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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @mjp28 said:

    That was being very kind. The BROWNS in general since 1999 have blown the most draft picks in the 100 year history of professional football.  There.  😛

    True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

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    @tour2ma said:

    True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

    True but they did their part in keeping the BROWNS drafts.... exciting?

    And remember,. The 2021 NFL Draft will be the 86th annual meeting of National Football League (NFL) franchises to select newly eligible players. The draft is expected to be held in late April 2021, based on prior draft dates. It will be held in Cleveland, Ohio.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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      @dutch-oven said:

      A million draft picks, virtually nothing to show for it. 

      Virtually?

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      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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      @tour2ma said:

      Virtually?

      Literally? 

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        @mjp28 said:

        That was being very kind. The BROWNS in general since 1999 have blown the most draft picks in the 100 year history of professional football.  There.  😛

        True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

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        Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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        @tour2ma said:

        True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

        I have no idea what you and mjp are talking about... 

        I was referring specifically to the 2016 Browns draft. 

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          Not endorsing McCarthy.  Pro: He coached the same team for 13 seasons.


          the life of an NFL coach if they are lucky ends in retirement but most likely ends in being fired.  

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            @tour2ma said:

            True... but I know that Dutch was not thinking back that far... not even close to that far.

            I have no idea what you and mjp are talking about... 

            I was referring specifically to the 2016 Browns draft. 

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            @dutch-oven said:

            I have no idea what you and mjp are talking about... 

            I was referring specifically to the 2016 Browns draft. 

            We were just expanding on your thoughts.

            @dutch-oven said:

            A million draft picks, virtually nothing to show for it. 

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              KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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              Pick the worst guy...historically that is who we will sign...

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                I changed my mind a bit -

                https://www.vikings.com/team/coaches-roster/kevin-stefanski

                for head coach, no doubt about it.

                But Kris Richard for DC.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  Pick the worst guy...historically that is who we will sign

                  I changed my mind a bit -

                  https://www.vikings.com/team/coaches-roster/kevin-stefanski

                  for head coach, no doubt about it.

                  But Kris Richard for DC.

                  It seems you and Cal maybe thinking a lot alike.😆

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                    I changed my mind a bit -

                    https://www.vikings.com/team/coaches-roster/kevin-stefanski

                    for head coach, no doubt about it.

                    But Kris Richard for DC.

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                    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    I changed my mind a bit -

                    https://www.vikings.com/team/coaches-roster/kevin-stefanski

                    for head coach, no doubt about it.

                    But Kris Richard for DC.

                    Word on the street is Jerrah Jones loves him some Mike McCarthy, and has decided to keep him in Big D an additional day.

                    I also agree on hiring Stefanski, Baker Mayfield is more productive running 12 personnel and Stefanski runs it 45% of the time.

                    IIRC, only Philly runs 12 personnel more than any other team in the league.

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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      I changed my mind a bit -

                      https://www.vikings.com/team/coaches-roster/kevin-stefanski

                      for head coach, no doubt about it.

                      But Kris Richard for DC.

                      Word on the street is Jerrah Jones loves him some Mike McCarthy, and has decided to keep him in Big D an additional day.

                      I also agree on hiring Stefanski, Baker Mayfield is more productive running 12 personnel and Stefanski runs it 45% of the time.

                      IIRC, only Philly runs 12 personnel more than any other team in the league.

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                      @canton-dawg said:

                      Word on the street is Jerrah Jones loves him some Mike McCarthy, and has decided to keep him in Big D an additional day.

                      I also agree on hiring Stefanski, Baker Mayfield is more productive running 12 personnel and Stefanski runs it 45% of the time.

                      IIRC, only Philly runs 12 personnel more than any other team in the league.

                      Plus, if it true that DePodesta is running this hiring process and that he was "blown away" by Stefanski last year during the HC search, it really points to Stefanski being the next Browns head coach, but...….

                      I still contend that McDaniels is the Haslams white whale. He's the one that they keep wanting, going all the way back to the Haslam's first HC search. 

                      So will DePodesta's choice FOR THE THIRD TIME be bypassed? 

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                        @canton-dawg said:

                        Word on the street is Jerrah Jones loves him some Mike McCarthy, and has decided to keep him in Big D an additional day.

                        I also agree on hiring Stefanski, Baker Mayfield is more productive running 12 personnel and Stefanski runs it 45% of the time.

                        IIRC, only Philly runs 12 personnel more than any other team in the league.

                        Plus, if it true that DePodesta is running this hiring process and that he was "blown away" by Stefanski last year during the HC search, it really points to Stefanski being the next Browns head coach, but...….

                        I still contend that McDaniels is the Haslams white whale. He's the one that they keep wanting, going all the way back to the Haslam's first HC search. 

