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WEEK 16 - BROWNS and NFL injury report and BAL at CLE a 10 point underdog, 9.5 back to 10.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mjp28 said:

    Let's take a look at the current Super Bowl odds on December 18, 2019....... https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures

    ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)
    Team Odds
    Baltimore Ravens 9/4
    New Orleans Saints 4/1
    San Francisco 49ers 6/1
    New England Patriots 7/1
    Kansas City Chiefs 8/1
    Seattle Seahawks 10/1
    Green Bay Packers 14/1
    Minnesota Vikings 20/1
    Dallas Cowboys 30/1
    Buffalo Bills 40/1
    Houston Texans 40/1
    Philadelphia Eagles 60/1
    Pittsburgh Steelers 100/1
    Tennessee Titans 100/1
    Los Angeles Rams 1000/1
    Oakland Raiders 2000/1

    Neither Ravens nor Pats win. Nor 49ers.   Saints, Chiefs, Seahawks

    And as I understand,  Browns and Raiders have NOT  been eliminated...so why would there be odds on the Raiders, but not the Browns? 

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #5

    @the-gipper said:

    Neither Ravens nor Pats win. Nor 49ers.   Saints, Chiefs, Seahawks

    And as I understand,  Browns and Raiders have NOT  been eliminated...so why would there be odds on the Raiders, but not the Browns? 

    😁 Because the odds on the Browns are so long, no one in their right mind would put any money on it.  

    The GipperT mjp28M 2 Replies
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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @the-gipper said:

    Neither Ravens nor Pats win. Nor 49ers.   Saints, Chiefs, Seahawks

    And as I understand,  Browns and Raiders have NOT  been eliminated...so why would there be odds on the Raiders, but not the Browns? 

    😁 Because the odds on the Browns are so long, no one in their right mind would put any money on it.  

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #6

    @hoorta said:

    😁 Because the odds on the Browns are so long, no one in their right mind would put any money on it.  

    Yea, But, I think the Browns technically have a better percentage odds than the Raiders.   A scintalla of a percentage better?

    (or, is it just that the Raiders are now moving to Vegas, no matter what they are going to give them odds.?)

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on
    #7

    Over under how many passing attempts by Browns...

    Ill say 60.

    We will be playing catch up all game..

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #8

    Zombo said:

    10 points? Back up the truck on the Browns.

    Z

    The truck has been backed up on the Browns weeks ago. 

    Backed up, pulled forward, backed up on again. 

    😂
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @the-gipper said:

    Neither Ravens nor Pats win. Nor 49ers.   Saints, Chiefs, Seahawks

    And as I understand,  Browns and Raiders have NOT  been eliminated...so why would there be odds on the Raiders, but not the Browns? 

    😁 Because the odds on the Browns are so long, no one in their right mind would put any money on it.  

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #9

    @hoorta said:

    😁 Because the odds on the Browns are so long, no one in their right mind would put any money on it.  

    Those are the betting odds not any mathematical odds on making the playoffs, they can be similar at times but not the same.

    And yes the BROWNS may just be not published by any sportsbooks.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #10

    Back to betting odds December 18, 2019.  https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures

    ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP (1/19/20)
    Team Odds
    Baltimore Ravens 2/3
    Kansas City Chiefs 7/2
    New England Patriots 7/2
    Buffalo Bills 20/1
    Houston Texans 20/1
    Pittsburgh Steelers 50/1
    Tennessee Titans 50/1
    Oakland Raiders 1000/1
     
    ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP (1/19/20)
    Team Odds
    New Orleans Saints 7/4
    San Francisco 49ers 12/5
    Seattle Seahawks 4/1
    Green Bay Packers 7/1
    Minnesota Vikings 9/1
    Dallas Cowboys 15/1
    Philadelphia Eagles 30/1
    Los Angeles Rams 500/1

    How to Bet on NFL Futures....it works something like this......

