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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Hopefully a nice clean game we can all kick back and relax to.

    Relax?  While watching a Browns game?   What planet are you from?  🥷

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    CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS
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    @the-gipper said:

    Relax?  While watching a Browns game?   What planet are you from?  🥷

    The one near where the Dolphins reside and they are not very good. We could all use a “chill” game, or 2.. 

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      @the-gipper said:

      Relax?  While watching a Browns game?   What planet are you from?  🥷

      The one near where the Dolphins reside and they are not very good. We could all use a “chill” game, or 2.. 

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

      The one near where the Dolphins reside and they are not very good. We could all use a “chill” game, or 2.. 

      Let’s make it like an Ohio state game like 42 to nothing at the half

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        OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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        This is another Must Win game for us.

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          @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

          The one near where the Dolphins reside and they are not very good. We could all use a “chill” game, or 2.. 

          Let’s make it like an Ohio state game like 42 to nothing at the half

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          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          Let’s make it like an Ohio state game like 42 to nothing at the half

          This offense would struggle to put up 42 points in a half this season even if the Dolphins refused to take the field. 

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            @the-gipper said:

            Let’s make it like an Ohio state game like 42 to nothing at the half

            This offense would struggle to put up 42 points in a half this season even if the Dolphins refused to take the field. 

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            @dutch-oven said:

            This offense would struggle to put up 42 points in a half this season even if the Dolphins refused to take the field. 

            They have indeed struggled.....but I am want to start seeing some breakout from those struggles.

            42-0 at the half.  We will accept no substitutes !!!

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              I'm gonna say 27 points at the half.

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                I'm gonna say 27 points at the half.

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                @poeticg said:

                I'm gonna say 27 points at the half.

                I will take EITHER 27 or 42, gladly.  LOL.

                We all know that we've played some of the staunchest defenses in the league for what seems like 10 games in a row.  I heard some stat that said we basically played the top 5 defenses in the past 5 weeks, but I don't know if it's true or what metric they used to measure defense.  At any rate, I'm VERY interested to see how we play against a team that is essentially at the very BOTTOM in most categories.  They didn't have much talent on defense to begin with, and they are so completely injury depleted and ridden with inexperience that even their program guide is having difficulty keeping up with the roster.  Virtually their entire secondary wouldn't make another team's roster, so if there was ever a game where our offense busted out, THIS is the one.  

                How can the Fins beat us?  Well, for starters their QB is 5-1 against us.  Fitzy will definitely take chances and challenge defenses deep, and we've let a few people get behind us in recent weeks.  The Steelers' WR had the tying TD grab in his hands before the ground popped it out, so I do think we're somewhat vulnerable to accurate down the field passing (every team is, really).  I'm encouraged to see Ward playing well, but Greedy has been somewhat struggling a bit.  Furthermore, the Fins are the least penalized team in the entire league.  That's pretty impressive.  

                I just hope we don't get suckered into trying to pass the ball too much.  Fins are atrocious against the run, and we've got probably the best RB stable in the NFL.  Miami is especially vulnerable against outside running, and that's one of the places we get the most yards from Chubb.  We run that zone-stretch to the left and it's something we do VERY well.  Chubb hasn't busted one in a while, but that could certainly change Sunday.  Also, if you have Kareem Hunt in fantasy, I'd start him.  I could see a scenario where he gets a BUNCH of yardage.  

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                  @poeticg said:

                  I'm gonna say 27 points at the half.

                  I will take EITHER 27 or 42, gladly.  LOL.

                  We all know that we've played some of the staunchest defenses in the league for what seems like 10 games in a row.  I heard some stat that said we basically played the top 5 defenses in the past 5 weeks, but I don't know if it's true or what metric they used to measure defense.  At any rate, I'm VERY interested to see how we play against a team that is essentially at the very BOTTOM in most categories.  They didn't have much talent on defense to begin with, and they are so completely injury depleted and ridden with inexperience that even their program guide is having difficulty keeping up with the roster.  Virtually their entire secondary wouldn't make another team's roster, so if there was ever a game where our offense busted out, THIS is the one.  

