AUG 7 Friday's Browns Camp - Twitter Highlights
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@shepwrite said:
Yes, you can teach a guy to catch a football better. Absolutely. Ask any WR coach.Are there guys who will never catch the ball consistently enough, no matter how hard they try? Definitely.
Eyes, focus, and hand placement are huge. There are tons of drills and the correction of simple bad habits can be huge. A lot of it is simply repetition, practicing the new techniques over and over.
What you can't do is teach a guy to be 6'2", 225, run a sub 4.4 40, and jump 40". That's some seriously rare shit. It's worth the effort.
My comments about not teaching him to catch were mis-worded by me, because I meant his lack of focus and consistency worries me. He came from being quote sloppy and lazy to the pros. Can he learn and get better? Yes. Can he contribute this season on ST's? Maybe.
I just do not have a good feeling about this guy.
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Is there a problem with Mack?
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According to the OBR, Mack was getting pushed around by Ahtyba Rubin & Shaun Smith today.
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Is there any info on Kaluka Maiava. Just curious to see how he is adjusting to the NFL.
Is there any info on Kaluka Maiava. Just curious to see how he is adjusting to the NFL.
He got a sack during one of the scrimmages yesterday. Otherwise, I didn't notice him much, though he did look bigger than I expected - he's got some nice guns.
On the other hand, Bo Ruud (#43) looks tiny.
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Friday, August 7, 2009
Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Friday 8/7 8:45 AM Practice
Written by Daniel Wolf
After yesterday's bad quarterback play, today's article is focusing mostly on the quarterback battle, which is going to make a lot of people happy (or sad).
Before we get to the quarterbacks, there are a few quick things worth mentioning that took place during practice drills.
The most notable was with the special teams. They were practicing their onside kicks and what was strange is that punter Dave Zastudil and kicker Phil Dawson were lined up near the kickoff tee like they were both going to kick the ball.
First Zastudil would run up to the ball, but intentionally miss the ball, and then Dawson would be right there behind him actually kicking the ball in the other direction.
It's great to see a little trickery during camp!
Also, linebacker Alex Hall got to the quarterbacks three times for sacks, Rogers had two, and rookie linebacker David Veikune got another sack today just to name a few.
Rookie running back James Davis had yet another long play of over 25 yards. It seems that every practice, Davis has been able to break a long gain. He caught a short screen pass from backup quarterback Brett Ratliff and took it about 35 yards down the field showing off his speed and elusiveness once again.
Two other players to highlight were tight ends Steve Heiden and Robert Royal who both caught three to four passes each in practice.
During a wide receiver versus defensive back one-on-one drill, cornerback Eric Wright was covering receiver Braylon Edwards, and Wright got the better of Edwards with some really tight coverage and the ball was incomplete.
Immediately, after the play, Wright turned to the crowd and asked, "I don't get any cheers for that?"
The crowd then gave him a round of applause (and a few laughs) for his great coverage against Edwards.
The final mention has to go to the pass rush drill where one pass rusher would line up against an offensive lineman and Shaun Rogers smoked his opposition twice along with C.J. Mosley and Hall beat their guys to get to the quarterback as well.
Now to the good stuff.
There were many different scrimmages today, all of them were a different type of situation.
The first was a 11-on-11 starting at second and long.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 12 0 0 1 (Leggett)
Anderson... 2 3 15 0 0 1 (Cribbs)
Note on drill: Not too much happen in this drill as you can see by the stats.
Next was a six on eight drill that had a quarterback with four receivers and a running back against eight total defensive backs and linebackers. No lineman were used in this scenario.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 68 0 0 0
Anderson... 4 6 33 0 0 0
Note on drill: Remember there was no pressure on the quarterbacks in this drill since even the linebackers were dropping back into coverage.
