CB problems
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Hospital Ward hasn't even been close to being good. When are those idiots going to start looking for the ball?
The object of the position is to break up passes, not tackle the guy after he catches the ball.
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Not sure l would call it weak play, but rather inconsistent play. The CBs have looked good at times.
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Inexperience. We could’ve used Haden, especially to mentor Ward.
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Not sure l would call it weak play, but rather inconsistent play. The CBs have looked good at times.
Not sure l would call it weak play, but rather inconsistent play. The CBs have looked good at times.
Inconsistent is the best way to put it. Ward has looked incredible at times, but his play on the deep ball is concerning. He's way ahead of Greedy on that front, but Ward panics EVERY time and grabs the WR's arm. He's gotten away with it a few times, but he's also been called for penalties. The other problem with Ward are the lack of big plays. It's VERY difficult to knock someone for this, but star players make star caliber plays. When was the past time he got a pick? A pick-6? A forced fumble? Greedy has definitely flashed, but it's pretty obvious that he's green. Our defense basically suffers from a perpetual lack of big plays. Terrence Mitchell gets the one interception, and our offense shits the bed. It's so typical. I think that was the drive where Baker threw deep to Landry but he couldn't hold on to it. Was it catchable? Sure looked like it.
Anyway, there's some reason for hope in the future, but right now it's all about the young bucks taking their lumps and learning. I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Dalton torched our secondary Sunday because we'll have no pass rush.
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Greedy was an on field spectator all game and then did us all a favor by taking himself out.
Carrie had his worst game as a Brown.
Ward made a few nice plays last season playing in zone he’s given up a few plays in man this year. He’s one of the guys on our team that seems to have a good football IQ. He’s not a tackler not a sturdy guy either. He won’t get paid like a top 5 corner or at least he shouldn’t.
Redwine isn’t ready yet maybe never will be seems to have athleticism but probably not the ball skills needed at this next level. He made one play. We saw maybe 4 total defensively last weekWE need to make Safety a very high priority this offseason.
Randall didn’t earn his next check here he’s been average all year and hurt too. If you are dishing out checks next year you keep Hunt and Show and let Randall walk.
overall you see a secondary with speed some skill But in a scheme that’s still up to debate if it’s useful here AND we now have no pass rush. It’s going to make a pretty average secondary all season perform below average and even poorly.
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Not sure l would call it weak play, but rather inconsistent play. The CBs have looked good at times.
Inconsistent is the best way to put it. Ward has looked incredible at times, but his play on the deep ball is concerning. He's way ahead of Greedy on that front, but Ward panics EVERY time and grabs the WR's arm. He's gotten away with it a few times, but he's also been called for penalties. The other problem with Ward are the lack of big plays. It's VERY difficult to knock someone for this, but star players make star caliber plays. When was the past time he got a pick? A pick-6? A forced fumble? Greedy has definitely flashed, but it's pretty obvious that he's green. Our defense basically suffers from a perpetual lack of big plays. Terrence Mitchell gets the one interception, and our offense shits the bed. It's so typical. I think that was the drive where Baker threw deep to Landry but he couldn't hold on to it. Was it catchable? Sure looked like it.
Anyway, there's some reason for hope in the future, but right now it's all about the young bucks taking their lumps and learning. I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Dalton torched our secondary Sunday because we'll have no pass rush.
Inconsistent is the best way to put it. Ward has looked incredible at times, but his play on the deep ball is concerning. He's way ahead of Greedy on that front, but Ward panics EVERY time and grabs the WR's arm. He's gotten away with it a few times, but he's also been called for penalties. The other problem with Ward are the lack of big plays. It's VERY difficult to knock someone for this, but star players make star caliber plays. When was the past time he got a pick? A pick-6? A forced fumble? Greedy has definitely flashed, but it's pretty obvious that he's green. Our defense basically suffers from a perpetual lack of big plays. Terrence Mitchell gets the one interception, and our offense shits the bed. It's so typical. I think that was the drive where Baker threw deep to Landry but he couldn't hold on to it. Was it catchable? Sure looked like it.
