Happy Impeachment Day!
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more bullhockey.
Let's go back to actual definitions of words:
conservative[kənˈsərvədiv]ADJECTIVE-
averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values."they were very conservative in their outlook"synonyms:traditionalist · traditional · conventional · orthodox · stable · old-fashioned ·
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(in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.Often contrasted with liberal.synonyms:right-wing · reactionary · traditionalist · unprogressive · establishmentarian · blimpish · ultra-right · fundamentalist · alt-right · Tory · Republican · true blue
SO, advocating a redefinition of Real Marriage is not conservative. Advocating for NO WALL is not conservative - because you are refusing to stop illegal immigration at the expense of Americans who believe in American sovereignty, national security, and legit approved path to citizenship based on merit.
TRADITIONAL VALUES. does NOT condone the rampant murder of unborn and born children. Does not condone wild changes that sound good, but that will skyrocket our already unmanageable national debt, and/or send us to the international groups to depend on them for our energy over the globalists' "energy global warmging mass immigration global control" over everthing. Our Constitution demands freedom. DEMANDS our rights. Conservatism is not your liberal emotional leftwing outlooks.
Eight years of obaMao and eight years of Clinton, all we heard was "elections have consequences", "who cares about his private life", "who cares what he did before he was president" , "who cares what people LOSE their health insurance", "who cares if you don't want to be FINED for not having gov health insurance while your excellent private insurance goes away", "who cares if you can't keep your doctor"...and "WHO CARES ABOUT OUR NATIONAL DEBT" etc etc etc.
Not one criticism of your precious democrats, regardless of all the major scandals.But NOW, we get a non-leftist as president again, and now all of a sudden you are "concerned" about our national debt. That's nice, Real nice. Where does that "concern" go when you have your democrat president elected? Out the window, that's where. Tiam's list is his own personal interests - since when is Pres Trump's "whiny petulant child-like attitude" have to do with "conservatism" ?
Odd, liberal "conservatives" never had one complaint about eight years of of obaMao and eight years of clinton.
The left condones infanticide. that's obamao, see? The left favors sky high taxes on anyone who isn't on the poor edge of economic income (poor edge is their BASE).
GET THIS -
Obamao and al lthe rest of the left demand to allow millions of UNVETTED illegals to flood here from around the world, they refuse to put up a wall where we need it, they want to get rid of ICE altogether, they give big benefits to illegals - driver's licenses, they want to give them the VOTE (of course), welfare, cares, a place to live, etc etc etc etc.
Here's a clue about democrat "conservatives"
Conservatives demand FREEDOM. Read up on the damage done by unfrittered millions of illegals obamao and the left want coming here.
Then, read this:
That's right, the democrat, left-wing ..."conservatives" want that well educated, wonderful Christian family ordered out of our country and refused to let them come here to live.
So, thanks for visiting again to vent emotionally again - but until you can explain the above, up to "GET THIS"....
Real Conservatives stand hugely FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP because he isn't violating our core traditional beliefs.
He stands FOR not murdering unborn/born children, FOR OUR CONSTITUTION And BILL OF RIGHTS, FOR OUR SOVEREIGNTY, FOR OUR AMERICAN BUSINESSES, FOR FAMILIES HAVING JOBS, and on and on and on.
President Trump IS KEEPING HIS PROMISES (sometimes delayed by the left out of spite of us electing him PRESIDENT)...
and obaMao BROKE every promise he made.
yeah. show up here and bash Pres Trump, and all of us who wouldn't buy into your liberalism, and won't sing that worship obamao song.
and Have a Nice Day.
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Obama was worse than a liberal. He was a leftist.
What are you looking for in your candidate? A booming economy/record unemployment? Keeping us out of wars and not starting one? Securing better trade deals with Mexico/Canada/China? Bringing manufacturing back? Things along those lines perhaps?
I was going to edit my previous post- but since you're harping on the economy- Trump had better hope it doesn't go South (and it's WAY over due to do so) before the election- or he's one Donald "dead" Duck.
I was going to edit my previous post- but since you're harping on the economy- Trump had better hope it doesn't go South (and it's WAY over due to do so) before the election- or he's one Donald "dead" Duck.
