Wednesday PM practice
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All stuff that concerns about what is going on in the second practice goes here.
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"Aug 5 2009 | 6:53:54 pm
Browns WR Braylon Edwards appears to be enjoying his first day of practice. He caught a mid-range pass one-handed minutes after hauling in a long one in 1-on-1 drills."
Ah, I have missed that.
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I'm not sure where Braylon is going to end up after this season, but I'm stoked to watch this dude play this year. He's going to come back with a vengance, I feel.
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Aug 5th, 2009 @ 7:16 pm by Steve Doerschuk
Quinn was running the No. 2 offense, where Edwards is spending 15 minutes to satisfy protocol since he missed four days of camp.
Edwards got behind rookie Coye Franceis on the throw, but had to wait a split second. Franceis closed and was flagged for interference — officials have been present throughout camp.
My eyes don’t have enough X-ray to have agreed with the tired-arm bit. I’ve seen Quinn underthrow and overthrow guys on deep balls during the five days, and put some on the money.
With help from the penalty, it was a drive on which Quinn took the Browns the length of the field, almost. He threw a nice ball over the middle that led second-year tight end Paul Hubbard.
Near the goal line, he almost hit a pass to Paul Hubbard at the back of the end zone, but cornerback Gerard Lawson tipped it away.
The fellas were wearing shorts in the evening session, and you always hesitate to read much into that.
Derek Anderson didn’t match the hot pace he set in the first couple days of camp today, but he seemed pretty accurate when I was watching him. He always throws with zip.
- No. 3 QB Brett Ratliff has had a quiet camp after some misguided buzz that he might horn into the race for No. 1.
Ratliff is a likeable fellow who had a laugh today about last year’s preseason game at Cleveland.
He was a Jet then, with Brett Favre on his way in, and Chad Pennington on his way out.
“It was my coming-out party,” said Ratliff, who played three quarters and had a monster game. His first pass as an NFL quarterback was in that game, a 71-yarder to David Clowney.
- U2’s “Beautiful Day” filled the air late in the evening practice. The hits keep coming. Mangini’s idea is to make it hard to communicate, as it is in a noisy stadium. The defensive linemen tell me they really do have a hard time hearing what their teammates are yelling on the field.
- The evening crowd was awfully quiet, which maybe you get sometimes when you practice in shorts. Braylon Edwards made a lovely one-handed catch that drew absolutely no reaction. It wasn’t an 11-on-11 catch, but still …
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Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan were at the afternoon practice for Sirius NFL Radio.
Kirwan said that the only way Quinn gets the QB job would be because of politics.
And he said if that happens he's gonna rip the team for it all year long.
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Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan were at the afternoon practice for Sirius NFL Radio.
Kirwan said that the only way Quinn gets the QB job would be because of politics.
And he said if that happens he's gonna rip the team for it all year long.
Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan were at the afternoon practice for Sirius NFL Radio.
Kirwan said that the only way Quinn gets the QB job would be because of politics.
And he said if that happens he's gonna rip the team for it all year long.
He based that on a week of camp? Kirwan must have also missed Andersons poor reads, mis-throws short and inability to improvise when in trouble.
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I'm surprised at Anderson. I wonder if he's out to prove everybody wrong after what happened last year.
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Aug 5 2009 | 7:41:31 pm
After participating in a "last-play ball flip drill," Browns QB Derek Anderson was gasping for air. "That was 200 yards of running," he sighed. "Holy smoke!"
Aug 5 2009 | 7:29:27 pm
Browns DB Corey Ivy stayed with WR Mike Furrey, who finally got open long enough to catch a TD pass from Derek Anderson in game simulation drills.
Aug 5 2009 | 7:19:59 pm
Browns CB Eric Wright intercepted a tipped pass from QB Brady Quinn and raced 20 yards in game simulation.
Aug 5 2009 | 7:16:31 pm
Veteran WR Mike Furrey met Browns rookie Brian Robiskie as the latter came off the field in game simulation and offered him some advice on his footwork.
Aug 5 2009 | 7:13:54 pm
Browns DB Abram Elam broke through around right end in game simulation and would have sacked Derek Anderson if it had been allowed.
Aug 5 2009 | 7:12:51 pm
Browns TE Martin Rucker broke free over the middle to grab a tight spiral from QB Brady Quinn. Rucker is fighting Robert Royal and Steve Heiden for playing time.
Aug 5 2009 | 7:10:59 pm
Browns RB Jerome Harrison showed his elusiveness and cutting ability breaking free for a long run in game simulation.
Interesting eh?
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Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan were at the afternoon practice for Sirius NFL Radio.
Kirwan said that the only way Quinn gets the QB job would be because of politics.
And he said if that happens he's gonna rip the team for it all year long.
Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan were at the afternoon practice for Sirius NFL Radio.
Kirwan said that the only way Quinn gets the QB job would be because of politics.
And he said if that happens he's gonna rip the team for it all year long.
"Derek Anderson didn’t match the hot pace he set in the first couple days of camp today, but he seemed pretty accurate when I was watching him. He always throws with zip."
So, his hot start has earned him a slight edge.
However, if DA smokes the preseason, go with him.
Browns first, misguided agenda second Lums.
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I'm surprised at Anderson. I wonder if he's out to prove everybody wrong after what happened last year.
