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  • 1st and ten to open the game:  run for short game

    2nd and long:  run for short game

    Far far too much running on 1st and 2nd down.  He's had a pretty decent qb and this 'ground and pound' approach is anti-analytics and a losing strategy.  Running Dalvin cook like 36 times for not even 3 yards per carry almost cost them the saints game. 

    If a guy cannot understand that running the ball on 1st and 2nd down in the nfl early in games(blowouts are different) is not a good strategy relative to passing.....well, that's a problem. 

    And don't cite what Baltimore is doing.  A large portion of those aren't traditional runs but ultra efficient qb runs, and another large portion of them are after the game is already a blowout.  They actually run the ball with traditional running plays in the first half less than most teams, which is a key to maximizing their success.

    Chubb is a fine back, but in the current NFL(and probably the former nfl, teams were just dumb) you don't win by running the ball.  Teams that run a ton in a game have a good record, but that has nothing to do with causative factor.  I don't know that stefansky fully understands this

    @tacosman said:

    1st and ten to open the game:  run for short game

    2nd and long:  run for short game

    So your extensive NFL background which consists of collecting football cards - you would have put everything on Kirk Cousins instad of the RB (Dalvin Cook) that carried that team? 

    The main concerns I have about Stefanski is the team that employed him rarely trusted him enough for total empowerment.  I posted his background in Minnesota which showed how many years he worked as an Assistant QB Coach.  This year, they had to bring in Gary Kubiak to bail him out of the chaos that took place early on this season.  I'm having difficulty seeing how this equates to Stefanski being the leader of men for all 3 phases of the game in Cleveland. 

    None of that matters if Dee Haslam thinks the guy is gorgeous! 

  • @tacosman said:

    1st and ten to open the game:  run for short game

    2nd and long:  run for short game

    So your extensive NFL background which consists of collecting football cards - you would have put everything on Kirk Cousins instad of the RB (Dalvin Cook) that carried that team? 

    The main concerns I have about Stefanski is the team that employed him rarely trusted him enough for total empowerment.  I posted his background in Minnesota which showed how many years he worked as an Assistant QB Coach.  This year, they had to bring in Gary Kubiak to bail him out of the chaos that took place early on this season.  I'm having difficulty seeing how this equates to Stefanski being the leader of men for all 3 phases of the game in Cleveland. 

    None of that matters if Dee Haslam thinks the guy is gorgeous! 

    @flugel said:

    So your extensive NFL background which consists of collecting football cards - you would have put everything on Kirk Cousins instad of the RB (Dalvin Cook) that carried that team? 

    The main concerns I have about Stefanski is the team that employed him rarely trusted him enough for total empowerment.  I posted his background in Minnesota which showed how many years he worked as an Assistant QB Coach.  This year, they had to bring in Gary Kubiak to bail him out of the chaos that took place early on this season.  I'm having difficulty seeing how this equates to Stefanski being the leader of men for all 3 phases of the game in Cleveland. 

    None of that matters if Dee Haslam thinks the guy is gorgeous! 

    Dee and Jimmy could fuck up a wet dream without trying all that hard lol 🙂

  • So...

  • So...

    @mld-woody said:

    So...

    A needle pulling threaaaad!

  • The only thing I like about the Stefanski hire is Taco posting this thread less tham 24h before it. 

  • @richiswhere said:

    So your saying they will be taking a 2nd look at Stefanski?

    I think he is saying that  in a one on one death match between those 2 in the game that happened today,   Saleh  put the sleeper hold on Stefanski.  Until the mid 4th quarter when the game was decided, the Vikes did not even have 100 total yards. 

    @the-gipper said:

    I think he is saying that  in a one on one death match between those 2 in the game that happened today,   Saleh  put the sleeper hold on Stefanski.  Until the mid 4th quarter when the game was decided, the Vikes did not even have 100 total yards. 

    You can interpret it anyway you like i'm just telling you what i have seen. Do you hire the guy that went 5 and 3 and had the team play as good as it has in a long time or do you hire a nobody.  Do you hire the guy that put the "sleeper" hold on or do you hire the guy that got put in the "sleeper" hold?