Then the team went back into the 11-on-11 scrimmage with a focus on short, possession passes.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 3 5 12 0 0 0
Anderson... 7 9 71 0 0 2 (Edwards, Steptoe)
Note on drill: Quinn and rookie center Alex Mack fumbled a snap and therefore both had to run a lap which gave Anderson some extra reps. Linebacker Kamerion Wimbley showed good pressure on the quarterbacks several times during this drill. Hall sacked both Quinn and Anderson. Also, Josh Cribbs lined up in the backfield with Anderson and took a direct snap which he was looking to pass the ball, but the defense read it perfect and sacked him behind the line of scrimmage.
Next up were more 11-on-11 drills but from inside the offenses own five yard line.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 43 0 0 0
Anderson... 0 2 0 0 0 0
Note on drill: During Anderson's reps the offense called more running plays than during Quinn's reps. Offensive lineman Eric Steinbach, Floyd Womack and Isaac Sowells all had to run laps due to false starts.
Now the offense had to take the ball from the opposing 40 yard line and score with only 11 seconds left on the clock. (Another 11-on-11 drill)
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 5 0 0 0
Anderson... 2 4 17 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn did have a 10 yard scramble, but Dawson only made one of three field goals that were in the range of 45-52 yards.
Finally, the last 11-on-11 was from the offenses own 20 yard line with 1:48 left on the clock.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 6 10 41 0 0 0
Anderson... 3 5 42 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn definitely moved the ball better than Anderson on this particular drill, but both quarterbacks could not get a score and they were each sacked once by linebacker David Bowens and Veikune.
Overall, today's quarterback play was much improved over Thursday's, but Quinn is still holding onto the ball for way too long and he really needs to make better (and quicker) decisions on where to throw it. He still isn't taking any chances down the field and would rather settle for a short pass to a tight end or running back.
On the other hand, Anderson showed good signs of reading the defense today, but he still misses on many short passes because he is just gunning the ball too hard to the receivers.
Friday, August 7, 2009
Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Friday 8/7 8:45 AM Practice
Written by Daniel Wolf
Now to the good stuff.
There were many different scrimmages today, all of them were a different type of situation.
The first was a 11-on-11 starting at second and long.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 12 0 0 1 (Leggett)
Anderson... 2 3 15 0 0 1 (Cribbs)
Note on drill: Not too much happen in this drill as you can see by the stats.
Next was a six on eight drill that had a quarterback with four receivers and a running back against eight total defensive backs and linebackers. No lineman were used in this scenario.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 68 0 0 0
Anderson... 4 6 33 0 0 0
Note on drill: Remember there was no pressure on the quarterbacks in this drill since even the linebackers were dropping back into coverage.
Then the team went back into the 11-on-11 scrimmage with a focus on short, possession passes.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 3 5 12 0 0 0
Anderson... 7 9 71 0 0 2 (Edwards, Steptoe)
Note on drill: Quinn and rookie center Alex Mack fumbled a snap and therefore both had to run a lap which gave Anderson some extra reps. Linebacker Kamerion Wimbley showed good pressure on the quarterbacks several times during this drill. Hall sacked both Quinn and Anderson. Also, Josh Cribbs lined up in the backfield with Anderson and took a direct snap which he was looking to pass the ball, but the defense read it perfect and sacked him behind the line of scrimmage.
Next up were more 11-on-11 drills but from inside the offenses own five yard line.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 43 0 0 0
Anderson... 0 2 0 0 0 0
Note on drill: During Anderson's reps the offense called more running plays than during Quinn's reps. Offensive lineman Eric Steinbach, Floyd Womack and Isaac Sowells all had to run laps due to false starts.
Now the offense had to take the ball from the opposing 40 yard line and score with only 11 seconds left on the clock. (Another 11-on-11 drill)
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 5 0 0 0
Anderson... 2 4 17 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn did have a 10 yard scramble, but Dawson only made one of three field goals that were in the range of 45-52 yards.
Finally, the last 11-on-11 was from the offenses own 20 yard line with 1:48 left on the clock.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 6 10 41 0 0 0
Anderson... 3 5 42 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn definitely moved the ball better than Anderson on this particular drill, but both quarterbacks could not get a score and they were each sacked once by linebacker David Bowens and Veikune.