I'm surprised at Anderson. I wonder if he's out to prove everybody wrong after what happened last year.
Surprised by what? What has he done to "surprise" you?
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I'm surprised at Anderson. I wonder if he's out to prove everybody wrong after what happened last year.
Surprised by what? What has he done to "surprise" you?
Surprised by what? What has he done to "surprise" you?
He has improved on his short passes and mid-intermediate passes. I think that he has that swagger, and confidence back again.
After what happened last year, we have nowhere to go but up.
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@shepwrite said:
Honestly, I'm torn. If Anderson's better, he should start, right? That's my gut. If he outplays Quinn in practice and in preseason games, you give him the job because he earned it.On the other hand...
The only way to know what you have in Quinn is to start him in a handful of real games. That's it. Until then, people will rightfully speculate that he might do better than Anderson. We can't really predict anything based on practices or vanilla preseason games. I mean, remember that Frye beat out Anderson in 2007. Does anybody really believe Frye is a better quarterback than Anderson?
I don't. And Boller outplayed McNair a couple years ago, by miles. Ratliff outplayed everybody in preseason 2008. And so on.
But I'm not being precious: I'm sincerely torn about it. I love Anderson's arm. If he really is pulling his whole game together? He could be something special.
There. I set aside my loathing for Lums and just said it.
I am also torn too. I want Quinn to start, but if Anderson blows Quinn away in the preseason games, by all means, Anderson should start. I also think we have a great QB coach in Carl Smith, who may be benefitting Anderson.
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Surprised by what? What has he done to "surprise" you?
He has improved on his short passes and mid-intermediate passes. I think that he has that swagger, and confidence back again.
After what happened last year, we have nowhere to go but up.
He has improved on his short passes and mid-intermediate passes. I think that he has that swagger, and confidence back again.
After what happened last year, we have nowhere to go but up.
Wrong. His short/mid game still is subpar. This was clearly evident this morning. Alot of the first days of camp are vanilla and frankly, get to much hype. Anderson has declined as expected since the weekend. Saying he has been "fairly" accurate has been misleading as well. No, he has not.
If your the head coach, you already have your QB picked out before camp besides the typical bs you will spill for a "competition" for the media. You have seen them enough mini-camps to get the impressions you want.
I would probably say that none of the QB's(including Ratliff) are having good "camps". They all look subpar. But Quinn has shown the best skills that fit this offense. That seems to be the point people are missing and thus make poor evaluations.
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I'm surprised at Anderson. I wonder if he's out to prove everybody wrong after what happened last year.
I'm surprised at Anderson. I wonder if he's out to prove everybody wrong after what happened last year.
I would be surprised if he is NOT out to prove everyone wrong. If not...no need to even show up.. Seems like he is determined.. I like that. Keep Quinn working hard to win it.. Best man gets the job.
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@shepwrite said:
Why aren't those Twitters tweeting?The twits don't have them turned on??
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-Wednesday August 05, 2009, 8:40 PM
QB derby: The quarterbacks remained even through a day of situational team drills, including no-huddle, goal-line, and trailing by four points with one second remaining and facing fourth down from the 5. Both quarterbacks fared well in the latter drill, with Derek Anderson lobbing a TD pass to Mike Furrey on the left side of the end zone over Corey Ivy and Brady Quinn finding tight end Martin Rucker just inside the right corner.
Given the same situation but with the ball moved back to the 35, a leaping Brodney Pool knocked down Anderson's heave and Quinn's pass fell incomplete in the end zone. Backed up 10 more yards to the 45, Pool picked off Anderson's pass at the right side of the goal-line and Hamza Abdullah swatted Quinn's short offering away from Syndric Steptoe at about the 5. Quinn was picked off once by Eric Wright in team drills, but the ball was tipped by Brian Robiskie. Displaying plenty of arm strength, he hit Edwards on a deep post and Josh Cribbs on a fly in one-on-ones.
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So, remaining even and the nod would go to Quinn. I'm still thinking if this plays out like we think it will, DA will edge Quinn in practices (because his throws are mesmerizing) and Quinn will gain the edge in games (leadership, mobility, grit, ball control).
We shall see.
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@shepwrite said:
Honestly, I'm torn. If Anderson's better, he should start, right? That's my gut. If he outplays Quinn in practice and in preseason games, you give him the job because he earned it.On the other hand...
I understand the conflict, but there really is no other hand. BQ will have had 3 seasons to snare the job.
It simply boils down to who is doing the better job.
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It sure sounds pretty darn even to me.
So, if it ends up that way, what do we do?
Who do we start?
And a general question...since it has been established by the majority of the board that DA sucks, does that mean BQ sucks too or does it mean the majority of the board really doesn't know how to judge a qb??
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It sure sounds pretty darn even to me.
So, if it ends up that way, what do we do?
Who do we start?
And a general question...since it has been established by the majority of the board that DA sucks, does that mean BQ sucks too or does it mean the majority of the board really doesn't know how to judge a qb??
So, if it ends up that way, what do we do?
Who do we start?
And a general question...since it has been established by the majority of the board that DA sucks, does that mean BQ sucks too or does it mean the majority of the board really doesn't know how to judge a qb??
It may mean that DA is really good and improved over last year or Brady Quinn sucked nuts.
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