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  • T TexasAg1969

    Too Bad!  Malik was considered the very best overall player in Texas the year he signed with U.Texas-Austin. A five-star player, he won the Butkus Award as the best High School LB in the nation. I thought he came out too early when he declared for the 2018 draft. I wish I had been wrong. We could have used him had he spent more time with better coaching than what he got under Charlie Strong, the worst hire for HC that UT Austin ever made.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Jefferson

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    Too Bad!  Malik was considered the very best overall player in Texas the year he signed with U.Texas-Austin. A five-star player, he won the Butkus Award as the best High School LB in the nation. I thought he came out too early when he declared for the 2018 draft. I wish I had been wrong. We could have used him had he spent more time with better coaching than what he got under Charlie Strong, the worst hire for HC that UT Austin ever made.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Jefferson

    U.Texas-Austin?   Never heard of it.  Heard of UTSA....is that what you are talking about?

    Or...wait...perhaps you were referring the THE University OF Texas.

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      @texasag1969 said:

      Too Bad!  Malik was considered the very best overall player in Texas the year he signed with U.Texas-Austin. A five-star player, he won the Butkus Award as the best High School LB in the nation. I thought he came out too early when he declared for the 2018 draft. I wish I had been wrong. We could have used him had he spent more time with better coaching than what he got under Charlie Strong, the worst hire for HC that UT Austin ever made.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Jefferson

      U.Texas-Austin?   Never heard of it.  Heard of UTSA....is that what you are talking about?

      Or...wait...perhaps you were referring the THE University OF Texas.

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      @the-gipper said:

      U.Texas-Austin?   Never heard of it.  Heard of UTSA....is that what you are talking about?

      Or...wait...perhaps you were referring the THE University OF Texas.

      LOL! You mean tu right?? BTW one of my UT friends thinks it is hilarious I like to goad her with tu when I actually have a Masters Degree from there.?

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        @ibleedbrown said:

        I agree. Harris has stepped it up the last couple games. Made a few clutch catches.

        Do me a solid favor, am way behind this week & off to work.. Look at the goal line failures & tell me where our TE's lineup? 1 0r 2 both on ends of Line? on straight ahead dive plays? Harris & Carlson our 230lbs. soaking wet.. Seals,P.Brown & Njoku are all around 246lbs. Did we try to line-up the wet noodle TE"s as H-backs? Thanks if ya can get to it sometime.. 

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        @gumby73 said:

        Do me a solid favor, am way behind this week & off to work.. Look at the goal line failures & tell me where our TE's lineup? 1 0r 2 both on ends of Line? on straight ahead dive plays? Harris & Carlson our 230lbs. soaking wet.. Seals,P.Brown & Njoku are all around 246lbs. Did we try to line-up the wet noodle TE"s as H-backs? Thanks if ya can get to it sometime.. 

        1st down 3 tight end set and an extra o lineman. Carlson lined up in front of Chubb in the I formation One of Harris/Brown motioned into backfield offset left the other was on the end of the line

        2nd down 2 tight end set unbalanced line to the right. Harris offset right in backfield Carlson on left end of line.

        3rd down (pass play to OBJ resulting in DPI) both Harris and Carlson on end of line to right

        1st down Harris and Carlson again lined up on end of line right side Landry motions in right behind them

        2nd Down (fade to obj) 1 tight end. tight bunch to left. Harris lined up left side as the inside guy in the bunch

        3rd down same formation as above

        4th down 3 tight end set extra o lineman. Carlson lined up in front of Chubb in the I formation One of Harris/Brown motioned into backfield offset left the other was on the end of the line

        On the first 2nd down chubb wasn't aggressive enough hitting the hole or hit the wrong hole or he likely scores and on the 2nd 3rd down chubb slipped doing a jumpcut or he likely scores.

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          @the-gipper said:

          U.Texas-Austin?   Never heard of it.  Heard of UTSA....is that what you are talking about?

          Or...wait...perhaps you were referring the THE University OF Texas.

          LOL! You mean tu right?? BTW one of my UT friends thinks it is hilarious I like to goad her with tu when I actually have a Masters Degree from there.?

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @texasag1969 said:

          LOL! You mean tu right?? BTW one of my UT friends thinks it is hilarious I like to goad her with tu when I actually have a Masters Degree from there.?

          You know, really....most of the rest of the world doesn't care if you call it TU or UT......though,  those of us who are affiliated think that if you do say TU....in that part of the country....you mean Trinity University.   You know, the one good school in that section of the nation.

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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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            Njoku told ESPN that he expects to be ready to go when the calendar allows his return. I have to think we activate him.

