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Patriots caught filming Cincy's bench signals..in Browns' press box !

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  • @calfoxwc said:

    well, because they do it for all opponents maybe? and/or, the Bengals do have a good defense? because...

    they have been struggling and losing lately?

    go look. I clearly said "Bengals".

    @calfoxwc said:

    go look. I clearly said "Bengals".

    Is this idiot arguing with himself? 

  • While it's known that the patriots will push the limits why would they spy on the worst team in the league?

    @dusty said:

    While it's known that the patriots will push the limits why would they spy on the worst team in the league?

    I could compare it to something else...but won't.

    The bottom line appears to be the familiar Pats mantra:

    If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'.

  • Obviously they just got caught and they’ve probably ran recon numerous times this year.

    unless they are just getting ready for their big game against the Bengals

  • Yeah, the Patriots need to cheat to beat the worst team in the league.  Is that what the thinking on this board is?

  • Thread should be moved to the Political section...

  • Thread should be moved to the Political section...

    @tour2ma said:

    Thread should be moved to the Political section...

    Then off a cliff, along with the political forum. 

  • I mean, the only thing no one is saying (thank God) is that if this was some advanced scouting don't the Browns look like idiots letting them do it? At least a bit right?

    Anyone, this is classic "boy who cried wolf" to me. Maybe that linked article is true, but I'm not going to buy it.

    Edit: Guess not-https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28261318/patriots-say-video-crew-filmed-sideline-bengals-browns-game

  • Yeah, the Patriots need to cheat to beat the worst team in the league.  Is that what the thinking on this board is?

    @orion said:

    Yeah, the Patriots need to cheat to beat the worst team in the league.  Is that what the thinking on this board is?

    No....the thinking is that cheating seems to be just endemic to their nature...no matter who they are playing.

  • @orion said:

    Yeah, the Patriots need to cheat to beat the worst team in the league.  Is that what the thinking on this board is?

    No....the thinking is that cheating seems to be just endemic to their nature...no matter who they are playing.

    @the-gipper said:

    No....the thinking is that cheating seems to be just endemic to their nature...no matter who they are playing.

    That's the Bill Belichick school of winning at all cost regardless of any consequences much moreso than every other team and coaches desire to win and excell.

    It's a sickness with him. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    No....the thinking is that cheating seems to be just endemic to their nature...no matter who they are playing.

    That's the Bill Belichick school of winning at all cost regardless of any consequences much moreso than every other team and coaches desire to win and excell.

    It's a sickness with him. 

    @mjp28 said:

    That's the Bill Belichick school of winning at all cost regardless of any consequences much moreso than every other team and coaches desire to win and excell.

    It's a sickness with him. 

    He must have caught that disease after he left Cleveland, seeing that he had 4 out of 5 losing seasons here.

  • Yeah, the Patriots need to cheat to beat the worst team in the league.  Is that what the thinking on this board is?

    @orion said:

    Yeah, the Patriots need to cheat to beat the worst team in the league.  Is that what the thinking on this board is?

    It's not what we think it's what Belichick obviously thinks as latest reports state they filmed 8 minutes of Cincinatti's hand signals and substitutions during the game before the videographer was busted.

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  • can dbone get a clue? But he won't get it from the gay princess twins who think they invented football....

    https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2019/12/10/Patriots-admit-video-crew-filmed-field-during-Bengals-Browns-game/3841575987337/

    "Dec. 10 (UPI) -- The New England Patriots have admitted they violated NFL rules after "inappropriately" filming the field when the Cincinnati Bengals played the Cleveland Browns Sunday in Cleveland. "

    '"We understand and acknowledge that our video crew, which included independent contractors who shot the video, unknowingly violated a league policy by filming the field and sideline from the press box. '

  • So they basically say "sorry" and it all goes away?

  • @mjp28 said:

    That's the Bill Belichick school of winning at all cost regardless of any consequences much moreso than every other team and coaches desire to win and excell.

    It's a sickness with him. 

    He must have caught that disease after he left Cleveland, seeing that he had 4 out of 5 losing seasons here.

    @the-gipper said:

    He must have caught that disease after he left Cleveland, seeing that he had 4 out of 5 losing seasons here.

    I have Bill at 41-57 (418%) before Tom Brady took over full time on week 3 2001......... Chicken or the egg? I say the yoke is on Bill. 

    That being said, he's still one of the greatest coaches ever, in any sport.

    ^ cue the crying................................

  • @the-gipper said:

    He must have caught that disease after he left Cleveland, seeing that he had 4 out of 5 losing seasons here.

