The 'Who you watching?' 2020 thread.
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Here's some draft talk for you. Take the following 1st round scenario I came across playing with one of the draft sims, First-Pick.
- Cinci trades out of the #1 overall with JAX. They figure one of the two top QBs will be there at #8, their next pick. JAX selects Chase Young with the #1 overall.
- NYG takes one of the hotter Edge prospects, AJ Epesa, Iowa.
- MIA takes a LT... Tristen Wirfs, Iowa... surprising, but they have more 1sts with which to get a QB (they take Hebert later).
- NYJ trades up with WSH to take the other hot LT prospect, Andrew Thomas, UGA...
- DET takes the hot LB prospect... LSU's Isaiah Simmons.
- AZ is on the clock...
- You know from pre-draft discussions (or playing the sim earlier) that if you offer AZ your 2020 and 2021 #1's they will likely say yes.
- The three players you were (or at least I was) targeting (Wirfs, Thomas, Simmons) when you had the early convos with AZ are all gone, but...
- Joe Burrows is there.
Do you call AZ and make the offer?
If not for Joe, is there another prospect you think worth the price, e.g., Delpit, LSU's Safety, or Buckeye CB, Okudah?
LB I.Simmons plays at The' Clemson University
...My BPA is Auburn DT Derrick Brown...need is S Delpit..we get Bake a Vet not named Stanton..
LB I.Simmons plays at The' Clemson University
...My BPA is Auburn DT Derrick Brown...need is S Delpit..we get Bake a Vet not named Stanton..
Fixed... don't know why, but every year I give LSU an extra prospect or two.
Brown's a top DL to be sure, but seems rich for two #1s... as does Delpit. Okudah might be that good, but not a trade I'd make for him.
FWIW... I took Burrows... ?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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LB I.Simmons plays at The' Clemson University
...My BPA is Auburn DT Derrick Brown...need is S Delpit..we get Bake a Vet not named Stanton..
Fixed... don't know why, but every year I give LSU an extra prospect or two.
Brown's a top DL to be sure, but seems rich for two #1s... as does Delpit. Okudah might be that good, but not a trade I'd make for him.
FWIW... I took Burrows... ?
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LB I.Simmons plays at The' Clemson University
...My BPA is Auburn DT Derrick Brown...need is S Delpit..we get Bake a Vet not named Stanton..
Fixed... don't know why, but every year I give LSU an extra prospect or two.
Brown's a top DL to be sure, but seems rich for two #1s... as does Delpit. Okudah might be that good, but not a trade I'd make for him.
FWIW... I took Burrows... ?
FWIW... I took Burrows... ?
after 15 minutes u would have seen 'took Burrow didn't ya" lol... 2 1's rich$
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Burrow isn't making it out of the top
52.FIFY...
Yeah... I hear you, but if he did would you go get him?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
FIFY...
Yeah... I hear you, but if he did would you go get him?
No. You don't quit on Baker yet. You've seen the potential. You just get a competent staff around him
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I love mocks that have us taking a safety, or worse, a WR
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FIFY...
Yeah... I hear you, but if he did would you go get him?
As of typing this, Burrow might be the best 'pro ready' looking QB I've seen since Luck. Kid has it all.
Would I pull the trigger on that? I don't think I can answer that as of now. But I'm not jealous of the person who would be in the position to make such a difficult choice.
Edit: I will say this - lost in all the talk of Freddie and Wilks, I believe this team (really, Baker) misses the knowledge and direction coach Zampese provided.
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Here's some draft talk for you. Take the following 1st round scenario I came across playing with one of the draft sims, First-Pick.
- Cinci trades out of the #1 overall with JAX. They figure one of the two top QBs will be there at #8, their next pick. JAX selects Chase Young with the #1 overall.
- NYG takes one of the hotter Edge prospects, AJ Epesa, Iowa.
- MIA takes a LT... Tristen Wirfs, Iowa... surprising, but they have more 1sts with which to get a QB (they take Hebert later).
- NYJ trades up with WSH to take the other hot LT prospect, Andrew Thomas, UGA...
- DET takes the hot LB prospect... Clemson's Isaiah Simmons.
- AZ is on the clock...
- You know from pre-draft discussions (or playing the sim earlier) that if you offer AZ your 2020 and 2021 #1's they will likely say yes.
- The three players you were (or at least I was) targeting (Wirfs, Thomas, Simmons) when you had the early convos with AZ are all gone, but...
- Joe Burrows is there.
Do you call AZ and make the offer?
If not for Joe, is there another prospect you think worth the price, e.g., Delpit, LSU's Safety, or Buckeye CB, Okudah?
Here's some draft talk for you. Take the following 1st round scenario I came across playing with one of the draft sims, First-Pick.
- Cinci trades out of the #1 overall with JAX. They figure one of the two top QBs will be there at #8, their next pick. JAX selects Chase Young with the #1 overall.
- NYG takes one of the hotter Edge prospects, AJ Epesa, Iowa.
- MIA takes a LT... Tristen Wirfs, Iowa... surprising, but they have more 1sts with which to get a QB (they take Hebert later).
