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  • W Westside Steve

    If possible let's not start screaming at each other right off the bat.

    Can we all agree that the fact that Hunter Biden who is making millions in the Ukraine most likely because his father was a powerful politician?

    Can we all agree that in itself that doesn't add up to any illegality?

    Can we also agree that there's at least the appearance of impropriety?

    If these things are true why is there a problem with asking for an investigation? In watching the hearings they kept pounding on the question of who benefits from an investigation. If the investigation comes up empty it would seem that Senator Biden would benefit right?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    If possible let's not start screaming at each other right off the bat.

    Can we all agree that the fact that Hunter Biden who is making millions in the Ukraine most likely because his father was a powerful politician?

    Can we all agree that in itself that doesn't add up to any illegality?

    Can we also agree that there's at least the appearance of impropriety?

    If these things are true why is there a problem with asking for an investigation? In watching the hearings they kept pounding on the question of who benefits from an investigation. If the investigation comes up empty it would seem that Senator Biden would benefit right?

    WSS

    There is some evidence that Biden's son who was hired as a board member of Burisma and got a huge amount of money for nothing except being the vice president's son did pay dividends when the prosecutor looking into corruption at Burisma was fired after Ukraine was given the ultimatum by Joe Biden to fire the prosecutor in 6 hours or Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in aid from the United States.....can there be any doubt that Biden's son was hired on the Burisma board only because they were buying influence? 

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  • Of course we can agree on that.

    this has been going for quite some time, both red and blue.

    Drain the Swamp is a real thing that applies to both parties.

    Trump has seen this going on for years, people have been very sloppy thinking it would never be challenged.

    #MAGA

    guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    @westside-steve said:

    If possible let's not start screaming at each other right off the bat.

    Can we all agree that the fact that Hunter Biden who is making millions in the Ukraine most likely because his father was a powerful politician?

    Can we all agree that in itself that doesn't add up to any illegality?

    Can we also agree that there's at least the appearance of impropriety?

    If these things are true why is there a problem with asking for an investigation? In watching the hearings they kept pounding on the question of who benefits from an investigation. If the investigation comes up empty it would seem that Senator Biden would benefit right?

    WSS

    There is some evidence that Biden's son who was hired as a board member of Burisma and got a huge amount of money for nothing except being the vice president's son did pay dividends when the prosecutor looking into corruption at Burisma was fired after Ukraine was given the ultimatum by Joe Biden to fire the prosecutor in 6 hours or Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in aid from the United States.....can there be any doubt that Biden's son was hired on the Burisma board only because they were buying influence? 

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    There is some evidence that Biden's son who was hired as a board member of Burisma and got a huge amount of money for nothing except being the vice president's son did pay dividends when the prosecutor looking into corruption at Burisma was fired after Ukraine was given the ultimatum by Joe Biden to fire the prosecutor in 6 hours or Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in aid from the United States.....can there be any doubt that Biden's son was hired on the Burisma board only because they were buying influence? 

    So, quid pro quo, in other words.

    How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? 

    "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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  • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    There is some evidence that Biden's son who was hired as a board member of Burisma and got a huge amount of money for nothing except being the vice president's son did pay dividends when the prosecutor looking into corruption at Burisma was fired after Ukraine was given the ultimatum by Joe Biden to fire the prosecutor in 6 hours or Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in aid from the United States.....can there be any doubt that Biden's son was hired on the Burisma board only because they were buying influence? 

    So, quid pro quo, in other words.

    How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? 

    @jbluhm86 said:

    So, quid pro quo, in other words.

    How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? 

    There is more to it than just Hunter Biden. As everyone has testified Ukraine is ripe with corruption and holding up aid until it is confirmed the new president of Ukraine is actually tackling corruption is not only a valid excuse but mandated by law. Because Biden's son is also a possible part of the corruption should that be off limits to investigate because Joe Biden is running for president?

    There has not even been established by the sham impeachment hearing there was a quid pro quo as Sonderland's presumption are worthless in a real court and only has sway in the impeachment hearing because that is political theater. In fact in direct evidence Trump tells Sonderland there is no quid pro quo.

  • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    There is some evidence that Biden's son who was hired as a board member of Burisma and got a huge amount of money for nothing except being the vice president's son did pay dividends when the prosecutor looking into corruption at Burisma was fired after Ukraine was given the ultimatum by Joe Biden to fire the prosecutor in 6 hours or Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in aid from the United States.....can there be any doubt that Biden's son was hired on the Burisma board only because they were buying influence? 

    So, quid pro quo, in other words.

