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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #1

    Here are the NFL Top 100   Defensive Backs and Special teams players of all time:

    Cornerbacks:

    Mel Blount

    Mike Haynes

    Dick "Night Train" Lane

    Willie Brown

    Darrell Green

    Deion Sanders

    Rod Woodson

    Safeties:

    Ronnie Lott

    Jack Christianson

    Ken Houston

    Ed Reed

    Emlen Tunnell

    Larry Wilson

    Kickers

    Jan Stenurud

    Adam Vinatieri

    Punters

    Shane Lechler

    Ray Guy

    Kick Returners

    Devin Hester

    Billy "White Shoes" Johnson

    Who, if anyone do you think they snubbed?

    GorkaG 1 Reply
  • Browns149B Browns149 wrote on
    #2

     Josh Cribbs was better than White Shoes. So was Eric Metcalf

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
    The GipperT 2 Replies
  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #3

    I will start with this:

    A.  On the Kick Returners,  Devin Hester I have no problem with.......but Billy "White Shoes" Johnson seems to have gotten in mainly based on his flambouyancy, not his stats.     Either Josh Cribbs or Eric Metcalf should be in:

    1. Hester has 14 career  punt return TDs  (#1 all time) plus 5 KO return TDs, so, as I said, not problem with him.   But Cribbs is THE all time Kickoff Return for TD leader with 8 KO returns....plus he had 3 punt return TDs.    Eric Metcalf is  #2 overall in punt return TDs with 10....plus he had 2 KO return TDs.    Billy Johnson had  6 punt return TDs,  but that only puts him #9.   Guys like Rick Upchurch, Brian Mitchell, Dave Megget, Desmond Howard and a few others had more than him.   Plus, he only had 2 KO return TDs......and there are 125 other players that had that number or more.  

    Both Metcalf and Cribbs would have been better choices.

    B.  I guess, unlike with other positions, for kicker, they decided not not include the old school guy.   Vinatieri IS the all time scoring leader in NFL history.  But  better field conditions,  better techniques,   and playing a 16 game schedule all give him advantages.

    Lou Groza could have been a choice:   or, maybe, George Blanda.  Recall that Groza played his entire career with only playing 12 or 14 game schedules...so his opportunities were less.  Plus...he led the league in scoring like 6 times, plus in FG% like 5 times.  Stenerud was good,  but was he better than say Morten Andersen or Gary Andersone?  

  • Browns149B Browns149

     Josh Cribbs was better than White Shoes. So was Eric Metcalf

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #4

    @browns149 said:

     Josh Cribbs was better than White Shoes. So was Eric Metcalf

    I was working on my post when you made yours.  Great minds think alike.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #5

    I also think that  Paul Krause should have been included with the safeties.

    And maybe Champ Bailey with the Corners. 

    Some tough choices there. 

  • Browns149B Browns149

     Josh Cribbs was better than White Shoes. So was Eric Metcalf

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #6

    More

    @browns149 said:

     Josh Cribbs was better than White Shoes. So was Eric Metcalf

    More stats to bolster our position:

    KO return average:

    Cribbs #3  overall

    Metcalf #20 overall

    Johnson #124

    Punt return average:

    Metcalf   #5 overall

    Johnson #7

    Cribbs  #27

    And, to be fair:    Brian Mitchell is actually #1 overall in BOTH categories...., plus he had 9 punt return TDs (#3 overall), and 4 KO return TDs  #19 overall)

    He probably should have been chosen

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Here are the NFL Top 100   Defensive Backs and Special teams players of all time:

    Cornerbacks:

    Mel Blount

    Mike Haynes

    Dick "Night Train" Lane

    Willie Brown

    Darrell Green

    Deion Sanders

    Rod Woodson

    Safeties:

    Ronnie Lott

    Jack Christianson

    Ken Houston

    Ed Reed

    Emlen Tunnell

    Larry Wilson

    Kickers

    Jan Stenurud

    Adam Vinatieri

    Punters

    Shane Lechler

    Ray Guy

    Kick Returners

    Devin Hester

    Billy "White Shoes" Johnson

    Who, if anyone do you think they snubbed?

    GorkaG Gorka wrote on
    #7

    @the-gipper said:

    Here are the NFL Top 100   Defensive Backs and Special teams players of all time:

    Cornerbacks:

    Mel Blount

    Mike Haynes

    Dick "Night Train" Lane

    Willie Brown

    Darrell Green

    Deion Sanders

    Rod Woodson

    Safeties:

    Ronnie Lott

    Jack Christianson

    Ken Houston

    Ed Reed

    Emlen Tunnell

    Larry Wilson

    Kickers

    Jan Stenurud

    Adam Vinatieri

    Punters

    Shane Lechler

    Ray Guy

    Kick Returners

    Devin Hester

    Billy "White Shoes" Johnson

    Who, if anyone do you think they snubbed?

    Yeah I think someone got snubbed and couldn't care less that he did.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #8

    Too many old timers for my taste. I get Wilson and NightTrain, but Christenson and Tunnell???

    Not feeling Willie Brown.

    Hard to believe Tatum wasn't there... and I was pulling for Dixon to show.

    I still remember the comment in the "Top Ten CB Tandems" countdown which put Dixon/Minniefield at #2... "In 1987 only 7 passes were thrown in Hanford Dixon's direction."

    In 1987 Dixon had three INTs.

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  • GorkaG Gorka

    @the-gipper said:

    Here are the NFL Top 100   Defensive Backs and Special teams players of all time:

    Cornerbacks:

    Mel Blount

    Mike Haynes

    Dick "Night Train" Lane

    Willie Brown

    Darrell Green

    Deion Sanders

    Rod Woodson

    Safeties:

    Ronnie Lott

    Jack Christianson

    Ken Houston

    Ed Reed

    Emlen Tunnell

    Larry Wilson

    Kickers

    Jan Stenurud

    Adam Vinatieri

    Punters

    Shane Lechler

    Ray Guy

    Kick Returners

    Devin Hester

    Billy "White Shoes" Johnson

    Who, if anyone do you think they snubbed?

    Yeah I think someone got snubbed and couldn't care less that he did.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #9

    @gorka said:

    Yeah I think someone got snubbed and couldn't care less that he did.

    Did you care when they sewed up your cunny? 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Too many old timers for my taste. I get Wilson and NightTrain, but Christenson and Tunnell???

    Not feeling Willie Brown.

    Hard to believe Tatum wasn't there... and I was pulling for Dixon to show.

    I still remember the comment in the "Top Ten CB Tandems" countdown which put Dixon/Minniefield at #2... "In 1987 only 7 passes were thrown in Hanford Dixon's direction."

    In 1987 Dixon had three INTs.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #10

    @tour2ma said:

    Too many old timers for my taste. I get Wilson and NightTrain, but Christenson and Tunnell???

    Not feeling Willie Brown.

    Hard to believe Tatum wasn't there... and I was pulling for Dixon to show.

    I  also thought they may have gone for Willie Wood, or Herb Adderly.  Agree on Tatum...but they were never going to put him on here because of the Stingley situation. 

    I still remember the comment in the "Top Ten CB Tandems" countdown which put Dixon/Minniefield at #2... "In 1987 only 7 passes were thrown in Hanford Dixon's direction."

    In 1987 Dixon had three INTs.

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