                  How can the Fins beat us?  Well, for starters their QB is 5-1 against us.  Fitzy will definitely take chances and challenge defenses deep, and we've let a few people get behind us in recent weeks.  The Steelers' WR had the tying TD grab in his hands before the ground popped it out, so I do think we're somewhat vulnerable to accurate down the field passing (every team is, really).  I'm encouraged to see Ward playing well, but Greedy has been somewhat struggling a bit.  Furthermore, the Fins are the least penalized team in the entire league.  That's pretty impressive.  

                  I just hope we don't get suckered into trying to pass the ball too much.  Fins are atrocious against the run, and we've got probably the best RB stable in the NFL.  Miami is especially vulnerable against outside running, and that's one of the places we get the most yards from Chubb.  We run that zone-stretch to the left and it's something we do VERY well.  Chubb hasn't busted one in a while, but that could certainly change Sunday.  Also, if you have Kareem Hunt in fantasy, I'd start him.  I could see a scenario where he gets a BUNCH of yardage.  

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                  @jiggins7919 said:

                   Also, if you have Kareem Hunt in fantasy, I'd start him.  I could see a scenario where he gets a BUNCH of yardage.  

                  I have him and it's time for Freddie to understand the threat he has inside the 5 with fresh legs. No more f'ning around in there. Give him the damn ball and he scores.

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                    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                    Does anybody remember the last time this board was talking about us winning the upcoming game by a boatload?     With 3 defensive line starters out, I just hope to win the game.

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                      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                      the 10.5 point spread is about dead on imo..The Fins go on 4th down more than any team in the league..and were short handed on defense & they know it..

                      FitzMagic is 5-1 against Browns..we got to move the chains & own the game clock in this one

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                        Does anybody remember the last time this board was talking about us winning the upcoming game by a boatload?     With 3 defensive line starters out, I just hope to win the game.

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @orion said:

                        Does anybody remember the last time this board was talking about us winning the upcoming game by a boatload?     With 3 defensive line starters out, I just hope to win the game.

                        Yea, I think we talked about that vs. the Broncos, and that did not turn out so well.

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                          Since week 3, Fitzpatrick has been the 8th rated passer in the league (per PFF).  That's pretty crazy when compared to Mayfield who is ranked 23rd.  Suffice to say, this game makes me extremely nervous.  Miami had leads against some decent teams, some of the leads extended into the 4th quarter and they blew it, and some of the games they managed to hang on to win.  Miami isn't some team that is simply laying down like many thought early on in the season.  This is the NFL, and if you don't bring it, you WILL lose.  That being said, I DO believe we're going to win.  I think we'll have a single digit lead into the 4th quarter, and then Ward or Greedy will seal the deal with a big play when Miami is trying to come back.  Their run defense is bad, it's a home game for us, and I really do believe that we're starting to play a little bit better overall.  

                          Let's give the home crowd another win, and let's make it 3 in a row.  If we somehow manage that, we'll then play a Pittsburgh team we KNOW we can beat.  Sure, we won't have Myles Garrett who almost single-handily won the game with his crazy pressures, but I still believe we're the better team.  Not to get ahead of myself because we certainly haven't earned the right to ASSUME victories, but let's face it...we should win the next two games and we should quietly put together no less than a 4 game winning streak.  Heck, we get the Bengals AFTER the Steelers game, so maybe even FIVE games in a row.  

                          I'm not known as Captain Optimism, but I can legit see us making it happen.  Not only THAT, but a 5 game winning streak would probably stymie the "we need a new coach" talk, AND would get us to over .500 in December for the first time in a zillion years.  Cmon Brownies...make a push!

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                          @jiggins7919 said:

                          Since week 3, Fitzpatrick has been the 8th rated passer in the league (per PFF).  That's pretty crazy when compared to Mayfield who is ranked 23rd.  Suffice to say, this game makes me extremely nervous.  Miami had leads against some decent teams, some of the leads extended into the 4th quarter and they blew it, and some of the games they managed to hang on to win.  Miami isn't some team that is simply laying down like many thought early on in the season.  This is the NFL, and if you don't bring it, you WILL lose.  That being said, I DO believe we're going to win.  I think we'll have a single digit lead into the 4th quarter, and then Ward or Greedy will seal the deal with a big play when Miami is trying to come back.  Their run defense is bad, it's a home game for us, and I really do believe that we're starting to play a little bit better overall.  