Anyway, there's some reason for hope in the future, but right now it's all about the young bucks taking their lumps and learning. I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Dalton torched our secondary Sunday because we'll have no pass rush.
I’m a devote OSU fan probably have a few on here as well.
Ward had better technique at OSU. Played the ball nicely avoided contact and stuck like glue to elite competition.
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Inexperience. We could’ve used Haden, especially to mentor Ward.
Inexperience. We could’ve used Haden, especially to mentor Ward.
Joe Haden didn’t play well here towards the end and never hung onto any INTs.
Randall should be that guy as should Carrie both guys were guys we acquired that had experience.
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Inexperience. We could’ve used Haden, especially to mentor Ward.
Joe Haden didn’t play well here towards the end and never hung onto any INTs.
Randall should be that guy as should Carrie both guys were guys we acquired that had experience.
Joe Haden didn’t play well here towards the end and never hung onto any INTs.
Randall should be that guy as should Carrie both guys were guys we acquired that had experience.
He got burnt sometimes and maybe should have met in the middle at 9 million. He’s still a better corner and mentor than Randall and Carrie, with all due respect to them. He was the 7th overall pick and had a good career here and is still playing at a high level.
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Inconsistent is the best way to put it. Ward has looked incredible at times, but his play on the deep ball is concerning. He's way ahead of Greedy on that front, but Ward panics EVERY time and grabs the WR's arm. He's gotten away with it a few times, but he's also been called for penalties. The other problem with Ward are the lack of big plays. It's VERY difficult to knock someone for this, but star players make star caliber plays. When was the past time he got a pick? A pick-6? A forced fumble? Greedy has definitely flashed, but it's pretty obvious that he's green. Our defense basically suffers from a perpetual lack of big plays. Terrence Mitchell gets the one interception, and our offense shits the bed. It's so typical. I think that was the drive where Baker threw deep to Landry but he couldn't hold on to it. Was it catchable? Sure looked like it.
Anyway, there's some reason for hope in the future, but right now it's all about the young bucks taking their lumps and learning. I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Dalton torched our secondary Sunday because we'll have no pass rush.
I’m a devote OSU fan probably have a few on here as well.
Ward had better technique at OSU. Played the ball nicely avoided contact and stuck like glue to elite competition.
I’m a devote OSU fan probably have a few on here as well.
Ward had better technique at OSU. Played the ball nicely avoided contact and stuck like glue to elite competition.
Generally that what happens when you're allowed to be an "on ball" kind of corner. A great reason for Denzel's immediate NFL success.
If you'll notice some of the things Wilks is asking our secondary to do, both good and bad, you might find your "technique" comment to turn into a question of its own.
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Hospital Ward hasn't even been close to being good. When are those idiots going to start looking for the ball?
The object of the position is to break up passes, not tackle the guy after he catches the ball.
Hospital Ward hasn't even been close to being good. When are those idiots going to start looking for the ball?
The object of the position is to break up passes, not tackle the guy after he catches the ball.
Ward has been really good except for that last game. Both he and greedy were in the trail technique all game and were actually in good position but never looked for the ball. They both had really bad games because they never got their heads around.
Ward prior to last game was allowing a completion 40.9% of time when he was the targeted db. That percentage put him at the lowest percentage allowed in the league. Jiggins brought up his penalties. While he has more this year than he had all of last year and he has played in less games he hasn't been called as many as some will have you believe. He's been called for 6 penalties this year, of which 5 have been accepted. The 5 accepted penalties have totalled 89 yards. 3 pass interference and 2 defensive holding. The one not accepted penalty was also a defensive holding. That penalty was not accepted because he was called for pass interference the same play. He averages .417 penalties per game. He is leading the team in penalty yards per game played however at 7.417.
Greedy is second on the team in penalty ypg at 6.917. Greedy has 7 penalties with one penalty declined totaling 83 yards.
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Hospital Ward hasn't even been close to being good. When are those idiots going to start looking for the ball?
The object of the position is to break up passes, not tackle the guy after he catches the ball.