Trump didn’t get elected president because he was the best candidate.
He got elected because wasn’t the worst candidate.
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He got elected because he spoke like a REAL AMERICAN, and not a globalist leftwing scumbucket sombeitch like obamao and the rest of his organized slime mafia.
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LOL He has to go....because his personality grates on your nerves? But he is doing great things as OUR REAL AMERICAN PRESIDENT?
Pres Trump HAS to be who he is, to hold up vs the left's attacks.
LOL, Fox News- "Fake News" to the other side. FWIW, I won't copy Tia's post- but there's a hell of a lot in it I totally agree with.
I can add the sham on fiscal responsibility. Concern about the ever growing National debt seems to have been swept under the rug. We can probably adequately defend this country spending far short of $750 billion plus on the military. The deficit spending growing in part because Trump gave his wealthy pals (and himself) a nice big tax cut.
So this is why he should be impeached?
Who in the fuck says Trump can do no wrong? I'm sure he's done plenty wrong. Trump University, his hairstyle is just wrong too. But in the midst of a soaring economy, low unemployment, and my 401K getting fat, I don't give a fuck who he fucked. Why do you?
I said nothing of the sort. You're grasping at straws- just pointing out the Republican duplicity of railing on Clinton for his little affair. But now our guys doing it, but we don't care. Because he wan't in office? LOL!!! I've said in a couple places the Democrats Impeachment vendetta is a waste of taxpayer time and money that's doomed to fail in the Senate. OK, they don't like him- taken a look at the opinion polls recently saying they have plenty of company? Not all of them are Democrats either. Trump's martyr complex isn't playing well in some quarters. He can call it a Witch Hunt- and exactly right, because some people happen to see him a a Witch. Warlock, more precisely.
Ag pointed it out- with the pre WWII German economy soaring- most of those folks back then thought Hitler was a pretty swell guy too. So as long as Trump's doing right by you- "I don't give a damn about anything else". Thanks for playing. Now go put your MAGA hat back on. I've already wasted too much time here playing with the inmates.
Just get it through your head- there's some REPUBLICANS out there- and we may be a minority- that are totally fed up with one Donald Trump.
LOL, Fox News- "Fake News" to the other side. FWIW, I won't copy Tia's post- but there's a hell of a lot in it I totally agree with.
I can add the sham on fiscal responsibility. Concern about the ever growing National debt seems to have been swept under the rug. We can probably adequately defend this country spending far short of $750 billion plus on the military. The deficit spending growing in part because Trump gave his wealthy pals (and himself) a nice big tax cut.
I said nothing of the sort. You're grasping at straws- just pointing out the Republican duplicity of railing on Clinton for his little affair. But now our guys doing it, but we don't care. Because he wan't in office? LOL!!! I've said in a couple places the Democrats Impeachment vendetta is a waste of taxpayer time and money that's doomed to fail in the Senate. OK, they don't like him- taken a look at the opinion polls recently saying they have plenty of company? Not all of them are Democrats either. Trump's martyr complex isn't playing well in some quarters. He can call it a Witch Hunt- and exactly right, because some people happen to see him a a Witch. Warlock, more precisely.
Ag pointed it out- with the pre WWII German economy soaring- most of those folks back then thought Hitler was a pretty swell guy too. So as long as Trump's doing right by you- "I don't give a damn about anything else". Thanks for playing. Now go put your MAGA hat back on. I've already wasted too much time here playing with the inmates.
Just get it through your head- there's some REPUBLICANS out there- and we may be a minority- that are totally fed up with one Donald Trump.
Everything runs in cycles. Trump will eventually be out of office either next year or 2024 and the dems will regain power one day and I have little doubt in the not so distant future when that happens and the democrats wreck everything (like the left destroys everything it touches) you will long to have the Trump economy back. These are great economic times we are living in due to Trump's policies. The dems socialist policies at best will only give this country shared misery.
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I love it when the baby killers take the moral high ground.
I love it when the baby killers take the moral high ground.
Christianity Today speaks for baby killers? And here I thought they were speaking for the Evangelicals all this time. Keep up. The article is about their stance on Trumps' lack of moral character.
