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  • @the-gipper said:

    So? You have switched from Mr. Milktoast to either Mr. Negative or to Mr. Wishy Washy?  

    I get that it is a longshot.....but it is by no means impossible.  

    Tonight's game can be a start.   While either losing helps,  the Colts losing, I think, helps more....with the whole  comparative conference record thing. The Browns will be only a game behind the loser. (If they win on Sunday...of course we can never assume).  They would have an edge on the Colts in Conf. record (they do now):  5-3 to 5-5.

    They are right now even with the Jags in the W/L column...but ahead in the  Conf. record.  (current 4-3 vs. 4-4).   

    We can really only look to leapfrogging one of these competitors at a time, it seems.   We actually are ahead on leaps over the Jags. I think the Colts losing tonight makes a leap over them a lot shorter.  

    Titans, who we definitely cannot be tied with, play the Jags.  Guess we gotta root for the Jags.  Raiders play Jets..then Titans.   Yes, it will take a lot because a lot of the teams we need to beat, play each other,   so while we gain something on the one hand, we lose on the other. 

    Gip the team that could  help the  Browns  out the most  is the Jets. They still have to play the  Raiders, Steelers,  Ravens, and Bills.  Sorry  if I  think  they're not  good enough to  beat any of them.  🙁

    @hoorta said:

    Gip the team that could  help the  Browns  out the most  is the Jets. They still have to play the  Raiders, Steelers,  Ravens, and Bills.  Sorry  if I  think  they're not  good enough to  beat any of them.  🙁

    Right....see the new Z thread.   We both conceded that they need to pull of a couple of upsets....particularly the Raiders.   But, even if they are no help....the NFCS  has to come through for us.

  • Colts win tonight.   That helps the Browns cause....a bit.   One chip in the ante for us.

    Texans win makes them  7-4 and in control in AFCS.    Their conference record is 6-2

    Colts are now  6-5.   Conference record is  5-5

    And to remind you:    Browns are 4-6, but 4-3 in conference. 

    Also, technically, for now, Colts loss takes them out of playoff position....and puts the Raiders in at  6-4, currently.

  • And here is the rest of their schedule with the records of their opponents:

    Dolphins  2-8

    Steelers 5-5

    Bengals 0-10

    Cards  3-7-1

    Ravens 8-2

    Bengals  0-10

    The teams with the best records....Ravens/Steelers, the Browns have already proven they can beat those teams. 

    3 games are at home and 3 are on the road.  

    Can we assume your pessimism is based on the fact that Garrett likely will be out?  Understandable, but then you disparage the talent and character of the rest of that defense....which, admittedly has to prove that they can come through without their likely best player.  But it seems that you are assuming that they just can't do that.   We shall see.

    @the-gipper said:

    And here is the rest of their schedule with the records of their opponents:

    Dolphins  2-8

    Steelers 5-5

    Bengals 0-10

    Cards  3-7-1

    Ravens 8-2

    Bengals  0-10

    The teams with the best records....Ravens/Steelers, the Browns have already proven they can beat those teams. 

    3 games are at home and 3 are on the road.  

    Can we assume your pessimism is based on the fact that Garrett likely will be out?  Understandable, but then you disparage the talent and character of the rest of that defense....which, admittedly has to prove that they can come through without their likely best player.  But it seems that you are assuming that they just can't do that.   We shall see.

    I see 2 more loses, at least. 

  • Colts win tonight.   That helps the Browns cause....a bit.   One chip in the ante for us.

    Texans win makes them  7-4 and in control in AFCS.    Their conference record is 6-2

    Colts are now  6-5.   Conference record is  5-5

    And to remind you:    Browns are 4-6, but 4-3 in conference. 

    Also, technically, for now, Colts loss takes them out of playoff position....and puts the Raiders in at  6-4, currently.

    @the-gipper said:

    Colts win tonight.   That helps the Browns cause....a bit.   One chip in the ante for us.

    Texans win makes them  7-4 and in control in AFCS.    Their conference record is 6-2

    Colts are now  6-5.   Conference record is  5-5

    And to remind you:    Browns are 4-6, but 4-3 in conference. 

    Also, technically, for now, Colts loss takes them out of playoff position....and puts the Raiders in at  6-4, currently.