  • @the-gipper said:

    I think he is saying that  in a one on one death match between those 2 in the game that happened today,   Saleh  put the sleeper hold on Stefanski.  Until the mid 4th quarter when the game was decided, the Vikes did not even have 100 total yards. 

    You can interpret it anyway you like i'm just telling you what i have seen. Do you hire the guy that went 5 and 3 and had the team play as good as it has in a long time or do you hire a nobody.  Do you hire the guy that put the "sleeper" hold on or do you hire the guy that got put in the "sleeper" hold?

    @richiswhere said:

    You can interpret it anyway you like i'm just telling you what i have seen. Do you hire the guy that went 5 and 3 and had the team play as good as it has in a long time or do you hire a nobody.  Do you hire the guy that put the "sleeper" hold on or do you hire the guy that got put in the "sleeper" hold?

    Yea, I don't think I follow you.   I would have thought that  you would have chosen the python that swallowed the deer , instead of hiring the deer. 

    .

  • The only thing I like about the Stefanski hire is Taco posting this thread less tham 24h before it. 

    @nero said:

    The only thing I like about the Stefanski hire is Taco posting this thread less tham 24h before it. 

    ? Post of the thread Nero! 

  • I just can't wrap my head around hiring a CO-offensive coordinator with one season experience as a head coach, right after the debacle of hiring an OC with little experience who completely bombed out. 

    Maybe that isn't fair, Stefanski is Stefanski and Kitchens is Kitchens, but man, that's a ballsy move if Haslam does it. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I just can't wrap my head around hiring a CO-offensive coordinator with one season experience as a head coach, right after the debacle of hiring an OC with little experience who completely bombed out. 

    Maybe that isn't fair, Stefanski is Stefanski and Kitchens is Kitchens, but man, that's a ballsy move if Haslam does it. 

    Nah it's more like if this coach flops, Jimmy  can fire DePodesta for screwing up.   

    @tiamat63 said:

    Of course you're not, that would require far more than just looking at a handful of numbers for yourself as to how the data arrives there.   Like I said... DOGMA.  This is how sites like PFF use their god to determine that Corey Coleman is the best WR in the 2016 draft.  There is no room for reflection and additional input once a "conclusion" has been reached by their proprietary grading models.   

    This is what scares the crap out of me Tia if we go overboard on analytics. The numbers say this guy is gonna be the greatest. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I just can't wrap my head around hiring a CO-offensive coordinator with one season experience as a head coach, right after the debacle of hiring an OC with little experience who completely bombed out. 

    Maybe that isn't fair, Stefanski is Stefanski and Kitchens is Kitchens, but man, that's a ballsy move if Haslam does it. 

    Nah it's more like if this coach flops, Jimmy  can fire DePodesta for screwing up.   

    @tiamat63 said:

    Of course you're not, that would require far more than just looking at a handful of numbers for yourself as to how the data arrives there.   Like I said... DOGMA.  This is how sites like PFF use their god to determine that Corey Coleman is the best WR in the 2016 draft.  There is no room for reflection and additional input once a "conclusion" has been reached by their proprietary grading models.   

    This is what scares the crap out of me Tia if we go overboard on analytics. The numbers say this guy is gonna be the greatest. 

    @hoorta said:

    Nah it's more like if this coach flops, Jimmy  can fire DePodesta for screwing up.   

    Finally? Do you promise? 

  • We should simply use AI in every single decision that needs to be made. It was good enough for Skynet. 

  • We should simply use AI in every single decision that needs to be made. It was good enough for Skynet. 

    @d-bone said:

    We should simply use AI in every single decision that needs to be made. It was good enough for Skynet. 

    All Inclusive?   As in resorts.....where it is all you can eat and drink all week? 

  • @d-bone said:

    We should simply use AI in every single decision that needs to be made. It was good enough for Skynet. 

    All Inclusive?   As in resorts.....where it is all you can eat and drink all week? 