    How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? 

    @jbluhm86 said:

    So, quid pro quo, in other words.

    How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? 

    Didn't take long for this one to jump the track.

    If in fact there's nothing wrong with Hunter Biden job then how could the investigation possibly help the Trump campaign? And why would the vice president wanted to shut down?

    WSS

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  • You expected otherwise?

    😂
  • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    There is some evidence that Biden's son who was hired as a board member of Burisma and got a huge amount of money for nothing except being the vice president's son did pay dividends when the prosecutor looking into corruption at Burisma was fired after Ukraine was given the ultimatum by Joe Biden to fire the prosecutor in 6 hours or Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in aid from the United States.....can there be any doubt that Biden's son was hired on the Burisma board only because they were buying influence? 

    So, quid pro quo, in other words.

    How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? 

    @jbluhm86 said:

    So, quid pro quo, in other words.

    How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? 

    except the military defensive weapons were temporarily held up because Pres Trump wanted to be sure the

    corrupt folks were gone. They were, the military weapons were released. That's all.

       The Ukraine never knew the weapons were held up. Said weapons, btw, obamao and co. refused to send to the Ukraine anyway, because obaMao didn't want to annoy Putin.

       The timeline clearly shows that investigation of the bidens had nothing to do with it. But, secret spies in the Pres Trump wh decided it did...

        they were against Pres Trump anyways. Dirty Eric Ciaramella, vindman..... (who btw, was reprimanded at one point for joking around with the russians in a program, and running down America and the American people to them...and... was discovered to be the leaker in the WH and got fired...)

       I've listened to these bureaucrats and the anti-Trumpers/resistance are hell bent on owning America, and running the show globalist wise.

        As to the actual question - quid pro Joe Biden gets happy his son gets rich on the board in the Ukraine...and protects his son by openly demanding the prosector be fired or Joe Biden doesn't let any money get to the Ukraine.

       Of course, there is some serious wrong there:

    graft

    noun blackmail, bribery, corruption, fraudulent income, hush money, illegal profit, illicit profit, illicit revenue, inserere, kickback, money illegally accuired, political corruption, profiteering, property illegally acquired, unjust acquisition, unlawful gain
    Associated concepts: bribery, corruption, official misconduct

  • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    There is some evidence that Biden's son who was hired as a board member of Burisma and got a huge amount of money for nothing except being the vice president's son did pay dividends when the prosecutor looking into corruption at Burisma was fired after Ukraine was given the ultimatum by Joe Biden to fire the prosecutor in 6 hours or Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in aid from the United States.....can there be any doubt that Biden's son was hired on the Burisma board only because they were buying influence? 

    So, quid pro quo, in other words.

    How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? 

    @jbluhm86 said:

    So, quid pro quo, in other words.

    How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? 

    That motive has only been speculated, but not established.  To answer you question though, it wouldn't be.

    “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”

  • Under Obama no aid went to Ukraine to appease Putin, now these dem cocksuckers are accusing Trump of holding up aid to poor poor Ukraine.

    What Trump did made perfect sense. Trump vowed not to open Americas pockets to countries that do not support US policies or that are corrupt, and that includes Ukraine...which was infested with corruption. Ukraine undermined the Trump campaign,  conspired with the Democrats and the Obama DOJ to help concoct this scheme that Trump’s colluding with Russia.

    Trump knew what Ukraine had done and wanted assurance from Zelinsky that Ukraine was cleaning house. He had every right to do so.

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  • W Westside Steve

    If possible let's not start screaming at each other right off the bat.

    Can we all agree that the fact that Hunter Biden who is making millions in the Ukraine most likely because his father was a powerful politician?

    Can we all agree that in itself that doesn't add up to any illegality?

    Can we also agree that there's at least the appearance of impropriety?

    If these things are true why is there a problem with asking for an investigation? In watching the hearings they kept pounding on the question of who benefits from an investigation. If the investigation comes up empty it would seem that Senator Biden would benefit right?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    If possible let's not start screaming at each other right off the bat.

    Can we all agree that the fact that Hunter Biden who is making millions in the Ukraine most likely because his father was a powerful politician?

    Can we all agree that in itself that doesn't add up to any illegality?

    Can we also agree that there's at least the appearance of impropriety?

    If these things are true why is there a problem with asking for an investigation? In watching the hearings they kept pounding on the question of who benefits from an investigation. If the investigation comes up empty it would seem that Senator Biden would benefit right?

    WSS

    No investigation because biden is a not a Republican, otherwise there would already be one in progress.

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