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  • @the-gipper said:

    A.  I don't need a thesaurus to write this way...it is just a function of education I guess.   Ask anyone here.  B. I have never played Fantasy Football.  I have no use for it.

    No offense but you lack street smarts on this topic. You obviously don't understand how to lead athletes or how a locker room needs to be understood. A team is a family. When they are good they love each other like family. When the family leader acts like a bitch and panics, it hurts the family. You can't see that from a coach man.

    @coachtoad said:

    No offense but you lack street smarts on this topic. You obviously don't understand how to lead athletes or how a locker room needs to be understood.

    I really do not think you do either.  If you are advocating that your players not be upset about losing.....then you are a shit coach.

    A team is a family. When they are good they love each other like family. When the family leader acts like a bitch and panics, it hurts the family. You can't see that from a coach man.

    Well, you apparently are not seeing it. Again, if you cannot see that BAker's teammates support him fully in his passionate disdain for losing...you are out of touch.  And if you think they don't have his back about giving up on an interview that just turned into a badgering session....you are out of touch there as well. 

    Now, why don't you quit making an ass out of yourself by assuming that you know what Baker's teammates think of him, and wait until you actually get the reaction of some of  his teammates.  

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well....sort of:   I see that I am speaking with passion, and that you are acting like a bitch. 

    And no, I don't think he should show passion in the film room.  I want him to be studious, intellectual attentive, and synthetical in there. (as I am being here for the most part) And by all reports he is exactly that.

    I obviously mean showing passion by living in the damn film room. Jesus dude. Have you ever actually played a sport? I know you are a big dude. Do you get out much?

    @coachtoad said:

    I obviously mean showing passion by living in the damn film room. Jesus dude. Have you ever actually played a sport? I know you are a big dude. Do you get out much?

    You know precisely how much time Baker spends watching film? 
    Mayfield is the franchise QB and anyone who has watched this team since 1999 knows it. It’s his team. He can literally do what he wants. Being 2-5 SUCKS. Baker gets that.

    I get the feeling his teammates don’t care if he doesn’t wanna deal with BS nonsense.

  • @the-gipper said:

    No shit Sherlock. You act as if you haven't seen Baker display his winning nature as a QB. Of course, everyone knows he cannot continue making the egregious mistakes that he has made in that game, ......and others.  

    Yes...... and others!

    So you admit that Baker has ongoing issues that's a good start for identifying the root cause of his problems.

    And my name isn't Sherlock, Michael or mjp or mj will work just fine for me.   😉

    @mjp28 said:

    Yes...... and others!

    So you admit that Baker has ongoing issues that's a good start for identifying the root cause of his problems.

    And my name isn't Sherlock, Michael or mjp or mj will work just fine for me.   😉

    Baker does have issues.....which we could dissect,   but basically, making mistakes, not seeing the field properly...and etc.  I certainly am not saying he doesn't have problems that need to be corrected.

    But hating to lose, and being passionate about that fact are NOT on the same planet of the causes of his problems. 

  • @coachtoad said:

    No offense but you lack street smarts on this topic. You obviously don't understand how to lead athletes or how a locker room needs to be understood.

    I really do not think you do either.  If you are advocating that your players not be upset about losing.....then you are a shit coach.

    A team is a family. When they are good they love each other like family. When the family leader acts like a bitch and panics, it hurts the family. You can't see that from a coach man.

    Well, you apparently are not seeing it. Again, if you cannot see that BAker's teammates support him fully in his passionate disdain for losing...you are out of touch.  And if you think they don't have his back about giving up on an interview that just turned into a badgering session....you are out of touch there as well. 

    Now, why don't you quit making an ass out of yourself by assuming that you know what Baker's teammates think of him, and wait until you actually get the reaction of some of  his teammates.  

    @the-gipper said:

    You are funny. Nice straw man. I teally want my players to want to lose. Where have you won? What coaching hall of fames are you in. Get your fat ass off the couch and learn something.i can show my work. Can you? That is the sound of the mic dropping.