Overall, today's quarterback play was much improved over Thursday's, but Quinn is still holding onto the ball for way too long and he really needs to make better (and quicker) decisions on where to throw it. He still isn't taking any chances down the field and would rather settle for a short pass to a tight end or running back.
On the other hand, Anderson showed good signs of reading the defense today, but he still misses on many short passes because he is just gunning the ball too hard to the receivers.
OK, this thing sure feels like a tie to this point. Let's see what happens in 8 days.
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Friday, August 7, 2009
Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Friday 8/7 8:45 AM Practice
Written by Daniel Wolf
After yesterday's bad quarterback play, today's article is focusing mostly on the quarterback battle, which is going to make a lot of people happy (or sad).
Before we get to the quarterbacks, there are a few quick things worth mentioning that took place during practice drills.
The most notable was with the special teams. They were practicing their onside kicks and what was strange is that punter Dave Zastudil and kicker Phil Dawson were lined up near the kickoff tee like they were both going to kick the ball.
First Zastudil would run up to the ball, but intentionally miss the ball, and then Dawson would be right there behind him actually kicking the ball in the other direction.
It's great to see a little trickery during camp!
Also, linebacker Alex Hall got to the quarterbacks three times for sacks, Rogers had two, and rookie linebacker David Veikune got another sack today just to name a few.
Rookie running back James Davis had yet another long play of over 25 yards. It seems that every practice, Davis has been able to break a long gain. He caught a short screen pass from backup quarterback Brett Ratliff and took it about 35 yards down the field showing off his speed and elusiveness once again.
Two other players to highlight were tight ends Steve Heiden and Robert Royal who both caught three to four passes each in practice.
During a wide receiver versus defensive back one-on-one drill, cornerback Eric Wright was covering receiver Braylon Edwards, and Wright got the better of Edwards with some really tight coverage and the ball was incomplete.
Immediately, after the play, Wright turned to the crowd and asked, "I don't get any cheers for that?"
The crowd then gave him a round of applause (and a few laughs) for his great coverage against Edwards.
The final mention has to go to the pass rush drill where one pass rusher would line up against an offensive lineman and Shaun Rogers smoked his opposition twice along with C.J. Mosley and Hall beat their guys to get to the quarterback as well.
Now to the good stuff.
There were many different scrimmages today, all of them were a different type of situation.
The first was a 11-on-11 starting at second and long.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 12 0 0 1 (Leggett)
Anderson... 2 3 15 0 0 1 (Cribbs)
Note on drill: Not too much happen in this drill as you can see by the stats.
Next was a six on eight drill that had a quarterback with four receivers and a running back against eight total defensive backs and linebackers. No lineman were used in this scenario.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 68 0 0 0
Anderson... 4 6 33 0 0 0
Note on drill: Remember there was no pressure on the quarterbacks in this drill since even the linebackers were dropping back into coverage.
Then the team went back into the 11-on-11 scrimmage with a focus on short, possession passes.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 3 5 12 0 0 0
Anderson... 7 9 71 0 0 2 (Edwards, Steptoe)
Note on drill: Quinn and rookie center Alex Mack fumbled a snap and therefore both had to run a lap which gave Anderson some extra reps. Linebacker Kamerion Wimbley showed good pressure on the quarterbacks several times during this drill. Hall sacked both Quinn and Anderson. Also, Josh Cribbs lined up in the backfield with Anderson and took a direct snap which he was looking to pass the ball, but the defense read it perfect and sacked him behind the line of scrimmage.
Next up were more 11-on-11 drills but from inside the offenses own five yard line.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 43 0 0 0
Anderson... 0 2 0 0 0 0
Note on drill: During Anderson's reps the offense called more running plays than during Quinn's reps. Offensive lineman Eric Steinbach, Floyd Womack and Isaac Sowells all had to run laps due to false starts.
Now the offense had to take the ball from the opposing 40 yard line and score with only 11 seconds left on the clock. (Another 11-on-11 drill)
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 5 0 0 0
Anderson... 2 4 17 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn did have a 10 yard scramble, but Dawson only made one of three field goals that were in the range of 45-52 yards.
