Rankem Browns HCs since 1999
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Rod Chudzinski ??? Got screwed. Had no players. Management didn't get him any but told him to be patient. At the end of the year they fired him. (so much for patience)
You would think that it's a pretty low bar for a HC to beat.....but as much as I've been a Freddie supporter because I like an attacking style of offense....he seems to have a head like a rock. He wants to go for it on 4th down no matter what. 4th and 9 drawer play. 6 tries from inside the two...couldn't learn by the 5th try to kick the FG....nope, insanity tells you to do the same thing again, so he did.
Nice take on all the coaches Orion. I totally agree Chud wasn't given enough time to prove himself- the guy bled Orange & Brown. Then it got compounded having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to hire Pettine. Freddie's play calling has been underwhelming to date. I've mentioned there's aggressive play calling, and then there's stupid aggressive play calling.
Speaking of things Astronomical, hope you caught the Mercury transit, and it was clear out your way. Next one is more than a decade off, and not visible in the United States. Cloudy in Ohio, but thanks to Space.com- it's always clear somewhere in the world.
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hope you caught the Mercury transit,
I recently traded my Mercury transit in for a Lincoln transit.
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I did not. It must have been wicked cool though. Since Mercury is in retrograde, watching it go backwards across the sun must have been great! LOL
Ah, OT. Mercury and the Earth are going around the sun in the same direction, but the little planet is just moving faster. Left to right looking at the Sun. Plenty of on line video feeds. Only can happen if Earth and Mercury are in the right respective places, and only in November or May.
hope you caught the Mercury transit,
I recently traded my Mercury transit in for a Lincoln transit.
U r funnee, U shud be uh comediun. And I had to rent a FORD Transit van a couple of years ago. And you're not going to be around for the next transit of Mercury visible from the United States in 30 years.
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Here are the Browns Head Coaches since 1999. Rank like your top 3 best, and your worst 3, includes interim (I)
Chris Palmer
Butch Davis
Terry Robiskie (I)
Romeo Crennell
Eric Mangini
Pat Shurmur
Rod Chudzinski
Mike Pettine
Hue Jackson
Gregg Williams (I)
Freddie Kitchens
Here are the Browns Head Coaches since 1999. Rank like your top 3 best, and your worst 3, includes interim (I)
Chris Palmer
Butch Davis
Terry Robiskie (I)
Romeo Crennell
Eric Mangini
Pat Shurmur
Rod Chudzinski
Mike Pettine
Hue Jackson
Gregg Williams (I)
Freddie Kitchens
Worst three: Well this is easy for me. I still say Pat Shurmer is by far and away the worst coach in Browns history by a mile. He single handily ruined our Christmas Eve in Baltimore 2011.
2) Butch Davis got us to the playoffs, but somehow fell in love with Kelly Holcomb over Tim Couch. So he's polarizing to me. Throwing for over 400 yards vs backup secondary players, and losing the game shouldn't get you a starting gig over the guy who got you to the playoffs.
3) Hue Jackson wasn't very good, but I give him a little break because of the intended tanking operation. I still say we should have beat the Vikings in London to avoid 0-16, but Hue abandoned the run.
Best three: 1) Chris Palmer- he only coached 32 games, but beat Pittsburgh twice. He understood the rivalry.
2) Butch Davis- see above. Was a good coach, fell victim to Holcomb mania instead of beefing up the offensive line.
3) Greg Williams- cleaned up all the stupid penalties, inserted a proper LT, and damn near got us to the playoffs.
Chud Romeo, Mangini, and Pettine were decent coaches. Ownership meddled, GMs screwed up. Thanks Jimmy and Farmer, stupid-a$$ Kyle Shanahan is building a dam good team in Santa Clara.
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I did not. It must have been wicked cool though. Since Mercury is in retrograde, watching it go backwards across the sun must have been great! LOL
Ah, OT. Mercury and the Earth are going around the sun in the same direction, but the little planet is just moving faster. Left to right looking at the Sun. Plenty of on line video feeds. Only can happen if Earth and Mercury are in the right respective places, and only in November or May.
hope you caught the Mercury transit,
I recently traded my Mercury transit in for a Lincoln transit.
U r funnee, U shud be uh comediun. And I had to rent a FORD Transit van a couple of years ago. And you're not going to be around for the next transit of Mercury visible from the United States in 30 years.
Ah, OT. Mercury and the Earth are going around the sun in the same direction, but the little planet is just moving faster. Left to right looking at the Sun. Plenty of on line video feeds. Only can happen if Earth and Mercury are in the right respective places, and only in November or May.
U r funnee, U shud be uh comediun. And I had to rent a FORD Transit van a couple of years ago. And you're not going to be around for the next transit of Mercury visible from the United States in 30 years.
Don't count me out! My son is a Molecular Biologist. He might clone his old man!!
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Ah, OT. Mercury and the Earth are going around the sun in the same direction, but the little planet is just moving faster. Left to right looking at the Sun. Plenty of on line video feeds. Only can happen if Earth and Mercury are in the right respective places, and only in November or May.
U r funnee, U shud be uh comediun. And I had to rent a FORD Transit van a couple of years ago. And you're not going to be around for the next transit of Mercury visible from the United States in 30 years.
Don't count me out! My son is a Molecular Biologist. He might clone his old man!!
Don't count me out! My son is a Molecular Biologist. He might clone his old man!!
Hah, since you missed it.... Shows how tiny our planets are in relation to the Sun..... FWIW, Mercury is about 50% bigger than our Moon....