    And one more loss...

  • @the-gipper said:

    Colts win tonight.   That helps the Browns cause....a bit.   One chip in the ante for us.

    Texans win makes them  7-4 and in control in AFCS.    Their conference record is 6-2

    Colts are now  6-5.   Conference record is  5-5

    And to remind you:    Browns are 4-6, but 4-3 in conference. 

    Also, technically, for now, Colts loss takes them out of playoff position....and puts the Raiders in at  6-4, currently.

    And one more loss...

    @icecube said:

    And one more loss probably dooms postseason hopes. The whooping by TN is the game that caused the most damage. Freddie didn't have the team prepared. 

    You have not been paying one bit of attention, have you.

  • @icecube said:

    And one more loss probably dooms postseason hopes. The whooping by TN is the game that caused the most damage. Freddie didn't have the team prepared. 

    You have not been paying one bit of attention, have you.

    @the-gipper said:

    You have not been paying one bit of attention, have you.

    I fixed it. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    You have not been paying one bit of attention, have you.

    I fixed it. 

    @icecube said:

    I fixed it. 

    I am just saying how even with another loss, we still have a  fair shot at the playoffs.  not optimal, but fair. 

    Hell, if the Browns did not suffer another loss at all in the season, I would almost be willing to guarantee that they would make the playoffs.  

    You, I think say that you see two more losses.  OK, if that happens we are probably cooked.  

  • Supposedly, this link...the NFL Playoff Machine,  gives some kind of scenarios about how each team could make the playoffs (or not).

    I have not taken the time to play with it, plus I am not sure I can figure it out.   If any of you want to take a shot at it, see what you can come up with:

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

  • @icecube said:

    I fixed it. 

    I am just saying how even with another loss, we still have a  fair shot at the playoffs.  not optimal, but fair. 

    Hell, if the Browns did not suffer another loss at all in the season, I would almost be willing to guarantee that they would make the playoffs.  

    You, I think say that you see two more losses.  OK, if that happens we are probably cooked.  

    @the-gipper said:

    I am just saying how even with another loss, we still have a  fair shot at the playoffs.  not optimal, but fair. 

    Truth.

    Hell, if the Browns did not suffer another loss at all in the season, I would almost be willing to guarantee that they would make the playoffs.  

    More likely than not. 

    You, I think say that you see two more losses.  OK, if that happens we are probably cooked.

      But with that schedule. I may be wrong. The only real team is Balt. Pitt is a practice squad team, including at QB. Browns win that on a bad day. And Bengals x2, AZ, Fins. Doable. 

  • Looks to me the Browns get a first round BYE... There was another scenario that had Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh in the Wildcard too... 

  • Looks to me the Browns get a first round BYE... There was another scenario that had Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh in the Wildcard too... 

    @poeticg said:

    Looks to me the Browns get a first round BYE... There was another scenario that had Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh in the Wildcard too... 

    Only playoff Bye we can get comes with a Buh in front of it.

    We gotta win out.

    Ravens are real and will not be coming back to the pack... but we still match up well with them. We jumped in front of them Week 4 and put pressure on their Offense. And while they've added Peters to their 2ndary (and we've lost MG) our Offense is finally gelling.

    We can beat them again. Won't be easy, but we can beat them again.

  • @poeticg said:

    Looks to me the Browns get a first round BYE... There was another scenario that had Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh in the Wildcard too... 

    Only playoff Bye we can get comes with a Buh in front of it.

    We gotta win out.

    Ravens are real and will not be coming back to the pack... but we still match up well with them. We jumped in front of them Week 4 and put pressure on their Offense. And while they've added Peters to their 2ndary (and we've lost MG) our Offense is finally gelling.

    We can beat them again. Won't be easy, but we can beat them again.

    @tour2ma said:

    Only playoff Bye we can get comes with a Buh in front of it.

    We gotta win out.

    Ravens are real and will not be coming back to the pack... but we still match up well with them. We jumped in front of them Week 4 and put pressure on their Offense. And while they've added Peters to their 2ndary (and we've lost MG) our Offense is finally gelling.

    We can beat them again. Won't be easy, but we can beat them again.

    And correct me if I am wrong, that game is one of our remaining home games.  Browns have taken care of home field 3 weeks now.