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  • OBF, if you're trying to have some "gotcha" moment here about evolution, then I hate to disappoint you. I agree that Darwinian evolution is a theory; however, the preponderance of objective observations and evidence to support it far exceeds any religions' "evidence" of being true. Again, once Sunday schools are made to give equal time in study of evolution along with their biblical lessons - as science classes are now being made to give time and credence to religious dogma - then you'll have an argument. 

    The science classroom is for science, not religion. Religious ideology has no business in a science classroom. Full stop.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    OBF, if you're trying to have some "gotcha" moment here about evolution, then I hate to disappoint you. I agree that Darwinian evolution is a theory; however, the preponderance of objective observations and evidence to support it far exceeds any religions' "evidence" of being true. Again, once Sunday schools are made to give equal time in study of evolution along with their biblical lessons - as science classes are now being made to give time and credence to religious dogma - then you'll have an argument. 

    The science classroom is for science, not religion. Religious ideology has no business in a science classroom. Full stop.

    Not a gotcha moment Jbluhm just making a valid point that it is not only a religious argument against evolution and all scientific sides of theory of evolution should be taught with both the arguments for and against. I agree with you to only say the bible doesn't support something is an argument that should not be made in a science class but if there are differing scientific views that should be presented.

  • Jblu is barking up the wrong tree on this one.

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  • OBF, if you're trying to have some "gotcha" moment here about evolution, then I hate to disappoint you. I agree that Darwinian evolution is a theory; however, the preponderance of objective observations and evidence to support it far exceeds any religions' "evidence" of being true. Again, once Sunday schools are made to give equal time in study of evolution along with their biblical lessons - as science classes are now being made to give time and credence to religious dogma - then you'll have an argument. 

    The science classroom is for science, not religion. Religious ideology has no business in a science classroom. Full stop.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    OBF, if you're trying to have some "gotcha" moment here about evolution, then I hate to disappoint you. I agree that Darwinian evolution is a theory; however, the preponderance of objective observations and evidence to support it far exceeds any religions' "evidence" of being true. Again, once Sunday schools are made to give equal time in study of evolution along with their biblical lessons - as science classes are now being made to give time and credence to religious dogma - then you'll have an argument. 

    The science classroom is for science, not religion. Religious ideology has no business in a science classroom. Full stop.

    I don't think Sunday school is in a credited form of Education. If it was kids could opt out of public school and just go to that right? But it no more relates to public school then piano lessons or dance classes outside of school property. Just saying.

    Of course unless the idea is to just Crush religion and keep it out of schools all together a workaround might be this... You would ask the questions about Darwinism or whatever and freeze them as such. What do the darwinists believe about evolution? And the Christian Child could answer that without betraying his faith.

    WSS

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    OBF, if you're trying to have some "gotcha" moment here about evolution, then I hate to disappoint you. I agree that Darwinian evolution is a theory; however, the preponderance of objective observations and evidence to support it far exceeds any religions' "evidence" of being true. Again, once Sunday schools are made to give equal time in study of evolution along with their biblical lessons - as science classes are now being made to give time and credence to religious dogma - then you'll have an argument. 

    The science classroom is for science, not religion. Religious ideology has no business in a science classroom. Full stop.

    I don't think Sunday school is in a credited form of Education. If it was kids could opt out of public school and just go to that right? But it no more relates to public school then piano lessons or dance classes outside of school property. Just saying.

    Of course unless the idea is to just Crush religion and keep it out of schools all together a workaround might be this... You would ask the questions about Darwinism or whatever and freeze them as such. What do the darwinists believe about evolution? And the Christian Child could answer that without betraying his faith.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Of course unless the idea is to just Crush religion and keep it out of schools all together a workaround might be this... You would ask the questions about Darwinism or whatever and freeze them as such. What do the darwinists believe about evolution? And the Christian Child could answer that without betraying his faith.

    WSS

    but that gives up the indoctrination by the left factor.

    Home schooling works excellently if you can arrange it.