            Hargreaves.... very tricky thing here... dealing with a player who was released for lack of effort... other complication is that he's in year 4 of contract and his 5th year option has already been activated. If he is picked up off of waivers that contract stands and if he then plays and is injured then the contract becomes fully guaranteed. It's likley that teams are going to let him clear waivers and then deal with him as a UFA.

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              Njoku told ESPN that he expects to be ready to go when the calendar allows his return. I have to think we activate him.

              Hargreaves.... very tricky thing here... dealing with a player who was released for lack of effort... other complication is that he's in year 4 of contract and his 5th year option has already been activated. If he is picked up off of waivers that contract stands and if he then plays and is injured then the contract becomes fully guaranteed. It's likley that teams are going to let him clear waivers and then deal with him as a UFA.

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              @tour2ma said:

              Njoku told ESPN that he expects to be ready to go when the calendar allows his return. I have to think we activate him.

              Hargreaves.... very tricky thing here... dealing with a player who was released for lack of effort... other complication is that he's in year 4 of contract and his 5th year option has already been activated. If he is picked up off of waivers that contract stands and if he then plays and is injured then the contract becomes fully guaranteed. It's likley that teams are going to let him clear waivers and then deal with him as a UFA.

              Great point about the contract being the same if claimed off waivers. I had forgot about that and because of that I am leaning more towards not claiming him. However if he does clear waivers I wouldn't be opposed to giving him a look.  With the contract situation I really have no clue if he'll clear waivers.

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                Zombo said:

                We signed DE Bryan Cox Jr., recently of the Panthers to replace Jefferson. Need depth at DE with Vernon out.

                If we bring Forbes back, I'm not sure who goes on the O-line? What did everyone think of Teller's start? Is Kush expendable now?

                Zombo

                Is that the son of the old Jets LB....Mr. Can't Wait?

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                  @ibleedbrown said:

                  I agree. Harris has stepped it up the last couple games. Made a few clutch catches.

                  Do me a solid favor, am way behind this week & off to work.. Look at the goal line failures & tell me where our TE's lineup? 1 0r 2 both on ends of Line? on straight ahead dive plays? Harris & Carlson our 230lbs. soaking wet.. Seals,P.Brown & Njoku are all around 246lbs. Did we try to line-up the wet noodle TE"s as H-backs? Thanks if ya can get to it sometime.. 

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                  @gumby73 said:

                  Do me a solid favor, am way behind this week & off to work.. Look at the goal line failures & tell me where our TE's lineup? 1 0r 2 both on ends of Line? on straight ahead dive plays? Harris & Carlson our 230lbs. soaking wet.. Seals,P.Brown & Njoku are all around 246lbs. Did we try to line-up the wet noodle TE"s as H-backs? Thanks if ya can get to it sometime.. 

                  I didn’t get to record this one but bjh on it. I’ll get to record the Thur night game and look forward to prying into that one to see what l can see.

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                    Njoku told ESPN that he expects to be ready to go when the calendar allows his return. I have to think we activate him.

                    Hargreaves.... very tricky thing here... dealing with a player who was released for lack of effort... other complication is that he's in year 4 of contract and his 5th year option has already been activated. If he is picked up off of waivers that contract stands and if he then plays and is injured then the contract becomes fully guaranteed. It's likley that teams are going to let him clear waivers and then deal with him as a UFA.

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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Hargreaves.... very tricky thing here... dealing with a player who was released for lack of effort... other complication is that he's in year 4 of contract and his 5th year option has already been activated. If he is picked up off of waivers that contract stands and if he then plays and is injured then the contract becomes fully guaranteed. It's likley that teams are going to let him clear waivers and then deal with him as a UFA.

                    Bill Oh! Brien likes his gm title in Houston..Hargreaves picked up by Texans via Waivers... not O'Brien's gm issue next season😉 

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                      @gumby73 said:

                      Do me a solid favor, am way behind this week & off to work.. Look at the goal line failures & tell me where our TE's lineup? 1 0r 2 both on ends of Line? on straight ahead dive plays? Harris & Carlson our 230lbs. soaking wet.. Seals,P.Brown & Njoku are all around 246lbs. Did we try to line-up the wet noodle TE"s as H-backs? Thanks if ya can get to it sometime.. 

                      I didn’t get to record this one but bjh on it. I’ll get to record the Thur night game and look forward to prying into that one to see what l can see.

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                      @ibleedbrown said:

                      I didn’t get to record this one but bjh on it. I’ll get to record the Thur night game and look forward to prying into that one to see what l can see.

                      Me too under forced circumstances. Wifey decided that the ideal time for us to host our monthly bridge group is tonight from 6-9 pm CDT. So I get to miss the Tavern and record the game so I can see it as soon as I throw the last couple out the door (hopefully in time for the 2nd half KO or early 3rd Q live).? Glad it's on NFL Net or I would miss being able to go back for the 1st half and into the 2nd.

