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  • @flyingfooldoug said:

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    I still have a DVD of that game. Three Rivers emptied out by halftime....  

    @hoorta said:

    I still have a DVD of that game. Three Rivers emptied out by halftime....  

    Well...they were horribly spoiled to begin with.   In like the 5 years after they won a slew of titles, they were getting crowds of only like 35-45K in their 59K stadium.   Maybe their fairweatheredness has improved lately. But that was the case for a decade after their dynasty.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

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    I still have a DVD of that game. Three Rivers emptied out by halftime....  

    @hoorta said:

    I still have a DVD of that game. Three Rivers emptied out by halftime....  

    No doubt about it being memorable. The rivalry meant something then.  Hopefully we do it again. Back to the future!

  • Really bad match-up for the Browns, I can't see Baker and the passing game doing much at all against this D line & secondary. Maybe Chubb and Hunt can go off... 

  • I am looking at who stops the run this game will be the winner.  Conner vrs Chubb/hunt.   our receivers are better which will put us on top.

  • A few thoughts after watching the Steelers/Rams late afternoon tilt yesterday....

    Bottom Line: We've got a shot, but PTG is a much better team than they were just three weeks ago...

    Offense:

    • Rudolph.... the kid stands in there... have to give him that. But his play is very streaky... he runs hot and cold from series to series, so sometimes he stands in there to take a sack (or worse) and sometimes to deliver a strike to a young WR corps. If we pressure him, then he should not be the difference in this game.
    • RB Committee.... injuries are limiting 2 of the top 3 RBs on this roster... those stepping in are energetic, but the skills gap is showing.
    • WR Committee.... JuJu has yet to establish himself as a solid #1... meanwhile Washington has the look of a real #2.
    • TEs... they've a couple good ones in McDonald and Vanett. They are going to give us some trouble. but the game should not turn on their play.
    • OL... it's a good one and the strength of this Offense, but it is not unbeatable as LAR showed early and often... would that we had a Donald inside, but we can bring better edge pressure than the Rams did. A good mix of blitz is called for this game.

    Defense:

    No bullet points here...

    This D is now very good going on damn good since the addition of Fitzpatrick at FS. He was their missing piece. He has set them up to play zone effectively a high percentage of the time. Even Haden looks renewed. With Micah they are now solid up the middle.... and the edges don't look too bad either.

    This is not to say they won't yield points... they will... and the route is by imposing our will on them... on the ground. If we can run on their 3-man front when Mark Barron is "filling" an ILB role we can wear them down. They must pay a price for going undersized on top of being out-maned.

    Then, as MN did to DAL last night, we have to PAP our asses off....

    Thar's what I see anyway for this must win, divisional game....

    @tour2ma said:

    Rudolph.... the kid stands in there... have to give him that. But his play is very streaky... he runs hot and cold from series to series, so sometimes he stands in there to take a sack (or worse) and sometimes to deliver a strike to a young WR corps. If we pressure him, then he should not be the difference in this game.

    Good stuff Tour. It's worth noting that the Steelers have a stout OL and that doesn't bode well for us, ESPECIALLY since Vernon is likely out and Chad Thomas was so abysmal. I don't want to hear anything about him getting a sack. He was truly terrible (against run and pass) and it wouldn't surprise me if Devaroe Lawrence starts inside and Sheldon Richardson kicks outside. Or possibly just try that on obvious passing downs. 

    The GOOD news is Myles Garrett has ALWAYS owned the Steelers' LT and he should be primed for a big game. Garrett played very well against the Bills and was a frog's hair away from being excellent. He had a very good chance to cause a strip sack, but he chopped way too high on Allen's shoulder which allowed him to somewhat throw the ball forward. If Garrett chops down on the forearm, it's a sack-fumble and possibly a defensive TD. The difference between an incomplete pass and 7 points can literally come down to a few inches. Garrett is very close, and I'm looking for him to break through tomorrow. 

  • I am looking at who stops the run this game will be the winner.  Conner vrs Chubb/hunt.   our receivers are better which will put us on top.

    @lbc-mike said:

    I am looking at who stops the run this game will be the winner.  Conner vrs Chubb/hunt.   our receivers are better which will put us on top.

    Our receivers are better.  Our RBs are better.  Our QB is better.   Their OL is better. 

    Our defense should be better....but it is not playing better.    That pathetic performance vs. Denver still irks.  Although they only gave up 24 points...there was some horrendous tackling effort in that game, which lost it for them. 

  • @icecube said:

    Weapons? Possibly

    I'm sorry but when I think of weapons (I think skill position) I don't see how you only view it as possibly having better weapons.

