Myles
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And if a frog's ass wasn't watertight he'd drown.
I agree, the product on the field is the product on the field. However two concussions for helmet to helmet hits on two of our starting receivers and then the Garrett bs. All I'm saying is people should probably not be walking around puffing the chest out. Lol
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Not particularly trying to justify this, that really can't be done, but didn't somebody attempt to yank off Myles helmet and he foolishly retaliated in fury?
That's what we thought as we were watching it and that's what are the some of the comments seem to indicate. I hope that influences the decision on the suspension.
WSS
Not particularly trying to justify this, that really can't be done, but didn't somebody attempt to yank off Myles helmet and he foolishly retaliated in fury?
That's what we thought as we were watching it and that's what are the some of the comments seem to indicate. I hope that influences the decision on the suspension.
WSS
See my analysis on the other thread on how this would be argued...and perhaps decided in a court setting.
The issues of provocation....and victim impact (or lack thereoff) should be in play.....like they would in a court situation, and like they would be in an appeal to any "harsh" sentence handed down.
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And if a frog's ass wasn't watertight he'd drown.
I agree, the product on the field is the product on the field. However two concussions for helmet to helmet hits on two of our starting receivers and then the Garrett bs. All I'm saying is people should probably not be walking around puffing the chest out. Lol
I agree, the product in the field is the product on the field. However two concussions for helmet to helmet hits on two of our starting receivers and then the Garrett bs. All I'm saying is people should probably not be walking around puffing the chest out. Lol
Uh, your team employs and celebrates a serial rapist who actually hurt people - you know, the people he raped - and you're out here on your high horse.
If Watt did this to Baker after Baker had a tantrum you'd love it
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Oh fucking please. Harrison took out Josh Cribbs and Colt McCoy helmet-to-helmet in the same game and Steeler fans cheered long and loud. I was driving home from Erie on I-79 when Antonio kicked our punter in the face and Stan and the rest of the boys were yukking it up in the DVE booth. "Boy, he wasn't expecting THAT, was he?" Spare me the outrage.
If the Steelers didn't want Mason to get touched with 8 seconds left in the game, then they should have simply taken a knee. Don't send your receivers down the field and then complain because someone hit your quarterback.
Garrett completely lost it on the field and he most definitely should be punished. But give the self-righteous indignation a rest.
Gtfo. Helmet to helmet hits are one thing, dragging a qb by his head a few feet and then clubbing him with his own helmet is on another level you deluded **MASK**.
and brown was just trying to make a play, it wasn’t like “oh I’m going to karate kid this dude in the face”
They aren’t close to the same and you have to be a serious dumb ass to think different. You should just be glad Ben is sidelined for the year or you would have gotten throttled on the scoreboard too.
Gtfo. Helmet to helmet hits are one thing, dragging a qb by his head a few feet and then clubbing him with his own helmet is on another level you deluded **MASK**.
and brown was just trying to make a play, it wasn’t like “oh I’m going to karate kid this dude in the face”
They aren’t close to the same and you have to be a serious dumb ass to think different. You should just be glad Ben is sidelined for the year or you would have gotten throttled on the scoreboard too.
Will you, at the very minimum, acknowledge that after he tore Rudolph's helmet off, Garrett was backing up, with two Steeler lineman between him and Rudolph while Rudolph charged at him? Jesus, you Steeler fans act like Garrett waited until the play was over and then just started beating Rudolph with his own helmet. There is plenty of blame to go around in this incident.
Garrett fucked up and deserves to be suspended. As does Pouncey.
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Gut feeling is they'll go 6 and will get reduced to four.
Can't we just be like OSU when a star DE goes out we just replace them with a 5 star recruit? ?
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I thought Baker Mayfield showed a lot of maturity, wisdom and leadership in his interview directly after the game with his comments about what Garrett did being inexcusable and hurting the team. We just had a big win over the Steelers coming after a big win over the Bills. We should be celebrating now and moving forward but all anyone is going to talk about is what Garrett did with 8 seconds left in a game we had already won. Now more than ever the team is going to need leadership. Mayfield has taken the first step with his comments and Garrett himself has taken responsibility for his actions and apologized for them. What Garrett did is in the rear view mirror now and today is the first day of the rest of the season for the Browns. Next up the Dolphins. The Browns can overcome this and move forward but it is going to take leadership.