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I guess I haven't actually put my choices on here:
Chris Palmer Got him at #8. Yes, did some OK things....not given much to work with. Still, highly unsuccesful. To quote Curly Howard: He was a victim of soicumstance.
Butch Davis I put him at no. 2. As far as a HC is concerned. He SHOULD have been a good one. He got caught up in the franchise transition where Al Lerner died, and Randy didn't want Carmen Policy around. And with Policy out the door, Dwight Clark went with him. So, there was a huge vacuum in the organization which Butch had to...and apparently chose to fill, but was really totally unable. His hubris caught up to him...wanting to do it all basically: be HC, GM, and essentially team President as well. Randy Lerner, who took over the ownership control, was a greenhorn with no fucking clue. So, in my opinion, most of the shit show that came about at the end of Butch's tenure has to be laid at Randy's doorstep.
Terry Robiskie (I) Goes in at #6. Almost unfair to judge him, as he was an interim coach....but, with the Williams example, we see that an interim coach can have some success. This Robo has always been better off being an assistant than a HC.
Romeo Crennell Goes to the #5 spot. Should/could probably be higher, given he did coach the team to its last winning season....but it is the fact that he was completely unable to build on that winning season that showed that he was out of his element.
Eric Mangini Goes to the #3 slot. He probably could have been successful here, but when Mike Holmgren came in, he turned from a winning HC/GM to a fat, lazy, stupid person who was only interested in collecting checks, not in putting a winning team on the field, and he wanted "his guy", not someone hired by his predecessor.
Pat Shurmur In at #9. This guy is only lucky that the Browns have had Hue as a HC.....because I didn't think things could get much worse around here than it was under him. But, they did. And now the NY Giants are finding out about him. IMO, at currently 2-8....he has 6 more games in his NFL head coaching career. He should never have gotten that job, and should never get another, no matter who his uncle was. (which, apparently, is the only reason he got the Browns job)
Rod Chudzinski Slotted in at #7. I mean...he was given too short a period of time, and I think he came in around the era of Mike Lombardi/Ray Farmer....so, while he was not very good at all.....I don't think he had any chance whatsoever.
Mike Pettine Gets put in the #4 spot. He shoulda/coulda been successful....but, he succumbed to the Ray Farmer/Jimmy demand to get Johhny Fucking Football in there...instead of choosing his own QB, which, when he had Hoyer, he did fairly well.
Hue Jackson #10....and for this purpose, he is sucking hind tit. The NFL is 100 years old...and in that entire history...only one HC has a worse record (Bert Bell....who was a team owner and would have had to fire himself). I mean...how much more suckass can you get than 2d worst coach in 100 years....(worst in like 65-70 years when Bell was coaching)
Gregg Williams (I) I gotta put him first....he turned things around from the HJ debacle. Why, really, he isn't our HC now should be a mystery to everyone. It is to me. How did the Browns FO make such an error in Judgment.
Freddie Kitchens. at this point, I am going to disqualify him as being incomplete. While Williams and Robiskie actually have coached fewer games than Freddie has to date, their tenures are complete, whereas Freddie has time to work on his resume....and hopefully vastly enhance its quality.
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In case you all did not catch the undertone in my above post, let me spell it out:
More of the Shit Show that has been the Cleveland Browns the last 20 years, except for a few exceptions (Hue/Shurmur)....I put more on the shoulders of the owners and GMs:
Randy Lerner. Disinterested, incapable, was more interested in being a soccer fag.
Jimmy Haslam. Not disinterested....but seeming incapable at hiring the right people. The exception hopefully being Dorsey...it seems.
and the other Shite we have had at GM: Clark, Kokinis, Butch, Savage, Kokinis, Lombardi, Farmer, Sashi. Only Heckert, and now Dorsey seemed to have any clue on how to evaluate talent.
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I did not. It must have been wicked cool though. Since Mercury is in retrograde, watching it go backwards across the sun must have been great! LOL
Ah, OT. Mercury and the Earth are going around the sun in the same direction, but the little planet is just moving faster. Left to right looking at the Sun. Plenty of on line video feeds. Only can happen if Earth and Mercury are in the right respective places, and only in November or May.
hope you caught the Mercury transit,
I recently traded my Mercury transit in for a Lincoln transit.
U r funnee, U shud be uh comediun. And I had to rent a FORD Transit van a couple of years ago. And you're not going to be around for the next transit of Mercury visible from the United States in 30 years.
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Don't count me out! My son is a Molecular Biologist. He might clone his old man!!
Hah, since you missed it.... Shows how tiny our planets are in relation to the Sun..... FWIW, Mercury is about 50% bigger than our Moon....