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Hospital Ward hasn't even been close to being good. When are those idiots going to start looking for the ball?
The object of the position is to break up passes, not tackle the guy after he catches the ball.
Ward has been really good except for that last game. Both he and greedy were in the trail technique all game and were actually in good position but never looked for the ball. They both had really bad games because they never got their heads around.
Ward prior to last game was allowing a completion 40.9% of time when he was the targeted db. That percentage put him at the lowest percentage allowed in the league. Jiggins brought up his penalties. While he has more this year than he had all of last year and he has played in less games he hasn't been called as many as some will have you believe. He's been called for 6 penalties this year, of which 5 have been accepted. The 5 accepted penalties have totalled 89 yards. 3 pass interference and 2 defensive holding. The one not accepted penalty was also a defensive holding. That penalty was not accepted because he was called for pass interference the same play. He averages .417 penalties per game. He is leading the team in penalty yards per game played however at 7.417.
Greedy is second on the team in penalty ypg at 6.917. Greedy has 7 penalties with one penalty declined totaling 83 yards.
Ward has been really good except for that last game. Both he and greedy were in the trail technique all game and were actually in good position but never looked for the ball. They both had really bad games because they never got their heads around.
Ward prior to last game was allowing a completion 40.9% of time when he was the targeted db. That percentage put him at the lowest percentage allowed in the league. Jiggins brought up his penalties. While he has more this year than he had all of last year and he has played in less games he hasn't been called as many as some will have you believe. He's been called for 6 penalties this year, of which 5 have been accepted. The 5 accepted penalties have totalled 89 yards. 3 pass interference and 2 defensive holding. The one not accepted penalty was also a defensive holding. That penalty was not accepted because he was called for pass interference the same play.
I also saw the CBs get run over a few times, which was the knock on Greedy heading into the draft to begin with: not physical enough.
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Ward has been really good except for that last game. Both he and greedy were in the trail technique all game and were actually in good position but never looked for the ball. They both had really bad games because they never got their heads around.
Ward prior to last game was allowing a completion 40.9% of time when he was the targeted db. That percentage put him at the lowest percentage allowed in the league. Jiggins brought up his penalties. While he has more this year than he had all of last year and he has played in less games he hasn't been called as many as some will have you believe. He's been called for 6 penalties this year, of which 5 have been accepted. The 5 accepted penalties have totalled 89 yards. 3 pass interference and 2 defensive holding. The one not accepted penalty was also a defensive holding. That penalty was not accepted because he was called for pass interference the same play.
I also saw the CBs get run over a few times, which was the knock on Greedy heading into the draft to begin with: not physical enough.
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There was parts of Gregg Williams coaching i could not stand...parts I liked..I thought Gregg was on the right path to getting Ward to break some bad nfl habits..The change to Wilk's system has seemed to either.. slowed it?..or . if not stopped that progress altogether? Every Corner we have now, also seem so hesitate to attack the football underneath..
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Hospital Ward hasn't even been close to being good. When are those idiots going to start looking for the ball?
The object of the position is to break up passes, not tackle the guy after he catches the ball.
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I’m a devote OSU fan probably have a few on here as well.
Ward had better technique at OSU. Played the ball nicely avoided contact and stuck like glue to elite competition.
Generally that what happens when you're allowed to be an "on ball" kind of corner. A great reason for Denzel's immediate NFL success.
If you'll notice some of the things Wilks is asking our secondary to do, both good and bad, you might find your "technique" comment to turn into a question of its own.
It's called "trail technique" guys... and I called it out after Sunday's loss.
Generally that what happens when you're allowed to be an "on ball" kind of corner. A great reason for Denzel's immediate NFL success.
If you'll notice some ofthe things Wilks is asking our secondary to do, both good and bad, you might find your "technique" comment to turn into a question of its own.
There was parts of Gregg Williams coaching i could not stand...parts I liked..I thought Gregg was on the right path to getting Ward to break some bad nfl habits..The change to Wilk's system has seemed to either.. slowed it?..or . if not stopped that progress altogether? Every Corner we have now, also seem so hesitate to attack the football underneath..