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I love it when the baby killers take the moral high ground.
Christianity Today speaks for baby killers? And here I thought they were speaking for the Evangelicals all this time. Keep up. The article is about their stance on Trumps' lack of moral character.
Christianity Today speaks for baby killers?
Give them time.
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I love it when the baby killers take the moral high ground.
Christianity Today speaks for baby killers? And here I thought they were speaking for the Evangelicals all this time. Keep up. The article is about their stance on Trumps' lack of moral character.
Christianity Today speaks for baby killers? And here I thought they were speaking for the Evangelicals all this time. Keep up. The article is about their stance on Trumps' lack of moral character.
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I love it when the baby killers take the moral high ground.
Christianity Today speaks for baby killers? And here I thought they were speaking for the Evangelicals all this time. Keep up. The article is about their stance on Trumps' lack of moral character.
Christianity Today speaks for baby killers? And here I thought they were speaking for the Evangelicals all this time. Keep up. The article is about their stance on Trumps' lack of moral character.
actually, yes. that mag has gone leftwing. Like the World Council of Churches went way, way leftwing decades ago. Like the American Council of Churches did, too. Big leftwing globalist money (soros) has bought many orgs around the world.
The Religious Left Just Doesn't Get It: Socialism Is Anti ...
https://www.crisismagazine.com/2019/the-christian-left-doesnt-get-it-socialism-is-anti...
Sep 11, 2019 · This is why religious people, and especially the Roman Catholic Church, knew that communism and socialism were antithetical to religion: the communists and socialists told us they were. This is the crucial history that our modern Religious Left …
The Catholic Church Has Gone Socialist - Accuracy in Media
https://www.aim.org/aim-column/the-catholic-church-has-gone-socialistMay 12, 2015 · The Catholic Church Has Gone Socialist by Cliff Kincaid on May 12, 2015 Since we published our article, “ Catholic Church Captured by ‘Progressive Forces,’ ” …
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He got elected because he spoke like a REAL AMERICAN, and not a globalist leftwing scumbucket sombeitch like obamao and the rest of his organized slime mafia.
He got elected because he spoke like a REAL AMERICAN, and not a globalist leftwing scumbucket sombeitch like obamao and the rest of his organized slime mafia.
But tell us how you really feel Cal...
He got elected because that leftwing scumbucket sombeitch Hillary was an even worse option- but you apparently haven't figured it out yet.
As some have pointed out- Trump's position on a lot of issues can change like Ohio weather....
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But you are one of the charter members of the erstwhile Exodus in protest of too many conservatives on this board.
Are there any issues on which you agree with Trump and disagree with his detractors? That might be a good starting point for building the perfect independent candidate.
WSS
Steve, I AM the conservative on this board. The lot of you are Republicans. You can either make peace that your party did away with the conservative part the moment Reagan took office or you can continue with your head in the sand. What about the current iteration of the Republican party do you find conservative? The grossly inflated budget and run-away spending that has spanned both parties now over the course of 4 decades? The unending bombing and war campaigns across different countries? Defeated ISIS only to bring Al-Queda to the negotiation table? You and I both know Dear Leader has a tweet for that one somewhere. What about the continuous expansion of Executive Branch powers? Sorry, I'm not and have never been a fan of the President offering pardon or immunity to any one party. That's a complete subversion of an entire branch of government and or military tribunal. The "thumbs up" approach to assaults on even the most basic of Constitutional Rights and or Amendments that I've highlighted multiple times before in several threads? ( Don't let the idiots here fool you, they honesty feel so long as they have the 2nd, that they aren't mortgaging away the rest of the them daily... they very much are) 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 14th.... The "hands off" approach on social issues and leaving them in the hands of the individual? Oh wait, that one doesn't exist. GOP members only want to tell you what THEY feel should be legal. Cutting taxes and then growing our way out of debt? Swell plan. (Another 40 year old failed idea) Setting aside the Judaeo-Christian dominance of the GOP and getting back to governing with logic, reason and modesty while separating personal faith, Americanism and duty? Can't be that, because Evangelical support has been so expansive, it has basically make the Republicans damn near a theocracy. Can't be done because apparently your're the righteous party of the almighty now. Nevermind the fact that, on last tally, the GOP leads the pack in extra-marital affairs, children fathered out of wedlock and amount of politicians accused of the homosex that they rally so strongly against in order to preserve the "family back bone" of the U.S. Of course that numbered could have swung to the other side by now. How hilarious would that be?
