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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    I'm sorry, but IS THIS STILL 'MERICA?

    We speak one language round these parts, and it is 'MERICAN.

    You sissy boys talkin' about other people and cultures like there's any other places in the world worth a shit like 'MERICA. There ain't. 

    'MERICA, FUCK YEAH!

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm sorry, but IS THIS STILL 'MERICA?

    We speak one language round these parts, and it is 'MERICAN.

    You sissy boys talkin' about other people and cultures like there's any other places in the world worth a shit like 'MERICA. There ain't. 

    'MERICA, FUCK YEAH!

    This explains a lot

    NeroN Dutch OvenD DieHardBrownsFanD 3 Replies

  • McDaniels interviews tomorrow. He brings a winning tradition & a knowledge of how a successful franchise is run...IF he pushes the issue & IF the Haslams would listen, learn, & change accordingly, that could be a great thing.

    To this point, my favorite is Saleh.....we'll see what happens.

    No matter how things end up, I'm still (as always) a Browns' Fan.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
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  • Schwartz is a little more 'old school'.  -  experienced

    Dabol is supposedly a yeller.  He'll give you the ol' yell at.  -  Experienced coordinator

    Stefanski, supposedly not the yeller type.  -  not so experienced

    Saleh - not so experienced

    Bienemy - not so experienced

    Roman - Experienced coordinator

    McDaniels - experienced  -  been part of the Patriots magic  -  traded up to draft Tim Tebow in round 1  (that's gotta be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen done -  would fit right in with our 21st century Browns)

    ----------------   Roman, perhaps?  

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
  • L LondonBrown

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm sorry, but IS THIS STILL 'MERICA?

    We speak one language round these parts, and it is 'MERICAN.

    You sissy boys talkin' about other people and cultures like there's any other places in the world worth a shit like 'MERICA. There ain't. 

    'MERICA, FUCK YEAH!

    This explains a lot

    @londonbrown said:

    This explains a lot

    Come on, tell me you got the sarcasm. 

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  • I tried to separate this by one Question..." do i want my HC to be a CEO type? or Calling Plays?"

    Oddly, of 8 teams left in playoffs it seems to split at 4 a piece..Ravens/Tenn./Seattle/ use the CEO coach approach..Packers with Rogers, ain't Baker seeing the field right now & O'Brien at Houston i think calls the offensive plays?

    Riverboat Ron has done both, but is going with CEO approach at Redskins. 2 cords..

    Rhule & Judge have spoken to also take the CEO approach hiring both cords

    Clearly we have seen 2 coaches lose their jobs here calling offensive plays.. And  1 D cord lose his job trusting his job with his buddy named O'Neil calling defensive plays..and a Farmer with no WR plan, but with a texting phone plan

    Seems fairly simple..a) who can get us the best staff to play to our core players strength? while,  b) best position staff, coaching techniques to *not* see guys leaving here to do so ..   

    What dirty up'd split path do we take this time? stay tuned ? 

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    If your lucky enough to be given a heartbeat? Being Blessed is what you make of it... moving on

    @louisville-slugger said:

    Why didnt Kubiak get an interview? Is he not interested in a head coaching position because he is obviously the best coach out there. 

    If any team knows Kubiak's future plans? It should be Our Odd Squad hiring crew... IF* they ask the right questions? Coaching staff Candidates? The Squad should have Kubiak surrounded?

    1)We were the only team to interview Saleh..Kub gave him his first real chance at Houston.. 

    2) Stefanski works with the guy side by side.. this from camp https://vikings.com/news/kubiak-enjoying-different-role-with-vikings-impressed-by-stefanski-cousins   

    A) Gary's health conditions was Migraines missing time at coaching in Denver.. imho, Gary & Family are just as happy with Gary, coaching with his Son, who is a asst. OL coach at Vikings.. 

    I got to hope somewhere in 2 seperate interviews, Kubiak's name was tossed around.. per link, Even Kub speaks highly of Stefanski ...  

    ..    

    @gumby73 said:

    If your lucky enough to be given a heartbeat? Being Blessed is what you make of it... moving on

    If any team knows Kubiak's future plans? It should be Our Odd Squad hiring crew... IF* they ask the right questions? Coaching staff Candidates? The Squad should have Kubiak surrounded?

    1)We were the only team to interview Saleh..Kub gave him his first real chance at Houston.. 