Finally, the last 11-on-11 was from the offenses own 20 yard line with 1:48 left on the clock.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 6 10 41 0 0 0
Anderson... 3 5 42 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn definitely moved the ball better than Anderson on this particular drill, but both quarterbacks could not get a score and they were each sacked once by linebacker David Bowens and Veikune.
Overall, today's quarterback play was much improved over Thursday's, but Quinn is still holding onto the ball for way too long and he really needs to make better (and quicker) decisions on where to throw it. He still isn't taking any chances down the field and would rather settle for a short pass to a tight end or running back.
On the other hand, Anderson showed good signs of reading the defense today, but he still misses on many short passes because he is just gunning the ball too hard to the receivers.
Friday, August 7, 2009
Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Friday 8/7 8:45 AM Practice
Written by Daniel Wolf
After yesterday's bad quarterback play, today's article is focusing mostly on the quarterback battle, which is going to make a lot of people happy (or sad).
Before we get to the quarterbacks, there are a few quick things worth mentioning that took place during practice drills.
The most notable was with the special teams. They were practicing their onside kicks and what was strange is that punter Dave Zastudil and kicker Phil Dawson were lined up near the kickoff tee like they were both going to kick the ball.
First Zastudil would run up to the ball, but intentionally miss the ball, and then Dawson would be right there behind him actually kicking the ball in the other direction.
It's great to see a little trickery during camp!
Also, linebacker Alex Hall got to the quarterbacks three times for sacks, Rogers had two, and rookie linebacker David Veikune got another sack today just to name a few.
Rookie running back James Davis had yet another long play of over 25 yards. It seems that every practice, Davis has been able to break a long gain. He caught a short screen pass from backup quarterback Brett Ratliff and took it about 35 yards down the field showing off his speed and elusiveness once again.
Two other players to highlight were tight ends Steve Heiden and Robert Royal who both caught three to four passes each in practice.
During a wide receiver versus defensive back one-on-one drill, cornerback Eric Wright was covering receiver Braylon Edwards, and Wright got the better of Edwards with some really tight coverage and the ball was incomplete.
Immediately, after the play, Wright turned to the crowd and asked, "I don't get any cheers for that?"
The crowd then gave him a round of applause (and a few laughs) for his great coverage against Edwards.
The final mention has to go to the pass rush drill where one pass rusher would line up against an offensive lineman and Shaun Rogers smoked his opposition twice along with C.J. Mosley and Hall beat their guys to get to the quarterback as well.
Now to the good stuff.
There were many different scrimmages today, all of them were a different type of situation.
The first was a 11-on-11 starting at second and long.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 12 0 0 1 (Leggett)
Anderson... 2 3 15 0 0 1 (Cribbs)
Note on drill: Not too much happen in this drill as you can see by the stats.
Next was a six on eight drill that had a quarterback with four receivers and a running back against eight total defensive backs and linebackers. No lineman were used in this scenario.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 68 0 0 0
Anderson... 4 6 33 0 0 0
Note on drill: Remember there was no pressure on the quarterbacks in this drill since even the linebackers were dropping back into coverage.
Then the team went back into the 11-on-11 scrimmage with a focus on short, possession passes.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 3 5 12 0 0 0
Anderson... 7 9 71 0 0 2 (Edwards, Steptoe)
Note on drill: Quinn and rookie center Alex Mack fumbled a snap and therefore both had to run a lap which gave Anderson some extra reps. Linebacker Kamerion Wimbley showed good pressure on the quarterbacks several times during this drill. Hall sacked both Quinn and Anderson. Also, Josh Cribbs lined up in the backfield with Anderson and took a direct snap which he was looking to pass the ball, but the defense read it perfect and sacked him behind the line of scrimmage.
Next up were more 11-on-11 drills but from inside the offenses own five yard line.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 43 0 0 0
Anderson... 0 2 0 0 0 0
Note on drill: During Anderson's reps the offense called more running plays than during Quinn's reps. Offensive lineman Eric Steinbach, Floyd Womack and Isaac Sowells all had to run laps due to false starts.
