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Freddie: "I don't look at stats."

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  • CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on
    #3

    Coach Kitchens is saying that there is more going on like:

    INTs off receivers hands, penalties, sacks/pressure from poor offensive line play, his own bad managing/mentoring, etc..

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on
    #4

    I've always hated the "we need to fire the coach" mantra that seems to follow our franchise, but I gotta tell you, I just heard Dan Orlovsky from NFL Network go through all the dumb shit Freddie has done this year and I'm stunned. Like, I'm literally shocked. He mentioned the 4th and 9 draw play (holy shit btw). OBJ with 3 red zone targets. The 4th and 11 intentional delay of game penalty. The countless clock mismanagement. Not playing Rashard Higgins. The time mismanagement against the Seahawks which literally could've lost the game. I'll just stop. Listening to him was so triggering. 

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #5

    Kitchens HAS to say this. He has to say he doesn't pay attention to stats.

    Because EVERY stat known to man shows the Baker has been one of the worst, if not the worst, full-time starting QB in the NFL this season. 

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  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #6

    Thank You^^ I'd also include most team stats 🙁 .. Listen to any of Freddie's post game pressers. He's aware of them, cause he rattles some off at his presser before I even look at the game stats.. were young folks. 53 need to bond, and 37 never played here.   

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  • KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on
    #7

    How will you know your crop yields Farmer Freddie?

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    How will you know your crop yields Farmer Freddie?

    nickersN nickers wrote on
    #8

    @kvoethe said:

    How will you know your crop yields Farmer Freddie?

    Just look at the Cincitucky farmers report lol...

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  • B Babernakle wrote on
    #9

    It’s his first year relax, on top of all the shit he deals with he’s got dumbshits saying he needs fired and he’s fighting the refs every Sunday. 

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #10

    We  don't need stats to know how bad Baker is playing... and neither does Freddie.

    That said...

    I hope Freddie is not saying that he doesn't use data to break down...

    • where Baker is being relatively successful;
    • the tendencies of the Defenses he faces...
    • or his own playcalling, etc... How many 3rd and medium carries for Hilliyard this season?

    To not do so in this era is simply criminal.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    We  don't need stats to know how bad Baker is playing... and neither does Freddie.

    That said...

    I hope Freddie is not saying that he doesn't use data to break down...

    • where Baker is being relatively successful;
    • the tendencies of the Defenses he faces...
    • or his own playcalling, etc... How many 3rd and medium carries for Hilliyard this season?

    To not do so in this era is simply criminal.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #11

    @tour2ma said:

    We  don't need stats to know how bad Baker is playing... and neither does Freddie.

    That said...

    I hope Freddie is not saying that he doesn't use data to break down...

    • where Baker is being relatively successful;
    • the tendencies of the Defenses he faces...
    • or his own playcalling, etc... How many 3rd and medium carries for Hilliyard this season?

    To not do so in this era is simply criminal.

    Of course he does.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    Kitchens HAS to say this. He has to say he doesn't pay attention to stats.

    Because EVERY stat known to man shows the Baker has been one of the worst, if not the worst, full-time starting QB in the NFL this season. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #12

    @dutch-oven said:

    Kitchens HAS to say this. He has to say he doesn't pay attention to stats.

    Because EVERY stat known to man shows the Baker has been one of the worst, if not the worst, full-time starting QB in the NFL this season. 

    And if so then, primarily, in my mind, he is that as a product of Freddie's poor coaching ability.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    Kitchens HAS to say this. He has to say he doesn't pay attention to stats.

    Because EVERY stat known to man shows the Baker has been one of the worst, if not the worst, full-time starting QB in the NFL this season. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #13

    @dutch-oven said:

    Kitchens HAS to say this. He has to say he doesn't pay attention to stats.

    Because EVERY stat known to man shows the Baker has been one of the worst, if not the worst, full-time starting QB in the NFL this season. 