    2) Stefanski works with the guy side by side.. this from camp https://vikings.com/news/kubiak-enjoying-different-role-with-vikings-impressed-by-stefanski-cousins   

    A) Gary's health conditions was Migraines missing time at coaching in Denver.. imho, Gary & Family are just as happy with Gary, coaching with his Son, who is a asst. OL coach at Vikings.. 

    I got to hope somewhere in 2 seperate interviews, Kubiak's name was tossed around.. per link, Even Kub speaks highly of Stefanski ...  

    ..    

    Bring them as a group dammit. That would be the smart move, but the Browns don't do that so tee up the football Lucy. Charlie Browns are ready, willing and able.?

  •  Here is something I heard today. It was stated that if they search for a general manager they must comply with the Rooney rule. However if they term that position as a director of player personnel the Rooney rule does not apply. So let’s see the hire  McDaniels and he wants to bring in Caserio If they call Caserio A GM they must interview minorities for the position. But if they just call him this DPP they would not have to do that.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

     Here is something I heard today. It was stated that if they search for a general manager they must comply with the Rooney rule. However if they term that position as a director of player personnel the Rooney rule does not apply. So let’s see the hire  McDaniels and he wants to bring in Caserio If they call Caserio A GM they must interview minorities for the position. But if they just call him this DPP they would not have to do that.

    @the-gipper said:

     Here is something I heard today. It was stated that if they search for a general manager they must comply with the Rooney rule. However if they term that position as a director of player personnel the Rooney rule does not apply. So let’s see the hire  McDaniels and he wants to bring in Caserio If they call Caserio A GM they must interview minorities for the position. But if they just call him this DPP they would not have to do that.

    So where's the minority candidates qualified to be a GM?  LOL, interview Sashi? See if we could coax Ozzie out of retirement?  Hey Ozzie, want to be the Browns GM? Sorry I'm retired. Does that count as an interview?  

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @the-gipper said:

     Here is something I heard today. It was stated that if they search for a general manager they must comply with the Rooney rule. However if they term that position as a director of player personnel the Rooney rule does not apply. So let’s see the hire  McDaniels and he wants to bring in Caserio If they call Caserio A GM they must interview minorities for the position. But if they just call him this DPP they would not have to do that.

    So where's the minority candidates qualified to be a GM?  LOL, interview Sashi? See if we could coax Ozzie out of retirement?  Hey Ozzie, want to be the Browns GM? Sorry I'm retired. Does that count as an interview?  

    @hoorta said:

    So where's the minority candidates qualified to be a GM?  LOL, interview Sashi? See if we could coax Ozzie out of retirement?  Hey Ozzie, want to be the Browns GM? Sorry I'm retired. Does that count as an interview?  

    Andrew Berry?

    He is VP of Football Operations in Philly.    Would GM be an advance for him....or a lateral move.  In fact, has he not already interviewed with the Browns? 

    I think the point is....if they want to bring in the team of McDaniel/Caserio.....and not be forced to consider others...then either they have to give Caserio what is in theory a subordinate title.....or have gone through the Rooney Rule, which would have been satisfied with talking to Berry.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @hoorta said:

    So where's the minority candidates qualified to be a GM?  LOL, interview Sashi? See if we could coax Ozzie out of retirement?  Hey Ozzie, want to be the Browns GM? Sorry I'm retired. Does that count as an interview?  

    Andrew Berry?

    He is VP of Football Operations in Philly.    Would GM be an advance for him....or a lateral move.  In fact, has he not already interviewed with the Browns? 

    I think the point is....if they want to bring in the team of McDaniel/Caserio.....and not be forced to consider others...then either they have to give Caserio what is in theory a subordinate title.....or have gone through the Rooney Rule, which would have been satisfied with talking to Berry.

    @the-gipper said:

    Andrew Berry?

    He is VP of Football Operations in Philly.    Would GM be an advance for him....or a lateral move.  In fact, has he not already interviewed with the Browns? 

    I think the point is....if they want to bring in the team of McDaniel/Caserio.....and not be forced to consider others...then either they have to give Caserio what is in theory a subordinate title.....or have gone through the Rooney Rule, which would have been satisfied with talking to Berry.

    Thanks Gipper. I totally forgot about Andy. They could certainly interview him- without offering him the position.... I believe interviewing him for GM is considered a promotion.... Question is- if it's McDaniels, would he want him?  

