Myles
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Not to anyone’s surprise the media is all over the browns. This was just what they were waiting for. The browns struggling they loved but now they are all in. So not only are they saying the browns are undisciplined but now they are saying they are teaching this culture. Even though the penalties have drop significantly over the past three games. Now not only is this a lie but to me warrants a lawsuit. So now they are going to push this narrative to disrupt and form decent in the locker room. Which for what ever reason they get off on. So as with the political media they are spreading lies and not presenting the fact, which they don’t know. What we do know
1. Mason started the fight.
2. Mason grabbed his face Mask first
3. After the two were separated mason re-engaged garrett
4. Mason punches Garrett in the balls before the swing
5. After the hit pouncy comes in lands 6 punches and a kick.
6. After the game Freddie said Garrett told him what mason said but could not repeat it.
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Agree...... but it was a pussy move.
and pouncey's wasn't it? trying to kick Garrett's face in while he was on the ground restrained? mason starting the whole thing because his little sissy self got sacked AGAIN and the squealers embarrassed themselves most ot the game?
So much for tomlin being a great coach. Kitchens outcoached him today. lol
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Thats true they can appeal, but I don't see Myles getting much leniency during an appeal. I can see Ogunjobi having his suspension removed though what he did isn't suspension worthy.
Lets put it this way....sure, it is possible that the league office can take the same approach as the Rs do to the BOM's impeachment....ignore all facts and evidence and circumstances and have a predetermined view of the matter. Or, they can act like a real judicial body and take in all the facts, evidence and circumstances in this case. They should consider the provocation, they should consider the impact to the alleged victim/provacateur, and other things. Or, they can be like the OJ jury and just say: we done made up our mind before this whole thing started.
Lets put it this way....sure, it is possible that the league office can take the same approach as the Rs do to the BOM's impeachment....ignore all facts and evidence and circumstances and have a predetermined view of the matter. Or, they can act like a real judicial body and take in all the facts, evidence and circumstances in this case. They should consider the provocation, they should consider the impact to the alleged victim/provacateur, and other things. Or, they can be like the OJ jury and just say: we done made up our mind before this whole thing started.
I hope the NFL is honest enough to realize the entire thing was STARTED BY SISSY MASON. and made a lot worse by SISSY MASON when he went after Garrett, the second time. (oh, and kicked Garrett in the groin the first time).
What's worse - a self-defense against being restrained, kicked in the groin, trying to rip his helmet off, thrown to the ground, stomped on and punched in the head/face by a 320 offensive lineman...
or a whip of a helmet against the initial attacker? tomlin was a moron for putting his qb in position for another sack at the end. that was just STUPID. sissy mason should have gone after tomlin !
Sissy girly-man mason could have scratched Myles' eyes out.
Garrett will get suspended, so should sissy mason and Pouncy. The out of control garbage started with the stinking squealer three rivers scum qb.
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What ever happened to being held responsible for your actions? I'm 51 and I was taught that lesson at an early age. Most people here gloss right over what Myles did, and they can't spout enough about how he was "provoked".
I am solely talking about what Myles did.... not how he got to that point in time where he had a fucking football helmet in is hand, saw the player who he was mad at had no head protection, and decided to hit him in his head with the helmet as hard as he could..... That's solely what I am discussing. That single act in time. Period.
WTF ever happened to simply being held accountable for your actions? Thank you Mom and Dad for instilling that in me, and more importantly, for then allowing me to instill it into my daughter.
Myles deserves his suspension but don't for one second that was as hard as he could hit
Myles deserves his suspension but don't for one second that was as hard as he could hit
..................... pretty much what every woman beater says to the police when asked how she got that black eye. "If I woulda hit her, she wouldn't be here to talk about it".
^ Life Goals.
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I don't think anyone is defending it as a punishable offense.
The question is: how punishable?
Again, I hate to be a realist....or what some of you may want to call a legalist, but in any situation like this a whole range of factors have to be and probably will be taken into account.