    Who’s going to win the Super Bowl? One of the most popular questions often asked by anybody and everybody that bets on NFL Futures, especially online bettors from the United States. Answering that question isn’t easy but placing wagers on NFL Future odds can be done on “Any Given Sunday” and every other day too. Put simply, the Futures market for the NFL is always open. The opening market is set by oddsmakers after the following season has ended in February, sometimes even while the current season hasn’t been completed yet in late January. For the most part, the initial betting lines are mirrored based on what the current perception of the team is after the latest season and that’s where the value can be had.

    How do I bet on the Super Bowl?

    We know that you can bet on the Super Bowl and all of NFL Futures at any time of the year, but what’s the process. The future wager or the “Odds to Win” bet on the Super Bowl is correctly selecting a team to win an event that takes place at a later time. A bettor will have his wagered money tied up until there is an outcome and bettors will receive fixed odds when they place the wager. In the case of the Super Bowl, you’re not a winner or loser until you see zeros on the clock in the final game.

    Most sportsbooks offer different ways to read to Super Bowl Odds. In the fractional NFL Futures Odds format below, you simply take the odds and multiply by the amount wagered.

    Ex. Green Bay (8/1) to win the Super Bowl

    The Packers are listed as an 8/1 betting choice to win the Super Bowl. If you wager $100 on Green Bay to win the NFC and they capture the championship, then you would win $800 (8 ÷ 1 x 100). Your online betting account would then credit your account $900, which includes your win and stake ($100).

    The American Format would see Green Bay listed at +800 and for the Decimal Format, the Packers would be 9.00.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #11

    I will be coming into Las Vegas on Super Bowl Sunday. 

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #12

    Couple things I had not realized about the Ravens...

    1. They last lost in Week 4 to us.
    2. In addition to trading for Marcus Peters they made 5 other moves on the D-side...

    The defense that Baltimore will bring to Cleveland on Sunday looks far different than what the Browns saw in September. Within days of losing to Cleveland, the Ravens signed two inside linebackers who have helped stabilize the run defense – Josh Bynes and L.J. Fort. They have also added three physical defensive linemen since the Cleveland game – Jihad Ward, Domata Peko and Justin Ellis. Trading for Pro Bowl cornerback Marcus Peters in October, along with the return of cornerback Jimmy Smith from an early-season knee injury, has given Baltimore the league’s deepest secondary.

    The Ravens have the NFL’s top-ranked defense since Week 4, and now come in at No. 6 in total defense. After that Cleveland game, they were ranked No. 27.

    https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/ravens-look-to-avenge-september-loss-to-browns

    Oh well... no one said it'd be easy...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #13

    THURSDAY 3 PM, read 'em and weep ?

    Cleveland Browns, 11 ?
     
    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Olivier Vernon DE Dec 19 Questionable Vernon (knee) was limited at Wednesday's practice, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
    Sheldon Richardson DT Dec 18 Questionable Richardson (back) didn't participate in Wednesday's practice, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
    Jarvis Landry WR Dec 18 Questionable Landry (hip) was limited at practice Wednesday, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
    Odell Beckham Jr. WR Dec 18 Questionable Beckham (groin) was limited at practice Wednesday, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
    Denzel Ward CB Dec 18 Questionable  
    Dontrell Hilliard RB Dec 18 Questionable  
    Chris Hubbard OT Dec 18 Questionable  
    Tae Davis LB Dec 18 Questionable  
    Kendall Lamm OT Dec 18 Questionable Lamm (knee) won't participate in Wednesday's practice, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
    JC Tretter C Dec 18 Questionable Tretter (knee) won't practice Wednesday, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
    Eric Murray S Dec 17 Questionable
     
    Baltimore Ravens,  one? Only one goddam player ?  (In my Harry Doyle voice. 😆)
     
    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Ronnie Stanley OT Dec 19 Questionable Stanley (concussion) was a full practice participant Wednesday, Jonas Shaffer of The Baltimore Sun reports.
    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • mjp28M mjp28

    Let's take a look at the current Super Bowl odds on December 18, 2019....... https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures

    ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)
    Team Odds
    Baltimore Ravens 9/4
    New Orleans Saints 4/1
    San Francisco 49ers 6/1
    New England Patriots 7/1
    Kansas City Chiefs 8/1
    Seattle Seahawks 10/1
    Green Bay Packers 14/1
    Minnesota Vikings 20/1
    Dallas Cowboys 30/1
    Buffalo Bills 40/1
    Houston Texans 40/1
    Philadelphia Eagles 60/1
    Pittsburgh Steelers 100/1
    Tennessee Titans 100/1
    Los Angeles Rams 1000/1
    Oakland Raiders 2000/1
    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #14

    @mjp28 said:

    Let's take a look at the current Super Bowl odds on December 18, 2019....... https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures

    ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)
    Team Odds
    Baltimore Ravens 9/4
    New Orleans Saints 4/1
    San Francisco 49ers 6/1
    New England Patriots 7/1
    Kansas City Chiefs 8/1
    Seattle Seahawks 10/1
    Green Bay Packers 14/1
    Minnesota Vikings 20/1
    Dallas Cowboys 30/1
    Buffalo Bills 40/1
    Houston Texans 40/1
    Philadelphia Eagles 60/1
    Pittsburgh Steelers 100/1
    Tennessee Titans 100/1
    Los Angeles Rams 1000/1
    Oakland Raiders 2000/1

    Just for comparison and maybe you want to stay in the state of Ohio.......

    College Football Futures Betting Lines

    		 

    https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/futures


     
    ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (1/6/20)
    Team Odds
    LSU Tigers 7/5
    Clemson Tigers 2/1
    Ohio State Buckeyes 3/1
    Oklahoma Sooners 16/1
    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I will be coming into Las Vegas on Super Bowl Sunday. 

    I Icecube wrote on
    #15

    @the-gipper said:

    I will be coming into Las Vegas on Super Bowl Sunday. 

    Done that. It is a great time to be in LV, and I'm not a LV guys, been there so many times. 

  • I Icecube

    @the-gipper said:

    I will be coming into Las Vegas on Super Bowl Sunday. 

    Done that. It is a great time to be in LV, and I'm not a LV guys, been there so many times. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #16

    @icecube said:

    Done that. It is a great time to be in LV, and I'm not a LV guys, been there so many times. 

    I am actually traveling that day from Sedona to LV....so I don't know if I will be at my resort by the time the game starts.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @icecube said:

    Done that. It is a great time to be in LV, and I'm not a LV guys, been there so many times. 

    I am actually traveling that day from Sedona to LV....so I don't know if I will be at my resort by the time the game starts.

    I Icecube wrote on
    #17

    @the-gipper said:

    I am actually traveling that day from Sedona to LV....so I don't know if I will be at my resort by the time the game starts.

    Doesn't matter, you'll still be there for the festivities. It's the most happening place to be SB weekend besides the actual SB city. Probably better in some ways. 

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #18

    FRIDAY 10 AM, the only new injury news, they will need this guy and a few others.

    Cleveland Browns
     
    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Olivier Vernon DE Dec 20 Questionable Vernon (knee) was a limited participant for Thursday's practice.
    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
    The GipperT Tour2maT 2 Replies
  • mjp28M mjp28

    FRIDAY 10 AM, the only new injury news, they will need this guy and a few others.

    Cleveland Browns
     
    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Olivier Vernon DE Dec 20 Questionable Vernon (knee) was a limited participant for Thursday's practice.
    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #19

    @mjp28 said:

    FRIDAY 10 AM, the only new injury news, they will need this guy and a few others.

    Cleveland Browns
     
    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Olivier Vernon DE Dec 20 Questionable Vernon (knee) was a limited participant for Thursday's practice.

    Per what I just heard a while ago on the radio, the RFs do not have a single person listed on their injury list.

    Hopefully that will not be the case after the game.

  • mjp28M mjp28

    FRIDAY 10 AM, the only new injury news, they will need this guy and a few others.

    Cleveland Browns
     
    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Olivier Vernon DE Dec 20 Questionable Vernon (knee) was a limited participant for Thursday's practice.
    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #20

    @mjp28 said:

    FRIDAY 10 AM, the only new injury news, they will need this guy and a few others.

    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Olivier Vernon DE Dec 20 Questionable Vernon (knee) was a limited participant for Thursday's practice.