    Every single NFL coach knows every stat and then some!

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    Kitchens HAS to say this. He has to say he doesn't pay attention to stats.

    Because EVERY stat known to man shows the Baker has been one of the worst, if not the worst, full-time starting QB in the NFL this season. 

    I Icecube wrote on
    #14

    @dutch-oven said:

    Kitchens HAS to say this. He has to say he doesn't pay attention to stats.

    Because EVERY stat known to man shows the Baker has been one of the worst, if not the worst, full-time starting QB in the NFL this season. 

    Listen, I'm scratching my head. Can an inexperienced head coach really take a record-setting (in TDs) rookie to the worst QB in the NFL?  Well, Freddie doesn't look at stats. 

  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #15

    we had a stats guy in Savage, right?

    how did that work out?

    nope. If football is "90%" ? emotional, then....stats don't matter all that much.

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  • medicinemanM medicineman wrote on
    #16

    The shit is rigged why not say that? Why not  cover the story about Joe Thomas getting fined 10 grand for mention that the  Dolphins got a call on the black phone and were told to change the D so Pittsburgh could score before half time? Why not cover that he was threatened to lose his job and face charges if he talks about what goes on on sidelines? If any of you knew where to look these stories are out there and the NFL is going to come to a scretching stop real soon because the corruption and fixed bull shit, Vegas calls the shots here and with Fantasy becoming so big that you can bet on the over and under how many points a player will have? GTFOH. Having a first round pick every year and never getting any better then had a decent year last year and now they all look like rookies. WWE same as NFL 

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  • C calfoxwc

    we had a stats guy in Savage, right?

    how did that work out?

    nope. If football is "90%" ? emotional, then....stats don't matter all that much.

    I Icecube wrote on
    #17

    @calfoxwc said:

    we had a stats guy in Savage, right?

    how did that work out?

    nope. If football is "90%" ? emotional, then....stats don't matter all that much.

    One stat does, "Winn-Loss." 

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  • I Icecube

    @calfoxwc said:

    we had a stats guy in Savage, right?

    how did that work out?

    nope. If football is "90%" ? emotional, then....stats don't matter all that much.

    One stat does, "Winn-Loss." 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #18

    @icecube said:

    One stat does, "Winn-Loss." 

    2 - 6 loosely translated means "uh-oh" or you just failed at whatever it was that you were doing...... just sayin'.

    "Aw shucks"..... 

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  • mjp28M mjp28

    @icecube said:

    One stat does, "Winn-Loss." 

    2 - 6 loosely translated means "uh-oh" or you just failed at whatever it was that you were doing...... just sayin'.

    "Aw shucks"..... 

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on
    #19

    @mjp28 said:

    2 - 6 loosely translated means "uh-oh" or you just failed at whatever it was that you were doing...... just sayin'.

    "Aw shucks"..... 

    Yep, we’ve watched this team go from horrible to pretty good and back to horrible in just about one years time. The only real difference has been in coaching. We’re not in rebuild mode and a good coach doesn’t need a learning curve. 

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  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #20

    I still think not having a rock solid interior of yer offensive line is hurting the Browns' offense hugely. Losing Njoku and Higgins hurt more.

       Bitonio is doing double duty trying to help Robinson so much of the time... Just ...wait til next year. After the d word I hate to talk about so soon...

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  • C calfoxwc

    I still think not having a rock solid interior of yer offensive line is hurting the Browns' offense hugely. Losing Njoku and Higgins hurt more.

       Bitonio is doing double duty trying to help Robinson so much of the time... Just ...wait til next year. After the d word I hate to talk about so soon...

    CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on
    #21

    @calfoxwc said:

     ...wait til next year. After the d word I hate to talk about so soon...

    Don't throw in the 2019 towel, just yet.  Too much potential to make history..

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  • S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #22

    The stat out there id like to know  Harris Redzone targets vs OBJ’s redzone targets?

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