Grading the 2017 Browns Draft
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Are these your grades? Seem fair enough (maybe assess a grade to each pick....keeping in mind where they were taken)
Are these your grades? Seem fair enough (maybe assess a grade to each pick....keeping in mind where they were taken)
Yes, the overall grade on the draft class review I did is my grade.
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Grade: C+ (really close to B-)
There are only three players left on the roster and one is suspended indefinitely.
Also, we draft Kizer in a draft that includes Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. I know hindsight is 2020, but NOBODY saw Mahomes becoming something? Did the Browns even have scouts?
F+ grade.
There are only three players left on the roster and one is suspended indefinitely.
Also, we draft Kizer in a draft that includes Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. I know hindsight is 2020, but NOBODY saw Mahomes becoming something? Did the Browns even have scouts?
F+ grade.
True, big BROWNS washout draft almost nobody left from some pretty good draft positions, wrong quarterback picked (I'm watching Watson now) what year is this again?
........Also, we draft Kizer in a draft that includes Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. I know hindsight is 2020, but NOBODY saw Mahomes becoming something? Did the Browns even have scouts?.......
Boy scouts or girl scouts?
Grade: in hindsight, D+ would be kind. (Note: Njoku could still be very productive, we don't know on Garrett's status yet potentially could rise)
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I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
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I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
The Browns had the #1 pick. They could have got their QB and another quality player with the pick they used on Kizer. Point is they saw something in Kizer and not Mahomes or Watson, c'mon man. There talent scout must have been Stevie Wonder.
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I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
They didn't try (that we know of) to trade for picks to get any other quarterback -but- it wasn't really a QB loaded draft.
But outside of Garrett the draft didn't go the way I wanted it to go......oh well. Still the biggest crap shoot in sports.
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Are these your grades? Seem fair enough (maybe assess a grade to each pick....keeping in mind where they were taken)
Yes, the overall grade on the draft class review I did is my grade.
Yes, the overall grade on the draft class review I did is my grade.
x-gm Mark Dominick on nfl radio graded it as a solid C...your all over it...
To others, a huge minus deduction is given on players no longer in the league. this is not the case here as other Browns drafts..
Dayes was on the Hawks ps & Wilson is not a huge hit due to injury
Trade up or down values are never included in player grades
Well done Dutch!
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I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
The Browns had the #1 pick. They could have got their QB and another quality player with the pick they used on Kizer. Point is they saw something in Kizer and not Mahomes or Watson, c'mon man. There talent scout must have been Stevie Wonder.
The Browns had the #1 pick. They could have got their QB and another quality player with the pick they used on Kizer. Point is they saw something in Kizer and not Mahomes or Watson, c'mon man. There talent scout must have been Stevie Wonder.
I could be wrong, but I don't think there is a team or a scout alive who would have suggested using the #1 overall pick on Watson or Mahomes then. Of course it seems like someone would have now, but a lot of people thought both QBs were somewhat of a reach where they were taken.
But of course, if the Browns had to do it over, they would take Mahomes #1.
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And if some of you think this draft warranted a D+ or F, I'm not sure a letter grade exists for what you would give the 2016 Browns draft. ?
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And if some of you think this draft warranted a D+ or F, I'm not sure a letter grade exists for what you would give the 2016 Browns draft. ?
And if some of you think this draft warranted a D+ or F, I'm not sure a letter grade exists for what you would give the 2016 Browns draft. ?
Oh God. Everything in life is relevant comparing 2017 and 2016. B and incomplete. (Note again, the 3 number 1 picks in 2017 was somewhat disappointing.)
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I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
Recall though, that Browns had the #10 pick in addition to the #1 pick. They could have taken either Watson or Mahomes with #10.....but decided to trade down to get 2 other 1st round picks, which they took Peppers and Njoku. Remember?
That was Sashi's wheeling an dealing.
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I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
Recall though, that Browns had the #10 pick in addition to the #1 pick. They could have taken either Watson or Mahomes with #10.....but decided to trade down to get 2 other 1st round picks, which they took Peppers and Njoku. Remember?
That was Sashi's wheeling an dealing.
Recall though, that Browns had the #10 pick in addition to the #1 pick. They could have taken either Watson or Mahomes....but decided to trade down to get 2 other 1st round picks, which they took Peppers and Njoku. Remember?
