Next man up
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Started this in the MM thread, but it seems to fit better here...
... the old Oilers coach Bum Phillips.
Really good example of a leader as an HC. His Oiler teams loved the man and would have played on broken glass if he asked them to. He got the best out of everyone who played for him no matter what level of talent they brought to the team.
Someone mentioned Tomlin in one thread or another a while ago as an example of getting the leader part right in the selection process over getting the X'sO's genius. While there are things I don't like about Tomlin, I can't argue that he does not effectively lead the Steelers... same for Cowher before him... and Noll before him.
Maybe that needs to be our point of emphasis over XsOs.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Started this in the MM thread, but it seems to fit better here...
... the old Oilers coach Bum Phillips.
Really good example of a leader as an HC. His Oiler teams loved the man and would have played on broken glass if he asked them to. He got the best out of everyone who played for him no matter what level of talent they brought to the team.
Someone mentioned Tomlin in one thread or another a while ago as an example of getting the leader part right in the selection process over getting the X'sO's genius. While there are things I don't like about Tomlin, I can't argue that he does not effectively lead the Steelers... same for Cowher before him... and Noll before him.
Maybe that needs to be our point of emphasis over XsOs.
Started this in the MM thread, but it seems to fit better here...
Really good example of a leader as an HC. His Oiler teams loved the man and would have played on broken glass if he asked them to. He got the best out of everyone who played for him no matter what level of talent they brought to the team.
Someone mentioned Tomlin in one thread or another a while ago as an example of getting the leader part right in the selection process over getting the X'sO's genius. While there are things I don't like about Tomlin, I can't argue that he does not effectively lead the Steelers... same for Cowher before him... and Noll before him.
Maybe that needs to be our point of emphasis over XsOs.
ok ya i liked bum but c'mon his claim to fame was running earl to death and trust me i loved to watch him do it along with billy white shoes
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I was happy with the Hue Jackson hiring when it first happened. I thought it was a good idea to have Baker continue working with Freddie Kitchens, so l was ok with making Freddie the HC.
i really have no business putting forth the effort deciding if l do or don’t like any of these guys over the others. I suck at it.
I think l like Saleh though. So better hope it’s not him, haha.
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McD?
I dunno... his pratfall in Denver just makes it too hard to want him. He might be a great OC, but HC??? I just don't see the added years he's spent under Bill raising his HC "game"... and when last seen it needed significant raising.
Details of his DNV time are a little fuzzy, but google is my friend:
- https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/20/16910138/broncos-media-helps-explain-what-went-wrong-with-josh-mcdaniels-in-denver
- https://www.milehighreport.com/2016/1/20/10793696/josh-mcdaniels-head-coach-patriots-broncos
- https://www.denverpost.com/2010/12/06/mcdaniels-fired-as-broncos-coach-after-controversy-losses-pile-up/
The three articles progressively step back in time to his Bronco stint. I'd completely forgotten that McD authored his own little spygate episode prior to a London game vs. the 49ers. Here's a tidbit from the 2018 recounting...
McDaniels had full control over the roster, and while he didn’t have the same credibility and respectability as a guy like Bill Belichick, he tried to command that respect like a dog marking its territory all over the organization.
I dunno... his pratfall in Denver just makes it too hard to want him. He might be a great OC, but HC??? I just don't see the added years he's spent under Bill raising his HC "game"... and when last seen it needed significant raising.
Details of his DNV time are a little fuzzy, but google is my friend:
- https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/20/16910138/broncos-media-helps-explain-what-went-wrong-with-josh-mcdaniels-in-denver
- https://www.milehighreport.com/2016/1/20/10793696/josh-mcdaniels-head-coach-patriots-broncos
- https://www.denverpost.com/2010/12/06/mcdaniels-fired-as-broncos-coach-after-controversy-losses-pile-up/
The three articles progressively step back in time to his Bronco stint. I'd completely forgotten that McD authored his own little spygate episode prior to a London game vs. the 49ers. Here's a tidbit from the 2018 recounting...