- NYJ trades up with WSH to take the other hot LT prospect, Andrew Thomas, UGA...
- DET takes the hot LB prospect... Clemson's Isaiah Simmons.
- AZ is on the clock...
- You know from pre-draft discussions (or playing the sim earlier) that if you offer AZ your 2020 and 2021 #1's they will likely say yes.
- The three players you were (or at least I was) targeting (Wirfs, Thomas, Simmons) when you had the early convos with AZ are all gone, but...
- Joe Burrows is there.
Do you call AZ and make the offer?
If not for Joe, is there another prospect you think worth the price, e.g., Delpit, LSU's Safety, or Buckeye CB, Okudah?
If you are who? The Browns? No way. I mean, I like Joe Burrow.....but I by no means see him as a sure fire can't miss pro prospect. He reminds me of Jared Goff...who I think of in the same light. Sure, Goff played well enough to get his team to the SB...in the right system. And the same could be true with Joe. But, as a Browns fan, I am in no way clamoring for Burrow over Baker.....if that is your implication.
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Pick a player whose first name begins with De or La, or has unnecessary apostrophes in their name. They seem to work out. Also an Anglo Saxonish last name. The more apostrophes the better. Like DeForest Kelley or something.
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Pick a player whose first name begins with De or La, or has unnecessary apostrophes in their name. They seem to work out. Also an Anglo Saxonish last name. The more apostrophes the better. Like DeForest Kelley or something.
Pick a player whose first name begins with De or La, or has unnecessary apostrophes in their name. They seem to work out. Also an Anglo Saxonish last name. The more apostrophes the better. Like DeForest Kelley or something.
You mean like Dennis or Larry?
DeCastro? De with Hispanic last name.
Or are you looking for like "O'Neil" O'Brian O'Gill
Then their was By'not'e Butler.
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Pick a player whose first name begins with De or La, or has unnecessary apostrophes in their name. They seem to work out. Also an Anglo Saxonish last name. The more apostrophes the better. Like DeForest Kelley or something.
Pick a player whose first name begins with De or La, or has unnecessary apostrophes in their name. They seem to work out. Also an Anglo Saxonish last name. The more apostrophes the better. Like DeForest Kelley or something.
Like Leroy DeForest Kelly ?
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Gip I think his name was Butler By’note’. Unfortunately he was just a journeyman d back, and By’note’ became a mere fo’otnote’. If he had but one more unnecessary apostrophe he might have become a star.
Guys with an Islamic sounding first name and the last name from one of the early Presidents are also potentially good draft picks. Mohammed Jackson, Khalid Van Buren, Jamal Jefferson.
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No. You don't quit on Baker yet. You've seen the potential. You just get a competent staff around him
Or you push Baker with some real competition. I think he came into this season a little complacent. It was his first one in years where he did to have to fight for the starting job.
Plus one of the reasons I'd pull that trigger is that regardless of which QB won the job, I feel that at minimum I'd recover a 2021 1st-round pick when I traded the runner-up.
As of typing this, Burrow might be the best 'pro ready' looking QB I've seen since Luck. Kid has it all.
Agree... he's my new, "Best since Luck" as well. That's why it's easy to pull that trigger.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Gip I think his name was Butler By’note’. Unfortunately he was just a journeyman d back, and By’note’ became a mere fo’otnote’. If he had but one more unnecessary apostrophe he might have become a star.
Guys with an Islamic sounding first name and the last name from one of the early Presidents are also potentially good draft picks. Mohammed Jackson, Khalid Van Buren, Jamal Jefferson.
Gip I think his name was Butler By’note’. Unfortunately he was just a journeyman d back, and By’note’ became a mere fo’otnote’. If he had but one more unnecessary apostrophe he might have become a star.
Guys with an Islamic sounding first name and the last name from one of the early Presidents are also potentially good draft picks. Mohammed Jackson, Khalid Van Buren, Jamal Jefferson.
Malik Monroe? Jor-el Washington, Kal-el Adams Zor-el Hancock?
Err, wait, some of those are Kryptonian names.
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Here's some draft talk for you. Take the following 1st round scenario I came across playing with one of the draft sims, First-Pick.
- Cinci trades out of the #1 overall with JAX. They figure one of the two top QBs will be there at #8, their next pick. JAX selects Chase Young with the #1 overall.
- NYG takes one of the hotter Edge prospects, AJ Epesa, Iowa.
- MIA takes a LT... Tristen Wirfs, Iowa... surprising, but they have more 1sts with which to get a QB (they take Hebert later).
- NYJ trades up with WSH to take the other hot LT prospect, Andrew Thomas, UGA...
- DET takes the hot LB prospect... Clemson's Isaiah Simmons.
- AZ is on the clock...
- You know from pre-draft discussions (or playing the sim earlier) that if you offer AZ your 2020 and 2021 #1's they will likely say yes.
- The three players you were (or at least I was) targeting (Wirfs, Thomas, Simmons) when you had the early convos with AZ are all gone, but...