Hah, since you missed it.... Shows how tiny our planets are in relation to the Sun..... FWIW, Mercury is about 50% bigger than our Moon....

Great pic. What spacecraft took the picture?
It's hard to understand the size of the sun. Our solar system has been referred to as, The Sun And Some Other Debris. 99.8 % of the mass of the solar system is the sun. It's friggin' BIG. - And then there's Betelgeuse....which is 700 times bigger. And there's stars that make Betelgeuse look the size of Mercury in the above pic.
As far as the sun goes, I'm betting that we don't have 500 million of it's remaining 4 or 5 billion years left before all of our oceans have boiled away and life is extinguished on earth by it's ever increasing output. In the unlikely event that humanity could survive for a long period of time, we would have to island hop over to Mars for a while...and then probably out to a moon of Jupiter.
Quarterbacks go to Mars, to buy faster cars. - Head Coaches go to Jupiter so they can get stupider. (jump rope song)
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Hah, since you missed it.... Shows how tiny our planets are in relation to the Sun..... FWIW, Mercury is about 50% bigger than our Moon....

Great pic. What spacecraft took the picture?
It's hard to understand the size of the sun. Our solar system has been referred to as, The Sun And Some Other Debris. 99.8 % of the mass of the solar system is the sun. It's friggin' BIG. - And then there's Betelgeuse....which is 700 times bigger. And there's stars that make Betelgeuse look the size of Mercury in the above pic.
As far as the sun goes, I'm betting that we don't have 500 million of it's remaining 4 or 5 billion years left before all of our oceans have boiled away and life is extinguished on earth by it's ever increasing output. In the unlikely event that humanity could survive for a long period of time, we would have to island hop over to Mars for a while...and then probably out to a moon of Jupiter.
Quarterbacks go to Mars, to buy faster cars. - Head Coaches go to Jupiter so they can get stupider. (jump rope song)
Great pic. What spacecraft took the picture?
It's hard to understand the size of the sun. Our solar system has been referred to as, The Sun And Some Other Debris. 99.8 % of the mass of the solar system is the sun. It's friggin' BIG. - And then there's Betelgeuse....which is 700 times bigger. And there's stars that make Betelgeuse look the size of Mercury in the above pic.
As far as the sun goes, I'm betting that we don't have 500 million of it's remaining 4 or 5 billion years left before all of our oceans have boiled away and life is extinguished on earth by it's ever increasing output. In the unlikely event that humanity could survive for a long period of time, we would have to island hop over to Mars for a while...and then probably out to a moon of Jupiter.
Quarterbacks go to Mars, to buy faster cars. - Head Coaches go to Jupiter so they can get stupider. (jump rope song)
Betelgeuse.....gets your attention.... eh?

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Hah, since you missed it.... Shows how tiny our planets are in relation to the Sun..... FWIW, Mercury is about 50% bigger than our Moon....

