about leading athletes. You can't read that on a chart or stat sheet dude. You are really on an island on this. This is not fantasy football. This is about leadership.
It IS about leadership. and yes, absolutely, this team needs to be more focused, and more disciplined. But that has fuck all to do with what Baker did in an interview.
Hating to lose is one form or leadership (better than the alternate that you apparently advocate). Like you said, you can't measure a player's heart on a chart or stat sheet. Baker's heart and his desire to win are first rate. (he does not have a Grinch sized heart that you apparently want). If he happens to show more passion and anger over losing....if he shows his emotions on his shirt sleeves, well, that is just his personality. But, apparently you prefer that he be Ben Stein like.
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He could care less? Like if he really tried, he could care more?
Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
Exactafucking mundo. All it takes is a winning streak. Play smarter, play better, execute properly. What it does NOT take is a directive to "subdue your passion for the game and subdue your disdain for losing". The exact same behavior would not even be an issue if they did not lose some of these games.
So, instead of saying to Baker: play and act robotically and unemotionally, tell him: eliminate the mistakes.....and have the coaches and the rest of the team help you there
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You are right. They have been awesome! Great point! These guys are being led to the promsed land. We need more Mayfield magic.
You act like your team needs you to. That is not being complacent. That is being an adult and a good teammate.
You are one feculent fool, aren't you.
Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic. The kind that he has shown that he is capable of. Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.
And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.
Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But, Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others.
Baker just hates to lose. Savvy Ingles?
You are one feculent fool, aren't you.
Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic. The kind that he has shown that he is capable of. Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.
Baker just hates to lose. Savvy Ingles?
I hope it's not like the fist quarter magic like in New England and spotting the best team in football a 17-0 lead...... just sayin'.
Si yo hablo un poco de Espanol......but I'm much better at Ingles. ¿Si como no? Eh?
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
You are one feculent fool, aren't you.
Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic. The kind that he has shown that he is capable of. Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.
And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.
Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But, Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others.
Baker just hates to lose. Savvy Ingles?
We all hate to lose. Your big words do not mean that you know how to lead arhletes. 1) I want the Browns to win. 2) I want Mayfield to be successful 3) i disagree with his recent behaviour and believe it is bad for the team.
We all hate to lose. Your big words do not mean that you know how to lead arhletes. 1) I want the Browns to win. 2) I want Mayfield to be successful 3) i disagree with his recent behaviour and believe it is bad for the team.
Well. the recent behavior that is bad for the team are the mistakes and the bad decisions that are made on the field. Walking out of an interview because of continuing moronic questioning is NOT the behavior that is bad for the team. (and really? big words? I don't know about that....but then, as a coach, you were apparently a jock. I guess I just concentrated more on academics such that normal parlance to me would constitue "big words" to you)
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If you cant' figure out the difference between complacency and team focused behaviour, then you don't know about leading athletes. You can't read that on a chart or stat sheet dude. You are really on an island on this. This is not fantasy football. This is about leadership.
It IS about leadership. and yes, absolutely, this team needs to be more focused, and more disciplined. But that has fuck all to do with what Baker did in an interview.
Hating to lose is one form or leadership (better than the alternate that you apparently advocate). Like you said, you can't measure a player's heart on a chart or stat sheet. Baker's heart and his desire to win are first rate. (he does not have a Grinch sized heart that you apparently want). If he happens to show more passion and anger over losing....if he shows his emotions on his shirt sleeves, well, that is just his personality. But, apparently you prefer that he be Ben Stein like.
It IS about leadership. and yes, absolutely, this team needs to be more focused, and more disciplined. But that has fuck all to do with what Baker did in an interview.
Hating to lose is one form or leadership (better than the alternate that you apparently advocate). Like you said, you can't measure a player's heart on a chart or stat sheet. Baker's heart and his desire to win are first rate. (he does not have a Grinch sized heart that you apparently want). If he happens to show more passion and anger over losing....if he shows his emotions on his shirt sleeves, well, that is just his personality. But, apparently you prefer that he be Ben Stein like.
You don't have a clue what I am advocating. I will give you a hint couch fan. 1) demonstrate confidence and accountability 2) live in the film room 3) be the 1st in the facility and last out every day 4) never lose your cool with the media in public. Always demonstrate control 5) never show up your team in public 6) hold your team accountable 7) Act like a winner, talk winning, preach winning until you win. ? love your teammates unconditionally.
To win you have to have a process that you execute. It is a result or consequence of circumstances that you create. It is not something that just happens.
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Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
Of course he isn't, but as I said, he is being excoriated for not suppressing his particular passion about it.
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Besides he probably had a Progressive photo shoot coming up and he was very nervous.
I've tried to look the other way on all of this "stuff" but it is getting hard(er) to do.
Only an immediate winning streak will put these flames out. Period.
Exactafucking mundo. All it takes is a winning streak. Play smarter, play better, execute properly. What it does NOT take is a directive to "subdue your passion for the game and subdue your disdain for losing". The exact same behavior would not even be an issue if they did not lose some of these games.
So, instead of saying to Baker: play and act robotically and unemotionally, tell him: eliminate the mistakes.....and have the coaches and the rest of the team help you there
Exactafucking mundo. All it takes is a winning streak. Play smarter, play better, execute properly. What it does NOT take is a directive to "subdue your passion for the game and subdue your disdain for losing". The exact same behavior would not even be an issue if they did not lose some of these games.
So, instead of saying to Baker: play and act robotically and unemotionally, tell him: eliminate the mistakes.....and have the coaches and the rest of the team help you there
Dude, read the post. He is saying Mayfield is acting like a bitch. It is true that a winning strwak will change perspectives. It is also true that his recent behavior will hurt the chances of that happening.
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Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
Losing your virginity is cool. When the time is right and with the right person of course. And even if it’s not it makes for a better story down the road.
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Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
What can't be argued is that he can't seem to handle losing. His skin is paper-thin now.
Gipper is to busy with his thesaurus to inderstand that. He is setting his fantasy football lineup as we speak. He is all alone on an island. Wow.
Gipper is to busy with his thesaurus to inderstand that. He is setting his fantasy football lineup as we speak. He is all alone on an island. Wow.
A. I don't need a thesaurus to write this way...it is just a function of education I guess. Ask anyone here. B. I have never played Fantasy Football. I have no use for it.
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Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
Of course he isn't, but as I said, he is being excoriated for not suppressing his particular passion about it.
Of course he isn't, but as I said, he is being excoriated for not suppressing his particular passion about it.
I don't think you are stupid. I think you are screwing around. You get the difference between passion and acting like a bitch right? How about he shows that passion in the film room
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Who the fuck likes to lose? What a stupid argument to make... like Baker is some kind of oddity who hates to lose.
Of course he isn't, but as I said, he is being excoriated for not suppressing his particular passion about it.
Of course he isn't, but as I said, he is being excoriated for not suppressing his particular passion about it.
Bullshit.
He's getting called out for acting like a six year old who takes his ball home when he doesn't get his way.
He's exactly the type of person who constantly tells the world "I am who I am and I speak my mind and if you don't like what I have to say then too bad" who throws a tantrum when someone does the same in return.
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