Loudmouth Smith Released!
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I have a reason.
Mangie is not RAC 'n ROLLS and he doesn't find that fat phucker the least bit funny.
So long Boss Man. Thank God, now that STO Show will be watchable again. The geniuses behind that move are not destined for Hollywood fame, i'll tell you that much.
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@shepwrite said:
And for Lump's sake, I'd like to say that this is yet more evidence that this will be Quinn's team.Ka-BLAM!
That was addressed in the comments below the article... one poster theorized that Smith was released in part because Quinn's "skeert" of him. I wouldn't make that leap, but if you say Smith was released because of the QB that's a possibility. I think it was more that others at his position are showing up well and Mangini is happy to rid the team of another loudmouth.
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Some of you are way overrating Smith as a player cuz he is known from his big mouth. This is classic addition by subtraction and he hasn't been doing shit at camp. We already have depth there and if we get hit then we can go get a younger guy with potential rather than a classic fatmouth with no hunger.
He should have been last year, and I actually give Mangie credit for at least taking a look see before showing him how the door can smack that fat ass.
Some of you are way overrating Smith as a player cuz he is known from his big mouth. This is classic addition by subtraction and he hasn't been doing shit at camp.
When Savage and RAC finally put thier sum of brain cells together to realize Ted Washington's best football was about 3 years in the rearview mirror - I found Smith to be a pleasant surpirse for a stretch of games in 2007. THEN, for some reason, I never saw the same guy or the same interest in 2008. We don't need roster plaque like that.
SOMETIMES we tend to look at players for what they DID and cling onto that in lieu of the bigger question: "is this guy showing he's ready to play his best football or at a level we'll need him to be at?"
I like seeing we are at a point where we don't need to let 1 more dickhead holding this team hostage. I'm glad we gave him his ID-10T forms.
- Tom F.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Some of you are way overrating Smith as a player cuz he is known from his big mouth. This is classic addition by subtraction and he hasn't been doing shit at camp. We already have depth there and if we get hit then we can go get a younger guy with potential rather than a classic fatmouth with no hunger.
He should have been last year, and I actually give Mangie credit for at least taking a look see before showing him how the door can smack that fat ass.
Well I live in San Diego and dont get to see him on local TV shows so I have no idea about his big mouth like you guys say. But at the end of the day he is a young version of what we want. He is 27 and had 40 tackles (and injured) last year and 70 the year before. Compared to C.J (who) Mosley who had a whopping 18 in 16 games.
Now I know that tackles dont have everything to do with the 3-4 scheme but geez all Smith has to do is fall over and he would eat up a defender or 2.
I think at 27 and his price he was a good rotation player. Not to mention if we get a injury. Good Depth cheap price. JMO......
Good Depth cheap price. JMO......
You sure he came cheap? I have no idea how to look up salaries, but I think for a bench guy he was a tad overpriced.
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Some of you are way overrating Smith as a player cuz he is known from his big mouth. This is classic addition by subtraction and he hasn't been doing shit at camp.
When Savage and RAC finally put thier sum of brain cells together to realize Ted Washington's best football was about 3 years in the rearview mirror - I found Smith to be a pleasant surpirse for a stretch of games in 2007. THEN, for some reason, I never saw the same guy or the same interest in 2008. We don't need roster plaque like that.
SOMETIMES we tend to look at players for what they DID and cling onto that in lieu of the bigger question: "is this guy showing he's ready to play his best football or at a level we'll need him to be at?"
I like seeing we are at a point where we don't need to let 1 more dickhead holding this team hostage. I'm glad we gave him his ID-10T forms.
- Tom F.
When Savage and RAC finally put thier sum of brain cells together to realize Ted Washington's best football was about 3 years in the rearview mirror - I found Smith to be a pleasant surpirse for a stretch of games in 2007. THEN, for some reason, I never saw the same guy or the same interest in 2008. We don't need roster plaque like that.
SOMETIMES we tend to look at players for what they DID and cling onto that in lieu of the bigger question: "is this guy showing he's ready to play his best football or at a level we'll need him to be at?"
I like seeing where at a point where we don't need to let 1 more dickhead holding this team hostage. I'm glad we gave him his ID-10T forms.
- Tom F.
Speaking Teddy Fatgame, I'll take his surly and pissed off approach over the Team Jester that was Goofy Ass. If I'm going to have my choice of two fat guys that can't play, I'll take the one that doesn't think he's Biggie Smalls at a Comedy Show.
PS This has nothing to do with Queen folks, it's strictly about football and character.
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Good Depth cheap price. JMO......
You sure he came cheap? I have no idea how to look up salaries, but I think for a bench guy he was a tad overpriced.