I know that the minds of some of you can't fathom anything that goes beyond the content of what can fit on a bumper sticker, but in real jurisprudence situations, which, again, this is....a full and complete analysis of the entirety of the circumstances will become necessary.
What ever happened to being held responsible for your actions? I'm 51 and I was taught that lesson at an early age. Most people here gloss right over what Myles did, and they can't spout enough about how he was "provoked".
I am solely talking about what Myles did.... not how he got to that point in time where he had a fucking football helmet in is hand, saw the player who he was mad at had no head protection, and decided to hit him in his head with the helmet as hard as he could..... That's solely what I am discussing. That single act in time. Period.
WTF ever happened to simply being held accountable for your actions? Thank you Mom and Dad for instilling that in me, and more importantly, for then allowing me to instill it into my daughter.
What ever happened to being held responsible for your actions? I'm 51 and I was taught that lesson at an early age. Most people here gloss right over what Myles did, and they can't spout enough about how he was "provoked".
Hello! McFy...is anybody home? Nobody is saying that he should not be held responsible for his action. And it seems that YOU are the one doing the "glossing over"
I am solely talking about what Myles did.... not how he got to that point in time where he had a fucking football helmet in is hand, saw the player who he was mad at had no head protection, and decided to hit him in his head with the helmet as hard as he could..... That's solely what I am discussing. That single act in time. Period.
And that makes you completely UNFIT to ever make any decisions of importance to anyone else's life. Please, for God's sake, if you are ever called for jury duty....decline somehow to serve. Or...tell on voir dire exactly what you say here: "I have made up my mind, the defendant is charged ergo he must be guilty..and I don't care about anything else that may have happened or what anyone else says...I have a preconceived notion of what must be done, and I am sticking to it? FYI, you would be kicked off the jury pool in a New York minute.
WTF ever happened to simply being held accountable for your actions? Thank you Mom and Dad for instilling that in me, and more importantly, for then allowing me to instill it into my daughter.
Then your parents did a poor job, and you are doing a poor job at raising your kid. You are saying, apparently to her: Always come to a premature conclusion on things. Never let anything else of relevance ever come betwee you and your biases and prejudices and your preconceptions. Always make snap judgments on bare bone facts.
I think you would be better off teaching your daughter: "in the most important decisions in your life, be patient. Consider all options, hear all sides, make an informed and intelligent decision. Don't let your first instinct be the sole deciding factor. Seek counseling and advice on the important decisions you make. Don't be rash. If after you have deliberated and heard all sides and considered all options, then you can make what hopefully is the right decision."
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I didn't say it wasn't. I was merely talking about the dude in question coming up from behind another dude and shoving him to the ground.... Pussy move all day where I come from, but I wouldn't suspend him for it.
sissy mason deserved to get his ass kicked. he started the fiasco. apparently enraged that the refs didn't give them their customary help to win the game earlier. Mason attacked Garrett TWICE, I would have shoved him on his ass just to get his attention so he didn't go after Garrett a third time. I never once had anything against sissy mason til that gutless attack on Garrett over a very clean sack.
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Is Rudolph not facing suspension?
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What ever happened to being held responsible for your actions? I'm 51 and I was taught that lesson at an early age. Most people here gloss right over what Myles did, and they can't spout enough about how he was "provoked".
Hello! McFy...is anybody home? Nobody is saying that he should not be held responsible for his action. And it seems that YOU are the one doing the "glossing over"
I am solely talking about what Myles did.... not how he got to that point in time where he had a fucking football helmet in is hand, saw the player who he was mad at had no head protection, and decided to hit him in his head with the helmet as hard as he could..... That's solely what I am discussing. That single act in time. Period.
And that makes you completely UNFIT to ever make any decisions of importance to anyone else's life. Please, for God's sake, if you are ever called for jury duty....decline somehow to serve. Or...tell on voir dire exactly what you say here: "I have made up my mind, the defendant is charged ergo he must be guilty..and I don't care about anything else that may have happened or what anyone else says...I have a preconceived notion of what must be done, and I am sticking to it? FYI, you would be kicked off the jury pool in a New York minute.