    OBJ vs Smith Schuster (adv OBJ)

    Landry vs Johnson or Washington (adv Landry)

    Higgins and Callaway vs the one not chosen above and Switzer (close but I've got Higgy and Callaway)

    Chubb and Hunt vs Connor and Samuel/Snell (adv chubb and Hunt)

    Harris vs McDonald/Vannet (this is only weapon I give advantage to squeelers and if its njoku also it's real close)

    The browns absolutely have more talented weapons without question. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    I'm sorry but when I think of weapons (I think skill position) I don't see how you only view it as possibly having better weapons.

    OBJ vs Smith Schuster (adv OBJ)

    Landry vs Johnson or Washington (adv Landry)

    Higgins and Callaway vs the one not chosen above and Switzer (close but I've got Higgy and Callaway)

    Chubb and Hunt vs Connor and Samuel/Snell (adv chubb and Hunt)

    Harris vs McDonald/Vannet (this is only weapon I give advantage to squeelers and if its njoku also it's real close)

    The browns absolutely have more talented weapons without question. 

    We have more talent, but one could argue they have better coaching.

    Minkah is playng out of this world right now and the D is no joke.

    It's a matter of correct playcalling.

  • Really bad match-up for the Browns, I can't see Baker and the passing game doing much at all against this D line & secondary. Maybe Chubb and Hunt can go off... 

    @falcon7 said:

    Really bad match-up for the Browns, I can't see Baker and the passing game doing much at all against this D line & secondary. Maybe Chubb and Hunt can go off... 

    I agree if we are trying to send 5 WRs down the field as we have through most of the year 

    First you find Watt.

    But It’s a Kareem Hunt screen game with the threat of Chubb on the ground and then matching up and taking shots against Joe Haden.

    If we do that lovely empty set the Steelers will blitz and either sack or interrupt routes early.  Their D is always well coached and the front is always in sync with the back 7.  

    Freddie needs to have an out of body play calling experience Thursday night for us to pull this out. 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    I'm sorry but when I think of weapons (I think skill position) I don't see how you only view it as possibly having better weapons.

    OBJ vs Smith Schuster (adv OBJ)

    Landry vs Johnson or Washington (adv Landry)

    Higgins and Callaway vs the one not chosen above and Switzer (close but I've got Higgy and Callaway)

    Chubb and Hunt vs Connor and Samuel/Snell (adv chubb and Hunt)

    Harris vs McDonald/Vannet (this is only weapon I give advantage to squeelers and if its njoku also it's real close)

    The browns absolutely have more talented weapons without question. 

    We have more talent, but one could argue they have better coaching.

    Minkah is playng out of this world right now and the D is no joke.

    It's a matter of correct playcalling.

    @stillmotion said:

    We have more talent, but one could argue they have better coaching.

    Minkah is playng out of this world right now and the D is no joke.

    It's a matter of correct playcalling.

    There is really no argument. They clearly have better coaching. 

  • I'm fine even if the Browns have to line up in a wishbone formation and screw with the squealers minds. Just beat the steelers.

    Speaking of screwing with minds, like Kosar did, I loved the long throw on the first play of the game. Didn't connect, Baker overthrew it a bit, 

  • @falcon7 said:

    Really bad match-up for the Browns, I can't see Baker and the passing game doing much at all against this D line & secondary. Maybe Chubb and Hunt can go off... 

    I agree if we are trying to send 5 WRs down the field as we have through most of the year 

    First you find Watt.

    But It’s a Kareem Hunt screen game with the threat of Chubb on the ground and then matching up and taking shots against Joe Haden.

    If we do that lovely empty set the Steelers will blitz and either sack or interrupt routes early.  Their D is always well coached and the front is always in sync with the back 7.  

    Freddie needs to have an out of body play calling experience Thursday night for us to pull this out. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    But It’s a Kareem Hunt screen game 

    If the passing offense doesn't get off the ground, then it's likely the screen game is done-zo with it.  

  • we run the damn ball chew up the clock force pit to throw if we knock rudolph off his mark as tour said a sack or worse  Hopefully we will see more Brown and Orange at the game than black and yellow

  • Im excited to see the Haden vs OBJ matchup. I’m expecting that Odell will shine in prime time.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Im excited to see the Haden vs OBJ matchup. I’m expecting that Odell will shine in prime time.

    Haden is sick. Might not play! 

    Tell you what, we HAVE to connect if we get that open deep shot again. 

  • Browns have to be able to run the ball to win the game. I think they can from what I have seen in some previous Pittsburgh games. If they aren't able to run the ball Baker is going to be under seige.

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Im excited to see the Haden vs OBJ matchup. I’m expecting that Odell will shine in prime time.

    Haden is sick. Might not play! 

    Tell you what, we HAVE to connect if we get that open deep shot again. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Haden is sick. Might not play! 

    Tell you what, we HAVE to connect if we get that open deep shot again. 

    Haden is playing tonight.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Haden is sick. Might not play! 

    Tell you what, we HAVE to connect if we get that open deep shot again. 

    Haden is playing tonight.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Haden is playing tonight.

    And got burned for a TD.  LOL!?