The 'Who you watching?' 2020 thread.
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Grant Delpit might be chocolate Hitman Harry. 6'2 203. Kid has the frame to fill out and put on a little more 'good' mass. But when I watch him I see more of that tweener role and less of a pure deep middle man. Although I admit he has solid eye discipline and good range, I just think his footwork needs some serious cleaning up before I make him my secondary general. I wasn't fond of the idea of matching him with Randall, but after watching two games this morning.... I'm warming up to the possibility.
@ 30 seconds is an example I'm talking about the cleaning up footwork in man. He has no business taking that down step on the out action.
But take a peek @ 1:20 when I talk about eye discipline. That's a pretty unenviable spot of reading between the #2 and #3 when both are going vertical. Ideally the backer would have carried down the seam a little more to help his safety out, but Grant sees that, plants his foot and attacks it the whole way. This was against pretty average QB play though. NFL that ball will either be placed further inside, or the QB will attempt to move him off the spot with his eyes and sneak the backside post you see creeping in there. Again, credit to Grant though, he played it about as best as he could.
@ 2:38. Great range, great arm length to disrupt throws and get hands on the ball. No hesitation after he knows what he sees. I like that in my DB's. Trust your eyes.
Finally @ 3:10. Just playing physical down low off the edge in a 33 look. This is the part of his game that I think leads the way at the moment. Kid loves to come down and hit. He's tall, good arm length, good first step when he plants and drives. Like I said, he clearly has a frame that hasn't finished filling out which he'll need at the next level. But I see the tools this year in a few of these cutups that jumped off screen in 2018. I was worried the kid might be Eric Reid, but he appears better in coverage. That said, he's no Jamal Adams downlow, but few safety's are. I see a high ceiling but, god willing at worst, I see a solid football player who won't hurt your team. This kid looks like what many fans wanted Redwine to be.
Grant Delpit might be chocolate Hitman Harry. 6'2 203. Kid has the frame to fill out and put on a little more 'good' mass. But when I watch him I see more of that tweener role and less of a pure deep middle man. Although I admit he has solid eye discipline and good range, I just think his footwork needs some serious cleaning up before I make him my secondary general. I wasn't fond of the idea of matching him with Randall, but after watching two games this morning.... I'm warming up to the possibility.
I see a high ceiling but, god willing at worst, I see a solid football player who won't hurt your team. This kid looks like what many fans wanted Redwine to be.
A few questions...
1. It seems like he's more of a strong safety, yes?
2. What is your feeling on using the #10 overall pick on him? Are you "I'd definitely be on board", "Wouldn't be my first choice" or "A lot of people I would prefer would have to be off the board to justify this"?
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Grant Delpit might be chocolate Hitman Harry. 6'2 203. Kid has the frame to fill out and put on a little more 'good' mass. But when I watch him I see more of that tweener role and less of a pure deep middle man. Although I admit he has solid eye discipline and good range, I just think his footwork needs some serious cleaning up before I make him my secondary general. I wasn't fond of the idea of matching him with Randall, but after watching two games this morning.... I'm warming up to the possibility.
I see a high ceiling but, god willing at worst, I see a solid football player who won't hurt your team. This kid looks like what many fans wanted Redwine to be.
A few questions...
1. It seems like he's more of a strong safety, yes?
2. What is your feeling on using the #10 overall pick on him? Are you "I'd definitely be on board", "Wouldn't be my first choice" or "A lot of people I would prefer would have to be off the board to justify this"?
A few questions...
1. It seems like he's more of a strong safety, yes?
2. What is your feeling on using the #10 overall pick on him? Are you "I'd definitely be on board", "Wouldn't be my first choice" or "A lot of people I would prefer would have to be off the board to justify this"?
1 - I really don't separate the classic 'strong v free' in the modern NFL. At this point I look at skill sets vs usage.
2 - haven't watched enough to make that strong of an opinion yet. Gut feeling? I need OT addressed or the players I want gone before I would consider spending #10 on Delpit. Browns are in prime position for a quality trade down, in all honesty.
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WR Quintez Cephus, Wisconsin.
The kid gave Ohio State tons of trouble in the Big Ten Championship.
WR Quintez Cephus, Wisconsin.
The kid gave Ohio State tons of trouble in the Big Ten Championship.
Cephus is very good. I think he's underrated
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I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
Nico Collins WR Michigan. Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018. 6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.
Malik Harrison LB OSU not the typical highly rated OSU recruit Cbus kid. But developed the last two years. Instinctive. Not a great athlete but makes plays behind the line of scrimmage and in coverage. Played the role of eraser especially last season making up for assignment mistakes of fellow players. Later round steal.
Zack Baun Edge Wisconsin. Perhaps TJ Watt Part 2. Complete player. Find a place for him no matter the scheme. He’s probably going first round especially if he tests well
I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
Nico Collins WR Michigan. Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018. 6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.
Nico last year led the NCAA in contested catch rate by a wide margin. Not sure if he did again this year. Michigan fans hated how infrequently we used him. Our offense could have just been feel, jump balls to Nico but we never fed him. I'm not sure we need a WR, but he is a type of WR we don't really have.