    Olivier Vernon, a gametime decision vs. Ravens, says he didn’t have a setback

    BEREA, Ohio -- Browns defensive end Olivier Vernon tried to get back on the field against the Steelers on Dec. 1. He said it was his choice to try and play and, even though he only managed 10 snaps and hasn’t played since, didn’t have a setback.

    Vernon is officially listed as questionable and said it all depends how he feels Sunday morning.

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/olivier-vernon-a-gametime-decision-vs-ravens-says-he-didnt-have-a-setback-and-everything-else-we-learned-about-the-browns-on-friday.html

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #21

    SATURDAY 11:30 AM, and yes three NFL games today starting at 1 pm on the NFL Net.

    Cleveland Browns
     
    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Eric Murray S Dec 20 Questionable Murray (knee) is questionable for Sunday's game against Baltimore, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
    Kendall Lamm OT Dec 20 Questionable Lamm (knee) is listed as questionable for Sunday's game against the Ravens, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
    Dontrell Hilliard RB Dec 20 Questionable Hilliard has a neck injury and is questionable for Sunday's game versus the Ravens, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
    Olivier Vernon DE Dec 20 Questionable Vernon (knee) is questionable for Sunday's game against the Ravens, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
    Sheldon Richardson DT Dec 20 Questionable Richardson (back) is questionable for Sunday's game against the Ravens, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
    JC Tretter C Dec 18 Questionable Tretter (knee) won't practice Wednesday, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
     
    Baltimore Ravens
     
    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Chris Board LB Dec 20 Questionable Board (concussion) is expected to play Sunday, Jamison Hensley of ESPN.com reports.
    Ronnie Stanley OT Dec 20 Questionable Stanley (concussion) is expected to suit up Sunday against the Browns, Jamison Hensley of ESPN.com reports.
    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #22

    SUNDAY NOON, may the force be with the BROWNS.....or cheat like hell and beat up the blackbirds.

    Cleveland Browns
     
    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Taywan Taylor WR Dec 22 Out  
    J.T. Hassell S Dec 22 Out  
    Kendall Lamm OT Dec 22 Out  
    Drew Forbes OT Dec 22 Out  
    Pharaoh Brown TE Dec 22 Out  
    Sheldon Richardson DT Dec 22 Questionable Richardson (back) is likely to play in the team's Week 16 contest against Baltimore, Josina Anderson of ESPN reports.
    Olivier Vernon DE Dec 22 Questionable Vernon (knee) is expected to miss the Browns' Week 16 matchup against the Ravens, Josina Anderson of ESPN reports.
    Eric Murray S Dec 20 Questionable Murray (knee) is questionable for Sunday's game against Baltimore, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
    Dontrell Hilliard RB Dec 20 Questionable Hilliard has a neck injury and is questionable for Sunday's game versus the Ravens, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
    JC Tretter C Dec 18 Questionable Tretter (knee) won't practice Wednesday, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
     
    Baltimore Ravens
     
    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
    Jaleel Scott WR Dec 22 Out  
    Ben Powers G Dec 22 Out  
    Trace McSorley QB Dec 22 Out  
    Iman Marshall CB Dec 22 Out  
    Justin Ellis DT Dec 22 Out  
    Parker Ehinger G Dec 22 Out  
    Anthony Averett CB Dec 22 Out
    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • ATOMA ATOM wrote on
    #23

    the o/u looks to be a good bet 

    im betting the over

  • ATOMA ATOM

    the o/u looks to be a good bet 

    im betting the over

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #24

    @atom said:

    the o/u looks to be a good bet 

    im betting the over

    I just checked it's still CLE +10 and 49, I'd go light on the CLE +10 and if the BROWNS show up at all more on the OVER 49 and hope for a fantastic finish.

    I'm a sucker for the overs in this pass happy football era.

    Oh and if you're interested OHIO STATE +2 and the OVER/UNDER 63.5.  Hmmmm, on that one.

    .......add, now LSU -13.5 and the O/U of 76 is kind of insane, remember 4 OU starters got kicked out of the game.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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