                          Let's give the home crowd another win, and let's make it 3 in a row.  If we somehow manage that, we'll then play a Pittsburgh team we KNOW we can beat.  Sure, we won't have Myles Garrett who almost single-handily won the game with his crazy pressures, but I still believe we're the better team.  Not to get ahead of myself because we certainly haven't earned the right to ASSUME victories, but let's face it...we should win the next two games and we should quietly put together no less than a 4 game winning streak.  Heck, we get the Bengals AFTER the Steelers game, so maybe even FIVE games in a row.  

                          I'm not known as Captain Optimism, but I can legit see us making it happen.  Not only THAT, but a 5 game winning streak would probably stymie the "we need a new coach" talk, AND would get us to over .500 in December for the first time in a zillion years.  Cmon Brownies...make a push!

                          Ever since we blew a playoff victory in Miami in 1972 vs the undefeated Dolphins, EVERY dam Browns game makes me nervous?

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                            @jiggins7919 said:

                            Since week 3, Fitzpatrick has been the 8th rated passer in the league (per PFF).  That's pretty crazy when compared to Mayfield who is ranked 23rd.  Suffice to say, this game makes me extremely nervous.  Miami had leads against some decent teams, some of the leads extended into the 4th quarter and they blew it, and some of the games they managed to hang on to win.  Miami isn't some team that is simply laying down like many thought early on in the season.  This is the NFL, and if you don't bring it, you WILL lose.  That being said, I DO believe we're going to win.  I think we'll have a single digit lead into the 4th quarter, and then Ward or Greedy will seal the deal with a big play when Miami is trying to come back.  Their run defense is bad, it's a home game for us, and I really do believe that we're starting to play a little bit better overall.  

                            Let's give the home crowd another win, and let's make it 3 in a row.  If we somehow manage that, we'll then play a Pittsburgh team we KNOW we can beat.  Sure, we won't have Myles Garrett who almost single-handily won the game with his crazy pressures, but I still believe we're the better team.  Not to get ahead of myself because we certainly haven't earned the right to ASSUME victories, but let's face it...we should win the next two games and we should quietly put together no less than a 4 game winning streak.  Heck, we get the Bengals AFTER the Steelers game, so maybe even FIVE games in a row.  

                            I'm not known as Captain Optimism, but I can legit see us making it happen.  Not only THAT, but a 5 game winning streak would probably stymie the "we need a new coach" talk, AND would get us to over .500 in December for the first time in a zillion years.  Cmon Brownies...make a push!

                            Ever since we blew a playoff victory in Miami in 1972 vs the undefeated Dolphins, EVERY dam Browns game makes me nervous?

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                            @bob806 said:

                            Ever since we blew a playoff victory in Miami in 1972 vs the undefeated Dolphins, EVERY dam Browns game makes me nervous?

                            It was the one we blew in 1985 that is even more egregious......21-3 lead at the half vs. Fins in Miami.

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                              @bob806 said:

                              Ever since we blew a playoff victory in Miami in 1972 vs the undefeated Dolphins, EVERY dam Browns game makes me nervous?

                              It was the one we blew in 1985 that is even more egregious......21-3 lead at the half vs. Fins in Miami.

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              It was the one we blew in 1985 that is even more egregious......21-3 lead at the half vs. Fins in Miami.

                              January 4, 1986 a very young Bernie Kosar almost beat Don Shula and the 10.5 favorite Miami Dolphins, Shula was furious at halftime. Bernie came back to Miami and almost upset the mighty fins.  Those were great BROWNS memories.

                              .....hey they play again this weekend and Cleveland is the 10.5 favorite, how about that !

