My Browns uni concept
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the uniforms look kind of cool, but i have to say that i am still a big fan of the classics. they are what we have all grown up with and will remember forever. although i do like the idea of bringing back the orange alternate jerseys.
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Here is a clue for you dude: The Steelers are defending NFL Champions...and nobody outside of Pittsburgh gives a sh** about that...any more than you or anyone else gives a sh** about the 13 titles we own.
And the fact of the matter is, having all those titles stills gives the Cleveland area more titles than any other metropolitan region...and it is still more than double the number of titles Pee-town owns.
All we have done for the last 40+ years is to give other cities the opportunity to catch up...and none have.
And, EVERY fan EVERYWHERE wants their team to win all the time. It bothers the fans of the Giants that they didn't win the SB last year, even though they won it just the year before.
Won't it bother you when the Steelers don't repeat next year? Do you think you will feel any better about not winning the title next year than Browns fans will feel about not winning the title next year? Probably not. Having won it last year will give you no greater solace for not winning it than Browns fans will have for not having won it since 1964.
Ya follow?
It does bother me when the Steelers dont win the Super Bowl every year, but at the sametime I am also realistic and know that it's virtually impossible to win every single season. It's just not going to happen. The way the NFL is now with all the parody it's hard enough to win one Super Bowl let alone 2 or 3. That's why I think the Steelers winning 2 Super Bowls in 4 years and having a chance to win 3 in 5 years this season, along with the New England Patriots of this decade winning 3 in 4 years is just an amazing accomplishment in this era of the salary cap and free agency. That's the difference between the NFL of today, and the NFL era back when the Browns won all of their titles. It's much more difficult to win on a consistant basis and make the playoffs year in and year out.
It does bother me when the Steelers dont win the Super Bowl every year, but at the sametime I am also realistic and know that it's virtually impossible to win every single season. It's just not going to happen. The way the NFL is now with all the parody it's hard enough to win one Super Bowl let alone 2 or 3. That's why I think the Steelers winning 2 Super Bowls in 4 years and having a chance to win 3 in 5 years this season, along with the New England Patriots of this decade winning 3 in 4 years is just an amazing accomplishment in this era of the salary cap and free agency. That's the difference between the NFL of today, and the NFL era back when the Browns won all of their titles. It's much more difficult to win on a consistant basis and make the playoffs year in and year out.
I don't necessarily buy that, simply because history shows its not the case. In every single decade since the league began there has been a "dominant" team that won at least three titles. So a dynasty is a staple of the NFL and the leagues that merged with it. In the 20s it was the Canton/Cleveland Bulldogs, in the 30s it was the Packers, in the 40s the Bears in the NFL and Browns in the AAFC, in the 50s it was the Browns and Lions, in the 60s the Packers, in the 70s the Steelers, in the 80s the 49ers, in the 90s the Cowboys, and in the 00s so far the Patriots.
Just like back in the "old" days, you have to have an outstanding organization and outstanding coaching. That formula hasn't changed to win titles. It can win today in the era of salary cap and free agency just as it did back then....and the Patriots...and Steelers are proof of that.
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Here we have a Browns poster kind enough to spend time designing some pretty cool uni's, and of course the thread is derailed by a fan of another team.
"I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley -
You are the one that started the weak, gay BS. What goes around, comes around.
Why don't you simply recognize that you indeed are privileged and "lucky" to have been alive during an era when the team from the town you live in has had a good run. If you had been born in 1922 and begun following the Steelers when you were 10, you would have been 50 years old by the time you would have seen them win their very first postseason game.
That is why I say it is nothing but an accident that you have enjoyed a team that has performed well. It is only an accident on our part that we have lived through a recent futile era of the Browns. There is nothing about what you have ever said or done that gives you the right to gloat, now is there? Other than accidentally living your life. The Steelers for the last 15 years could just as easily have been right down there with the Pirates given the right slight change of circumstance. Do you have any more cause to gloat over the Pirates performance than the Steelers performance? No.
Well I dont think anybody could be as bad as the Pirates have who are on the verge of breaking the all-time losing record in pro-sports for losing seasons with 17 straight. You have to work that hard and have terrible ownership and management to not even be good one year even if it's by accident or by pure luck. But still much like many Browns fans are still loyal to the Browns after all the losing I am the same with the Pirates as well. The Pirates are for the first time in a long long time headed in the right direction and I believe their losing ways will come to an end over the next few seasons.
Believe me I am very very grateful that I have been able to witness the amount of success that the Steelers franchise has had since I have been a fan 20 some years ago. I am even more grateful that Pittsburgh became the first city ever to win a Super Bowl Championship and Stanley Cup Championship in the same year only 4 months apart. And I am sure everybody else who just happened to be born by "accident" as you like to put it is just as grateful as I am.
Well I dont think anybody could be as bad as the Pirates have who are on the verge of breaking the all-time losing record in pro-sports for losing seasons with 17 straight. You have to work that hard and have terrible ownership and management to not even be good one year even if it's by accident or by pure luck. But still much like many Browns fans are still loyal to the Browns after all the losing I am the same with the Pirates as well. The Pirates are for the first time in a long long time headed in the right direction and I believe their losing ways will come to an end over the next few seasons.
Believe me I am very very grateful that I have been able to witness the amount of success that the Steelers franchise has had since I have been a fan 20 some years ago. I am even more grateful that Pittsburgh became the first city ever to win a Super Bowl Championship and Stanley Cup Championship in the same year only 4 months apart. And I am sure everybody else who just happened to be born by "accident" as you like to put it is just as grateful as I am.