Now the offense had to take the ball from the opposing 40 yard line and score with only 11 seconds left on the clock. (Another 11-on-11 drill)
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 5 0 0 0
Anderson... 2 4 17 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn did have a 10 yard scramble, but Dawson only made one of three field goals that were in the range of 45-52 yards.
Finally, the last 11-on-11 was from the offenses own 20 yard line with 1:48 left on the clock.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 6 10 41 0 0 0
Anderson... 3 5 42 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn definitely moved the ball better than Anderson on this particular drill, but both quarterbacks could not get a score and they were each sacked once by linebacker David Bowens and Veikune.
Overall, today's quarterback play was much improved over Thursday's, but Quinn is still holding onto the ball for way too long and he really needs to make better (and quicker) decisions on where to throw it. He still isn't taking any chances down the field and would rather settle for a short pass to a tight end or running back.
On the other hand, Anderson showed good signs of reading the defense today, but he still misses on many short passes because he is just gunning the ball too hard to the receivers.
Just out of curiosity Dan, do you have some official press credentials...or do the Browns require such a thing to attend their news conferences? Or can any Yabo present himself to them as a member of the press.
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Friday, August 7, 2009
Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Friday 8/7 8:45 AM Practice
Written by Daniel Wolf
After yesterday's bad quarterback play, today's article is focusing mostly on the quarterback battle, which is going to make a lot of people happy (or sad).
Before we get to the quarterbacks, there are a few quick things worth mentioning that took place during practice drills.
The most notable was with the special teams. They were practicing their onside kicks and what was strange is that punter Dave Zastudil and kicker Phil Dawson were lined up near the kickoff tee like they were both going to kick the ball.
First Zastudil would run up to the ball, but intentionally miss the ball, and then Dawson would be right there behind him actually kicking the ball in the other direction.
It's great to see a little trickery during camp!
Also, linebacker Alex Hall got to the quarterbacks three times for sacks, Rogers had two, and rookie linebacker David Veikune got another sack today just to name a few.
Rookie running back James Davis had yet another long play of over 25 yards. It seems that every practice, Davis has been able to break a long gain. He caught a short screen pass from backup quarterback Brett Ratliff and took it about 35 yards down the field showing off his speed and elusiveness once again.
Two other players to highlight were tight ends Steve Heiden and Robert Royal who both caught three to four passes each in practice.
During a wide receiver versus defensive back one-on-one drill, cornerback Eric Wright was covering receiver Braylon Edwards, and Wright got the better of Edwards with some really tight coverage and the ball was incomplete.
Immediately, after the play, Wright turned to the crowd and asked, "I don't get any cheers for that?"
The crowd then gave him a round of applause (and a few laughs) for his great coverage against Edwards.
The final mention has to go to the pass rush drill where one pass rusher would line up against an offensive lineman and Shaun Rogers smoked his opposition twice along with C.J. Mosley and Hall beat their guys to get to the quarterback as well.
Now to the good stuff.
There were many different scrimmages today, all of them were a different type of situation.
The first was a 11-on-11 starting at second and long.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 12 0 0 1 (Leggett)
Anderson... 2 3 15 0 0 1 (Cribbs)
Note on drill: Not too much happen in this drill as you can see by the stats.
Next was a six on eight drill that had a quarterback with four receivers and a running back against eight total defensive backs and linebackers. No lineman were used in this scenario.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 68 0 0 0
Anderson... 4 6 33 0 0 0
Note on drill: Remember there was no pressure on the quarterbacks in this drill since even the linebackers were dropping back into coverage.
Then the team went back into the 11-on-11 scrimmage with a focus on short, possession passes.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 3 5 12 0 0 0
Anderson... 7 9 71 0 0 2 (Edwards, Steptoe)
Note on drill: Quinn and rookie center Alex Mack fumbled a snap and therefore both had to run a lap which gave Anderson some extra reps. Linebacker Kamerion Wimbley showed good pressure on the quarterbacks several times during this drill. Hall sacked both Quinn and Anderson. Also, Josh Cribbs lined up in the backfield with Anderson and took a direct snap which he was looking to pass the ball, but the defense read it perfect and sacked him behind the line of scrimmage.