WTF ever happened to simply being held accountable for your actions? Thank you Mom and Dad for instilling that in me, and more importantly, for then allowing me to instill it into my daughter.
Then your parents did a poor job, and you are doing a poor job at raising your kid. You are saying, apparently to her: Always come to a premature conclusion on things. Never let anything else of relevance ever come betwee you and your biases and prejudices and your preconceptions. Always make snap judgments on bare bone facts.
I think you would be better off teaching your daughter: "in the most important decisions in your life, be patient. Consider all options, hear all sides, make an informed and intelligent decision. Don't let your first instinct be the sole deciding factor. Seek counseling and advice on the important decisions you make. Don't be rash. If after you have deliberated and heard all sides and considered all options, then you can make what hopefully is the right decision."
..... and you can go fuck yourself. Yea, I'm fully aware of my actions there.
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Max Kellerman take
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To say that a lawsuit should be brought against the media is foolish. You then could have lawsuits against every media person for every program aired every day.
It would be a SLAPP Suit.
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If you want to see the entire, hilarious program, see here:
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I don't think anyone is defending it as a punishable offense.
The question is: how punishable?
Again, I hate to be a realist....or what some of you may want to call a legalist, but in any situation like this a whole range of factors have to be and probably will be taken into account.
I know that the minds of some of you can't fathom anything that goes beyond the content of what can fit on a bumper sticker, but in real jurisprudence situations, which, again, this is....a full and complete analysis of the entirety of the circumstances will become necessary.
What ever happened to being held responsible for your actions? I'm 51 and I was taught that lesson at an early age. Most people here gloss right over what Myles did, and they can't spout enough about how he was "provoked".
I am solely talking about what Myles did.... not how he got to that point in time where he had a fucking football helmet in is hand, saw the player who he was mad at had no head protection, and decided to hit him in his head with the helmet as hard as he could..... That's solely what I am discussing. That single act in time. Period.
WTF ever happened to simply being held accountable for your actions? Thank you Mom and Dad for instilling that in me, and more importantly, for then allowing me to instill it into my daughter.
What ever happened to being held responsible for your actions?
Pouncey, Sissy Mason, Garrett should all be held responsible for their actions. Nobody is disputing that, except for people who ignore what started it, what aggravated it and who piled on.
I'm 51 and I was taught that lesson at an early age. Most people here gloss right over what Myles did, and they can't spout enough about how he was "provoked".
Were you taught about self-defense? Miles was attacked first, AND second to his groin, he grabbed sissy mason's helmet after sissy mason tried to rip his head/helmet off for NO GOOD REASON. He should have dropped the helmet, but still was being attacked AGAIN by sissy mason, WHILE BEING RESTRAINED. Were you taught about getting ALL THE FACTS?
I am solely talking about what Myles did.... not how he got to that point in time where he had a fucking football helmet in is hand, saw the player who he was mad at had no head protection, and decided to hit him in his head with the helmet as hard as he could..... That's solely what I am discussing. That single act in time. Period.
Like I said - all the facts. It's invalid to say "so and so shot the man" when the man broke into your home, and had a gun to shoot you first if he could, but he missed with his first shot.
WTF ever happened to simply being held accountable for your actions? Thank you Mom and Dad for instilling that in me, and more importantly, for then allowing me to instill it into my daughter.
ALL THE FACTS BEFORE YOU JUDGE.
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Myles Garrett suspended for the rest of the regular season and postseason in 2019, right now at least at this time. Mason Rudolph and the Steelers will also proceed to press criminal charges to Garrett for assault.
Myles Garrett suspended for the rest of the regular season and postseason in 2019, right now at least at this time. Mason Rudolph and the Steelers will also proceed to press criminal charges to Garrett for assault.
No worries they haven’t stopped Garrett yet don’t expect this to in the long run either
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Max Kellerman take
Max Kellerman take
that is excellent. smart take - the FIRST guy..
