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  • Word out of WSH  is that they will not be hiring a GM until after the Draft... 😳

    I think they are trying to make us look good.

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    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • It's funny to see how we have our particular playoffs in January.

    Only difference is that the prize is not a ring but a coach that will create some delusional hopes only to fail miserably. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Lovely....but who knows, really.

    @the-gipper said:

    Lovely....but who knows, really.

    Gipper is mad because it's not his thread. Come on who knows about any of this shit??

    WSS

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  • And just before anyone calls me a downer, Daboll, Stefanski and Saleh are a no-no for me. First two haven't done anything, third one has garned some attention only after he has gotten the best front 7 in the league... 

    I don't trust McDaniels as a HC (Broncos, Colts fiascos... He lost my respect there) , but whoever doesn't think he is the best OC in the league has some serious problems. He could do wonders with this offense if someone makes him forget about defense (ala Rams?). The only problem is that Brady has been more mature, clever and hard worker than any QB in the league, and we have for now a cocky commercial kid. 

    McCarthy has got a Superbowl, but I wonder how much of a reason for his dismissal was his relation with Rodgers and having a bad Defensive Coordinator. IIRC he had Capers as a DC and their defense always underperformed. I wouldn’t be enthusiastic or disappointed with him as HC. 

    I don't know anything about any other coach. What I hate the most is seeing other teams getting good head coaches (Frank Reich, Mike Vrabel come to mind) while the Browns keep signing and firing awful ones. 

    S Tour2maT 2 Replies
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  • W Westside Steve

    @the-gipper said:

    Lovely....but who knows, really.

    Gipper is mad because it's not his thread. Come on who knows about any of this shit??

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Gipper is mad because it's not his thread. Come on who knows about any of this shit??

    WSS

    You could post this with the exact same words in almost every other thread and it would always get upvotes. 

    The GipperT 1 Reply
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  •  coaching news from late Sunday.....Dallas owner Jerry Jones cuts ties with HC  *Jason Garrett* with no news on retaining his staff...

    Dallas has interviewed Marvin Lewis, who insist Hue Jackson will be on his Staff.. M.McCarthy has also interviewed... 

    EDit- Bills OC Ryan Daboll comes to Cleveland ToDay for HC interview..

    Am no longer available for interview's returning to my place of employment for first time of 2020.. and late again ?‍♂️.... so play nice😉 !! 

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    And just before anyone calls me a downer, Daboll, Stefanski and Saleh are a no-no for me. First two haven't done anything, third one has garned some attention only after he has gotten the best front 7 in the league... 

    I don't trust McDaniels as a HC (Broncos, Colts fiascos... He lost my respect there) , but whoever doesn't think he is the best OC in the league has some serious problems. He could do wonders with this offense if someone makes him forget about defense (ala Rams?). The only problem is that Brady has been more mature, clever and hard worker than any QB in the league, and we have for now a cocky commercial kid. 

    McCarthy has got a Superbowl, but I wonder how much of a reason for his dismissal was his relation with Rodgers and having a bad Defensive Coordinator. IIRC he had Capers as a DC and their defense always underperformed. I wouldn’t be enthusiastic or disappointed with him as HC. 

    I don't know anything about any other coach. What I hate the most is seeing other teams getting good head coaches (Frank Reich, Mike Vrabel come to mind) while the Browns keep signing and firing awful ones. 

    @nero said:

    And just before anyone calls me a downer, Daboll, Stefanski and Saleh are a no-no for me. First two haven't done anything, third one has garned some attention only after he has gotten the best front 7 in the league... 

    I don't trust McDaniels as a HC (Broncos, Colts fiascos... He lost my respect there) , but whoever doesn't think he is the best OC in the league has some serious problems. He could do wonders with this offense if someone makes him forget about defense (ala Rams?). The only problem is that Brady has been more mature, clever and hard worker than any QB in the league, and we have for now a cocky commercial kid. 