  • PTI had an interesting segment with Tony Dungy ( 1/10/20) who said he receives calls from (clueless) owners all the time requesting advice on their next coach. He'll ask them what type of coach are they looking for young, old, disciplinarian etc and the reply: "just a good one". His point is that only a few teams are football business teams that have a vision of their coach, for others (like us) it's just the latest trend (Kitchens) until they stumble onto one. Hate them but the Steelers and Ravens are two examples of teams with an overall vision.

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  • M MDDawg

    PTI had an interesting segment with Tony Dungy ( 1/10/20) who said he receives calls from (clueless) owners all the time requesting advice on their next coach. He'll ask them what type of coach are they looking for young, old, disciplinarian etc and the reply: "just a good one". His point is that only a few teams are football business teams that have a vision of their coach, for others (like us) it's just the latest trend (Kitchens) until they stumble onto one. Hate them but the Steelers and Ravens are two examples of teams with an overall vision.

    @mddawg said:

    PTI had an interesting segment with Tony Dungy ( 1/10/20) who said he receives calls from (clueless) owners all the time requesting advice on their next coach. He'll ask them what type of coach are they looking for young, old, disciplinarian etc and the reply: "just a good one". His point is that only a few teams are football business teams that have a vision of their coach, for others (like us) it's just the latest trend (Kitchens) until they stumble onto one. Hate them but the Steelers and Ravens are two examples of teams with an overall vision.

    If I thought the Browns had a long term plan or vision that they would stick with I would feel a lot better. 

  • gumby73G gumby73

    Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed

    #1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy   *HIRED- Dallas*

    #2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman lost to Titans as #1 seed 1-11-20  

    #3.Eric Bieniemy  (KC OC)  https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy        

    #4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh Won vs. Wildcard Vikings 1-11-20

    #5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll  McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)

    #6. Jim Schwartz (Philly DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-jim-schwartz  1 day before interview, Rhule to Panthers/ NYG hire J.Judge

    #7. Kevin Stefanski (OC Vikings) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski Lost at San Fran as Wildcard 1-11-20  *BROWNS HIRE* 1-12-20

    #8. Josh McDaniels (OC Patriots) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-josh-mcdaniels Interviewed 7 hrs. with no deal 1-10-20            

     Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending(Thursday 1-9-20 in Minn.) ..

    Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)>>Friday 1-10-20..Pats. Exit meetings till Weds..was to interview at Panthers Weds 1-8-20..was to interview at NYG Thursday 1-9-20..interviewed at nether due to both teams hiring coaches Tuesday 1-7-20 

    GM interviews start on 1-17-20..   

    #1.Philly's Andrew Berry & #2) Patriots Monti Ossenfort interviewed on a Friday..(neither hired as of 1-19-20)

    #3.George Paton (Asst.GM Vikings) interviewed in Minnesota Sunday 1-19-20// a 2nd interview in Cleveland Wednesday

    1-22-20.. Edit: George Paton removes himself as a GM candidate on Friday 1-24-20 ?..

    Berry a day before interview announces he is also a candidate for Panthers GM job.

    **#1 Hired..on 1-28-20 Andrew Berry inks 5 year deal as VP of football Operations & GM** Berry's first day on the job brings a hiring of a FB off Vikings IR release list.

    Berry's 2nd day on job, brings Eliot Wolf/asst gm & Alonzo Highsmith/VP PP & head of College Scouting to their jobs endings..All parties claim to disagree with the future analynic path..3 of the parties agree on Stepping Down..   

    COACHING STAFF HIRES

    #1) Chad O'Shea.. Former Dolphins OC becomes Browns WR Coach on 1-19-20

    1-22-20 Stefanski announces he will retain 3 coaches from previous staff

    #2) Mike Priefer ST #3) ST Asst.-Doug Colman

    #4) RB's- Stump Mitchell

    #5. 1 year Former Vikings WR coach Drew Petzing becomes Browns TE Coach ? (browns intern 2013..At Vikings, held 4 different coaching positions in 4 years)

    @gumby73 said:

    Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed

    #1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy   

    #2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman   

    #3.Eric Bieniemy  (KC OC)  https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy        

    #4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh 

    #5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll  McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)

    #6. Jim Schwartz (Philly DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-jim-schwartz  1 day before interview, Rhule to Panthers/ NYG hire J.Judge

    #7. Kevin Stefanski (OC Vikings) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski 

    #8. Josh McDaniels (OC Patriots) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-josh-mcdaniels            

     Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending(Thursday 1-9-20 in Minn.) ..

    Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)>>Friday 1-10-20..Pats. Exit meetings till Weds..was to interview at Panthers Weds 1-8-20..was to interview at NYG Thursday 1-9-20..interviewed at nether due to both teams hiring coaches Tuesday 1-7-20 

    And than there were 8 confirmed HC's interviewed for Browns vacancy...Will the final coaching decision come after the Vikings vs 49'ers outcome? Go 49'ers!!    

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    @gumby73 said:

    Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed

    #1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy   

    #2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman   

    #3.Eric Bieniemy  (KC OC)  https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy        

    #4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh 

    #5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll  McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)

    #6. Jim Schwartz (Philly DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-jim-schwartz  1 day before interview, Rhule to Panthers/ NYG hire J.Judge

    #7. Kevin Stefanski (OC Vikings) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski 

    #8. Josh McDaniels (OC Patriots) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-josh-mcdaniels            

     Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending(Thursday 1-9-20 in Minn.) ..

    Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)>>Friday 1-10-20..Pats. Exit meetings till Weds..was to interview at Panthers Weds 1-8-20..was to interview at NYG Thursday 1-9-20..interviewed at nether due to both teams hiring coaches Tuesday 1-7-20 

    And than there were 8 confirmed HC's interviewed for Browns vacancy...Will the final coaching decision come after the Vikings vs 49'ers outcome? Go 49'ers!!    

    @gumby73 said:

    And than there were 8 confirmed HC's interviewed for Browns vacancy...Will the final coaching decision come after the Vikings vs 49'ers outcome? Go 49'ers!!    

    Why....unless you like the 49ers...and who here cares about them.....or, if you want Stefanski.  Then I guess he would be free after that game.

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  • Would it surprise anyone if  Haslam pulls this choice straight out of his ass....and goes with like DaBoll or Schwartz?  (and yes, it is my belief that either of them would be straight out of the ass picks)

    One condition though if they do hire McDaniels:   NO fucking visors.  Those are for the golf course or a beach.   I would rather see him wear a fedora:

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gumby73 said:

    And than there were 8 confirmed HC's interviewed for Browns vacancy...Will the final coaching decision come after the Vikings vs 49'ers outcome? Go 49'ers!!    

    Why....unless you like the 49ers...and who here cares about them.....or, if you want Stefanski.  Then I guess he would be free after that game.

    @the-gipper said:

    Why....unless you like the 49ers...and who here cares about them.....or, if you want Stefanski.  Then I guess he would be free after that game.

     we've wrote a book here about what bad football looks like since 99..but i also know Kyle Shanahan should be in the running for COTY... it's ok in my book...I'll also play fan here, while the insiders in the room hire a coach.. I just want to wake up to more winning Mondays just like the rest of us.. If*** of the spoken 3? yes I'd prefer Stefanski....and it's time to get busy on a staff (Kubiak, Wade Phillips, Phiefer?) & a GM (Peyton Manning😉)... (strike up Rocky Top or Rocky Mountain Way? ? we need more wins)

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  • L LondonBrown

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm sorry, but IS THIS STILL 'MERICA?

    We speak one language round these parts, and it is 'MERICAN.

    You sissy boys talkin' about other people and cultures like there's any other places in the world worth a shit like 'MERICA. There ain't. 

    'MERICA, FUCK YEAH!

    This explains a lot

    @londonbrown said:

    'This explains a lot

    That you're a dipshit that doesn't understand sarcasm?

    Then yes, it does.

  • The fact that McDaniel's hire wasn't announced today, makes it unlikely that he's Haslam's choice. Your wife accompanies you if you're expecting an offer. Let's watch the Browns coaching bowl tomorrow aka 49ers v Vikings.

    OrionO The GipperT 2 Replies
  • L LondonBrown

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm sorry, but IS THIS STILL 'MERICA?

    We speak one language round these parts, and it is 'MERICAN.

    You sissy boys talkin' about other people and cultures like there's any other places in the world worth a shit like 'MERICA. There ain't. 

    'MERICA, FUCK YEAH!

    This explains a lot

    @londonbrown said:

    This explains a lot

    It explains a hell of a lot, lmao.  Right on London.?

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @londonbrown said:

    This explains a lot

    It explains a hell of a lot, lmao.  Right on London.?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    It explains a hell of a lot, lmao.  Right on London.?

    How both of your snowflake feelings were hurt so bad on here that both of you stormed off this board telling everyone you quit, but both came back with your tails between your legs? 

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