You sure he came cheap? I have no idea how to look up salaries, but I think for a bench guy he was a tad overpriced.
I have no idea how to look that up either. But if I remember correctly it was like 4 years 8 million and I think alot of it was on the front end because the Bengals had to match the offer.
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I said this guy sucked last year when everybody said his "attitude" brought something our defense needed.
You want attitude then get a real leader, a Dawkins type player. Not a loud math fatfart. Only good thing he ever did for this team was punch Quinn in the face for holding out.
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"I like seeing where at a point where we don't need to let 1 more dickhead holding this team hostage."
And how was he holding us hostage? He is a backup that provided decent depth. Its not like is making Shaun Rogers money or C. Williams.
Matter of fact C. Williams is holding this team hostage after that bigtime contract he signed and we gave up a 2nd round for him to be our backup.
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When Savage and RAC finally put thier sum of brain cells together to realize Ted Washington's best football was about 3 years in the rearview mirror - I found Smith to be a pleasant surpirse for a stretch of games in 2007. THEN, for some reason, I never saw the same guy or the same interest in 2008. We don't need roster plaque like that.
SOMETIMES we tend to look at players for what they DID and cling onto that in lieu of the bigger question: "is this guy showing he's ready to play his best football or at a level we'll need him to be at?"
I like seeing where at a point where we don't need to let 1 more dickhead holding this team hostage. I'm glad we gave him his ID-10T forms.
- Tom F.
Speaking Teddy Fatgame, I'll take his surly and pissed off approach over the Team Jester that was Goofy Ass. If I'm going to have my choice of two fat guys that can't play, I'll take the one that doesn't think he's Biggie Smalls at a Comedy Show.
PS This has nothing to do with Queen folks, it's strictly about football and character.
PS This has nothing to do with Queen folks, it's strictly about football and character.
The first thing that comes to mind when I hear Queen is "We Are the Champions" while Loverboy can only hold his breath as he watches another 10-6 loss to the tune of "Another One Bites the Dust."
And folks, if you can say Quinn without HEARING win - I'll buy a Dumb Ass jersey and have it written on the upperback so you can autograph it before we toast marshmallows over it.
They re-did the Pythagorean Theorem at Oregon State. A2 + B2 now = ABBA. Loverboy became Derek Anderson's Dancing Queen at their last Homecoming celebration.
- Tom F. (BTW, Have I told you all how special Quinn is? He's really something!)
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Cleveland Browns release defensive lineman Shaun Smith
by By Mary Kay Cabot
Saturday August 08, 2009, 9:58 AM
Updated 2:05 p.m.
Browns outspoken defensive lineman Shaun Smith, who clashed with defensive line coach Bryan Cox on Friday, was released Saturday morning, a source told the Plain Dealer.
Browns coach Eric Mangini confirmed the move, which was first reported on cleveland.com. He said he made it to clear a roster spot for another unnamed player.
Mangini said Smith "did a good job when he was here'' despite the fact he had a reputation for being too outspoken during practices and games. Mangini also declined to say whether or not Smith's run-in with quarterback Brady Quinn in December was a factor in the decision. Smith reportedly punched Quinn in the face during a weight-room spat.
But the signs were there during Friday evening's practice that something was amiss with Smith.
While the rest of the linemen were jogging to another field for position drills, Smith walked and lagged far behind.
"Come on, dog, you're walking on me," said the tough-nosed Cox.
Smith half-heartedly joined the others, but seemed reluctant to participate in the drills, which involved two lineman squaring off to practice hand- and footwork. At one point, Cox, noticing that Smith wasn't participating, said, "If you've got a problem, if there's something wrong with your back, you need to go get some treatment.''
Cox motioned a trainer over to check on Smith, but he waved him off and joined the drills. Some of his friends, including Robaire Smith, who was having fun in the drill going up against Shaun Rogers, talked to Smith a little on the side.
Smith told a source that he didn't do anything wrong and has no idea why he was released. In June, a source told the Plain Dealer that defensive coaches had told Smith to "shape up and shut up'' so he was already apparently on thin ice.
A versatile lineman who started 19 of his 26 games with the Browns over the past two seasons, Smith played both defensive end and backup nosetackle behind Rogers.
With Smith gone, second-year lineman Ahtyba Rubin, the Browns' sixth-round pick in 2008 out of Iowa State, will most likely see more action behind Rogers and in the line rotation.
"I really like Rubin,'' said Mangini. "Rubin is just a consistent guy. He comes in, works like crazy, is stout against the run, and has really improved his hand placement. I like all the things I've seen from him.''
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Riffer, I'd be interested to hear why you have such distain for Smith.... Seems it might be something personal...