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Gut feeling is they'll go 6 and will get reduced to four.
Can't we just be like OSU when a star DE goes out we just replace them with a 5 star recruit? ?
Gut feeling is they'll go 6 and will get reduced to four.
Can't we just be like OSU when a star DE goes out we just replace them with a 5 star recruit? ?
Yeah if only......like you have extra #1 DE draft picks just sitting on the bench.
......yeah and the BUCKEYES D is loaded. They opened as a 50' favorite and now are a 53 point favorite after losing their star player.
Oh I just checked the BROWNS opened a 9 point favorite at home vs the Doll-fins and are now a 9.5 point favorite. Sound about right?
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every place is talking about this. even local news in Cali. NFL is going to come down hard on this.
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every place is talking about this. even local news in Cali. NFL is going to come down hard on this.
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It is actually in the rule book:
Swinging of helmet: 15 yard penalty and automatic ejection.
Max Kellerman is acknowledging Mason Rudolph should be suspended for his role.
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What character....he has been cheap shotting all season??!??
What the hell are you talking about?
You want to cut Garrett who absolutely destroyed the Steelers but made a bone head decision in a fight that another guy started AND you wanna pay Joe Schobert top tier middle linebacker money? Joe is a smart player, but he is far from Luke Kuechly.. Glad your not running the team. You can go hang out with the choir boys at church on Sundays instead of watching the Browns if you want.
Jesus, Ray Lewis was with a group of guys that murdered somebody and he's in the Hall of Fame, James Harrison made his career spearing guys in the side of the helmet year after year and the Steelers fans ate it up with a spoon, the Bengals used Burfict year after year.... The rest of the AFC North really has nothing to say.
What the hell are you talking about?
You want to cut Garrett who absolutely destroyed the Steelers but made a bone head decision in a fight that another guy started AND you wanna pay Joe Schobert top tier middle linebacker money? Joe is a smart player, but he is far from Luke Kuechly.. Glad your not running the team. You can go hang out with the choir boys at church on Sundays instead of watching the Browns if you want.
Jesus, Ray Lewis was with a group of guys that murdered somebody and he's in the Hall of Fame, James Harrison made his career spearing guys in the side of the helmet year after year and the Steelers fans ate it up with a spoon, the Bengals used Burfict year after year.... The rest of the AFC North really has nothing to
Fined 52k for helmet to helmet hits...how many roughing penalties...the guy is a menace. He is just starting his career.
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Indeed, it's inexcusable. 6 games sounds about right for me because the Siemian one looked like an accident to me and I don't remember the Walker one. Myles is not known as a "dirty-cheap shot" player like Burfict so it would be his first long suspension. If they suspend him more games I'll be OK, it was risky as hell what he did.
Anyway, what do you think about Rudolph? He's getting some heat for acting like a victim when he also started the brawl. He got the worst part? Yes. But he is not innocent.
Watch the play again. Rudolph's glove is stuck in some part of Garrett's helmet. I'm sure he was pissed to be taken down but he was also trying to get his hand unstuck. Emotions run high for all of us so it looks malicious but there are Browns fans on my board saying the same thing. Rudolph had his hand stuck. Garrett is going to get more than 6 dude unless they take the "rest of the season" approach as enough. It was assault.
Watch the play again. Rudolph's glove is stuck in some part of Garrett's helmet. I'm sure he was pissed to be taken down but he was also trying to get his hand unstuck. Emotions run high for all of us so it looks malicious but there are Browns fans on my board saying the same thing. Rudolph had his hand stuck. Garrett is going to get more than 6 dude unless they take the "rest of the season" approach as enough. It was assault.
Assault. Fuck mason Rudolph and the Steelers and the horse they rode in on.
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Except for the part where Garrett's helmet is twisted to the point that he's looking out the ear hole.
"Chasing sacks, hence taking Rudolph to the ground with 8 seconds left." So, with 8 seconds left in a two score game, the Steelers are still trying to score but Garrett is at fault because he didn't take a knee? Right.