  • @the-gipper said:

    OK, so the great cliche machine speaks.  Fine, of course those are the things you and every other peewee league coach can and has advocated.  Except for the shit you just made up.  (like never losing your cool with the media....you made that one up for purposes of THIS conversation.  I doubt you ever coached a team that ever even had media coverage) . 

    And to my mind, Baker exhibits all that.  Being in Seattle, and only just paying attention to the Browns here in the last week, I doubt seriously that you have even him much at all.  What you don't apparently like is that he vociferously exhibits his disdain for losing.

    And, I guess, if you can't handle that, as I said to Dutch, that is YOUR problem.

    I will simply close by  giving you the response that Baker gave:

    Everybody wants to hear the truth until they actually get it.... I am who I am and always have been. Don’t call it emotional when it’s convenient and then passion when it fits. I care about winning, so yeah I’m frustrated. If I was to act like it’s okay to lose, then y’all would say that I’ve gotten complacent. My sense of urgency is at an all time high. And if I offend anybody along the way... that’s too bad.

    So...bottom line...as Baker said:  if you don't like ...too bad

    Ok Gipper. I have been on both sides of media. Feel free to go to spotify and look up the Highline Bear's podCast. One of the episodes has my name and it is called for the love of white center.  I can give you many other examples of media I have done as well. It is about a 20 minute interview on baseball, community and leadership. You are probably a good guy but you don't know shit my friend.

    @coachtoad said:

    Ok Gipper. I have been on both sides of media. Feel free to go to spotify and look up the Highline Bear's podCast. One of the episodes has my name and it is called for the love of white center.  I can give you many other examples of media I have done as well. It is about a 20 minute interview on baseball, community and leadership. You are probably a good guy but you don't know shit my friend.

    I don't know shit about you.....and could care even less.  Whatever you may have ever done in your life,  podcasting, coaching, movie BS,  serial killer  (well...not really....that we know about 😁  does not give you insight into Baker Mayfield's personality nor what he coaches and teammates feel about him. 

  • @mjp28 said:

    Yes...... and others!

    So you admit that Baker has ongoing issues that's a good start for identifying the root cause of his problems.

    And my name isn't Sherlock, Michael or mjp or mj will work just fine for me.   😉

    Baker does have issues.....which we could dissect,   but basically, making mistakes, not seeing the field properly...and etc.  I certainly am not saying he doesn't have problems that need to be corrected.

    But hating to lose, and being passionate about that fact are NOT on the same planet of the causes of his problems. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Baker does have issues.....which we could dissect,   but basically, making mistakes, not seeing the field properly...and etc.  I certainly am not saying he doesn't have problems that need to be corrected.

    But hating to lose, and being passionate about that fact are NOT on the same planet of the causes of his problems. 

    You get it right. Nobody wants him to like losing. You get that right? If not it is time to move on. You sound like a total dumbass. It is how he acts in public. Jesus dude. Have you ever played anything? Led anything.

  • @coachtoad said:

    Ok Gipper. I have been on both sides of media. Feel free to go to spotify and look up the Highline Bear's podCast. One of the episodes has my name and it is called for the love of white center.  I can give you many other examples of media I have done as well. It is about a 20 minute interview on baseball, community and leadership. You are probably a good guy but you don't know shit my friend.

    I don't know shit about you.....and could care even less.  Whatever you may have ever done in your life,  podcasting, coaching, movie BS,  serial killer  (well...not really....that we know about 😁  does not give you insight into Baker Mayfield's personality nor what he coaches and teammates feel about him. 

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't know shit about you.....and could care even less.  Whatever you may have ever done in your life,  podcasting, coaching, movie BS,  serial killer  (well...not really....that we know about 😁  does not give you insight into Baker Mayfield's personality nor what he coaches and teammates feel about him. 

    Well I shared some of my credentials what about you couch fan? All talk. Prove it big man.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well....sort of:   I see that I am speaking with passion, and that you are acting like a bitch. 

