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  • Even though I'm happily retired and quite lazy at times just watching football I'm going to check with a few legal and law enforcement sources of mine on this subject.

    Anyone who messes with family, friends or just good people kind of pisses me off and I'd love nothing better than nailing their worthless asses to the wall.  🙂

    Hey and we all get to learn all kinds of new and interesting things in the process. Sounds like fun, eh?  😉

  • Even though I'm happily retired and quite lazy at times just watching football I'm going to check with a few legal and law enforcement sources of mine on this subject.

    Anyone who messes with family, friends or just good people kind of pisses me off and I'd love nothing better than nailing their worthless asses to the wall.  🙂

    Hey and we all get to learn all kinds of new and interesting things in the process. Sounds like fun, eh?  😉

    @mjp28 said:

    Even though I'm happily retired and quite lazy at times just watching football I'm going to check with a few legal and law enforcement sources of mine on this subject.

    Anyone who messes with family, friends or just good people kind of pisses me off and I'd love nothing better than nailing their worthless asses to the wall.  🙂

    Hey and we all get to learn all kinds of new and interesting things in the process. Sounds like fun, eh?  😉

    We can ask our resident Magistrate Gipper if he thinks there's enough evidence Raven Troll was guilty of cyberstalking

  • @mjp28 said:

    Even though I'm happily retired and quite lazy at times just watching football I'm going to check with a few legal and law enforcement sources of mine on this subject.

    Anyone who messes with family, friends or just good people kind of pisses me off and I'd love nothing better than nailing their worthless asses to the wall.  🙂

    Hey and we all get to learn all kinds of new and interesting things in the process. Sounds like fun, eh?  😉

    We can ask our resident Magistrate Gipper if he thinks there's enough evidence Raven Troll was guilty of cyberstalking

    @hoorta said:

    We can ask our resident Magistrate Gipper if he thinks there's enough evidence Raven Troll was guilty of cyberstalking

    In all my years, that is actually something I have never come across to have to handle, on either side of the bench.

    The BIG  initial step that even has to be asked is:   where does the jurisdiction lie?   Here in Cleveland Ohio where this forum is based? I assume it is based here because the owner...Kathy lives and operates it out of here...right?   Or is Z the actual "operator"...and is the jurisdiction in FLA?

    Or is the jurisdiction in, say, Maryland...if that is where the arsebag resides?  He could claim that neither OH or FLA have jurisdiction over him.  

    Or....is this a Federal matter because these transactions take place over state...and even international lines? 

    While I bring up these questions, I do not come with answers....because it would actually take quite a bit of research into the laws of "cyberspace"  (which I have not done in the past)  to even start to come up with some answers. 

  • It is not all crystal clear yet many of the crimes can indeed be federal.  (just some general information)

    .....Therefore, a defendant could be charged at the state level, the federal level, or both in some cases for a cyber-crime. Often, the decision of where to prosecute a defendant boils down to which agency conducted the investigation and/or which agency has the best chance of obtaining a conviction.
    If you have been charged with a cyber-crime by either the U.S. Department of Justice or by the State you are in you could be facing serious penalties if convicted......

    A long time back I referred someone to the FBI on some cyber matters, their email address:. https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/cyber

    They are primarily concerned with organized crime but are broadening out now in cyber crimes.  The Feds don't play around if they do go after anyone.

  • Oh and I wonder if any of our little brat friends are lurking around out there reading any of this?  If they have even one brain cell left they better be careful because the FEDS have some great toys to play with and unlimited budgets -so- if they get turned loose on your case...... you're screwed !

    I know what they can do in tax evasion cases, terrorism or cyber-bullying cases they go for the kill.  😉

  • That said I don’t think that the feds would even give me some moments thought 

  • That said I don’t think that the feds would even give me some moments thought 

    @the-gipper said:

    That said I don’t think that the feds would even give me some moments thought 

    I have talked with a good friend who has a relative, PhD type who is high up with the high government clearances in the (DHS) Department of Homeland Securities.

    They (DHS) have two offices in Cleveland and one in Pittsburgh and a scary budget into the many, many billions.

    You generally DO NOT report anything to them or the FBI for that matter because they will do some form of follow up.  If you know someone there with high enough clearances they can initiate a preliminary check or investigation and can take it from there.

    If you have an issue yes you can call one of the offices either online or try calling and see where it takes you without pulling any strings.  Again, these people don't play around.

  • @the-gipper said:

    That said I don’t think that the feds would even give me some moments thought 

    I have talked with a good friend who has a relative, PhD type who is high up with the high government clearances in the (DHS) Department of Homeland Securities.

    They (DHS) have two offices in Cleveland and one in Pittsburgh and a scary budget into the many, many billions.

    You generally DO NOT report anything to them or the FBI for that matter because they will do some form of follow up.  If you know someone there with high enough clearances they can initiate a preliminary check or investigation and can take it from there.

    If you have an issue yes you can call one of the offices either online or try calling and see where it takes you without pulling any strings.  Again, these people don't play around.