Put these two comments together because both allude to the DC change and the CBs are being asked to play differently... sometimes this season week to week.
Since Greedy's return his tackling has exceeded my expectations set this past preseason and in his showings prior to being hurt.
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It's called "trail technique" guys... and I called it out after Sunday's loss.
Generally that what happens when you're allowed to be an "on ball" kind of corner. A great reason for Denzel's immediate NFL success.
If you'll notice some ofthe things Wilks is asking our secondary to do, both good and bad, you might find your "technique" comment to turn into a question of its own.
There was parts of Gregg Williams coaching i could not stand...parts I liked..I thought Gregg was on the right path to getting Ward to break some bad nfl habits..The change to Wilk's system has seemed to either.. slowed it?..or . if not stopped that progress altogether? Every Corner we have now, also seem so hesitate to attack the football underneath..
Put these two comments together because both allude to the DC change and the CBs are being asked to play differently... sometimes this season week to week.
Since Greedy's return his tackling has exceeded my expectations set this past preseason and in his showings prior to being hurt.
It's called "trail technique" guys... and I called it out after Sunday's loss.
Put these two comments together because both allude to the DC change and the CBs are being asked to play differently... sometimes this season week to week.
Since Greedy's return his tackling has exceeded my expectations set this past preseason and in his showings prior to being hurt.
I thought I saw Greedy get run over by a Mack truck last week.
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It's called "trail technique" guys... and I called it out after Sunday's loss.
Put these two comments together because both allude to the DC change and the CBs are being asked to play differently... sometimes this season week to week.
Since Greedy's return his tackling has exceeded my expectations set this past preseason and in his showings prior to being hurt.
I thought I saw Greedy get run over by a Mack truck last week.
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Hospital Ward hasn't even been close to being good. When are those idiots going to start looking for the ball?
The object of the position is to break up passes, not tackle the guy after he catches the ball.
Ward has been really good except for that last game. Both he and greedy were in the trail technique all game and were actually in good position but never looked for the ball. They both had really bad games because they never got their heads around.
Ward prior to last game was allowing a completion 40.9% of time when he was the targeted db. That percentage put him at the lowest percentage allowed in the league. Jiggins brought up his penalties. While he has more this year than he had all of last year and he has played in less games he hasn't been called as many as some will have you believe. He's been called for 6 penalties this year, of which 5 have been accepted. The 5 accepted penalties have totalled 89 yards. 3 pass interference and 2 defensive holding. The one not accepted penalty was also a defensive holding. That penalty was not accepted because he was called for pass interference the same play. He averages .417 penalties per game. He is leading the team in penalty yards per game played however at 7.417.
Greedy is second on the team in penalty ypg at 6.917. Greedy has 7 penalties with one penalty declined totaling 83 yards.
Ward has been really good except for that last game. Both he and greedy were in the trail technique all game and were actually in good position but never looked for the ball. They both had really bad games because they never got their heads around.
Ward prior to last game was allowing a completion 40.9% of time when he was the targeted db. That percentage put him at the lowest percentage allowed in the league. Jiggins brought up his penalties. While he has more this year than he had all of last year and he has played in less games he hasn't been called as many as some will have you believe. He's been called for 6 penalties this year, of which 5 have been accepted. The 5 accepted penalties have totalled 89 yards. 3 pass interference and 2 defensive holding. The one not accepted penalty was also a defensive holding. That penalty was not accepted because he was called for pass interference the same play. He averages .417 penalties per game. He is leading the team in penalty yards per game played however at 7.417.
Greedy is second on the team in penalty ypg at 6.917. Greedy has 7 penalties with one penalty declined totaling 83 yards.
Nice post. I do take issue about looking up. They never look up. That is what pisses me off. They are in good position to make a play on the ball, but would rather watch the receiver catch it, then tackle them. On short passes, when they see the receiver start to look for the ball, they need to start looking for the ball. It's going to get there. On deep balls, when they see the receiver start looking, they can take a extra step or two because it isn't going to be there as quickly. I don't care if they pick it, just knock it down.
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