    McCarthy has got a Superbowl, but I wonder how much of a reason for his dismissal was his relation with Rodgers and having a bad Defensive Coordinator. IIRC he had Capers as a DC and their defense always underperformed. I wouldn’t be enthusiastic or disappointed with him as HC. 

    I don't know anything about any other coach. What I hate the most is seeing other teams getting good head coaches (Frank Reich, Mike Vrabel come to mind) while the Browns keep signing and firing awful ones. 

    I’m open to a coordinator but I want a Boss..give me a type A+ that can handle some of our type A+ personalities.  But also the tricky combo of someone going into the job that has perspective - doesn’t think they are preparing every aspect of the gameplan and micromanaging personnel.  
    You uncover this stuff in interviews and background checks.

    The leading coordinator will also have a good team assembled the OC, DC and QB coach being really important. 
     

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Word out of WSH  is that they will not be hiring a GM until after the Draft... 😳

    I think they are trying to make us look good.

    @tour2ma said:

    Word out of WSH  is that they will not be hiring a GM until after the Draft... 😳

    I think they are trying to make us look good.

    Don't they have a guy under contract now?   What is Bruce Allen's title?

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  • W Westside Steve

    @the-gipper said:

    Lovely....but who knows, really.

    Gipper is mad because it's not his thread. Come on who knows about any of this shit??

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Gipper is mad because it's not his thread. Come on who knows about any of this shit??

    WSS

    What the Fuck are you talking about?   Not even sure what you are referencing.   I/we CAN look at the respective resumes of Stefanski and McDaniel and we can tell which has had more success at it.   The only thing one could argue is that:  "Oh, all the success the Pats had with McD as OC is really attributable to   TB and BB, and a potted plant could have done the job that McDaniels did".      Well....I understand that argument. I don't buy it.  The  combined braintrust of Brady and McDaniel has produced a lot of those results.   The facts override the speculation. 

  • NeroN Nero

    @westside-steve said:

    Gipper is mad because it's not his thread. Come on who knows about any of this shit??

    WSS

    You could post this with the exact same words in almost every other thread and it would always get upvotes. 

    @nero said:

    You could post this with the exact same words in almost every other thread and it would always get upvotes. 

    That none of us know shit about any of this stuff?  Certainly....especially you.  You have demonstrated that. 

  • Still in Play?:

    Greg Roman

    Robert Saleh

    Josh McDaniel

    Brian DaBoll

    Urban Meyer (maybe)

    Did I miss anyone?  

    And the answer to a question that was asked:   Only McDaniel has been a HC in the NFL before. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Still in Play?:

    Greg Roman

    Robert Saleh

    Josh McDaniel

    Brian DaBoll

    Urban Meyer (maybe)

    Did I miss anyone?  

    And the answer to a question that was asked:   Only McDaniel has been a HC in the NFL before. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Still in Play?:

    Greg Roman

    Robert Saleh

    Josh McDaniel

    Brian DaBoll

    Urban Meyer (maybe)

    Did I miss anyone?  

    And the answer to a question that was asked:   Only McDaniel has been a HC in the NFL before. 

    Eric Bienimy and an unnamed CFL coach

  • M MDDawg

    @the-gipper said:

    Still in Play?:

    Greg Roman

    Robert Saleh

    Josh McDaniel

    Brian DaBoll

    Urban Meyer (maybe)

    Did I miss anyone?  

    And the answer to a question that was asked:   Only McDaniel has been a HC in the NFL before. 

    Eric Bienimy and an unnamed CFL coach

    @mddawg said:

    Eric Bienimy and an unnamed CFL coach

    Yea, forgot about Bienemy.   And where have you heard about some unnamed CFL coach.....or are you just yanking our chain?

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mddawg said:

    Eric Bienimy and an unnamed CFL coach

    Yea, forgot about Bienemy.   And where have you heard about some unnamed CFL coach.....or are you just yanking our chain?

    @the-gipper said:

    Yea, forgot about Bienemy.   And where have you heard about some unnamed CFL coach.....or are you just yanking our chain?