Also, it was a nice thread, sort of a change of pace, until all the Quinn pimping began...
I realize that you and Flugs are on the Quinn bandwagon but how does the release of a Defensive lineman morph into a Quinn festival???????
Just wondering...
Peace
T.Dawg
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Some of you are way overrating Smith as a player cuz he is known from his big mouth. This is classic addition by subtraction and he hasn't been doing shit at camp. We already have depth there and if we get hit then we can go get a younger guy with potential rather than a classic fatmouth with no hunger.
He should have been last year, and I actually give Mangie credit for at least taking a look see before showing him how the door can smack that fat ass.
Well I live in San Diego and dont get to see him on local TV shows so I have no idea about his big mouth like you guys say. But at the end of the day he is a young version of what we want. He is 27 and had 40 tackles (and injured) last year and 70 the year before. Compared to C.J (who) Mosley who had a whopping 18 in 16 games.
Now I know that tackles dont have everything to do with the 3-4 scheme but geez all Smith has to do is fall over and he would eat up a defender or 2.
I think at 27 and his price he was a good rotation player. Not to mention if we get a injury. Good Depth cheap price. JMO......
Well I live in San Diego and dont get to see him on local TV shows so I have no idea about his big mouth like you guys say. But at the end of the day he is a young version of what we want. He is 27 and had 40 tackles (and injured) last year and 70 the year before. Compared to C.J (who) Mosley who had a whopping 18 in 16 games.
Now I know that tackles dont have everything to do with the 3-4 scheme but geez all Smith has to do is fall over and he would eat up a defender or 2.
I think at 27 and his price he was a good rotation player. Not to mention if we get a injury. Good Depth cheap price. JMO......
According to Daryl Ruiter at ESPN 850, apparently there was a verbal confrontation yesterday between Smith and Defensive Line Coach Brian Cox. Something to do with Smith half-assing his way through drills... then being less than receptive to the criticism. Evidently, Mr. Smith was dismissive and disrespectful.
This was described as a "last straw" situation.
-jj
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A shining example of another high-paid athlete who just doesn't get it.
Everyone else is jogging to the next station and going through drills with everything they have. What makes Smith different? And then when his coach calls him out for it, he feels he's above that type of stuff so he spouts off. Apparently Smith didn't get the memo that Eric Mangini is running this team now.
Tell me, who would want to work/play next to this guy, let alone coach him?
How can anyone here criticize this move? Are you serious? Name two good things this guy did since he got here and I'll come back at you with about a dozen bad things.
Let him go back to Cincy and give Starvin' Marvin more headaches. Meanwhile, let's work with the guys that want to get it done here.
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Great move by the Browns. This guy is a poverty man's Terrell Owens who thinks this is all about him. They even gave him a shot to get his shit together and he proved he is too immature to do it.
Smith's scenario is very simple: He came here from the Bungles as a great pickup at the time----looked like a guy who was a steal at a source of need. He played okay at first but nothing spectacular, however, he seemed to think he was All Pro material. AT that point STO gave him a gig as basically the team spokesman, and since he's a dumb and emotional moron, he took that as meaning he was actually a great player who WAS the Cleveland Browns.
RAC 'n ROLLS let him go unabated, and anybody that was at camp last year saw how stupid he was getting during stretching or anything else. Then, his play on the field translated to Ethan Kelley, but not quite as good. New regime takes over and decides to talk to the kid and let them know what they expect of a professional making some decent coin and 28 years old. Smith plays the game for a second then decides somebody tugged on a pubic hair and goes"how dare they", hence he is shown the door because this is a pro franchise that is going to do things right.
This is a good thing guys, shows these guys mean business.
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TheJokersWILD said:
At first I was worried if Rubin goes down with an injury but we have Louis Leonard. Who would you rather have Leonard or Smith?I rather have Louis Leonard. No, seriously! 🥷
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Louis Leonard is a forgotten man a lot who is very versatile, young and hungry---and makes way less money.
Trust me folks, if Smith was a decent player they would have tried to get him right but as it stands they at least tried.
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Great resume fodder for Smith in this thread.
Add his to the time he was cut by the Saints for being caught stuffing his fat face in the Georgia Dome's press room and you can now say goodbye career. At least until the shit-eating Donkeys call him for a workout.
mz. said:
Great resume fodder for Smith in this thread.Add his to the time he was cut by the Saints for being caught stuffing his fat face in the Georgia Dome's press room and you can now say goodbye career. At least until the shit-eating Donkeys call him for a workout.
Nah, it must be something personal.
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Louis Leonard is a forgotten man a lot who is very versatile, young and hungry---and makes way less money.
Trust me folks, if Smith was a decent player they would have tried to get him right but as it stands they at least tried.
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