Oh wow, I did not, totally forgot about that.
That changes things, then.
Jesus, the Browns could have had Garrett AND Mahomes/Watson, instead of Garrett, Peppers and Njoku. Damn.
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Recall though, that Browns had the #10 pick in addition to the #1 pick. They could have taken either Watson or Mahomes....but decided to trade down to get 2 other 1st round picks, which they took Peppers and Njoku. Remember?
Oh wow, I did not, totally forgot about that.
That changes things, then.
Jesus, the Browns could have had Garrett AND Mahomes/Watson, instead of Garrett, Peppers and Njoku. Damn.
Oh wow, I did not, totally forgot about that.
That changes things, then.
Jesus, the Browns could have had Garrett AND Mahomes/Watson, instead of Garrett, Peppers and Njoku. Damn.
Yep.
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Such a sad list. The good news is every list from every other season would look just as sad....... Gotta love the Browns' consistency.
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Recall though, that Browns had the #10 pick in addition to the #1 pick. They could have taken either Watson or Mahomes....but decided to trade down to get 2 other 1st round picks, which they took Peppers and Njoku. Remember?
Oh wow, I did not, totally forgot about that.
That changes things, then.
Jesus, the Browns could have had Garrett AND Mahomes/Watson, instead of Garrett, Peppers and Njoku. Damn.
Oh wow, I did not, totally forgot about that.
That changes things, then.
Jesus, the Browns could have had Garrett AND Mahomes/Watson, instead of Garrett, Peppers and Njoku. Damn.
IIRC, they could have Garrett and Watson, because they had #12 and Mahomes was picked with #10.
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Oh wow, I did not, totally forgot about that.
That changes things, then.
Jesus, the Browns could have had Garrett AND Mahomes/Watson, instead of Garrett, Peppers and Njoku. Damn.
IIRC, they could have Garrett and Watson, because they had #12 and Mahomes was picked with #10.
IIRC, they could have Garrett and Watson, because they had #12 and Mahomes was picked with #10.
I think that is right. I think Sashi's thing was just wheeling and dealing... so many trades:
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Recall though, that Browns had the #10 pick in addition to the #1 pick. They could have taken either Watson or Mahomes....but decided to trade down to get 2 other 1st round picks, which they took Peppers and Njoku. Remember?
Oh wow, I did not, totally forgot about that.
That changes things, then.
Jesus, the Browns could have had Garrett AND Mahomes/Watson, instead of Garrett, Peppers and Njoku. Damn.
Oh wow, I did not, totally forgot about that.
That changes things, then.
Jesus, the Browns could have had Garrett AND Mahomes/Watson, instead of Garrett, Peppers and Njoku. Damn.
Yep Another lovely Browns trade down.
Why take a great talent at 10 when you get a couple lottery tickets later.
yet fans talk about this strategy every year like its our only wise sane move we can make.
i couldn’t stand the Peppers pick. Truthfully I can’t stand Michigan, and aside from Mike Hart I couldn’t recall a bigger @$$ hat at UM than Peppers. I thought it was hilarious when G Will played him 25 yards off the ball. But...he was a valuable trade chip this past Spring.
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I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
I don't know what drafting Kizer had to do with Mahomes or Watson, its not like they were on the board when they took him. Mahomes was taken #10 overall, Watson #12. Browns didn't have another pick until #25. Kizer was taken way after those two.
And I've said for years Kizer was a reach where he was drafted. 4th round talent at best.
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I think l look at Browns drafts through my Brown colored glasses, the same glasses that have seen miserable and embarrassing first round flops far too often, so that said, this draft looks ok to me.
Garrett is good, and Peppers provided value with the OBJ trade and had a pretty good year for New York until getting hurt. Njoku is at least still in the league and has shown great flashes of talent.
Kizer never panned out, but even he provided value getting shipped out in a trade for a solid safety in Randall.
I like Ogunjobi, though his play is inconsistent at times.
Gonzalez is still a starting kicker in the league.
I think Dayes could have carved out a niche for a few years as a backup in the league if the chips fell differently, but l think there’s a lotta RBs you could say that about.
Brantley and Wilson didn’t work out. Wilson got the injury superflu and Brantley is at least still in the league.
I’d actually give this draft a B -.
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