Look, I get it: Garrett deserves a suspension. But can we please stop acting like Rudolph was serving Thanksgiving dinner to the homeless when Garrett suddenly for no reason decided to start whaling on him with his own helmet? After Garrett tore his helmet off he is clearly backing away with Pouncey and another Steeler lineman between him and Rudolph. Rudolph chooses to be the aggressor and charges at him when Myles loses it. Again, Myles deserves a suspension. But comparing him to Burfect is asinine.
P.S. James Harrison says hello.
James Harrison never did anything close, ever and the steelers weren't "trying to score" as they ran one damn play. They weren't burning timeouts. Garrett didn't need to take Rudolph to the ground and what Garrett did is the dirtiest thing I've seen in professional sports. Period.
James Harrison never did anything close, ever and the steelers weren't "trying to score" as they ran one damn play. They weren't burning timeouts. Garrett didn't need to take Rudolph to the ground and what Garrett did is the dirtiest thing I've seen in professional sports. Period.
you're wrong on every statement in this post.
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Nope, my pal pointed this out- Garrett was after a sack on a meaningless play- to pad his stats. You do remember Myles wanted to lead the league there.
If you want to count this a payback for Headhunter Harrison- well Myles just hurt the team by getting suspended. Not official yet but it's just a question of how many games, not if.
If the oldsters want to label it as another Turkey Jones moment- have at it...
Well, that isn't any worse than tomlin calling the play he did. What was the point? eight freaking seconds?
I suspect they called that play because they wanted to start a big fight and get Garrett, the Browns' start DE left on the line, suspended.
Remember, Tomlin is the toad that tried to trip a player running down the sideline. They play the refs. Like their TE shoulder bumping the Browns db, and turning left but the pass was behind him, incomplete. Of course, the refs called pi on the db.
that is just so bogus...
Well, that isn't any worse than tomlin calling the play he did. What was the point? eight freaking seconds?
I suspect they called that play because they wanted to start a big fight and get Garrett, the Browns' start DE left on the line, suspended.
Remember, Tomlin is the toad that tried to trip a player running down the sideline. They play the refs. Like their TE shoulder bumping the Browns db, and turning left but the pass was behind him, incomplete. Of course, the refs called pi on the db.
that is just so bogus...
When PoG upvotes your post, you know you have got to really rethink your position on the matter...........
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Except for the part where Garrett's helmet is twisted to the point that he's looking out the ear hole.
"Chasing sacks, hence taking Rudolph to the ground with 8 seconds left." So, with 8 seconds left in a two score game, the Steelers are still trying to score but Garrett is at fault because he didn't take a knee? Right.
Look, I get it: Garrett deserves a suspension. But can we please stop acting like Rudolph was serving Thanksgiving dinner to the homeless when Garrett suddenly for no reason decided to start whaling on him with his own helmet? After Garrett tore his helmet off he is clearly backing away with Pouncey and another Steeler lineman between him and Rudolph. Rudolph chooses to be the aggressor and charges at him when Myles loses it. Again, Myles deserves a suspension. But comparing him to Burfect is asinine.
P.S. James Harrison says hello.
James Harrison never did anything close, ever and the steelers weren't "trying to score" as they ran one damn play. They weren't burning timeouts. Garrett didn't need to take Rudolph to the ground and what Garrett did is the dirtiest thing I've seen in professional sports. Period.
James Harrison never did anything close, ever and the steelers weren't "trying to score" as they ran one damn play. They weren't burning timeouts. Garrett didn't need to take Rudolph to the ground and what Garrett did is the dirtiest thing I've seen in professional sports. Period.
Fuck off. Harrison nearly killed at least three of our players with blindside hits. Mason got booped on the nose and he started that fight. What Damarious Randall did might have legit killed that guy. But that gets excused as a football play. Garrett shouldn't have taken the bait and that's on him but Mason Rudolph had an ass whipping coming. He's probably lucky as fuck Marquis pouncey was there to babysit him.
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LOL okay, so you're gonna sit there and act like Rudolph didn't attack Garrett?
Garrett had Rudolph in a bear hug- and didn't let go. MHO? As dirty as anything Vontaze Burfect ever did. Provoked or not- you just don't rip a players helmet off and hit him in the head with it. Suspended for the rest of the year? Not out of the question...
Stupid- totally. The game was over- no reason for that BS.
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