Great pic. What spacecraft took the picture?
It's hard to understand the size of the sun. Our solar system has been referred to as, The Sun And Some Other Debris. 99.8 % of the mass of the solar system is the sun. It's friggin' BIG. - And then there's Betelgeuse....which is 700 times bigger. And there's stars that make Betelgeuse look the size of Mercury in the above pic.
As far as the sun goes, I'm betting that we don't have 500 million of it's remaining 4 or 5 billion years left before all of our oceans have boiled away and life is extinguished on earth by it's ever increasing output. In the unlikely event that humanity could survive for a long period of time, we would have to island hop over to Mars for a while...and then probably out to a moon of Jupiter.
Quarterbacks go to Mars, to buy faster cars. - Head Coaches go to Jupiter so they can get stupider. (jump rope song)
Great pic. What spacecraft took the picture?
It's hard to understand the size of the sun. Our solar system has been referred to as, The Sun And Some Other Debris. 99.8 % of the mass of the solar system is the sun. It's friggin' BIG. - And then there's Betelgeuse....which is 700 times bigger. And there's stars that make Betelgeuse look the size of Mercury in the above pic.
As far as the sun goes, I'm betting that we don't have 500 million of it's remaining 4 or 5 billion years left before all of our oceans have boiled away and life is extinguished on earth by it's ever increasing output. In the unlikely event that humanity could survive for a long period of time, we would have to island hop over to Mars for a while...and then probably out to a moon of Jupiter.
Quarterbacks go to Mars, to buy faster cars. - Head Coaches go to Jupiter so they can get stupider. (jump rope song)
NASA'S SDO Solar Dynamics Observatory. there' a time lapse on sciencealert.com if you're interested. Well we can move out to Jupiter's moon Europa (not Europe Gipper) there's plenty of water there.... and tank in a lot of natural gas from Saturn's moon Titan (there's lakes of it) to stay nice and cozy.... Or just skim off a lot of hydrogen from Jupiter- it does burn pretty well.
Betelgeuse.....gets your attention.... eh?
Don't mess with the 'Juice Gip. Betelgeuse is one of the biggest stars we know about. Replace the sun with it, and the Earth would be inside it. BTW, it's running out of gas, and when it blows up in a supernova it's going to be damn spectacular. So spectacular, even though it's 600 light years away, the Earth will be just outside of the death zone from all the radiation it's going to release. For several weeks, it will easily be brighter than the Moon....
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"Best" 3 chronologically - Crennel, Pettine, Williams
Worst 3 is a tie - Jackson, Jackson, Jackson and Mangini, Mangini, Mangini
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Great pic. What spacecraft took the picture?
It's hard to understand the size of the sun. Our solar system has been referred to as, The Sun And Some Other Debris. 99.8 % of the mass of the solar system is the sun. It's friggin' BIG. - And then there's Betelgeuse....which is 700 times bigger. And there's stars that make Betelgeuse look the size of Mercury in the above pic.
As far as the sun goes, I'm betting that we don't have 500 million of it's remaining 4 or 5 billion years left before all of our oceans have boiled away and life is extinguished on earth by it's ever increasing output. In the unlikely event that humanity could survive for a long period of time, we would have to island hop over to Mars for a while...and then probably out to a moon of Jupiter.
Quarterbacks go to Mars, to buy faster cars. - Head Coaches go to Jupiter so they can get stupider. (jump rope song)
NASA'S SDO Solar Dynamics Observatory. there' a time lapse on sciencealert.com if you're interested. Well we can move out to Jupiter's moon Europa (not Europe Gipper) there's plenty of water there.... and tank in a lot of natural gas from Saturn's moon Titan (there's lakes of it) to stay nice and cozy.... Or just skim off a lot of hydrogen from Jupiter- it does burn pretty well.
Betelgeuse.....gets your attention.... eh?
Don't mess with the 'Juice Gip. Betelgeuse is one of the biggest stars we know about. Replace the sun with it, and the Earth would be inside it. BTW, it's running out of gas, and when it blows up in a supernova it's going to be damn spectacular. So spectacular, even though it's 600 light years away, the Earth will be just outside of the death zone from all the radiation it's going to release. For several weeks, it will easily be brighter than the Moon....
NASA'S SDO Solar Dynamics Observatory. there' a time lapse on sciencealert.com if you're interested. Well we can move out to Jupiter's moon Europa (not Europe Gipper) there's plenty of water there.... and tank in a lot of natural gas from Saturn's moon Titan (there's lakes of it) to stay nice and cozy.... Or just skim off a lot of hydrogen from Jupiter- it does burn pretty well.
Don't mess with the 'Juice Gip. Betelgeuse is one of the biggest stars we know about. Replace the sun with it, and the Earth would be inside it. BTW, it's running out of gas, and when it blows up in a supernova it's going to be damn spectacular. So spectacular, even though it's 600 light years away, the Earth will be just outside of the death zone from all the radiation it's going to release. For several weeks, it will easily be brighter than the Moon....
Can't wait.

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NASA'S SDO Solar Dynamics Observatory. there' a time lapse on sciencealert.com if you're interested. Well we can move out to Jupiter's moon Europa (not Europe Gipper) there's plenty of water there.... and tank in a lot of natural gas from Saturn's moon Titan (there's lakes of it) to stay nice and cozy.... Or just skim off a lot of hydrogen from Jupiter- it does burn pretty well.
Don't mess with the 'Juice Gip. Betelgeuse is one of the biggest stars we know about. Replace the sun with it, and the Earth would be inside it. BTW, it's running out of gas, and when it blows up in a supernova it's going to be damn spectacular. So spectacular, even though it's 600 light years away, the Earth will be just outside of the death zone from all the radiation it's going to release. For several weeks, it will easily be brighter than the Moon....
Can't wait.

Can't wait.

And it can blow at any minute since it is so far advanced into late stage. That could be tonight...................................................or it could be in 222019.?
EDIT: But have no fear it will be before the earth gets swallowed by our own red giant when it gets to that stage in 4-5 billion years.
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