  • good fucking luck J

  • good fucking luck J

    @mld-woody said:

    good fucking luck J

    more nothing from a nothingpecker.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Of course unless the idea is to just Crush religion and keep it out of schools all together a workaround might be this... You would ask the questions about Darwinism or whatever and freeze them as such. What do the darwinists believe about evolution? And the Christian Child could answer that without betraying his faith.

    WSS

    but that gives up the indoctrination by the left factor.

    Home schooling works excellently if you can arrange it.

    @calfoxwc said:

    but that gives up the indoctrination by the left factor.

    Home schooling works excellently if you can arrange it.

    Of course. My proposal would only work if the actual point of this was an equitable compromise in a country that still pretends to care about freedom of religion.

    WSS

  • good fucking luck J

    @mld-woody said:

    good fucking luck J

    Anybody wonder why nobody misses the sparkling political commentary of the wood man? Me neither.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    good fucking luck J

    more nothing from a nothingpecker.

    @calfoxwc said:

    more nothing from a nothingpecker.

    @westside-steve said:

    Anybody wonder why nobody misses the sparkling political commentary of the wood man? Me neither.

    WSS

    Lovely examples of exactly what I said a couple of weeks ago. This is why this is not a political discussion board, but a trumpy supporters only board.

    EDIT: BTW the Discovery Institute is a joke when it comes to scientific work. It's a back to the Scopes trial institute.

  • Trumpy supporters only? Come on Tex you post here and you have a bad case of Trumpy Derangement Syndrome..I'm trying to cure you but you are a tough case Counselor...?

  • @calfoxwc said:

    more nothing from a nothingpecker.

    @westside-steve said:

    Anybody wonder why nobody misses the sparkling political commentary of the wood man? Me neither.

    WSS

    Lovely examples of exactly what I said a couple of weeks ago. This is why this is not a political discussion board, but a trumpy supporters only board.

    EDIT: BTW the Discovery Institute is a joke when it comes to scientific work. It's a back to the Scopes trial institute.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Lovely examples of exactly what I said a couple of weeks ago. This is why this is not a political discussion board, but a trumpy supporters only board.

    Somebody hurt your feelings? You're still here right? I was just pointing out the level of intelligent discussion the wood man brought to the table and why it's not really missed.

    Just for the record our old pal die hard just got the boot.

    WSS

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Lovely examples of exactly what I said a couple of weeks ago. This is why this is not a political discussion board, but a trumpy supporters only board.

    Somebody hurt your feelings? You're still here right? I was just pointing out the level of intelligent discussion the wood man brought to the table and why it's not really missed.

    Just for the record our old pal die hard just got the boot.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Somebody hurt your feelings? You're still here right? I was just pointing out the level of intelligent discussion the wood man brought to the table and why it's not really missed.

    Just for the record our old pal die hard just got the boot.

    WSS

    I'm here only to save you all from the liar in chief??‍♂️. Sooner or later you will understand he is the Great Kahn!? LOL! ?

    And ketchup baby tomato. Die Hard was granted a reprieve by Kathy & Zombo. 30 day suspension and then he may return . See Z's post of  last Wed. on the FB board thread near the top, "Reporting posts to me........."

    I'm glad they granted his reprieve because I personally like the guy.? He's equally good at baiting everyone.???? And even though I know what he's doing, I've been had on more than one occasion.??

  • Yes Tex at the present time most of the posters are on the right. That's how it goes. It hasn't always been that way but it is now. People with any position are free to post and B is rational or is assholeish as they care to and get responses in about the same vein.

    And once more I'm not going to start banning guys because they don't agree with your opinion. 

    Guys get the boot for a very small number of infractions.

    WSS

  • What Tex is saying, really, is that the left demands to control the narrative, but they can't here,

    and "it isn't fair"...

    so they left, only to have Tex whine about the majority of posters being on the right....

    because Tiamsies organized a mass walkout.

    LOL

    Living solely on emotions just doesn't work correctly.