    @the-gipper said:

    All Inclusive?   As in resorts.....where it is all you can eat and drink all week? 

    Yes, all inclusive.... that's what AI stands for... yes. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    All Inclusive?   As in resorts.....where it is all you can eat and drink all week? 

    Yes, all inclusive.... that's what AI stands for... yes. 

    @d-bone said:

    Yes, all inclusive.... that's what AI stands for... yes. 

    On my travel chat board, there is a lot of talk about AI.

  • We should simply use AI in every single decision that needs to be made. It was good enough for Skynet. 

    @d-bone said:

    We should simply use AI in every single decision that needs to be made.

    Who is Al?

    If you'll be my bodyguard
    I can be your long lost pal
    I can call you Betty
    And Betty, when you call me, you can call me Al
  • @d-bone said:

    We should simply use AI in every single decision that needs to be made.

    Who is Al?

    If you'll be my bodyguard
    I can be your long lost pal
    I can call you Betty
    And Betty, when you call me, you can call me Al

    @tour2ma said:

    Who is Al?

    If you'll be my bodyguard
    I can be your long lost pal
    I can call you Betty
    And Betty, when you call me, you can call me Al

    Thanks, now that stupid song is stuck in there real deep like.  

  • @tour2ma said:

    Who is Al?

    If you'll be my bodyguard
    I can be your long lost pal
    I can call you Betty
    And Betty, when you call me, you can call me Al

    Thanks, now that stupid song is stuck in there real deep like.  

    @d-bone said:

    Thanks, now that stupid song is stuck in there real deep like.  

    I can play the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game using that video:

    I was in a movie with Paul Simon.....One Trick Pony

    Paul Simon was in the Call me Al video with  Chevy Chase

    Chevy Chase was in Caddyshack with Bill Murray

    Bill Murray was in Ghostbusters with  Dan Ackroyd

    Dan Ackroyd was in The Blues Brothers with  John Belushi

    John Belushi was in Animal House with......Kevin Bacon 

    6 moves...gets me there.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Who is Al?

    If you'll be my bodyguard
    I can be your long lost pal
    I can call you Betty
    And Betty, when you call me, you can call me Al

    Thanks, now that stupid song is stuck in there real deep like.  

    @d-bone said:

    Thanks, now that stupid song is stuck in there real deep like.  

    You're welcome, Betty...

  • Just had to come back for a laugh.

    The run heavy team that uses a ton of play action, rollouts, 13 personnel and plays hard nosed down- hill football is up early 17-7 on a KC squad that literally plays the exact opposite brand of ball.

    More importantly, because of what Derrick Henry and the Titans Oline creates, you're watching the Chiefs load 8 and 9 man fronts and selling out to stop the run.   As I type, tackle eligible off of motion and a hard play fake.    EVERYONE thought Henry was getting the ball on 3rd and 1.        

    Right now Parcells football is beating your precious Bill Walsh style. 

  • Just had to come back for a laugh.

    The run heavy team that uses a ton of play action, rollouts, 13 personnel and plays hard nosed down- hill football is up early 17-7 on a KC squad that literally plays the exact opposite brand of ball.

    More importantly, because of what Derrick Henry and the Titans Oline creates, you're watching the Chiefs load 8 and 9 man fronts and selling out to stop the run.   As I type, tackle eligible off of motion and a hard play fake.    EVERYONE thought Henry was getting the ball on 3rd and 1.        

    Right now Parcells football is beating your precious Bill Walsh style. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Just had to come back for a laugh.

    The run heavy team that uses a ton of play action, rollouts, 13 personnel and plays hard nosed down- hill football is up early 17-7 on a KC squad that literally plays the exact opposite brand of ball.

    More importantly, because of what Derrick Henry and the Titans Oline creates, you're watching the Chiefs load 8 and 9 man fronts and selling out to stop the run.   As I type, tackle eligible off of motion and a hard play fake.    EVERYONE thought Henry was getting the ball on 3rd and 1.        

    Right now Parcells football is beating your precious Bill Walsh style. 

    How about now?  Chiefs 35-17