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  • darren15D darren15

    I am seeing Stefanski and Kubiak  being mentioned a lot  on Twitter .....

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    @darren15 said:

    I am seeing Stefanski and Kubiak  being mentioned a lot  on Twitter .....

    DePodesta is running the head coach search now, and apparently Stefanski was his choice last offseason. 

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      I'm not sure how much I like DePodesta.   After his (and The Committee's) first draft he boasted how they drafted 'productive' college players.  And my question at the time was, "But does their 'college' game translate to the pros well?"   And as I recall, not too many worked out well. 

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        I'm not sure how much I like DePodesta.   After his (and The Committee's) first draft he boasted how they drafted 'productive' college players.  And my question at the time was, "But does their 'college' game translate to the pros well?"   And as I recall, not too many worked out well. 

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        @orion said:

        I'm not sure how much I like DePodesta.   After his (and The Committee's) first draft he boasted how they drafted 'productive' college players.  And my question at the time was, "But does their 'college' game translate to the pros well?"   And as I recall, not too many worked out well. 

        A million draft picks, virtually nothing to show for it. 

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          I'm not sure how much I like DePodesta.   After his (and The Committee's) first draft he boasted how they drafted 'productive' college players.  And my question at the time was, "But does their 'college' game translate to the pros well?"   And as I recall, not too many worked out well. 

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          @orion said:

          I'm not sure how much I like DePodesta.   After his (and The Committee's) first draft he boasted how they drafted 'productive' college players.  And my question at the time was, "But does their 'college' game translate to the pros well?"   And as I recall, not too many worked out well. 

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          • darren15D darren15

            I am seeing Stefanski and Kubiak  being mentioned a lot  on Twitter .....

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            @darren15 said:

            I am seeing Stefanski and Kubiak  being mentioned a lot  on Twitter .....

            Sorry... I was Jimmy the 11th caller that called NFL Radio yesterday.. Wanted Ed McCaffery's feedback on Gary Kubiak that I think could get Baker on track & Kub would know how to use Hunt & Chubb..

            1) Mike Zimmer's contract may expire after 2020 season. Re-signed 1 year 

            2) McCaffery (who played with Gary) said he knows nothing concerning about Gary's health risk. But Gary really enjoys being with his son, now coaching on Vikes OL staff also

            3) Led me to:: Zimmer covered his back, thinking Stefanski should have landed a job this season

            4) Imho..Gary ain't leaving...Bye Pantski

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              I'm not sure how much I like DePodesta.   After his (and The Committee's) first draft he boasted how they drafted 'productive' college players.  And my question at the time was, "But does their 'college' game translate to the pros well?"   And as I recall, not too many worked out well. 

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              @orion said:

              I'm not sure how much I like DePodesta.   After his (and The Committee's) first draft he boasted how they drafted 'productive' college players.  And my question at the time was, "But does their 'college' game translate to the pros well?"   And as I recall, not too many worked out well. 

              as i just mentioned in a different thread how can he have so much input on the team being that he does not reside in Cleveland

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                @orion said:

                I'm not sure how much I like DePodesta.   After his (and The Committee's) first draft he boasted how they drafted 'productive' college players.  And my question at the time was, "But does their 'college' game translate to the pros well?"   And as I recall, not too many worked out well. 

                as i just mentioned in a different thread how can he have so much input on the team being that he does not reside in Cleveland

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                @atom said:

                as i just mentioned in a different thread how can he have so much input on the team being that he does not reside in Cleveland

                Because he's the Haslam's "flavor of the month"?

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                  Mike McCarthy, former Packers head coach: McCarthy may have had a rocky relationship with Aaron Rodgers, but he's still respected by many in the league.

                  Pro: Won a Super Bowl.

                  Con: Completely lost control of the Packers.

                  When you have Rodgers for 10 years, shouldn't you win more than one SB?

                  Robert Saleh, defensive coordinator, 49ers: If Saleh wants a head coaching job now, one general manager told me, he could have his pick. He's viewed by the league as smart and good in the locker room.

                  Pro: Gets the most out of players.

                  Con: It's unknown how he'd handle the offensive side of the ball.

                  That's really reaching for a "Con". If he's smart, then you just ask him and he'll have the answer... and it likely will be something akin to the 49ers ground pounding O.

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                  @tour2ma said:

                  When you have Rodgers for 10 years, shouldn't you win more than one SB?

                  That's really reaching for a "Con". If he's smart, then you just ask him and he'll have the answer... and it likely will be something akin to the 49ers ground pounding O.

                  Drew Brees has been with Sean Payton 14 years and only have 1 SB

                  I would think that Payton would be at the top of most peoples list, if he was available 

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                    @orion said:

                    I'm not sure how much I like DePodesta.   After his (and The Committee's) first draft he boasted how they drafted 'productive' college players.  And my question at the time was, "But does their 'college' game translate to the pros well?"   And as I recall, not too many worked out well. 

                    A million draft picks, virtually nothing to show for it. 

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    A million draft picks, virtually nothing to show for it. 

                    Virtually?

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                      If you could get Kubiak to take the stress of HC again, he'd be ideal. He was Elway's coach on the bench when they played together and eventually a Superbowl winning HC. He has designed and run many an innovative offense for various pro teams. And he's smart enough and well respected enough to find a very good D coordinator.

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        Plus Kubs is an Aggie! ?

                        "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          A million draft picks, virtually nothing to show for it. 

                          Virtually?

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                          @tour2ma said:

                          Virtually?

                          That was being very kind. The BROWNS in general since 1999 have blown the most draft picks in the 100 year history of professional football.  There.  😛

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                            @tour2ma said:

                            Virtually?

                            That was being very kind. The BROWNS in general since 1999 have blown the most draft picks in the 100 year history of professional football.  There.  😛

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                            @mjp28 said:

                            That was being very kind. The BROWNS in general since 1999 have blown the most draft picks in the 100 year history of professional football.  There.  😛

                            True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

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                              @mjp28 said:

                              That was being very kind. The BROWNS in general since 1999 have blown the most draft picks in the 100 year history of professional football.  There.  😛

                              True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

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                              @tour2ma said:

                              True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

                              True but they did their part in keeping the BROWNS drafts.... exciting?

                              And remember,. The 2021 NFL Draft will be the 86th annual meeting of National Football League (NFL) franchises to select newly eligible players. The draft is expected to be held in late April 2021, based on prior draft dates. It will be held in Cleveland, Ohio.

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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                A million draft picks, virtually nothing to show for it. 

                                Virtually?

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                                @tour2ma said:

                                Virtually?

                                Literally? 

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                                  @mjp28 said:

                                  That was being very kind. The BROWNS in general since 1999 have blown the most draft picks in the 100 year history of professional football.  There.  😛

                                  True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

                                  I have no idea what you and mjp are talking about... 

                                  I was referring specifically to the 2016 Browns draft. 

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                                    Not endorsing McCarthy.  Pro: He coached the same team for 13 seasons.


                                    the life of an NFL coach if they are lucky ends in retirement but most likely ends in being fired.  

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                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

                                      I have no idea what you and mjp are talking about... 

                                      I was referring specifically to the 2016 Browns draft. 

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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      I have no idea what you and mjp are talking about... 

                                      I was referring specifically to the 2016 Browns draft. 

                                      We were just expanding on your thoughts.

                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      A million draft picks, virtually nothing to show for it. 

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                                        Pick the worst guy...historically that is who we will sign...

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                                          I changed my mind a bit -

                                          https://www.vikings.com/team/coaches-roster/kevin-stefanski

                                          for head coach, no doubt about it.

                                          But Kris Richard for DC.

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