Next up were more 11-on-11 drills but from inside the offenses own five yard line.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 43 0 0 0
Anderson... 0 2 0 0 0 0
Note on drill: During Anderson's reps the offense called more running plays than during Quinn's reps. Offensive lineman Eric Steinbach, Floyd Womack and Isaac Sowells all had to run laps due to false starts.
Now the offense had to take the ball from the opposing 40 yard line and score with only 11 seconds left on the clock. (Another 11-on-11 drill)
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 5 0 0 0
Anderson... 2 4 17 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn did have a 10 yard scramble, but Dawson only made one of three field goals that were in the range of 45-52 yards.
Finally, the last 11-on-11 was from the offenses own 20 yard line with 1:48 left on the clock.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 6 10 41 0 0 0
Anderson... 3 5 42 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn definitely moved the ball better than Anderson on this particular drill, but both quarterbacks could not get a score and they were each sacked once by linebacker David Bowens and Veikune.
Overall, today's quarterback play was much improved over Thursday's, but Quinn is still holding onto the ball for way too long and he really needs to make better (and quicker) decisions on where to throw it. He still isn't taking any chances down the field and would rather settle for a short pass to a tight end or running back.
On the other hand, Anderson showed good signs of reading the defense today, but he still misses on many short passes because he is just gunning the ball too hard to the receivers.
Just out of curiosity Dan, do you have some official press credentials...or do the Browns require such a thing to attend their news conferences? Or can any Yabo present himself to them as a member of the press.
Just out of curiosity Dan, do you have some official press credentials...or do the Browns require such a thing to attend their news conferences? Or can any Yabo present himself to them as a member of the press.
By the way, don't get me wrong. I don't think you are a Yabo. This forum is clearly a legitimate media outlet, and you do a great job. I just wondered if the Browns issued credentials....in order to keep the riffer-raffer out?
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Friday, August 7, 2009
Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Friday 8/7 8:45 AM Practice
Written by Daniel Wolf
After yesterday's bad quarterback play, today's article is focusing mostly on the quarterback battle, which is going to make a lot of people happy (or sad).
Before we get to the quarterbacks, there are a few quick things worth mentioning that took place during practice drills.
The most notable was with the special teams. They were practicing their onside kicks and what was strange is that punter Dave Zastudil and kicker Phil Dawson were lined up near the kickoff tee like they were both going to kick the ball.
First Zastudil would run up to the ball, but intentionally miss the ball, and then Dawson would be right there behind him actually kicking the ball in the other direction.
It's great to see a little trickery during camp!
Also, linebacker Alex Hall got to the quarterbacks three times for sacks, Rogers had two, and rookie linebacker David Veikune got another sack today just to name a few.
Rookie running back James Davis had yet another long play of over 25 yards. It seems that every practice, Davis has been able to break a long gain. He caught a short screen pass from backup quarterback Brett Ratliff and took it about 35 yards down the field showing off his speed and elusiveness once again.
Two other players to highlight were tight ends Steve Heiden and Robert Royal who both caught three to four passes each in practice.
During a wide receiver versus defensive back one-on-one drill, cornerback Eric Wright was covering receiver Braylon Edwards, and Wright got the better of Edwards with some really tight coverage and the ball was incomplete.
Immediately, after the play, Wright turned to the crowd and asked, "I don't get any cheers for that?"
The crowd then gave him a round of applause (and a few laughs) for his great coverage against Edwards.
The final mention has to go to the pass rush drill where one pass rusher would line up against an offensive lineman and Shaun Rogers smoked his opposition twice along with C.J. Mosley and Hall beat their guys to get to the quarterback as well.
Now to the good stuff.
There were many different scrimmages today, all of them were a different type of situation.
The first was a 11-on-11 starting at second and long.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 12 0 0 1 (Leggett)
Anderson... 2 3 15 0 0 1 (Cribbs)
Note on drill: Not too much happen in this drill as you can see by the stats.