    And no, I don't think he should show passion in the film room.  I want him to be studious, intellectual attentive, and synthetical in there. (as I am being here for the most part) And by all reports he is exactly that.

    I obviously mean showing passion by living in the damn film room. Jesus dude. Have you ever actually played a sport? I know you are a big dude. Do you get out much?

    @coachtoad said:

    I obviously mean showing passion by living in the damn film room. Jesus dude. Have you ever actually played a sport? I know you are a big dude. Do you get out much?

    Well, perhaps you should express yourself better.  As I said, by all accounts Baker is a film room freak. You probably don't know that because you have not paid attention.  I played baseball in HS.  Wanna see my letter?  

    And here is a clue for you....from my observation just from TV...so I can't attest to anything else.  Some of the guys that play a sport seem to know very little about the sport they play.  At least, they don't exhibit it.  (coaches are different)

  • It has to get so old answering these stupid questions these reporters ask. 
     

    “Were you happy you got your dick kicked in because you turned the ball over three times and spotted the other team 10 points??”

    ”How did you feel when your coach called a punt, took a penalty and then sent you back out there to take a sack”

    I wish he would just look at Tony and say, “No Comment” everytime he asked something. Guy is a dick. He and Mary Kay can both take the next train outta town and nobody would care. 

  • It has to get so old answering these stupid questions these reporters ask. 
     

    “Were you happy you got your dick kicked in because you turned the ball over three times and spotted the other team 10 points??”

    ”How did you feel when your coach called a punt, took a penalty and then sent you back out there to take a sack”

    I wish he would just look at Tony and say, “No Comment” everytime he asked something. Guy is a dick. He and Mary Kay can both take the next train outta town and nobody would care. 

    @hx214 said:

    It has to get so old answering these stupid questions these reporters ask. 
     

    “Were you happy you got your dick kicked in because you turned the ball over three times and spotted the other team 10 points??”

    ”How did you feel when your coach called a punt, took a penalty and then sent you back out there to take a sack”

    I wish he would just look at Tony and say, “No Comment” everytime he asked something. Guy is a dick. He and Mary Kay can both take the next train outta town and nobody would care. 

    Yeah, it takes discipline. Lot's of asses in the media.

  • @the-gipper said:

    You are funny. Nice straw man. I teally want my players to want to lose. Where have you won? What coaching hall of fames are you in. Get your fat ass off the couch and learn something.i can show my work. Can you? That is the sound of the mic dropping.

    @coachtoad said:

    You are funny. Nice straw man. I teally want my players to want to lose. Where have you won? What coaching hall of fames are you in. Get your fat ass off the couch and learn something.i can show my work. Can you? That is the sound of the mic dropping.

    I don't give a shit if you are the ghost of Vince fucking Lombardi.  If you think that Baker Mayfield has to conform to your bullshit "get off my lawn" ways of conducting himself....your are a fossil, and ought to be in a museum. 

    And Jesus, learn how to quote, or at least to cut and paste. Then maybe people will have a clue what you are replying to. 

    And maybe get a dictionary so that I don't have to dumb this down for you to follow along.

  • @coachtoad said:

    You are right. They have been awesome! Great point! These guys are being led to the promsed land. We need more Mayfield magic.

    You act like your team needs you to. That is not being complacent. That is being an adult and a good teammate. 

    You are one feculent fool,  aren't you.  

    Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic.  The kind that he has shown that he is capable of.  Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.  

    And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.  

    Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But,  Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others. 

    Baker just hates to lose.   Savvy Ingles?

    @the-gipper said:

    You are one feculent fool,  aren't you.  😆

    Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic.  The kind that he has shown that he is capable of.  Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.  

    And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.  

    Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But,  Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others. 

    Baker just hates to lose.   Savvy Ingles?

    This was however a classic Ryan Leaf-like stunt with the classic (or no class) stunt "I'm mad as hell and I'm leaving right now".  And you can't stop me, I'm surprised he didn't stick his tounge out on the no class exit from the stage.  What a baby!