                        So will DePodesta's choice FOR THE THIRD TIME be bypassed? 

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                        @dutch-oven said:

                        Plus, if it true that DePodesta is running this hiring process and that he was "blown away" by Stefanski last year during the HC search, it really points to Stefanski being the next Browns head coach, but...….

                        I still contend that McDaniels is the Haslams white whale. He's the one that they keep wanting, going all the way back to the Haslam's first HC search. 

                        So will DePodesta's choice FOR THE THIRD TIME be bypassed? 

                        What Lola wants, Lola gets.   And if Lola (Dee) wants Josh, Lola gets Josh.....if Josh wants Lola.  Of course, Lola better be careful what she asks for, she may get it.

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          Has Depo ever interviewed McDaniels? Doesn't seem like he would have...

                          Also... where did you read about Depo being "blown away"?

                          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                            @canton-dawg said:

                            Word on the street is Jerrah Jones loves him some Mike McCarthy, and has decided to keep him in Big D an additional day.

                            I also agree on hiring Stefanski, Baker Mayfield is more productive running 12 personnel and Stefanski runs it 45% of the time.

                            IIRC, only Philly runs 12 personnel more than any other team in the league.

                            Plus, if it true that DePodesta is running this hiring process and that he was "blown away" by Stefanski last year during the HC search, it really points to Stefanski being the next Browns head coach, but...….

                            I still contend that McDaniels is the Haslams white whale. He's the one that they keep wanting, going all the way back to the Haslam's first HC search. 

                            So will DePodesta's choice FOR THE THIRD TIME be bypassed? 

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                            Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            Plus, if it true that DePodesta is running this hiring process and that he was "blown away" by Stefanski last year during the HC search, it really points to Stefanski being the next Browns head coach, but...….

                            I still contend that McDaniels is the Haslams white whale. He's the one that they keep wanting, going all the way back to the Haslam's first HC search. 

                            So will DePodesta's choice FOR THE THIRD TIME be bypassed? 

                            It’s either a blessing or a curse, but I listen to roughly 10-12 hours each work day devoted to sports radio.

                            There’s been several people with back room chatter in Berea saying that the Haslams really want McDaniels.

                            I hope it’s just conjecture, because I really don’t want Josh as HC of the Browns.

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                              Has Depo ever interviewed McDaniels? Doesn't seem like he would have...

                              Also... where did you read about Depo being "blown away"?

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                              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                              @tour2ma said:

                              Has Depo ever interviewed McDaniels? Doesn't seem like he would have...

                              Also... where did you read about Depo being "blown away"?

                              https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/browns-interviewing-brian-daboll-today-josh-mcdaniels-possibly-monday-and-kevin-stefanski-this-week-to-complete-their-1st-wave-of-interviews.html

                              Actually, Mary Kay said everyone in the front office was blown away by Stefanski.

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                And Stef favors Berry... cool.

                                McD including Scott Pioli on his GM list doesn't thrill me.

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                                  And Stef favors Berry... cool.

                                  McD including Scott Pioli on his GM list doesn't thrill me.

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  And Stef favors Berry... cool.

                                  McD including Scott Pioli on his GM list doesn't thrill me.

                                  Nick Caserini  (or something like that?)

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    Plus, if it true that DePodesta is running this hiring process and that he was "blown away" by Stefanski last year during the HC search, it really points to Stefanski being the next Browns head coach, but...….

                                    I still contend that McDaniels is the Haslams white whale. He's the one that they keep wanting, going all the way back to the Haslam's first HC search. 

                                    So will DePodesta's choice FOR THE THIRD TIME be bypassed? 

                                    What Lola wants, Lola gets.   And if Lola (Dee) wants Josh, Lola gets Josh.....if Josh wants Lola.  Of course, Lola better be careful what she asks for, she may get it.

                                    giphy.gif

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    giphy.gif  Lola? how bout some Lucy?   Picture yourself.. on a boat on a river...

                                    I picture more of this scene... 

                                         Quint/Brody & Hooper.... trying to land the Big Shark named McDaniel...

                                    a) ever heard of this Cleveland baseball player?

                                    b) am very certain, the PBY that saves Quint... was P*aul's B*ig Y*acht   ?       

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                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      And Stef favors Berry... cool.

                                      McD including Scott Pioli on his GM list doesn't thrill me.

                                      Nick Caserini  (or something like that?)

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                                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Nick Caserini  (or something like that?)

                                      Caserio

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                                        And Stef favors Berry... cool.

                                        McD including Scott Pioli on his GM list doesn't thrill me.

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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        And Stef favors Berry... cool.

                                        McD including Scott Pioli on his GM list doesn't thrill me.

                                        You like the analytics guy and don't like the football guy.

                                        In related news, water is wet. ?

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                          lol... well I don't like mediocre (or worse) football guys.

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