Hey I just posted the article I think there are all kinds of red flags with this guy. I don't want to be swayed by the fact that he's from 3 miles from my house. An offensive coordinator with Brady and Gronk seems to already have a step up on the opposition.
WSS
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I admit, there's a twisted part of my brain that would find it amusing if the Haslams finally get their white whale - Josh McDaniels - only to have him back out at the last minute like he did to the Colts.
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I dunno... his pratfall in Denver just makes it too hard to want him. He might be a great OC, but HC??? I just don't see the added years he's spent under Bill raising his HC "game"... and when last seen it needed significant raising.
Details of his DNV time are a little fuzzy, but google is my friend:
- https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/20/16910138/broncos-media-helps-explain-what-went-wrong-with-josh-mcdaniels-in-denver
- https://www.milehighreport.com/2016/1/20/10793696/josh-mcdaniels-head-coach-patriots-broncos
- https://www.denverpost.com/2010/12/06/mcdaniels-fired-as-broncos-coach-after-controversy-losses-pile-up/
The three articles progressively step back in time to his Bronco stint. I'd completely forgotten that McD authored his own little spygate episode prior to a London game vs. the 49ers. Here's a tidbit from the 2018 recounting...
Hey I just posted the article I think there are all kinds of red flags with this guy. I don't want to be swayed by the fact that he's from 3 miles from my house. An offensive coordinator with Brady and Gronk seems to already have a step up on the opposition.
WSS
Hey I just posted the article I think there are all kinds of red flags with this guy. I don't want to be swayed by the fact that he's from 3 miles from my house. An offensive coordinator with Brady and Gronk seems to already have a step up on the opposition.
WSS
He was born at Barberton citizens hospital. But he grew up in the north canton area Plain Township actually
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I admit, there's a twisted part of my brain that would find it amusing if the Haslams finally get their white whale - Josh McDaniels - only to have him back out at the last minute like he did to the Colts.
I admit, there's a twisted part of my brain that would find it amusing if the Haslams finally get their white whale - Josh McDaniels - only to have him back out at the last minute like he did to the Colts.
What would actually be funny would be if say the patriots lost tomorrow that Robert Kraft would go to Bill Belichick and ask him to step down in favor of McDaniels because he doesn’t wanna lose McDaniels for the future. That would be funny.
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https://923thefan.radio.com/articles/terez-paylor-likes-kevin-stefanski-as-next-browns-coach
And some stefanski clickbait
WSS
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I admit, there's a twisted part of my brain that would find it amusing if the Haslams finally get their white whale - Josh McDaniels - only to have him back out at the last minute like he did to the Colts.
I admit, there's a twisted part of my brain...
And it's the part we all like the best!
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I admit, there's a twisted part of my brain...
And it's the part we all like the best!
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/carolina-to-interview-josh-mcdaniels-on-tuesday/
So does he sign today? Then does stefanski go to the Giants and?
WSS
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/carolina-to-interview-josh-mcdaniels-on-tuesday/
So does he sign today? Then does stefanski go to the Giants and?
WSS
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/carolina-to-interview-josh-mcdaniels-on-tuesday/
So does he sign today? Then does stefanski go to the Giants and?
WSS
No. My prediction sure to go wrong..McDaniels is the Browns coach, Bienemy is the carolina coach, and Matt Rhule is in NY
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/carolina-to-interview-josh-mcdaniels-on-tuesday/
So does he sign today? Then does stefanski go to the Giants and?
WSS
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/carolina-to-interview-josh-mcdaniels-on-tuesday/
So does he sign today? Then does stefanski go to the Giants and?
WSS
Stefanski could be the best of both worlds, a two for one if he convinces Kubiak to be his OC. They have worked well together to keep the Viks O going.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/carolina-to-interview-josh-mcdaniels-on-tuesday/
So does he sign today? Then does stefanski go to the Giants and?
WSS
Stefanski could be the best of both worlds, a two for one if he convinces Kubiak to be his OC. They have worked well together to keep the Viks O going.