    I have Bill at 41-57 (418%) before Tom Brady took over full time on week 3 2001......... Chicken or the egg? I say the yoke is on Bill. 

    That being said, he's still one of the greatest coaches ever, in any sport.

    ^ cue the crying................................

    @d-bone said:

    I have Bill at 41-57 (418%) before Tom Brady took over full time on week 3 2001......... Chicken or the egg? I say the yoke is on Bill. 

    That being said, he's still one of the greatest coaches ever, in any sport.

    ^ cue the crying................................

    Well, he has one of the best records.....as a coach/QB  combination.    He and Brady are perhaps second only to  Paul Brown/Otto Graham in that regard.

    But, note:  After OG left Cleveland,  PB was only able to get the Browns into one title game thereafter:    1957 with Tommy O'Connell at QB.   BB has never come close without TB  (one postseason win with Vinny T. at QB.)

    It is one of the reasons, to be honest....that I happen to think that Joe Gibbs was such a great coach.....yes, better than BB.   He took teams that were QBed by:   Joe Theisman, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams to  Super Bowl victiories .   Lost another with Theisman....None of those QBs came close to HOF consideration.....nor were they considered elite QBs when they played.  (except, maybe Theisman for a bit)

  • @d-bone said:

    I have Bill at 41-57 (418%) before Tom Brady took over full time on week 3 2001......... Chicken or the egg? I say the yoke is on Bill. 

    That being said, he's still one of the greatest coaches ever, in any sport.

    ^ cue the crying................................

    Well, he has one of the best records.....as a coach/QB  combination.    He and Brady are perhaps second only to  Paul Brown/Otto Graham in that regard.

    But, note:  After OG left Cleveland,  PB was only able to get the Browns into one title game thereafter:    1957 with Tommy O'Connell at QB.   BB has never come close without TB  (one postseason win with Vinny T. at QB.)

    It is one of the reasons, to be honest....that I happen to think that Joe Gibbs was such a great coach.....yes, better than BB.   He took teams that were QBed by:   Joe Theisman, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams to  Super Bowl victiories .   Lost another with Theisman....None of those QBs came close to HOF consideration.....nor were they considered elite QBs when they played.  (except, maybe Theisman for a bit)

    @the-gipper said:

    It is one of the reasons, to be honest....that I happen to think that Joe Gibbs was such a great coach.....yes, better than BB.   He took teams that were QBed by:   Joe Theisman, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams to  Super Bowl victiories .   Lost another with Theisman....None of those QBs came close to HOF consideration.....nor were they considered elite QBs when they played.  (except, maybe Theisman for a bit)

    Hard to argue with that.... add on the fact that Coach Gibbs is such a quality human being, and you've got yourself one of the GOATs for sure. 

  • @orion said:

    Yeah, the Patriots need to cheat to beat the worst team in the league.  Is that what the thinking on this board is?

    It's not what we think it's what Belichick obviously thinks as latest reports state they filmed 8 minutes of Cincinatti's hand signals and substitutions during the game before the videographer was busted.

    @mddawg said:

    It's not what we think it's what Belichick obviously thinks

    And Belichick stated that, Yeah, I heard about it...but that's the TV show Production side of things.  What they're doing he has no idea and hasn't seen any of that stuff that those people do.  I'm assuming that some of those TV production people are now looking for new jobs.

  • @mjp28 said:

    That's the Bill Belichick school of winning at all cost regardless of any consequences much moreso than every other team and coaches desire to win and excell.

    It's a sickness with him. 

    He must have caught that disease after he left Cleveland, seeing that he had 4 out of 5 losing seasons here.

    @the-gipper said:

    He must have caught that disease after he left Cleveland, seeing that he had 4 out of 5 losing seasons here.

    Probably prompted him to cheat.

    It's not hard to look like a defensive genius when you know the play that is going to be run.

    At least in baseball the hitter still has to hit the ball, which is hard in and of itself.

  • @the-gipper said:

    He must have caught that disease after he left Cleveland, seeing that he had 4 out of 5 losing seasons here.

    Probably prompted him to cheat.

    It's not hard to look like a defensive genius when you know the play that is going to be run.

    At least in baseball the hitter still has to hit the ball, which is hard in and of itself.

    @ballpeen said:

    cheat.

    There's an old sports saying, If you cheat and get away with it, then it's a good play.  And yet they use to put the teams in charge of proper inflation of the footballs.   

    OL coaches use to (perhaps still do) teach how to hold and get away with it.

    Baseball, corked bats, emery boards, spitballs, stealing signs.....