They, along with the Dems, are a big god damn joke. All of them. And if you play along with the joke, then so are you.
What I agree with Trump on? NAFTA, border security (NOT a wall) diplomacy with North Korea, listening about criminal justice reform and the Right to Try law are good places to start. The problem is, there is a HELL of a lot more I don't agree on. That's not even bringing his whiny, petulant child-like attitude into account.
Steve, I AM the conservative on this board. The lot of you are Republicans. You can either make peace that your party did away with the conservative part the moment Reagan took office or you can continue with your head in the sand. What about the current iteration of the Republican party do you find conservative? The grossly inflated budget and run-away spending that has spanned both parties now over the course of 4 decades? The unending bombing and war campaigns across different countries? Defeated ISIS only to bring Al-Queda to the negotiation table? You and I both know Dear Leader has a tweet for that one somewhere. What about the continuous expansion of Executive Branch powers? Sorry, I'm not and have never been a fan of the President offering pardon or immunity to any one party. That's a complete subversion of an entire branch of government and or military tribunal. The "thumbs up" approach to assaults on even the most basic of Constitutional Rights and or Amendments that I've highlighted multiple times before in several threads? ( Don't let the idiots here fool you, they honesty feel so long as they have the 2nd, that they aren't mortgaging away the rest of the them daily... they very much are) 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 14th.... The "hands off" approach on social issues and leaving them in the hands of the individual? Oh wait, that one doesn't exist. GOP members only want to tell you what THEY feel should be legal. Cutting taxes and then growing our way out of debt? Swell plan. (Another 40 year old failed idea) Setting aside the Judaeo-Christian dominance of the GOP and getting back to governing with logic, reason and modesty while separating personal faith, Americanism and duty? Can't be that, because Evangelical support has been so expansive, it has basically make the Republicans damn near a theocracy. Can't be done because apparently your're the righteous party of the almighty now. Nevermind the fact that, on last tally, the GOP leads the pack in extra-marital affairs, children fathered out of wedlock and amount of politicians accused of the homosex that they rally so strongly against in order to preserve the "family back bone" of the U.S. Of course that numbered could have swung to the other side by now. How hilarious would that be?
They, along with the Dems, are a big god damn joke. All of them. And if you play along with the joke, then so are you.
What I agree with Trump on? NAFTA, border security (NOT a wall) diplomacy with North Korea, listening about criminal justice reform and the Right to Try law are good places to start. The problem is, there is a HELL of a lot more I don't agree on. That's not even bringing his whiny, petulant child-like attitude into account.
and that right there is the biggest reason that we don't have much of a conversation. I read that and I agree whole heartedly or at least tacitly with just about every point you make. I think over the past most of our discussions, the few that there have been, have ended in "yep fair enough."
as far as your last statement that there is a hell of a lot more that you don't agree (with Trump I assume) on I'm not sure I'm on board with that. Could you give me a list of some of the things that you disagree with the president on? I might agree but without specifics, who knows?
For example while I don't think the wall is the optimal way to deal with border security I think it could certainly be used as one tool in a wider toolkit. Unfortunately in any political discussion it seems like one side has to be on the polar opposite of the other side.
Of course think that he comes off as something of an asshole on occasion in a way I find that endearing. I am sick to death of politicians nodding and smiling to their friends on the other side of the aisle when they would much rather just point and say "those dickheads"
but at this point I can't really couch this in a pro or minus for a third party. We could do that in another thread. Keep in mind that I do value what you say as always. Which unfortunately lacks the elements of a good political battle.
WSS
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He got elected because he spoke like a REAL AMERICAN, and not a globalist leftwing scumbucket sombeitch like obamao and the rest of his organized slime mafia.
But tell us how you really feel Cal...