Stefanski could be the best of both worlds, a two for one if he convinces Kubiak to be his OC. They have worked well together to keep the Viks O going.
That could work. By the way how bad would it suck to be Eric Bienemy (or however it's spelled) who has to sit through all these interviews knowing that the only reason he's there is the Rooney Rule)
WSS
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Stefanski could be the best of both worlds, a two for one if he convinces Kubiak to be his OC. They have worked well together to keep the Viks O going.
That could work. By the way how bad would it suck to be Eric Bienemy (or however it's spelled) who has to sit through all these interviews knowing that the only reason he's there is the Rooney Rule)
WSS
That could work. By the way how bad would it suck to be Eric Bienemy (or however it's spelled) who has to sit through all these interviews knowing that the only reason he's there is the Rooney Rule)
WSS
I disagree with you on this one. I think he is a legit candidate. THIS year may not be his year (although I think he goes to Carolina) but within the next 2 years, he will be the head coach somewhere. Especially if the KC offense keeps doing it what it does best. Plus, part of the "idea" of the rooney rule is to at least get interviews, learn the process, and become more prepared. When it was initially installed minorities were not even given these chances. I still think the rule itself needs to be adjusted and adapted to the changing times, but the overall "concept" of the rule is a good idea.
Now, Marvin Lewis with the Cowboys...that was a direct exploitation of the Rooney Rule.
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That could work. By the way how bad would it suck to be Eric Bienemy (or however it's spelled) who has to sit through all these interviews knowing that the only reason he's there is the Rooney Rule)
WSS
I disagree with you on this one. I think he is a legit candidate. THIS year may not be his year (although I think he goes to Carolina) but within the next 2 years, he will be the head coach somewhere. Especially if the KC offense keeps doing it what it does best. Plus, part of the "idea" of the rooney rule is to at least get interviews, learn the process, and become more prepared. When it was initially installed minorities were not even given these chances. I still think the rule itself needs to be adjusted and adapted to the changing times, but the overall "concept" of the rule is a good idea.
Now, Marvin Lewis with the Cowboys...that was a direct exploitation of the Rooney Rule.
I disagree with you on this one. I think he is a legit candidate. THIS year may not be his year (although I think he goes to Carolina) but within the next 2 years, he will be the head coach somewhere. Especially if the KC offense keeps doing it what it does best. Plus, part of the "idea" of the rooney rule is to at least get interviews, learn the process, and become more prepared. When it was initially installed minorities were not even given these chances. I still think the rule itself needs to be adjusted and adapted to the changing times, but the overall "concept" of the rule is a good idea.
Now, Marvin Lewis with the Cowboys...that was a direct exploitation of the Rooney Rule.
You think Marv Lewis is less legit?
WSS
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I disagree with you on this one. I think he is a legit candidate. THIS year may not be his year (although I think he goes to Carolina) but within the next 2 years, he will be the head coach somewhere. Especially if the KC offense keeps doing it what it does best. Plus, part of the "idea" of the rooney rule is to at least get interviews, learn the process, and become more prepared. When it was initially installed minorities were not even given these chances. I still think the rule itself needs to be adjusted and adapted to the changing times, but the overall "concept" of the rule is a good idea.
Now, Marvin Lewis with the Cowboys...that was a direct exploitation of the Rooney Rule.
You think Marv Lewis is less legit?
WSS
You think Marv Lewis is less legit?
WSS
How do you think it would have gone over in Dallas if you replace a guy who can't win a playoff game in 10 years with a guy who can't win a playoff game in 15 years?
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You think Marv Lewis is less legit?
WSS
How do you think it would have gone over in Dallas if you replace a guy who can't win a playoff game in 10 years with a guy who can't win a playoff game in 15 years?
How do you think it would have gone over in Dallas if you replace a guy who can't win a playoff game in 10 years with a guy who can't win a playoff game in 15 years?
Dude its Cincinnati...
WSS
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https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article239015758.html
So it's Browns and Giants still open.
WSS
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And the Giants hire...
So McDaniels what do you think? Take the job or wait for Bill to retire?
WSS
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