    And I see that you've got all of your "poopsie quotes" all ready to fire out there, how classy!

  • @the-gipper said:

    I don't know shit about you.....and could care even less.  Whatever you may have ever done in your life,  podcasting, coaching, movie BS,  serial killer  (well...not really....that we know about 😁  does not give you insight into Baker Mayfield's personality nor what he coaches and teammates feel about him. 

    Well I shared some of my credentials what about you couch fan? All talk. Prove it big man.

    @coachtoad said:

    Well I shared some of my credentials what about you couch fan? All talk. Prove it big man.

    Credentials on what? Coaching?  No, I had other things to do.

     Nevertheless Your credential prove that you have two lips a tongue and teeth, so that you can talk.  Otherwise you  have proven you are an out of touch old geezer.  (So am I...so what?) 

  • @the-gipper said:

    You are one feculent fool,  aren't you.  😆

    Yes, we DO need more Mayfield magic.  The kind that he has shown that he is capable of.  Not the guy that is making the bad mistakes.  

    And I guaranfuckingdamntee you that this team knows that they need him to be that guy.  

    Maybe in your coaching career you were blase about losing. But,  Again, please discontinue this whole transference thing you have going where you assign your own shortcomings and failures on to others. 

    Baker just hates to lose.   Savvy Ingles?

    This was however a classic Ryan Leaf-like stunt with the classic (or no class) stunt "I'm mad as hell and I'm leaving right now".  And you can't stop me, I'm surprised he didn't stick his tounge out on the no class exit from the stage.  What a baby!

    And I see that you've got all of your "poopsie quotes" all ready to fire out there, how classy!

    @mjp28 said:

    This was however a classic Ryan Leaf-like stunt with the classic (or no class) stunt "I'm mad as hell and I'm leaving right now".  And you can't stop me, I'm surprised he didn't stick his tounge out on the no class exit from the stage.  What a baby!

    And I see that you've got all of your "poopsie quotes" all ready to fire out there, how classy!

    And if Ryan Leaf could play no one would have cared one whit about all that.  Having that confrontation with a reporter didn't make him a shitty QB.

  • @coachtoad said:

    Well I shared some of my credentials what about you couch fan? All talk. Prove it big man.

    Credentials on what? Coaching?  No, I had other things to do.

     Nevertheless Your credential prove that you have two lips a tongue and teeth, so that you can talk.  Otherwise you  have proven you are an out of touch old geezer.  (So am I...so what?) 

    @the-gipper said:

    Credentials on what? Coaching?  No, I had other things to do.

     Nevertheless Your credential prove that you have two lips a tongue and teeth, so that you can talk.  Otherwise you  have proven you are an out of touch old geezer.  (So am I...so what?) 

    My credentials show that I have coached successfully for 30 years. I have multiple athletes that have made a great living and have an excellrnt coaching tree. I am offering proof of that. And yes, my computer skills suck.have a good night.

  • @coachtoad said:

    You are funny. Nice straw man. I teally want my players to want to lose. Where have you won? What coaching hall of fames are you in. Get your fat ass off the couch and learn something.i can show my work. Can you? That is the sound of the mic dropping.

    I don't give a shit if you are the ghost of Vince fucking Lombardi.  If you think that Baker Mayfield has to conform to your bullshit "get off my lawn" ways of conducting himself....your are a fossil, and ought to be in a museum. 

    And Jesus, learn how to quote, or at least to cut and paste. Then maybe people will have a clue what you are replying to. 

    And maybe get a dictionary so that I don't have to dumb this down for you to follow along.

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't give a shit if you are the ghost of Vince fucking Lombardi.  If you think that Baker Mayfield has to conform to your bullshit "get off my lawn" ways of conducting himself....your are a fossil, and ought to be in a museum. 

    And Jesus, learn how to quote, or at least to cut and paste. Then maybe people will have a clue what you are replying to. 