Not to bust your bubble, but, I am going to bust your bubble. The feat you mention, winning an NFL title followed by a Stanley Cup the next spring has been accomplished 3 other times in addition to this year: The Bears won the NFL in 1933 followed by the Blackhawks winning the NHL. In 1935 the Lions won the title followed up by the Redwings winning the Stanley Cup the following spring. Detroit had these same two teams repeat that feat again in the 1953 NFL and 1954 NHL seasons.
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I'm glad that the Browns haven't resorted to cheating in order to win like their neighbors to the SE did 38 years ago ( and haven't stopped since)
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Steelers:
Superbowl championships won with the help of PED's and officiating: 6
Superbowl Championships won without the help of PED's and cheating: 0
At least us Browns fans can hold our head high knowing we never have had to cheat our way to a superbowl win. The Steelers have never won a superbowl without cheating, wither, so we are even.
Steelers:
Superbowl championships won with the help of PED's and officiating: 6
Superbowl Championships won without the help of PED's and cheating: 0
At least us Browns fans can hold our head high knowing we never have had to cheat our way to a superbowl win. The Steelers have never won a superbowl without cheating, wither, so we are even.
LOL... LOL...LOL...LOL... You guys kill me.
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Those uni's look awesome. Great job.
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WV, these are awesome. Great work here.
Are the Browns due for new uni's soon?
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WV, these are awesome. Great work here.
Are the Browns due for new uni's soon?
I think my brownies are due for new uniforms. If we update and keep some of the stripes: it would look a lot like this:
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I finally got back to this thread to ask a question. I noticed the practice jerseys don't have numbers on the shoulders. I'm assuming that's because they're not being used at the stadium.
Does any one remember when they added the numbers to the shoulders? It appears to be something they added a while back w/o me even noticing until now. (Talk about observant. NOT)
All told, it's very nice seeing what an updated Browns uni. would look like. I'm 50/50 between traditional and contemporary.
I believe most of us know that the fan base in general might not be ready for this until the trip from NFL Champion(1964) to Super Bowl winner(?) is finally complete.
Browns fans are a stubborn lot. Maybe after there is a Lombardi trophy in the trophy case in Berea the updated unis. might be better accepted. I hope I'm wrong though.
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I finally got back to this thread to ask a question. I noticed the practice jerseys don't have numbers on the shoulders. I'm assuming that's because they're not being used at the stadium.
Does any one remember when they added the numbers to the shoulders? It appears to be something they added a while back w/o me even noticing until now. (Talk about observant. NOT)
All told, it's very nice seeing what an updated Browns uni. would look like. I'm 50/50 between traditional and contemporary.
I believe most of us know that the fan base in general might not be ready for this until the trip from NFL Champion(1964) to Super Bowl winner(?) is finally complete.
Browns fans are a stubborn lot. Maybe after there is a Lombardi trophy in the trophy case in Berea the updated unis. might be better accepted. I hope I'm wrong though.
Does any one remember when they added the numbers to the shoulders? It appears to be something they added a while back w/o me even noticing until now. (Talk about observant. NOT)
I believe the shoulder (or "TV") numbers and nameplates became mandatory in the early 70's. But teams can wear throwbacks without the TV numbers if they originally didn't have them though nameplates are still mandatory even on throwbacks.
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A boardie on one of the graphics sites I check out came up with a neat photoshop template for football uniforms. So I messed around with it and came up with my own Browns uniform update.
A boardie on one of the graphics sites I check out came up with a neat photoshop template for football uniforms. So I messed around with it and came up with my own Browns uniform update.
<img src="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/wvguin/Browns-concept-2.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
This is awesome, great job! May I have the info on the template so I may mess around with it too? I love the Brown on White look you have here!
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amazing what the magic wand and the fill bucket tool can do.
that's a 2 minute job in photoshop.
great. amazing. awesome.
can you show me something that you did w/o taking someone else's template and playing around with the color profile?
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Thanks again for the positive comments everyone ! Here's a logo I came up with that may not work on the uniform but maybe as a patch on shirts, hats, etc.
Thanks again for the positive comments everyone ! Here's a logo I came up with that may not work on the uniform but maybe as a patch on shirts, hats, etc.
<img src="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b398/wvguin/Browns-patch-2.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
that should definitely be on our players sleeves or on the back of their winter coats they wear on the sidelines, totally old school looking....kick ass design/logo!!!
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Jesus H, I can't stop coming back to this thread just to stare.
I'm not sure if I'm more amazed at how good those are, or how in the world the Browns have never even tried something like this.
OK, one more thing I'm amazed at, WV has produced something that we are all not only OK with, but we are all slobbering over.
Jesus H, I can't stop coming back to this thread just to stare.
I'm not sure if I'm more amazed at how good those are, or how in the world the Browns have never even tried something like this.
OK, one more thing I'm amazed at, WV has produced something that we are all not only OK with, but we are all slobbering over.
As someone else mentioned, can we forward these designs to Nike since they are redoing the uni's, and would they even listen...probably not.
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A boardie on one of the graphics sites I check out came up with a neat photoshop template for football uniforms. So I messed around with it and came up with my own Browns uniform update.
A boardie on one of the graphics sites I check out came up with a neat photoshop template for football uniforms. So I messed around with it and came up with my own Browns uniform update.
Nice work, any of these are changes that would modernize the browns but yet i could easily live with..
Its all about the helmet, dont touch the helmet!
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A boardie on one of the graphics sites I check out came up with a neat photoshop template for football uniforms. So I messed around with it and came up with my own Browns uniform update.
Nice work, any of these are changes that would modernize the browns but yet i could easily live with..
Its all about the helmet, dont touch the helmet!
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I remember this thread, and no, it would not bother me if the Browns made these nice looking changes, though I am still not sure that I like the orange or brown pants.....but these look a hell of a lot better than the Browns pants they wore last year.
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