                              Scoring

                               
                              Quarter Tm Detail CLE MIA
                              1 Dolphins Fuad Reveiz 51 yard field goal 0 3
                                Browns Ozzie Newsome 16 yard pass from Bernie Kosar (Matt Bahr kick) 7 3
                              2 Browns Earnest Byner 21 yard rush (Matt Bahr kick) 14 3
                              3 Browns Earnest Byner 66 yard rush (Matt Bahr kick) 21 3
                                Dolphins Nat Moore 6 yard pass from Dan Marino (Fuad Reveiz kick) 21 10
                                Dolphins Ron Davenport 31 yard rush (Fuad Reveiz kick) 21 17
                              4 Dolphins Ron Davenport 1 yard rush (Fuad Reveiz kick) 21 24

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                              Game Info
                              Roof outdoors
                              Surface grass
                              Weather* 71 degrees, relative humidity 79%, wind 9 mph
                              Vegas Line Miami Dolphins -10.5
                              GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                Maybe the national media should do a story on that Cleveland BROWNS team and a 20 year old young quarterback from Boardman, Ohio and the U and that 1985 team.  Eh?

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                                Player Pos
                                Bernie Kosar QB <--- oh the other QB was Dan Marino 
                                Earnest Byner RB
                                Kevin Mack FB
                                Clarence Weathers WR
                                Brian Brennan WR
                                Ozzie Newsome TE
                                Rickey Bolden LT
                                George Lilja LG
                                Mike Baab C
                                Dan Fike RG
                                Cody Risien RT
                                Reggie Camp LDE
                                Bob Golic NT
                                Carl Hairston RDE
                                Chip Banks LOLB
                                Eddie Johnson LILB
                                Scott Nicolas RILB
                                Clay Matthews ROLB
                                Frank Minnifield LCB
                                Hanford Dixon RCB
                                Al Gross SS
                                Don Rogers FS
                                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                  @bob806 said:

                                  Ever since we blew a playoff victory in Miami in 1972 vs the undefeated Dolphins, EVERY dam Browns game makes me nervous?

                                  It was the one we blew in 1985 that is even more egregious......21-3 lead at the half vs. Fins in Miami.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  It was the one we blew in 1985 that is even more egregious......21-3 lead at the half vs. Fins in Miami.

                                  Agree, but I wasn't talking about ranking the sadness. I was talking about nerves.

                                   We weren't the better team in either of those playoff meetings, but should have won both. 

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    It was the one we blew in 1985 that is even more egregious......21-3 lead at the half vs. Fins in Miami.

                                    Agree, but I wasn't talking about ranking the sadness. I was talking about nerves.

                                     We weren't the better team in either of those playoff meetings, but should have won both. 

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                                    @bob806 said:

                                    Agree, but I wasn't talking about ranking the sadness. I was talking about nerves.

                                     We weren't the better team in either of those playoff meetings, but should have won both. 

                                    The January 4, 1986 game was a great game for that underdog Cleveland BROWNS team and a great national coming out party for Bernie Kosar.

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                                      Agree, but I wasn't talking about ranking the sadness. I was talking about nerves.

                                       We weren't the better team in either of those playoff meetings, but should have won both. 

                                      The January 4, 1986 game was a great game for that underdog Cleveland BROWNS team and a great national coming out party for Bernie Kosar.

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                                      @mjp28 said:

                                      The January 4, 1986 game was a great game for that underdog Cleveland BROWNS team and a great national coming out party for Bernie Kosar.

                                      Yep. If I remember correctly,Browns safety Donnie Rogers intercepted Marino and was going all the way for a TD, and got tangled up on his own feet around midfield. Probably would have clinched the game.

                                      Nothing could be finer than to give to Mack & Byner. 1985 was the beginning of a great run, that always came up short vs Horse Teeth.

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                                        Schobert listed as questionable now with a random groin injury? Holy shit, if he can't play I don't want to THINK about our defense. Cmon Joe, we need you! 

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                                          Schobert listed as questionable now with a random groin injury? Holy shit, if he can't play I don't want to THINK about our defense. Cmon Joe, we need you! 

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                                          @jiggins7919 said:

                                          Schobert listed as questionable now with a random groin injury? Holy shit, if he can't play I don't want to THINK about our defense. Cmon Joe, we need you! 

                                          well...crap. Looks like the Browns could be in a bit of trouble without Schobert in there.

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