    And maybe get a dictionary so that I don't have to dumb this down for you to follow along.

    And I have a dictionary although I rarely need one.  I've always thought that you were quite a wordsmith and then you go pull out all of this"poopsie crap". I know that you can do better than that Gip.  (But sometimes a Gump, go figure?)

  • Final words are my first words:

    He does not and he does not have to play by what you think should be the rules.  Your perception is irrelevent.  Only his "I hate to lose attitude" is what matters.  And that is ALL that is on display here.

  • from once being in a locker room.. I prefer taking a full look at the tone of this presser before Grossi speaks 

    With it being Wednesday, you'd expect questions towards the Denver game. And at the start ,there were & Baker responded fine to even Patriots questions.. I get Tony is a hometown native & all Cleveland all the time. Has a radio show on the flagship station. Sports Time Ohio TV show..But he's no longer with the Cleveland Plain Dealer..Tony writes for ESPN* Cleveland.. again, watch the 7 minute tone of the presser..Than at 7:20:: it is truly a dumb ass question from Grossi.. sure, bakes frustrated and Grossi got enough to print his side of the story      

    @gumby73 said:

    from once being in a locker room.. I prefer taking a full look at the tone of this presser before Grossi speaks 

    With it being Wednesday, you'd expect questions towards the Denver game. And at the start ,there were & Baker responded fine to even Patriots questions.. I get Tony is a hometown native & all Cleveland all the time. Has a radio show on the flagship station. Sports Time Ohio TV show..But he's no longer with the Cleveland Plain Dealer..Tony writes for ESPN* Cleveland.. again, watch the 7 minute tone of the presser..Than at 7:20:: it is truly a dumb ass question from Grossi.. sure, bakes frustrated and Grossi got enough to print his side of the story      

    Good find Gumby. Is it me or does it sound like a party is going on at the other end of the interview room? I recall Baker having to ask a reporter to repeat or clarify a question a couple times. Seemed like an odd atmosphere for an interview. 

  • @coachtoad said:

    Well I shared some of my credentials what about you couch fan? All talk. Prove it big man.

    Credentials on what? Coaching?  No, I had other things to do.

     Nevertheless Your credential prove that you have two lips a tongue and teeth, so that you can talk.  Otherwise you  have proven you are an out of touch old geezer.  (So am I...so what?) 

    @the-gipper said:

    Credentials on what? Coaching?  No, I had other things to do.

     Nevertheless Your credential prove that you have two lips a tongue and teeth, so that you can talk.  Otherwise you  have proven you are an out of touch old geezer.  (So am I...so what?) 

    I don't think for a minute that I don't think that the Gipper isn't a good lawyer in fact I think he could get under anyone's skin if he needed to do that too.  

    But watch this age stuff I am a little over a year older than the Gip......so watch it there you young so-in-so we could whip you in an IQ test!  😆

    Some of us oldies can surprise you!  And bore you to death doing it so watch out.  

  • @the-gipper said:

    Credentials on what? Coaching?  No, I had other things to do.

     Nevertheless Your credential prove that you have two lips a tongue and teeth, so that you can talk.  Otherwise you  have proven you are an out of touch old geezer.  (So am I...so what?) 

    I don't think for a minute that I don't think that the Gipper isn't a good lawyer in fact I think he could get under anyone's skin if he needed to do that too.  

    But watch this age stuff I am a little over a year older than the Gip......so watch it there you young so-in-so we could whip you in an IQ test!  😆

    Some of us oldies can surprise you!  And bore you to death doing it so watch out.  

    @mjp28 said:

    I don't think for a minute that I don't think that the Gipper isn't a good lawyer in fact I think he could get under anyone's skin if he needed to do that too.  

    But watch this age stuff I am a little over a year older than the Gip......so watch it there you young so-in-so we could whip you in an IQ test!  😆

    Some of us oldies can surprise you!  And bore you to death doing it so watch out.  

    I'm sure you guys have lots of life in you. I am 54 yrs old so I am not a spring chicken.