Next was a six on eight drill that had a quarterback with four receivers and a running back against eight total defensive backs and linebackers. No lineman were used in this scenario.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 68 0 0 0
Anderson... 4 6 33 0 0 0
Note on drill: Remember there was no pressure on the quarterbacks in this drill since even the linebackers were dropping back into coverage.
Then the team went back into the 11-on-11 scrimmage with a focus on short, possession passes.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 3 5 12 0 0 0
Anderson... 7 9 71 0 0 2 (Edwards, Steptoe)
Note on drill: Quinn and rookie center Alex Mack fumbled a snap and therefore both had to run a lap which gave Anderson some extra reps. Linebacker Kamerion Wimbley showed good pressure on the quarterbacks several times during this drill. Hall sacked both Quinn and Anderson. Also, Josh Cribbs lined up in the backfield with Anderson and took a direct snap which he was looking to pass the ball, but the defense read it perfect and sacked him behind the line of scrimmage.
Next up were more 11-on-11 drills but from inside the offenses own five yard line.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped Passes
Quinn........ 4 5 43 0 0 0
Anderson... 0 2 0 0 0 0
Note on drill: During Anderson's reps the offense called more running plays than during Quinn's reps. Offensive lineman Eric Steinbach, Floyd Womack and Isaac Sowells all had to run laps due to false starts.
Now the offense had to take the ball from the opposing 40 yard line and score with only 11 seconds left on the clock. (Another 11-on-11 drill)
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 1 2 5 0 0 0
Anderson... 2 4 17 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn did have a 10 yard scramble, but Dawson only made one of three field goals that were in the range of 45-52 yards.
Finally, the last 11-on-11 was from the offenses own 20 yard line with 1:48 left on the clock.
Comp. Att. Yards TD INT Dropped passes
Quinn........ 6 10 41 0 0 0
Anderson... 3 5 42 0 0 0
Note on drill: Quinn definitely moved the ball better than Anderson on this particular drill, but both quarterbacks could not get a score and they were each sacked once by linebacker David Bowens and Veikune.
Overall, today's quarterback play was much improved over Thursday's, but Quinn is still holding onto the ball for way too long and he really needs to make better (and quicker) decisions on where to throw it. He still isn't taking any chances down the field and would rather settle for a short pass to a tight end or running back.
On the other hand, Anderson showed good signs of reading the defense today, but he still misses on many short passes because he is just gunning the ball too hard to the receivers.
Just out of curiosity Dan, do you have some official press credentials...or do the Browns require such a thing to attend their news conferences? Or can any Yabo present himself to them as a member of the press.
Just out of curiosity Dan, do you have some official press credentials...or do the Browns require such a thing to attend their news conferences? Or can any Yabo present himself to them as a member of the press.
I didn't write the article (his name is coincidentally Dan too). I just snagged it off of DawgScooper's site. I'm a gatherer not a creator.
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Just out of curiosity Dan, do you have some official press credentials...or do the Browns require such a thing to attend their news conferences? Or can any Yabo present himself to them as a member of the press.
I didn't write the article (his name is coincidentally Dan too). I just snagged it off of DawgScooper's site. I'm a gatherer not a creator.
I didn't write the article (his name is coincidentally Dan too). I just snagged it off of DawgScooper's site. I'm a gatherer not a creator.
OK, but, do you know the answer?
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Sounds like things are starting to heat up, more positive than negative....
Like what I'm hearing about MoMass---except--- he caught a 14 yarder on a 3rd and 16----punt... I've seen too much of this with the new Browns, catch a ball for 5 yards when you need 7... Teach those receivers to reach the chains.....
Seems the defense is pretty active... Blitzing from different angles by a multiple of players.... Hope to hell our D is agressive rather than the not playing to lose defense of yesteryear.....
Peace
T.Dawg
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@shepwrite said:
Weird. I read that report and thought it sounded like they were pretty even, slight edge to Quinn.Ditto
Quinn ran 11 plays to Anderson's 6 in the 2 min drill. Kept drives alive with two 3d down completions and one 4th down completion. That's quite a diff.