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                        LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                        don't worry.   I have to be at my daughter's figure skating and niece's birthday party on the Sunday we play the dolphin's.

                        tell my wife every year just give 16; days alone to watch the browns.  never fails she always plans something.   just fucking 16 days.  16!!!!

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                          don't worry.   I have to be at my daughter's figure skating and niece's birthday party on the Sunday we play the dolphin's.

                          tell my wife every year just give 16; days alone to watch the browns.  never fails she always plans something.   just fucking 16 days.  16!!!!

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                          @lbc-mike said:

                          don't worry.   I have to be at my daughter's figure skating and niece's birthday party on the Sunday we play the dolphin's.

                          tell my wife every year just give 16; days alone to watch the browns.  never fails she always plans something.   just fucking 16 days.  16!!!!

                          LOL! Ah, the eternal optimist has no chance against the infernal planner.?

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                            Zombo said:

                            If we bring Forbes back, I'm not sure who goes on the O-line? What did everyone think of Teller's start? Is Kush expendable now?

                            Obviously Calloway was the expendable one...

                            Forbes has OT/OG swing capability which sets him apart... as for Teller v Kush. Teller is the better PassPro OG; Kush the better run OG. And Kush is the more Run/Pass balanced of the two. But neither is very good so it really depends on who shows more promise. It's early, but I think that's Teller

                            Hardly matters tho... going to be a decent Day 2 to go OG fishing come the 2020 Draft.... including an UGA RG named Ben Cleveland. It might be destiny...

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                              Zombo said:

                              If we bring Forbes back, I'm not sure who goes on the O-line? What did everyone think of Teller's start? Is Kush expendable now?

                              Obviously Calloway was the expendable one...

                              Forbes has OT/OG swing capability which sets him apart... as for Teller v Kush. Teller is the better PassPro OG; Kush the better run OG. And Kush is the more Run/Pass balanced of the two. But neither is very good so it really depends on who shows more promise. It's early, but I think that's Teller

                              Hardly matters tho... going to be a decent Day 2 to go OG fishing come the 2020 Draft.... including an UGA RG named Ben Cleveland. It might be destiny...

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                              @tour2ma said:

                              Hardly matters tho... going to be a decent Day 2 to go OG fishing come the 2020 Draft.... including an UGA RG named Ben Cleveland. It might be destiny...

                              He plays at home this weekend against my Ags on CBS @ 330 EDT. UGA is a 13 point favorite. Would be worth watching how well he opens holes for Swift.

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                                Still have an underclass to declare, but this is not looking like a strong OL class at the top and its depth is questionable as well...especially at OT.

                                I'm looking forward to some deep diving come the New Year.

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                                  Still have an underclass to declare, but this is not looking like a strong OL class at the top and its depth is questionable as well...especially at OT.

                                  I'm looking forward to some deep diving come the New Year.

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  Still have an underclass to declare, but this is not looking like a strong OL class at the top and its depth is questionable as well...especially at OT.

                                  I'm looking forward to some deep diving come the New Year.

                                  Well, where would the Browns draft if they go like 9-7 or 8-8?  (Hopefully 9-7 or....10-6!!).

                                  Middle of round one? 

                                  Are you really making us go into searching the draft mode?  Oi!

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                                    Since you insisted we go there, here are the CBS  2020 NFL draft prospects that they have rated from position #10 to 20:

                                    10 Javon Kinlaw South Carolina Sr DL 1 6-6 310    
                                    11 A.J. Epenesa Iowa Jr EDGE 2 6-6 280    
                                    12 Henry Ruggs III Alabama Jr WR 3 6-0 190    
                                    13 Derrick Brown Auburn Sr DL 2 6-5 318    
                                    14 Kristian Fulton LSU Sr CB 2 6-0 200    
                                    15 Tristan Wirfs Iowa Jr OL 2 6-5 322    
                                    16 D'Andre Swift Georgia Jr RB 1 5-9 215    
                                    17 Kenneth Murray Oklahoma Jr LB 1 6-2 234    
                                    18 Tee Higgins Clemson Jr WR 4 6-4 215    
                                    19 Yetur Gross-Matos Penn St. Jr EDGE 3 6-5 264    
                                    20 Laviska Shenault Jr. Colorado Jr WR 5 6-2 220  

                                    See anything there we can use?   What about Wirfs the OL from Iowa?  or the LB from Oklahoma? 

                                    FYI,  both #1  AND #2 on this list are Ohio State Buckeyes:   Chase Young DE and Jeff Okudah DB

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