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I mean, the NFL had to do this the way they did. This is the main line on every major news outlet and would continue to be until they made a decision. Only reason it's indefinite is if the squad makes the playoffs. Adrian Peterson beat his kid and only had to sit out a year.
What a nightmare this season has ended up being, wow.
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..... and you can go fuck yourself. Yea, I'm fully aware of my actions there.
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Not to anyone’s surprise the media is all over the browns. This was just what they were waiting for. The browns struggling they loved but now they are all in. So not only are they saying the browns are undisciplined but now they are saying they are teaching this culture. Even though the penalties have drop significantly over the past three games. Now not only is this a lie but to me warrants a lawsuit. So now they are going to push this narrative to disrupt and form decent in the locker room. Which for what ever reason they get off on. So as with the political media they are spreading lies and not presenting the fact, which they don’t know. What we do know
1. Mason started the fight.
2. Mason grabbed his face Mask first
3. After the two were separated mason re-engaged garrett
4. Mason punches Garrett in the balls before the swing
5. After the hit pouncy comes in lands 6 punches and a kick.
6. After the game Freddie said Garrett told him what mason said but could not repeat it.
Not to anyone’s surprise the media is all over the browns. This was just what they were waiting for. The browns struggling they loved but now they are all in. So not only are they saying the browns are undisciplined but now they are saying they are teaching this culture. Even though the penalties have drop significantly over the past three games. Now not only is this a lie but to me warrants a lawsuit. So now they are going to push this narrative to disrupt and form decent in the locker room. Which for what ever reason they get off on. So as with the political media they are spreading lies and not presenting the fact, which they don’t know. What we do know
1. Mason started the fight.
2. Mason grabbed his face Mask first
3. After the two were separated mason re-engaged garrett
4. Mason punches Garrett in the balls before the swing
5. After the hit pouncy comes in lands 6 punches and a kick.
6. After the game Freddie said Garrett told him what mason said but could not repeat it.
I did not know #6. sounds like they set up Garrett to be suspended to give them a chance of beating the Browns in two weeks.
Well, tomlin tried to trip a player running down the sideline... would it surprise anybody if it was true?
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There are so many things wrong the entire situation.
Garret's reaction is inexcusable.
BUT, why with so very little time, did Pittsburgh feel the need to continue and try and push the ball downfield. You're down by 14 points. It will take a miracle to win. Call it a night and take a knee. If this were the case, I doubt we would see Garret going 110% at the QB. The amount of emotional and game intelligence NOT USED is mind numbing. -
I mean, the NFL had to do this the way they did. This is the main line on every major news outlet and would continue to be until they made a decision. Only reason it's indefinite is if the squad makes the playoffs. Adrian Peterson beat his kid and only had to sit out a year.
What a nightmare this season has ended up being, wow.
I mean, the NFL had to do this the way they did. This is the main line on every major news outlet and would continue to be until they made a decision. Only reason it's indefinite is if the squad makes the playoffs. Adrian Peterson beat his kid and only had to sit out a year.
What a nightmare this season has ended up being, wow.
Like I said...they DO succumb to media hysteria at times.
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There are so many things wrong the entire situation.
Garret's reaction is inexcusable.
BUT, why with so very little time, did Pittsburgh feel the need to continue and try and push the ball downfield. You're down by 14 points. It will take a miracle to win. Call it a night and take a knee. If this were the case, I doubt we would see Garret going 110% at the QB. The amount of emotional and game intelligence NOT USED is mind numbing.There are so many things wrong the entire situation.
Garret's reaction is inexcusable.
BUT, why with so very little time, did Pittsburgh feel the need to continue and try and push the ball downfield. You're down by 14 points. It will take a miracle to win. Call it a night and take a knee. If this were the case, I doubt we would see Garret going 110% at the QB. The amount of emotional and game intelligence NOT USED is mind numbing.I guess, we could also say: why didn't the Browns take their best defender off the field and save him from possible injury. The Browns scrubs on defense probably should have been in on that last play as well as the Steelers scrubs. I mean, Freddie sent in Gilbert to take the final snap after all the fufarol. Why not sit Garrett out?
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