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Mack and Robiskie have been disappointments so far, but like I like to say, it is only camp.
Mack, especially had the longer road to go, but I think he will be ready by September. "Robo" is looking sorta looking like a stiff.
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Mack and Robiskie have been disappointments so far, but like I like to say, it is only camp.
Mack, especially had the longer road to go, but I think he will be ready by September. "Robo" is looking sorta looking like a stiff.
Mack and Robiskie have been disappointments so far, but like I like to say, it is only camp.
Mack, especially had the longer road to go, but I think he will be ready by September. "Robo" is looking sorta looking like a stiff.
You have 36 posts and I don't think one of them has been upbeat. All reports and eyewitness accounts (including my own) are that MM and Robocop are doing great so far, especially for rookies.
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TheOBR Jerome Henderson working DB's hard in individual coverage, technique drills.
less than a minute ago from TweetDeck
TheOBR Little change from usual practice sessions... physical in team drills right away. Eric Wright plants Madsen on first play.
3 minutes ago from TweetDeck
TheOBR Working in coverage drills, DA hit Massaquoi... makes an amazing one-handed catch falling to goal line.
6 minutes ago from TweetDeck
TheOBR Blocking drills - Rogers moves sled with bobcat attached back a foot.
11 minutes ago from TweetDeck
TheOBR DA stays shaky in team drills. Cribbs drops low pass around goal line.
13 minutes ago from TweetDeck
TheOBR Massaquoi bobbles and then brings in red zone TD reception from Quinn
19 minutes ago from web
TheOBR Quinn throws TD pass to Braylon Edwards on a slant
24 minutes ago from web
TheOBR At start of team drills, Brady Quinn was hot and Derek Anderson shaky
29 minutes ago from web
TheOBR Bowens, Heiden, Patten riding stationary bikes and team warms of for practice.
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Great to hear that Massaquoi's making tough catches. That was one of my major concerns about him.
Hopefully, all of his bobbles will end just as well as his last one.
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Mack and Robiskie have been disappointments so far, but like I like to say, it is only camp.
Mack, especially had the longer road to go, but I think he will be ready by September. "Robo" is looking sorta looking like a stiff.
You have 36 posts and I don't think one of them has been upbeat. All reports and eyewitness accounts (including my own) are that MM and Robocop are doing great so far, especially for rookies.
You have 36 posts and I don't think one of them has been upbeat. All reports and eyewitness accounts (including my own) are that MM and Robocop are doing great so far, especially for rookies.
Oh come on. I have praised M just about everytime except for 1 day. The guy has been a surprise early in camp. Robiskie has been disappointing. Of course they are going to "up talk him". DA has had the same thing and Quinn recently about his "improved accuracy".
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Actutally, I thought that Robo had some good reports the first couple days... Haven't heard too much about him lately, though.
The only rookie who continuously has been disappointing me so far is Alex Mack. He's been running a lot of laps and doesnt seem anywhere near as impressive as many thought he would be.... Though with Fraley still good for now, he has time to develop.
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Actutally, I thought that Robo had some good reports the first couple days... Haven't heard too much about him lately, though.
The only rookie who continuously has been disappointing me so far is Alex Mack. He's been running a lot of laps and doesnt seem anywhere near as impressive as many thought he would be.... Though with Fraley still good for now, he has time to develop.
Actutally, I thought that Robo had some good reports the first couple days... Haven't heard too much about him lately, though.
The only rookie who continuously has been disappointing me so far is Alex Mack. He's been running a lot of laps and doesnt seem anywhere near as impressive as many thought he would be.... Though with Fraley still good for now, he has time to develop.
Thanks for the backup. Mack has been a disappointment. He simply seems a little overwhelmed by pro-ball right now.
Right now, Browns draft picks outside M and Davis are have been disappointing.
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@shepwrite said:
Whoa. Sounds like Quinn finally opened a session really hot.Sounds great, cant wait to watch the nfl replay next sunday.
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