    I read about a CFL coach yesterday. "They reached out" but apparently hasn't been offered an interview.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    Word out of WSH  is that they will not be hiring a GM until after the Draft... 😳

    I think they are trying to make us look good.

    Don't they have a guy under contract now?   What is Bruce Allen's title?

    @the-gipper said:

    Don't they have a guy under contract now?   What is Bruce Allen's title?

    Washington's Bruce Allen's former title president/ GM he's  fired. 

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  • OK,  I have just heard about another candidate for Browns HC that may surface:

    Recently released Cowboys HC   Jason Garrett.

    That it one I have to think about,  but the TV commentator said that he would be good for Mayfield.  Of course, he is a proven mediocre coach....who is used to having an owner domineer him.   Haslam would in no way be as bad as Jones however in that regard. I wonder if he would thrive more once he is out from under the thumb of Jones. 

    And, by the way...he is a Cleveland guy as well.  From 2d grade he lived in Hunting Valley,   attended University School for high school, Princeton for college. 

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  • McDaniels, Meyer, or Garrett. All extremely experienced in their own unique ways. 
    This is quite the year to find a HC.

    I’ll pass on Stefanski after that Todd Haley style reverse pass to halt the momentum on a playoff drive yesterday against the Saints. Vikings were driving. 1st and 10=loss of 5 yards. Drive killer.

  • CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS

    McDaniels, Meyer, or Garrett. All extremely experienced in their own unique ways. 
    This is quite the year to find a HC.

    I’ll pass on Stefanski after that Todd Haley style reverse pass to halt the momentum on a playoff drive yesterday against the Saints. Vikings were driving. 1st and 10=loss of 5 yards. Drive killer.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    McDaniels, Meyer, or Garrett. All extremely experienced in their own unique ways. 
    This is quite the year to find a HC.

    I’ll pass on Stefanski after that Todd Haley style reverse pass to halt the momentum on a playoff drive yesterday against the Saints. Vikings were driving. 1st and 10=loss of 5 yards. Drive killer.

    Was that a Todd Haley style play.....or a Freddie Kitchens style of play. 

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  • C calfoxwc

    and I suppose the defense didn't have anything to do with the Patriots' superbowls?

    not buyin it. McDaniels' lack of character stands out in his resume.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000915131/article/josh-mcdaniels-withdraws-from-colts-coaching-job

    @calfoxwc said:

    and I suppose the defense didn't have anything to do with the Patriots' superbowls?

    not buyin it. McDaniels' lack of character stands out in his resume.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000915131/article/josh-mcdaniels-withdraws-from-colts-coaching-job

    Cal I know you're big on character- I for one haven't forgotten your continual bashing of Josh Rosen for perceived character flaws. But in defense of McDaniels- Local Guy. FWIW, I don't have a dog in this fight, just pick the right guy for a change Jimmy....  That he flopped as a HC in Denver shouldn't factor into the equation. As Gipper pointed out plenty of fired first time flop head coaches went on to win Super Bowls. Yeah- Josh stiffing the Colts doesn't sit well with me either. 

    "PLAYING

    McDaniels attended John Carroll University, where he played quarterback and wide receiver for the Blue Streaks from 1995-98. McDaniels was a college teammate of former NFL linebacker London Fletcher, Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio, assistant quarterbacks coach Jerry Schuplinski and director of pro personnel Dave Ziegler.

    PERSONAL

    A native of Canton, Ohio, McDaniels is the son of one of the most well-respected high school coaches in the country. Thom McDaniels was a finalist for the NFL High School Coach of the Year award in 2012, and Josh benefited from growing up in a football family."

  • As of 10AM- scratch McCarthy off the list....  Browns were apparently less than thrilled with the interview.....  

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001094867/article/mike-mccarthy-says-hes-signed-to-be-cowboys-hc

    And correct me if I'm wrong- McDaniels is the only serious candidate left out there with previous HC experience. I don't count Starvin' Marvin Lewis as a serious candidate.  

    PS- as Gipper mentioned, now that Garrett is out of a job- he has some Ohio connections. Wonder if the Browns will be interested in interviewing him?   

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