- Joe Burrows is there.
Do you call AZ and make the offer?
If not for Joe, is there another prospect you think worth the price, e.g., Delpit, LSU's Safety, or Buckeye CB, Okudah?
Do you call AZ and make the offer?
oh, hell no. IT makes no sense to go after a qb, even that kid from LSU - and still have the problems
with the offensive line. Now, if I had a chance at Young...then....
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oh, hell no. IT makes no sense to go after a qb, even that kid from LSU - and still have the problems
with the offensive line. Now, if I had a chance at Young...then....
These are the prospects that are ranked between 10 and 20 by CBS for what that is worth. Anyone of interest?
10 Javon Kinlaw South Carolina Sr DL 1 6-6 310 11 A.J. Epenesa Iowa Jr EDGE 2 6-6 280 12 Henry Ruggs III Alabama Jr WR 3 6-0 190 13 Derrick Brown Auburn Sr DL 2 6-5 318 14 Kristian Fulton LSU Sr CB 2 6-0 200 15 Tristan Wirfs Iowa Jr OL 2 6-5 322 16 D'Andre Swift Georgia Jr RB 1 5-9 215 17 Kenneth Murray Oklahoma Jr LB 1 6-2 234 18 Tee Higgins Clemson Jr WR 4 6-4 215 19 Jedrick Wills Jr. Alabama Jr OL 3 6-5 320 20 Yetur Gross-Matos Penn St. Jr EDGE 3 6-5 264 -
Wirfs then
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oh, hell no. IT makes no sense to go after a qb, even that kid from LSU - and still have the problems
with the offensive line. Now, if I had a chance at Young...then....
These are the prospects that are ranked between 10 and 20 by CBS for what that is worth. Anyone of interest?
10 Javon Kinlaw South Carolina Sr DL 1 6-6 310 11 A.J. Epenesa Iowa Jr EDGE 2 6-6 280 12 Henry Ruggs III Alabama Jr WR 3 6-0 190 13 Derrick Brown Auburn Sr DL 2 6-5 318 14 Kristian Fulton LSU Sr CB 2 6-0 200 15 Tristan Wirfs Iowa Jr OL 2 6-5 322 16 D'Andre Swift Georgia Jr RB 1 5-9 215 17 Kenneth Murray Oklahoma Jr LB 1 6-2 234 18 Tee Higgins Clemson Jr WR 4 6-4 215 19 Jedrick Wills Jr. Alabama Jr OL 3 6-5 320 20 Yetur Gross-Matos Penn St. Jr EDGE 3 6-5 264 These are the prospects that are ranked between 10 and 20 by CBS for what that is worth. Anyone of interest?
10 Javon Kinlaw South Carolina Sr DL 1 6-6 310 11 A.J. Epenesa Iowa Jr EDGE 2 6-6 280 12 Henry Ruggs III Alabama Jr WR 3 6-0 190 13 Derrick Brown Auburn Sr DL 2 6-5 318 14 Kristian Fulton LSU Sr CB 2 6-0 200 15 Tristan Wirfs Iowa Jr OL 2 6-5 322 16 D'Andre Swift Georgia Jr RB 1 5-9 215 17 Kenneth Murray Oklahoma Jr LB 1 6-2 234 18 Tee Higgins Clemson Jr WR 4 6-4 215 19 Jedrick Wills Jr. Alabama Jr OL 3 6-5 320 20 Yetur Gross-Matos Penn St. Jr EDGE 3 6-5 264 D’Andre Swift has a name that begins with “De” (phonetically anyway) and has an unnecessary apostrophe. I say take him if you can. He is going to be good.
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No. You don't quit on Baker yet. You've seen the potential. You just get a competent staff around him
Or you push Baker with some real competition. I think he came into this season a little complacent. It was his first one in years where he did to have to fight for the starting job.
Plus one of the reasons I'd pull that trigger is that regardless of which QB won the job, I feel that at minimum I'd recover a 2021 1st-round pick when I traded the runner-up.
As of typing this, Burrow might be the best 'pro ready' looking QB I've seen since Luck. Kid has it all.
Agree... he's my new, "Best since Luck" as well. That's why it's easy to pull that trigger.
Or you push Baker with some real competition. I think he came into this season a little complacent. It was his first one in years where he did to have to fight for the starting job.
Plus one of the reasons I'd pull that trigger is that regardless of which QB won the job, I feel that at minimum I'd recover a 2021 1st-round pick when I traded the runner-up.
Agree... he's my new, "Best since Luck" as well. That's why it's easy to pull that trigger.
Before a couple hours ago, I hadn't gone back to watch a game of Joe's with fresh eyes... but it's hard to not love what you see from him. LOVE. Well beyond more so than what many did with Baker pre-draft. JB's work pre-snap, even with something simple like a dummy count to see who declares, is more advanced than where Baker showed in college. (And at times, shows now)
Hard to not be impressed by a great deal of his tape. So to answer your question, were a team to offer me a 1st for Baker and I was Dorsey in a position to nab Burrow? Yes, I'd pull that trigger.
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