He has yet to declare though. Rumor is he's leaning towards returning, but still a toss up.
DPJ did declare though. He will kill it at the combine but is a different type of WR. I don't think he'd really compliment what we already have.
Michigan does have our LT, LG, C, and RG in the draft. The LT will probably project inside too. I think this is the best chance for the Browns to draft a Wolverine.
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In general, I'll be checking out Tight Ends (cue George Takei: "ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy") because Baker seems to thrive out of 2 TE sets and our TE group is pretty 'eh'.
Seems like a position the Browns could do well on in the mid rounds.
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In general, I'll be checking out Tight Ends (cue George Takei: "ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy") because Baker seems to thrive out of 2 TE sets and our TE group is pretty 'eh'.
Seems like a position the Browns could do well on in the mid rounds.
In general, I'll be checking out Tight Ends (cue George Takei: "ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy") because Baker seems to thrive out of 2 TE sets and our TE group is pretty 'eh'.
Seems like a position the Browns could do well on in the mid rounds.
IF IF IF....Njoku can get over his injuries.....he could be all that. I guess he was in Ferd's doghouse....but who wasn't among the receiving corps. Lets say he does improve...who is to be on the other side of this 2 TE set?
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In general, I'll be checking out Tight Ends (cue George Takei: "ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy") because Baker seems to thrive out of 2 TE sets and our TE group is pretty 'eh'.
Seems like a position the Browns could do well on in the mid rounds.
IF IF IF....Njoku can get over his injuries.....he could be all that. I guess he was in Ferd's doghouse....but who wasn't among the receiving corps. Lets say he does improve...who is to be on the other side of this 2 TE set?
IF IF IF....Njoku can get over his injuries.....he could be all that. I guess he was in Ferd's doghouse....but who wasn't among the receiving corps. Lets say he does improve...who is to be on the other side of this 2 TE set?
Next season will be his last on his rookie contract, so the Browns might want to consider adding in some young talent if they don't intend on giving him a new contract
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IF IF IF....Njoku can get over his injuries.....he could be all that. I guess he was in Ferd's doghouse....but who wasn't among the receiving corps. Lets say he does improve...who is to be on the other side of this 2 TE set?
Next season will be his last on his rookie contract, so the Browns might want to consider adding in some young talent if they don't intend on giving him a new contract
Next season will be his last on his rookie contract, so the Browns might want to consider adding in some young talent if they don't intend on giving him a new contract
Well, one thing I think we know is that if McDaniels is the guy....he knows how to use TEs in his offense.
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No film study here as yet. I usually wait until DraftScout completes it's rankings and that isn't until after the deadline for underclass to declare passes.
As for games... aside from following Buckeye football the only team I've followed whenever possible was WSU... to see Anthony Gordon... my official QB darkhorse. Unfortunately he's not so under the radar any longer. Leading the nation in passing yardage tends to draw some attention.
He's going to end up too expensive for us, but just might be what the Pats need if Bill stays with a conventional QB approach... which I actually think will not be the case. Something tells me that for his next act a Jalen Hurts might be in his future.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
No film study here as yet. I usually wait until DraftScout completes it's rankings and that isn't until after the deadline for underclass to declare passes.
As for games... aside from following Buckeye football the only team I've followed whenever possible was WSU... to see Anthony Gordon... my official QB darkhorse. Unfortunately he's not so under the radar any longer. Leading the nation in passing yardage tends to draw some attention.
He's going to end up too expensive for us, but just might be what the Pats need if Bill stays with a conventional QB approach... which I actually think will not be the case. Something tells me that for his next act a Jalen Hurts might be in his future.
No film study here as yet. I usually wait until DraftScout completes it's rankings and that isn't until after the deadline for underclass to declare passes.
As for games... aside from following Buckeye football the only team I've followed whenever possible was WSU... to see Anthony Gordon... my official QB darkhorse. Unfortunately he's not so under the radar any longer. Leading the nation in passing yardage tends to draw some attention.
He's going to end up too expensive for us, but just might be what the Pats need if Bill stays with a conventional QB approach... which I actually think will not be the case. Something tells me that for his next act a Jalen Hurts might be in his future.
Yeeeeeaaaaahhh... I PM'd you about him about week 5. I was watching a little Pac 12 after dark and couldn't help but like the kid.
As for Hurts; thinking Bill tries his hand at getting his own version of Lamar lite?
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No film study here as yet. I usually wait until DraftScout completes it's rankings and that isn't until after the deadline for underclass to declare passes.
As for games... aside from following Buckeye football the only team I've followed whenever possible was WSU... to see Anthony Gordon... my official QB darkhorse. Unfortunately he's not so under the radar any longer. Leading the nation in passing yardage tends to draw some attention.
He's going to end up too expensive for us, but just might be what the Pats need if Bill stays with a conventional QB approach... which I actually think will not be the case. Something tells me that for his next act a Jalen Hurts might be in his future.