He got elected because that leftwing scumbucket sombeitch Hillary was an even worse option- but you apparently haven't figured it out yet.
As some have pointed out- Trump's position on a lot of issues can change like Ohio weather....
But tell us how you really feel Cal...
He got elected because that leftwing scumbucket sombeitch Hillary was an even worse option- but you apparently haven't figured it out yet.
As some have pointed out- Trump's position on a lot of issues can change like Ohio weather....
well, good point - personally, the guy I want to be president is Sen. John Thune of South Dakota. I just see that there is no more America democratic political party any more. Whoever they muster to run, is a slut, and of course, the republican will be the better option.
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Why I still stand by 45
I wish I could have written that opinion that eloquently. The left hates Pres Trump, primarily, because their utopian socialist emotionalism LOST in 2016, and will lose bigtime in 2020. This whole fake impeachment was their only recourse to reach the emotional leftist base.
All that Pres Trump is doing wonderfully for America, is ignored. Their emotions rule, and free stuff/entitlement, and a mass feeling of fake elitism makes them "happy".
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But tell us how you really feel Cal...
He got elected because that leftwing scumbucket sombeitch Hillary was an even worse option- but you apparently haven't figured it out yet.
As some have pointed out- Trump's position on a lot of issues can change like Ohio weather....
well, good point - personally, the guy I want to be president is Sen. John Thune of South Dakota. I just see that there is no more America democratic political party any more. Whoever they muster to run, is a slut, and of course, the republican will be the better option.
well, good point - personally, the guy I want to be president is Sen. John Thune of South Dakota. I just see that there is no more America democratic political party any more. Whoever they muster to run, is a slut, and of course, the republican will be the better option.
If it makes you feel any better- Biden is the only Democrat that stands a chance against Trump. I hope the American electorate will be smart enough to figure out Bernie and Warren are pedaling outright socialism with massive tax increases to pay for it.
I wish I could have written that opinion that eloquently. The left hates Pres Trump, primarily, because their utopian socialist emotionalism LOST in 2016, and will lose bigtime in 2020. This whole fake impeachment was their only recourse to reach the emotional leftist base.
All that Pres Trump is doing wonderfully for America, is ignored. Their emotions rule, and free stuff/entitlement, and a mass feeling of fake elitism makes them "happy".
Been thinking about this Cal, and correct me if I'm wrong. the Democrats sure didn't go after Bush I or Bush II nearly as hard. The reason they hate from my POV (not a good term) Trump is because they view him as an unhinged nut. Someone- forgot exactly who- broke down Donald's 6 page spew to Pelosi, that there were plenty of lies, misstatements, and exaggerations.
As to the Republicans and Trump winning big time come November- don't get cocky. Don't forget- with the worst possible candidate (well short of Bernie that you know who sabotaged) - Hillary, the Democrats still won the popular vote against The Donald. He took the Electoral College with razor thin majorities in a couple of key states.
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well, good point - personally, the guy I want to be president is Sen. John Thune of South Dakota. I just see that there is no more America democratic political party any more. Whoever they muster to run, is a slut, and of course, the republican will be the better option.
If it makes you feel any better- Biden is the only Democrat that stands a chance against Trump. I hope the American electorate will be smart enough to figure out Bernie and Warren are pedaling outright socialism with massive tax increases to pay for it.
I wish I could have written that opinion that eloquently. The left hates Pres Trump, primarily, because their utopian socialist emotionalism LOST in 2016, and will lose bigtime in 2020. This whole fake impeachment was their only recourse to reach the emotional leftist base.
All that Pres Trump is doing wonderfully for America, is ignored. Their emotions rule, and free stuff/entitlement, and a mass feeling of fake elitism makes them "happy".
Been thinking about this Cal, and correct me if I'm wrong. the Democrats sure didn't go after Bush I or Bush II nearly as hard. The reason they hate from my POV (not a good term) Trump is because they view him as an unhinged nut. Someone- forgot exactly who- broke down Donald's 6 page spew to Pelosi, that there were plenty of lies, misstatements, and exaggerations.