    @mjp28 said:

    I have talked with a good friend who has a relative, PhD type who is high up with the high government clearances in the (DHS) Department of Homeland Securities.

    They (DHS) have two offices in Cleveland and one in Pittsburgh and a scary budget into the many, many billions.

    You generally DO NOT report anything to them or the FBI for that matter because they will do some form of follow up.  If you know someone there with high enough clearances they can initiate a preliminary check or investigation and can take it from there.

    If you have an issue yes you can call one of the offices either online or try calling and see where it takes you without pulling any strings.  Again, these people don't play around.

    I would say, yes, they don't play around when they see something serious enough to  get involved with.  I am not sure, however, that this would fit their criteria for "serious enough" .  I don't think so.  But, you never know. 

  • @mjp28 said:

    I have talked with a good friend who has a relative, PhD type who is high up with the high government clearances in the (DHS) Department of Homeland Securities.

    They (DHS) have two offices in Cleveland and one in Pittsburgh and a scary budget into the many, many billions.

    You generally DO NOT report anything to them or the FBI for that matter because they will do some form of follow up.  If you know someone there with high enough clearances they can initiate a preliminary check or investigation and can take it from there.

    If you have an issue yes you can call one of the offices either online or try calling and see where it takes you without pulling any strings.  Again, these people don't play around.

    I would say, yes, they don't play around when they see something serious enough to  get involved with.  I am not sure, however, that this would fit their criteria for "serious enough" .  I don't think so.  But, you never know. 

    @the-gipper said:

    I would say, yes, they don't play around when they see something serious enough to  get involved with.  I am not sure, however, that this would fit their criteria for "serious enough" .  I don't think so.  But, you never know. 

    That's why it is nice to know someone who can just initiate a check or inquiry for you or you just have to go online or call the offices and see what they say.

    I don't think they refuse any call but you don't necessarily want them checking you out..... which might happen.  Like you said "you never know".

    If there's more crap going on around here I will make the call myself after checking it out with the mods here first.  

    You always have to access the situation first before getting ready to pull the trigger -but- when you do things might happen very quickly. Also I should be out of the hospital next Wednesday for a long rest at home! I will have more time on my hands. 😉

  • @the-gipper said:

    I would say, yes, they don't play around when they see something serious enough to  get involved with.  I am not sure, however, that this would fit their criteria for "serious enough" .  I don't think so.  But, you never know. 

    That's why it is nice to know someone who can just initiate a check or inquiry for you or you just have to go online or call the offices and see what they say.

    I don't think they refuse any call but you don't necessarily want them checking you out..... which might happen.  Like you said "you never know".

    If there's more crap going on around here I will make the call myself after checking it out with the mods here first.  

    You always have to access the situation first before getting ready to pull the trigger -but- when you do things might happen very quickly. Also I should be out of the hospital next Wednesday for a long rest at home! I will have more time on my hands. 😉

    @mjp28 said:

    That's why it is nice to know someone who can just initiate a check or inquiry for you or you just have to go online or call the offices and see what they say.

    I don't think they refuse any call but you don't necessarily want them checking you out..... which might happen.  Like you said "you never know".

    If there's more crap going on around here I will make the call myself after checking it out with the mods here first.  

    You always have to access the situation first before getting ready to pull the trigger -but- when you do things might happen very quickly. Also I should be out of the hospital next Wednesday for a long rest at home! I will have more time on my hands. 😉

    Well....yes, check it out with the Mod Squad.  My instinct with a troll like that is to attempt to shove  rebar up his anal orifice....but, OK, I know, that is just "feeding the troll".  

    If they give you the go, then you're our Huckleberry.

  • @mjp28 said:

    That's why it is nice to know someone who can just initiate a check or inquiry for you or you just have to go online or call the offices and see what they say.

    I don't think they refuse any call but you don't necessarily want them checking you out..... which might happen.  Like you said "you never know".

    If there's more crap going on around here I will make the call myself after checking it out with the mods here first.  

    You always have to access the situation first before getting ready to pull the trigger -but- when you do things might happen very quickly. Also I should be out of the hospital next Wednesday for a long rest at home! I will have more time on my hands. 😉

    Well....yes, check it out with the Mod Squad.  My instinct with a troll like that is to attempt to shove  rebar up his anal orifice....but, OK, I know, that is just "feeding the troll".  

    If they give you the go, then you're our Huckleberry.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....yes, check it out with the Mod Squad.  My instinct with a troll like that is to attempt to shove  rebar up his anal orifice....but, OK, I know, that is just "feeding the troll".  

    If they give you the go, then you're our Huckleberry.

    I don't know Gip, that sounds more like you're feeling the troll to me.??

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well....yes, check it out with the Mod Squad.  My instinct with a troll like that is to attempt to shove  rebar up his anal orifice....but, OK, I know, that is just "feeding the troll".  

    If they give you the go, then you're our Huckleberry.

    I don't know Gip, that sounds more like you're feeling the troll to me.??

    @texasag1969 said:

    I don't know Gip, that sounds more like you're feeling the troll to me.??

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