Yeeeeeaaaaahhh... I PM'd you about him about week 5. I was watching a little Pac 12 after dark and couldn't help but like the kid.
As for Hurts; thinking Bill tries his hand at getting his own version of Lamar lite?
As for Hurts; thinking Bill tries his hand at getting his own version of Lamar lite?
Yup... and if not Bill someone will... maybe Roman, if he ends up with an HC gig.
I actually like Hurts' chances. He won't be the elusive runner Lamar is, but he has speed and one-cut ability. Plus he has arm talent and showed at OU that he can pick up a new offense PDQ. It'll take some patience, but should end up worth it.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
In general, I'll be checking out Tight Ends (cue George Takei: "ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy") because Baker seems to thrive out of 2 TE sets and our TE group is pretty 'eh'.
Seems like a position the Browns could do well on in the mid rounds.
IF IF IF....Njoku can get over his injuries.....he could be all that. I guess he was in Ferd's doghouse....but who wasn't among the receiving corps. Lets say he does improve...who is to be on the other side of this 2 TE set?
IF IF IF....Njoku can get over his injuries.....he could be all that. I guess he was in Ferd's doghouse....but who wasn't among the receiving corps. Lets say he does improve...who is to be on the other side of this 2 TE set?
I don’t see Njoku anything more than a rotational piece. Probably worth holding onto not expensive (restricted fa after next season unrestricted in two). He doesn’t do anything well. Way too inconsistent. One of our guys that is good for l a head scratching penalty (we could rid ourselves of handful of guys on our roster that fall into this category).
seals jones did fine in his place more reliable too. this seems to be a position at least in our past scheme that Baker targets a lot.
id prefer an all around stud at this position pass catcher good blocker.
id drop Harris next year.
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As for Hurts; thinking Bill tries his hand at getting his own version of Lamar lite?
Yup... and if not Bill someone will... maybe Roman, if he ends up with an HC gig.
I actually like Hurts' chances. He won't be the elusive runner Lamar is, but he has speed and one-cut ability. Plus he has arm talent and showed at OU that he can pick up a new offense PDQ. It'll take some patience, but should end up worth it.
Yup... and if not Bill someone will... maybe Roman, if he ends up with an HC gig.
I actually like Hurts' chances. He won't be the elusive runner Lamar is, but he has speed and one-cut ability. Plus he has arm talent and showed at OU that he can pick up a new offense PDQ. It'll take some patience, but should end up worth it.
Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.
I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher. He was a weapon today. Probably a great tool for a play caller.
the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon.
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Yup... and if not Bill someone will... maybe Roman, if he ends up with an HC gig.
I actually like Hurts' chances. He won't be the elusive runner Lamar is, but he has speed and one-cut ability. Plus he has arm talent and showed at OU that he can pick up a new offense PDQ. It'll take some patience, but should end up worth it.
Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.
I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher. He was a weapon today. Probably a great tool for a play caller.
the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon.
Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.
I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher. He was a weapon today. Probably a great tool for a play caller.
the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon.
Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.
I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher. He was a weapon today. Probably a great tool for a play caller.
the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon.
Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.
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I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
Nico Collins WR Michigan. Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018. 6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.
Malik Harrison LB OSU not the typical highly rated OSU recruit Cbus kid. But developed the last two years. Instinctive. Not a great athlete but makes plays behind the line of scrimmage and in coverage. Played the role of eraser especially last season making up for assignment mistakes of fellow players. Later round steal.
Zack Baun Edge Wisconsin. Perhaps TJ Watt Part 2. Complete player. Find a place for him no matter the scheme. He’s probably going first round especially if he tests well
I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
Nico Collins WR Michigan. Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018. 6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.
FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.
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I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
Nico Collins WR Michigan. Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018. 6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.
FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.
FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.
Crazy. DPJ should be the one staying IMO.
Nico is NFL ready much like Shaun Wade. I think both are coming back to be the guy and move up the draft boards but both could contribute next Fall on NFL rosters.
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Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.
I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher. He was a weapon today. Probably a great tool for a play caller.
the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon.
Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.
Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.
Yeah I recall him being an older college player too. He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty.
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Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.
Yeah I recall him being an older college player too. He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty.
Yeah I recall him being an older college player too. He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty.
But is he really potentially Drew Brees' replacement, or is this his ceiling? I've heard announcers at least twice say that some think he might be the Saints QB, but there's a huge difference between being a change up to an opposing defense and being the starter.
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Yeah I recall him being an older college player too. He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty.
But is he really potentially Drew Brees' replacement, or is this his ceiling? I've heard announcers at least twice say that some think he might be the Saints QB, but there's a huge difference between being a change up to an opposing defense and being the starter.
But is he really potentially Drew Brees' replacement, or is this his ceiling? I've heard announcers at least twice say that some think he might be the Saints QB, but there's a huge difference between being a change up to an opposing defense and being the starter.
You don’t replace Drew Brees. I don’t see him as that answer.
He has a defined role and the OC is masterful with his use.
but who knows...
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