As to the Republicans and Trump winning big time come November- don't get cocky. Don't forget- with the worst possible candidate (well short of Bernie that you know who sabotaged) - Hillary, the Democrats still won the popular vote against The Donald. He took the Electoral College with razor thin majorities in a couple of key states.
As to the Republicans and Trump winning big time come November- don't get cocky. Don't forget- with the worst possible candidate (well short of Bernie that you know who sabotaged) - Hillary, the Democrats still won the popular vote against The Donald. He took the Electoral College with razor thin majorities in a couple of key states.
Well, certainly true. Pres Trump is keeping his promises. He didn't have to enter this destructive fray - it's out of control. I don't excuse Trump's character flaws, occasional offensive tweets. America needs a pres to stand up to all the corruption. For years, I, like many Americans, have wondered why the hell nothing changes with carter/clinton/bush/obamao.... the inner cities still reek of poverty, taxes are still too damn high and our national debt won't stop growing, and attacks on our freedoms keep increasing, and NOBODY stops the freaking destructive mass illegal immigration and the critically serious growth of foreign gangs in our country...and on and on.
Finally, we see the deep corrupt state in action - locked in for decades bureaucrats who believe they own and run America, not the Supreme Court or the President, or even Congress. It's serious - and plenty of dumb conspiracy theories arise to ineptly try to explain it.
but now, false accusations and false witnesses and now a bogus fake impeachment, and mccabe/brennan/comey/strzok/page/rice/veldman sp?/clinesmith, valerie jarret, obamao, ....the whole list of ofthem = some are already proven to have lied to Congress...
it's a fight to avoid globalism, and loss of sovereignty - look at the EU - Britain fell into the same trap - now they desperately voted in conservatives because after a national vote in favor of brexit, the left has tried to stop them.
It's right down to obaMao going around the world condemning us. America. Americans. seriously?
Our Constitution/Bill of Rights is the Shining Document in history. It guarantees us our freedoms from tyranny and loss of sovereignty. Permanently. the last election - true - it was close. But ONLY because of the giant inner cities in certain states.
If you check out the map below, you'll see. and flooding illegals to these cities - with destitute/totally dependent on gov welfare are planned to buoy up the sagging democratic huge welfare state voting numbers. That is why the left is desperate to get them the vote.
and, this why the left desperately entertains getting rid of the electoral college. Look at all the red who elected Pres Trump.
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He got elected because he spoke like a REAL AMERICAN, and not a globalist leftwing scumbucket sombeitch like obamao and the rest of his organized slime mafia.
But tell us how you really feel Cal...
He got elected because that leftwing scumbucket sombeitch Hillary was an even worse option- but you apparently haven't figured it out yet.
As some have pointed out- Trump's position on a lot of issues can change like Ohio weather....
But tell us how you really feel Cal...
He got elected because that leftwing scumbucket sombeitch Hillary was an even worse option- but you apparently haven't figured it out yet.
As some have pointed out- Trump's position on a lot of issues can change like Ohio weather....
And there's much you apparently haven't figured out.
As hard as you try to make yourself believe that Hillary being an awful candidate was the primary reason Trump got elected, it was not.
As part of the low info liberal crowd you may not have been aware of the thousands upon thousands that showed up at Trumps presidential campaign rallies. These crowd levels were unprecedented, never seen before in a presidential campaign. But how would you have known by watching CNN.
They were not there because Hillary sucked, they were there because for the first time in American history a blunt, plain spoken non politician was running for president who they believed could make America great again. And obviously their prognosis was correct.
They were there because of the disconnect democrats had for the working class. Democrats amongst you more concerned about issues such as men who think that they are women being allowed to use the little girls room, gay marriage, reparations for slavery, free shit for everyone...
Trumps election was the repudiation of Obama and his policies and the rejection of any democrat whos aim was to carry on Obamas legacy, be it Hillary or anyone else.
….and if you're also not aware, these mega rallies continue to this day.
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Showing that map and going "See! Red!" has to be one of the lowest intelligence level things repeatedly posted on here, and that's saying something. Last time I checked a president was elected by people*, not square miles. I know you and others here are easily tricked by data and numbers but come on, this one should be easy.
*Well not really, because the electoral college is outdated and broken
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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