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  • Landry being pissed is the end of the line for Freddie. Fred is dead. 

    Never mind the otherwise total shit show against a team you should at least be competitive against. ?

  • He’s got to go. The team has totally quit this game

    The coaching staff has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to warrant another year

  • The thing that plays against Kitchens is that I remember playing some games that we were close to winning last year, but finally didn't. We could have started 4-0 and nobody would have been really surprised (Steelers' tie, Saints kicking fiasco, Raiders' refball...) We were a few plays away from winning. Then we fired Hue and the team turned the table to end the season 7-8-1. It was an exciting season overall, even when losing games. 

    This year, many times what I think is 'wtf are we doing'. Bad discipline, playcalls get late, cute playcalls that go nowhere, stupid challenges, players with no mental toughness, a quaterback speaking and doing commercials BUT NOT playing like he should... Feelings are polar opposite to a 'learning coach' or an 'improving team'. I wish I could think otherwise.

  • fire em all move the team

  • fire em all move the team

    @atom said:

    fire em all move the team

    Fuck that, fire them yes but if anyone moves it’s gonna have to be you. 

  • Enough is enough, this team QUIT today. Season is done. We're gonna finish 7-9 with one of the best rosters in football. Please FIRE Freddie.......................hopefully before they board the plane to go home.

  • Freddie Freeloader is CLUELESS!

  • Enough is enough, this team QUIT today. Season is done. We're gonna finish 7-9 with one of the best rosters in football. Please FIRE Freddie.......................hopefully before they board the plane to go home.

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    Enough is enough, this team QUIT today. Season is done. We're gonna finish 7-9 with one of the best rosters in football. Please FIRE Freddie.......................hopefully before they board the plane to go home.

    They won’t beat CINCY if they play like they did today

  • Answer me this if they finish 6-10 even 7-9 can they justify keeping Freddie as HC ?

  • Well looks like Freddie rejected the lifeline with that performance, maybe it's for the best.

  • Answer me this if they finish 6-10 even 7-9 can they justify keeping Freddie as HC ?

    @mjp28 said:

    Answer me this if they finish 6-10 even 7-9 can they justify keeping Freddie as HC ?

    No

  • Was watching the Eagles/Redskins earlier and the Fox announcers were playing up the fact that Urban was watching the game from Dan Browns box. They even had a graphic of the Redskin coaches records. While I don't believe Urban will coach anytime soon. What are the thoughts of him being a Brown?

  • Answer me this if they finish 6-10 even 7-9 can they justify keeping Freddie as HC ?

    @mjp28 said:

    Answer me this if they finish 6-10 even 7-9 can they justify keeping Freddie as HC ?

    the last i looked, this team is still owned by the Haslams..not Dorsey nor Baker can save Gomer's Pyle's ? at this point... 

  • Was watching the Eagles/Redskins earlier and the Fox announcers were playing up the fact that Urban was watching the game from Dan Browns box. They even had a graphic of the Redskin coaches records. While I don't believe Urban will coach anytime soon. What are the thoughts of him being a Brown?

    @dusty said:

    Was watching the Eagles/Redskins earlier and the Fox announcers were playing up the fact that Urban was watching the game from Dan Browns box. They even had a graphic of the Redskin coaches records. While I don't believe Urban will coach anytime soon. What are the thoughts of him being a Brown?

    He's automatically better than this fatass!

  • The bandwag...er haywagon has tipped over on freddie...

    Kitchens is sinking this ship...

  • Ok it’s time to make a coaching change.  I am very very against making a change just after one year or even two, but Fred’s has got to go.  When a coach takes over a team it is expected to be a little bumpy.  Even if it is bumpy you are supposed to see improvement.  They is no improvement.  Baker has regressed, he keeps throwing the ball high or behind causing tips and ints.  And with the d yeah there are injuries and they have held there own a little but minus Myles they are a mess.  That’s all coaching. Yes they have been screwed by the nfl to many times to count, but the fact of the matter is no improvement.  Fred’s got to go. 

  • Baker got figured out from last year...he is too short and has to overthrow because he cant see...flash in the pan...great at commercials tho??

  • Baker got figured out from last year...he is too short and has to overthrow because he cant see...flash in the pan...great at commercials tho??

    @kvoethe said:

    Baker got figured out from last year...he is too short and has to overthrow because he cant see...flash in the pan...great at commercials tho??

    He is not to short that’s silly He is as tall as bres and Wilson that’s not the issue.  One is the time the line gives him they have been terrible all year In pass protection and they are running a Gimmick style offense that doesn’t work.  They biggest thing with the o is not down field attack. 

  • @kvoethe said:

    Baker got figured out from last year...he is too short and has to overthrow because he cant see...flash in the pan...great at commercials tho??

    He is not to short that’s silly He is as tall as bres and Wilson that’s not the issue.  One is the time the line gives him they have been terrible all year In pass protection and they are running a Gimmick style offense that doesn’t work.  They biggest thing with the o is not down field attack. 

    @babernakle said:

    He is not to short that’s silly He is as tall as bres and Wilson that’s not the issue. 

    Unfortunately there are more than plenty of examples to demonstrate that Bakers height does work against him at times.  I've even noted it in the previous Browns v Bengals thread while piggybacking of a well respected NFL youtube analyst.      Breesy and Wilson have their own issues with height at times but adaptation, proper coaching, more intelligently designed offenses and the like have helped them to over come that deficit. 

  • @babernakle said:

    He is not to short that’s silly He is as tall as bres and Wilson that’s not the issue. 

    Unfortunately there are more than plenty of examples to demonstrate that Bakers height does work against him at times.  I've even noted it in the previous Browns v Bengals thread while piggybacking of a well respected NFL youtube analyst.      Breesy and Wilson have their own issues with height at times but adaptation, proper coaching, more intelligently designed offenses and the like have helped them to over come that deficit. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Unfortunately there are more than plenty of examples to demonstrate that Bakers height does work against him at times.  I've even noted it in the previous Browns v Bengals thread while piggybacking of a well respected NFL youtube analyst.      Breesy and Wilson have their own issues with height at times but adaptation, proper coaching, more intelligently designed offenses and the like have helped them to over come that deficit. 

    Yes coaching he has not improved